I notice quite a few inconsistencies on King of Queens sometimes. Just a few for example:

1. What ever happened to that dog Stanley that Doug and Carrie took from the Sacksey's? Stanley was in a few later episodes, but then he just disappeared and he was never mentioned again.

2. Doug didn't meet Deacon until he started working at IPS, yet there are a couple of episodes where Carrie mentions that she went to high school with Deacon's wife Kelly. What's up with that?


Can anyone else name a few inconsistencies?

Carrie had a sister in the first season early eps.,than she never was seen or heard about again. And it was made to seem like Carrie was an only child after that!

In the early seasons Doug and Carrie knew each other from school (or maybe Junior High?). Then later we see Doug and Carrie met at the nightclub where Doug was bouncing.

In an early episode Doug has a high school football reunion at this house, including the coach. But in the ep where Burt Reynolds plays his old coach, Burt acts like he hasn't seen Doug since high school.

Carrie had a sister in the first season early eps.,than she never was seen or heard about again. And it was made to seem like Carrie was an only child after that!

Yep, the vanishing-sibling. Funny thing is they then gave Doug a sister in the 3rd season, who we never heard of before, then she's gone after that. Though Doug did mention having the sis in later seasons.

Ohhhh, and Doug's car. Before he got the new SUV, Doug had the brown station wagon that he ends up selling to Spence. It's made to sound like Doug's had the car since high school, yet in flashbacks Doug is driving a little convertible.

I always wondered why they have two types of kitchen chairs at the same table?

https://comm394ri.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/heffernan-kitchen.jpg

I always wondered why they have two types of kitchen chairs at the same table?

https://comm394ri.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/heffernan-kitchen.jpg

I think that's just a style. I've seen real houses with that.

It was a wonderful evening when Carrie and Doug doubled with Doug's new friend Deacon and discovered that Deacon's wife was Carrie's long-lost high school pal, Kelly.
^^^ When did that happen??? :confused:


Another inconsistency: Firefighter pal Richie just vanishes with no mention of him ever again.

^^^ When did that happen??? :confused:


Another inconsistency: Firefighter pal Richie just vanishes with no mention of him ever again.



Yeah and Richie was a hotty!!! I wish they didn't let him go!! :(

Yeah and Richie was a hotty!!! I wish they didn't let him go!! :(

Richie was a fun character. I loved when he called Doug Moose. He went onto another sitcom that didn't last.

I think that's just a style. I've seen real houses with that.


Wow, that is actually pretty cool.;) I never saw that in a real house! I'd go for that, but my hubby would probably object, he would think it's weird. Traditional old goat that he is!!!:lol:

Yeah and Richie was a hotty!!! I wish they didn't let him go!! :(
The writers could have at least written off Richie's character by saying that he moved away or something. Richie was a character that people cared about.... not like Carrie's sister.

Sorry, I never cared for Richie and didn't miss him after he was gone.

The thing I've heard about Carrie's sister is she was on the first two episodes and the writers didn't really know what to do with her so the character was just dropped and Carrie became an only child.

And what about Holly? She was on for a few seasons and then she just disappeared too. Was there ever an explanation given as to what happened to her and maybe I missed it? I thought she was very funny.

Ed.

I hate when there are holes in the plot like that. The writers think we're stupid, I guess.

Another inconsistency that's been well-documented on other websites:

Exterior long shots of the front of the house don't show much of a front porch at all, yet there are some episodes where a full front porch is in use --or at least shown. I think there have also been inconsistencies regarding the lower windows (for Arthur's use, or lack of them).

I always wondered why they have two types of kitchen chairs at the same table?

https://comm394ri.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/heffernan-kitchen.jpg

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^^^^ It's two.

And what about Holly? She was on for a few seasons and then she just disappeared too. Was there ever an explanation given as to what happened to her and maybe I missed it? I thought she was very funny.

Unlike the character of Richie, Holly did have an exit story. She moved to Manhattan to get married. Then she came back for Arthur's wedding at the end of the series. She was pregnant and she was divorced.

