I remember the Susan Harrison case in which her husband Jim was accused of being involved in her disappearance. Some time later, her body was found and she had been murdered.
I have read the book her sister wrote about the case and I am convinced that Jim knew more than he was telling.
Then the officer Ed Carter who was later arrested for the murder of the women in Oak Grove (along with two other men). One of the officers interviewed admitted Carter failed his polygraph.
What people come to your mind?

Jim Harrison is a good pick. I'd also say people like Mark Nichols and Judy Groezigner immediately come to mind when I think of someone who I thought were just outright lying.

Tim McClure.

Melody's Friend Who Drove the Getaway Car Up to the Prison Wall:

I'm just gonna past my old post and let you all see for yourself why I believe she was outright lying (despite others believing her):



"Here's whom the producers (and maybe law enforcement) expected us to believe that I did NOT believe- Melody's friend who drove the get away car! I can't think of her last name but remember Melody from Texas whose boyfriend was in prison who kept making collect calls to her house (that she supposedly was unable to stop?) and who got her to 'persuade' a friend to drive up to the prison wall? Well, according to the friend, Melody persuaded her to drive her car up to the prison wall and wait there for the boyfriend (Chad?) even though there was really no legitimate reason for the friend to drive a car up to the prison wall nor wait around for someone to jump over a fence! Anyway, according to the friend, Chad immediately shoved her out of the car and drove away with Melody and Melody supposedly had a 'helpless' look to her. First off, why would someone not wanting to help someone escape prison drive up to a prison wall and wait for them to jump off the wall? That makes absolutely no sense! Secondly, even she somehow was tricked into driving her car to that spot , why wouldn't she immediately lock their car doors,drive away, honk the horn and try to alert the guards to the escaped prisoner if she in fact had no interest in helping a prisoner escape? Third, considering how this person did a great deal TO help Melody and her boyfriend with the escape, why would anyone think she has any credibility re Melody's role- much less her own instead of trying to shift the blame entirely to a known prisoner even though she wound up dumped out of her own car? Sorry, of all the witnesses on Melody's behalf, she came across to me as the least credible even less so than Melody's seemingly ostrich headed dad! "



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Kevin and Bean from the radio station.

Grandma of the century: Ida Prewitt

When she said she had nothing to do with the ladies disappearence. I suppose telling her brother to sprinkle pepper on her property was to keep the raccoons away, right?

Al Henderson. I know people here are somewhat split on his guilt or innocence, but this was one of the rare cases when UM flat-out called out a guy for lying because the story he gave in his interview didn't match the story he gave the cops or the casino surveillance footage.

I love Robert Stack's line:"From this point on, Al and the surveillance footage seem to disagree".

Again, the Noe-Prewitt family. How a bunch of rednecks managed to run a crime syndicate and get away with murder for so long...:mad: I heard the police in that area were pretty corrupt, but on that level?! Seriously the Gotham City Police Department is impressed by their level of corruption.

Franklin Delano Floyd. Even before I read "A Beautiful Child" child!me and probably everyone who watched that segment, knew he was a sorry sack of **** for whom Hell feels too mild a punishment for him. :mad:

Bob Hall

I know this is mostly about suspects lying but I felt like the police officer who spoke about Tommy Burkett seemed like he was lying to me. He was definitely trying to tell a story that supported what the police theory was and totally ignored all the other facts.

I know this is mostly about suspects lying but I felt like the police officer who spoke about Tommy Burkett seemed like he was lying to me. He was definitely trying to tell a story that supported what the police theory was and totally ignored all the other facts.
there were quite a few police in segments that were lying or not being realists. someone mentioned ed carter that may have been hands down the worst. can't see what took so long to arrest him. was it the bonderson case where the two police officers argued. the sherriff was wrong and got proven wrong by the state trooper yet he opted to go on UM staying with his theory. some my see that as pride, but as a police officer he should have gone with the facts as they both argued LOL.

what about the steve sandlin case? I felt the police chief was lying out of his teeth in that segment.

what about the cases where 3 people are point the finger at each other for a murder then it gets solved an none were involved...was that the bob bean case? and then eric tamyasu is much like it though it is unsolved.

Ida Pruitt obviously. Gripping and bitching my ass lol.