^^^^ It's two.

It's 3.

The one with it's back to the garbage can, and the one in the lower front right of the pic are different. Different shapes, and one is green, and one is blue.
Then the 2 matching round back ones.

Spencer is known to be allergic to peanuts, is even teased about it by one of Deacon's sons.

But in the 1st season episode where Doug has to tell Richie his girlfriend is sleeping around. Spencer eats peanut M&M's he finds in Doug's car.

It's 3.

The one with it's back to the garbage can, and the one in the lower front right of the pic are different. Different shapes, and one is green, and one is blue.
Then the 2 matching round back ones.

Actually, looking at the 2 round back chairs, they don't quite match. And seeing them in an episode one looks white, and the other is a very light blue.

EDIT: Okay, they are both white, it was just the light, but they still aren't exactly the same.
I'll shut up now.

https://comm394ri.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/heffernan-kitchen.jpgI'm surprised Carrie would go for such ugly curtains in her kitchen.

First of all Nicole Sullivan plays the store assistant in the baby store, then later she's Holly the dog walker.

I find it hard to believe that Arthur who was later revealed to have had a fairly successful past as a working actor who gave up his career to become a stable father to Carrie would not have heard of such classic, iconic movies such as "Its a Wonderful Life" or "The Wizard of Oz".

Doug and Carrie appear to be dog lovers but treat the dog they adopt in Ruff Goin' terribly.

This may not be an inconsistency but I thought it weird that notoriously lonely loser Arthur wouldn't have welcomed Arlene Golonka as a girlfriend when she she seemed so "into" him. Him trying to get away from her by pretending to be with Deacon after they slept together just rang false for me.

Also, Arthur appears very needy, helpless and childlike and needs the services of a "dog walker" some of the time but is able to get around pretty well all over town on his own when he has to.

His state of neediness depends on the whims of the script.

Spencer is known to be allergic to peanuts, is even teased about it by one of Deacon's sons.

But in the 1st season episode where Doug has to tell Richie his girlfriend is sleeping around. Spencer eats peanut M&M's he finds in Doug's car.

That is a great one.

Oh and BTW, love your latest Baby Torgo avatar. Mr. Depp would be proud.

:wave:

That is a great one.

Oh and BTW, love your latest Baby Torgo avatar. Mr. Depp would be proud.

:wave:

I actually love all of the inconsistencies, it's fun to spot them:)

Thank you! This is her second Depp, the first being a Mr. Scissorhands.:wave:

I actually love all of the inconsistencies, it's fun to spot them:)

Thank you! This is her second Depp, the first being a Mr. Scissorhands.:wave:

I remember that one too.

She is Deppinitely a talented artist. :) Has she done a Jack Sparrow one yet?

Doug and Carrie appear to be dog lovers but treat the dog they adopt in Ruff Goin' terribly.

This may not be an inconsistency but I thought it weird that notoriously lonely loser Arthur wouldn't have welcomed Arlene Golonka as a girlfriend when she she seemed so "into" him. Him trying to get away from her by pretending to be with Deacon after they slept together just rang false for me.

Also, Arthur appears very needy, helpless and childlike and needs the services of a "dog walker" some of the time but is able to get around pretty well all over town on his own when he has to.

His state of neediness depends on the whims of the script.

Yes! They even have a doggy door! And had the dog in the early season, but in the later one they totally changed on how they view dogs.

Haha yeah, he had no problem renting the convertible and getting hookers, shows up for job interviews (yet in other eps he needs rides everywhere)

I remember that one too.

She is Deppinitely a talented artist. :) Has she done a Jack Sparrow one yet?

Not yet.:)

Yes! They even have a doggy door! And had the dog in the early season, but in the later one they totally changed on how they view dogs.

Haha yeah, he had no problem renting the convertible and getting hookers, shows up for job interviews (yet in other eps he needs rides everywhere)

It was like there were two Arthur's or maybe even 3?