Jule "Saladmaker" freaking Caylor

Yeah, Ida and the Noes story never added up and just didn't make a lick of sense to me even as a 13 year old kid when I first watched the story. You just don't drop off a disabled person and their friend at some random Walmart and then they fall off the face of the earth. I'm glad they're probably going to throw the book at the Noes for what they did to Wendy, her daughter, and her friend. Beverly's already started serving her 15 year sentence.

Al Henderson. I know people here are somewhat split on his guilt or innocence, but this was one of the rare cases when UM flat-out called out a guy for lying because the story he gave in his interview didn't match the story he gave the cops or the casino surveillance footage.

I love Robert Stack's line:"From this point on, Al and the surveillance footage seem to disagree".

YES!!! This guy has to be in my top 3 biggest liars. I found his explanations for things to be too long, convoluted and nonsensical.

I know this is mostly about suspects lying but I felt like the police officer who spoke about Tommy Burkett seemed like he was lying to me. He was definitely trying to tell a story that supported what the police theory was and totally ignored all the other facts.

That guy gets my vote for least convincing liar on UM. I mean, most liars on UM at least try to come up with a half-way convincing story to sell to the public, that guy came off as not even trying that much.

what about the cases where 3 people are point the finger at each other for a murder then it gets solved an none were involved...was that the bob bean case?

Bob Bean was one of the "suspects" in that case, along with Pat Snead and Danny Wheeler. The victim was Sammy Wheeler.

I don't know that I'd call any of them liars, they were more like "trash talkers" I guess you could say.

Well, maybe that doesn't apply to Bob Bean. He is my role model after all.

Sorry to take 4 consecutive posts here, but I just came up with some:

-Doyle Lovelady. I feel sorry for him, I really, really do. But he just gave off the vibe of somebody who was lying about his "certainty" in order to make someone pay for the crime.

-Gale Delano lied quite a bit.

-Tony. I didn't believe his whole act and I feel he absolutely knows what happened to Adam Hecht.

Chad Noe! OMG, acting classes were seriously needed! Evil biatch Ida didn't do TOO bad, but even if anyone believed her, by the time Chad was on camera, BUSTED!

I also think Lisa Penz was lying about Bonnie Wilder. All this crap about everyone applicant being on drugs, etc, and that Bonnie was "the best they had to work with"...puleeze, Lisa didn't even call references or she would have known Bonnie was a fake-ass person! Such a liar, trying to make herself look good.

I also think Lisa Penz was lying about Bonnie Wilder. All this crap about everyone applicant being on drugs, etc, and that Bonnie was "the best they had to work with"...puleeze, Lisa didn't even call references or she would have known Bonnie was a fake-ass person! Such a liar, trying to make herself look good.

I felt the same way!! I doubt there were people who were on drugs applying. Lisa just feels stupid for hiring someone who fooled her

Ed Walters. Lied, and then lied that he was lying.

Darin Routier. That he is a liar is the reason I can't completely dismiss him from being involved somehow.

Scott Hill and Alex Cooper. Scumbags that lied and kicked their families to the curb. They were so lucky their families took them back because they didn't deserve it.

Bob Bean was one of the "suspects" in that case, along with Pat Snead and Danny Wheeler. The victim was Sammy Wheeler.

I don't know that I'd call any of them liars, they were more like "trash talkers" I guess you could say.

Well, maybe that doesn't apply to Bob Bean. He is my role model after all.
good point, I think I just find it strange that people are so adamant that they know what happened and then the truth comes out and they are wrong. you cant always say they lied, but I do wonder what they were thinking sometimes. and this goes for many cases especiallyalleged eye witness accounts

Larry Race - TracyLynnS had an excellent analysis of the case on a couple of the threads.

Steve Page

Paul Pollis and his mother. Besides the highly unusual behavior engaged in after a wife and daughter in law inexplicably disappears, Paul's statement in his letter, "I love my wife and would never do anything to harm her intentionally." Then there is the mother's comment, "Oh I think that's positively ludicrous! To think that anyone would think that of us. We have lived in this area for forty years....we're not that type of people. I can't imagine why they'd think that." Neither of these comments are reliable denials of knowledge about Charlotte's disappearance.

Steve Page is another good contender.

There are a few who had me fooled or on the fence, like Paul Pollis and Stephen Marfeo.