Was it believable that he would STILL let his older half brother control him like that?

Also, when they renovated the rec room when he burned it down didn't it go back to the way it was before after that?

In some episodes Doug is mortally afraid of confrontation and in the next he invites it and loves to stir things up.

Carrie was a beeyotch when she felt wronged but I thought as funny as the Janeane Garafolo episode was she seemed kind of evil for want of a better word. So she said "literally" a lot. She seemed like a nice enough person to me. Even sweet Holly seemed way too mean to her behind her back. Weird. :crazy:

I don't think I've ever seen the last few episodes. It sounded too much like the "Mad About You" angst. The other episodes are a mixed bag, but not bad overall.

Well they were not quite as obnoxious as Paul and Jamie and that ridiculous fight over a kiss that wasn't even her idea and wasn't reciprocated by her but close.

I like it when the show goes for drama occasionally but the whole set up with the apartment and Doug's faux outrage didn't work for me.

Also, Spence in love with Carrie? Rang false. She always treated him like the bottom of her shoe.

Forced.

I liked the Ava St. Clair thing though and her thinking Arthur was gay the whole time. That was really funny. :lol:

Well they were not quite as obnoxious as Paul and Jamie and that ridiculous fight over a kiss that wasn't even her idea and wasn't reciprocated by her but close.

I like it when the show goes for drama occasionally but the whole set up with the apartment and Doug's faux outrage didn't work for me.

Also, Spence in love with Carrie? Rang false. She always treated him like the bottom of her shoe.

Forced.

I liked the Ava St. Clair thing though and her thinking Arthur was gay the whole time. That was really funny. :lol:

Spence has always had a weird stalky love for Carrie, even though she off and on hated him. There was one episode she had to tell him to stop peeking in the window and to go home. I think that 'Carried' over from his Sarah obsession.

It was like there were two Arthur's or maybe even 3?

Was it believable that he would STILL let his older half brother control him like that?

Also, when they renovated the rec room when he burned it down didn't it go back to the way it was before after that?

In some episodes Doug is mortally afraid of confrontation and in the next he invites it and loves to stir things up.

Carrie was a beeyotch when she felt wronged but I thought as funny as the Janeane Garafolo episode was she seemed kind of evil for want of a better word. So she said "literally" a lot. She seemed like a nice enough person to me. Even sweet Holly seemed way too mean to her behind her back. Weird. :crazy:

Not sure, maybe some people could get to Arthur like that like the half brother.

The whole basement thing is total inconstancy throughout the series. Watch for the vanishing/reappearing washer and dryer. Or the ep where Arthur finds the window, then it's never seen again. Or in early episodes there's a space where they could have put the bathroom with only having to build one wall, yet when they do build it, it has to be three walls because that space is no longer there.

I felt bad for Janeane's character, that was the only time I didn't like The Heffernan's as people. And yes, Holly as neurotic as she is would have loved to have a friend like her. I guess they were trying to show Janeane's character as so pathetic even Holly wouldn't want to be around her.

Not sure, maybe some people could get to Arthur like that like the half brother.

The whole basement thing is total inconstancy throughout the series. Watch for the vanishing/reappearing washer and dryer. Or the ep where Arthur finds the window, then it's never seen again. Or in early episodes there's a space where they could have put the bathroom with only having to build one wall, yet when they do build it, it has to be three walls because that space is no longer there.

I felt bad for Janeane's character, that was the only time I didn't like The Heffernan's as people. And yes, Holly as neurotic as she is would have loved to have a friend like her. I guess they were trying to show Janeane's character as so pathetic even Holly wouldn't want to be around her.

This isn't an inconsistency but larger than life Doug having nothing but skinny girlfriends in his past is just ridiculous. I mean c'mon! He didn't have ONE woman comparable to his size? Thick season 8 Carrie is the only time he came close. Also, the food affair lady was more size appropriate.

Good points about the evolving basement and Holly would have LOVED to have somebody pay attention to her like that. She seemed out of place in that one.

I guess Stitch traumatized Arthur just like Halloween did. :(

The King of Queens (TV Series)
Paternal Affairs (1998) This is the episode with Brenda Vaccaro as Doug's aunt. Carrie's sister Sara is in it too. Here's the weird thing. Sara asked Spence what his name was. He said STAN. Why?

The King of Queens (TV Series)
Paternal Affairs (1998) This is the episode with Brenda Vaccaro as Doug's aunt. Carrie's sister Sara is in it too. Here's the weird thing. Sara asked Spence what his name was. He said STAN. Why?

It was a call back to earlier in the episode at the party, Doug tells Spence he should talk to Sara, Spence says no, the relationship is fine, and Doug responds "She thinks your name is Stan."

In the episode where Carrie turns 35 and she and Doug ride their mountain bikes, you can see some palm trees here and there along the roadside. Palm trees in Queens? I mean, I get that the show was shot in SoCal, but let's at least try.

Also, for being set in Queens, have you noticed that it is almost constantly summer time with leaves on the deciduous trees, abundant sunshine, and the characters wearing warm weather clothing? Much like with "Little House on the Prairie", which was set in Minnesota to boot, the only time it seems to be winter is when it figures into the plot line, e.g. a Christmas or Thanksgiving episode.

I noticed recently that the guy at the bar next to Carrie on Valentine's Day (Tito?) who she ends up having dinner with bc he gets stood up and Doug gets stuck at Spence's apartment with his mom is the same guy Carrie yells at in a movie theater in a different episode for being loud either before or during a movie.

CBS sitcoms have always been the worst offenders of inconsistent stories, especially the last 25 years. I'm a fan of King of Queens, but the show has A LOT of them.

King of Queens has three inconsistencies with birthdays. In the first season, 1999, Carrie is turning 30. In another 2005 episode 6 years later, she is turning 35. There's a 2001 paintball episode where Deacon is celebrating his 33rd birthday which makes him born in 1968. In a 2006 episode, Doug is turning 40. However, he mentioned that he was born on February 9, 1965 in an earlier episode. He would have turned 41 that year, not 40. In the same episode, Deacon mentions he is a year younger than Doug and will be turning 40 next year. That would have made Deacon born in 1967, not 1968 as earlier shown.

The basement is remodeled after Arthur moves out in season 8 but when Arthur moves back in, it is back to the unremodeled version.

The Satskies move out quickly during the water filter episode but appear later as if nothing happened.

Carries wedding dress changes from a flashback scene and another episode in present day.

Maybe not an inconsistency but Doug thinks he has a 20 something aged dog, Rocky, he is never seen shown in any episodes of visiting his parents except that one. Also in the same episode Doug learns he was born in Canada, is it supposed to be believed he never saw his birth certificate?

Arthur constantly complains about living in a "windowless basement" until he later rips apart the paneling and discovers the window that he never knew about. Now, Doug, Carrie and Arthur are all idiots not to know that there is a basement window that could be seen from the outside.

Deacon has a lot of Cincinnati gear at his house - is he from there?

Deacon has a lot of Cincinnati gear at his house - is he from there?

do you have any links or photos? Seem to remember this as well but would like to research further. :cool:

Waiting for KilltheKingofHearts to post next.

Doug enjoys drinking Scotch with Arthur in the show where they want to put him in a retirement home but later in the series when new neighbors visit and bring him Scotch, he pours it down the sink because "he isn't a Scotch guy".

The best of sitcoms have these- The Golden Girls a prime example.

Even though Carrie's sister was written out, they would have mentioned that she just moved away and such, and didn't have to imply Carrie was an only child in later seasons.

Didn't even think about Richie not being written out officially. Didn't mind him, but he wasn't a favorite of mine. He was seen in the clips compilation in that few minutes that aired at the end of the finale.

I mentioned this elsewhere, but, speaking of inconsistencies:

When Carrie cut her hair and got that awful haircut, was the audience to believe that her hair magically grew back, or that she was wearing a wig for some time thereafter?