Larry Gibson was a crappy liar, but I initially suspected that his son had been accidentally killed, not murdered.


There are a few who had me fooled or on the fence, like Paul Pollis and Stephen Marfeo.

Based only on his segment, I think Stuart Heaton came across as one of the more convincing liars on UM. If it wasn't for the DNA evidence, there's a good chance he could have drummed up enough reasonable doubt against the pairing wounds and the eyewitness statements.

Oh crap.

How are we forgetting Mark Nichols in this discussion? Meh. He sucks. And a complete liar. Who the hell can list every item their wife took with them when they "left" unless they were the one packing the suitcase?

Oh crap.

How are we forgetting Mark Nichols in this discussion? Meh. He sucks. And a complete liar. Who the hell can list every item their wife took with them when they "left" unless they were the one packing the suitcase?
Don't know how I missed it. I'm not a violent person.

Steve Page.

Ida Prewitt.

Donovan Jacobs (not necessarily saying he was involved, but the whole "when you know Doyle it's not surprising he would make this kind of thing up")

The KROQ DJs. Still on the air here in L.A. and I still refuse to listen to them. Unfortunately, Kevin and Bean remain very popular. Maybe if they had apologized more profusely, I wouldn't be so mad.

I also think Lisa Penz was lying about Bonnie Wilder. All this crap about everyone applicant being on drugs, etc, and that Bonnie was "the best they had to work with"...puleeze, Lisa didn't even call references or she would have known Bonnie was a fake-ass person! Such a liar, trying to make herself look good.
Hahahaha! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yes, her drug speech was a clear exaggeration.

Charlotte Pollis' mother. 'My granddaughter is terrified of a dark trash bag." Un-kay.

Count me in the minority who actually thought (when viewing the segment, prior to what we know now) Ida Prewitt was actually telling the truth.

Wasn't it later revealed that Lisa was actually fired, therefore played the disgruntled office "coworker" when she was interviewed on UM?

Charlotte Pollis' mother. 'My granddaughter is terrified of a dark trash bag." Un-kay.

LMAO! I know, right? What kid is afraid of a garbage bag? But not just any garbage bag, the dark ones!!!! What out for those dark-ass garbage bags, cuz they're the worst! :lol:

Oh, I think Jule Caylor was telling the truth about everything except killing his wife...he clearly didn't like her and really didn't make any effort to hide it.

Another big fat liar is Judy Groezinger.

Ida "Gripin' n bitchin" Pruitt is the first thing that comes to mind.

LMAO! I know, right? What kid is afraid of a garbage bag? But not just any garbage bag, the dark ones!!!! What out for those dark-ass garbage bags, cuz they're the worst! :lol:


I always felt sorry for the child...we buried my father last week and my son is scared of or rather uneasy around flowers. He thinks of his paw paw's funeral...so I am iffy on that...maybe I am emotional though lol but kids fear things differently. IF the child saw something with his mother and trash bags..(I forget the case mostly) it could mess with them.

LMAO! I know, right? What kid is afraid of a garbage bag? But not just any garbage bag, the dark ones!!!! What out for those dark-ass garbage bags, cuz they're the worst! :lol:

Don't forget Paul Polis's mother.
"OH THATS POSITIVELY LUDICRIOUS! TO THINK THAT ANYONE WOULD THINK THAT. WE'VE LIVED IN THIS AREA FOR 40 YEARS. WE'RE NOT THAT TYPE OF PEOPLE. I CAN'T IMAGINE WHY THEY WOULD THINK THAT?...."

Um...maybe because your son is guilty as all heck?

I thought the Cowboys in the entity segment were fullsh especially the first guy.

I thought the Cowboys in the entity segment were fullsh especially the first guy.

I'm not sure if it was a typo or not, but fullsh is going to be my new go to fake vulgarity.

I'm not sure if it was a typo or not, but fullsh is going to be my new go to fake vulgarity.
It was not a typo. Glad you caught that!

Franklin Delano Floyd: "If you knew the real truth about why I took her in, you'd pin a medal on me".

Well, now we finally do know the real truth about what happened and it only makes me want to pin a medal on Floyd's eyeball.

Okay, everyone's mentioned the obvious Prewitt/Noe family and Franklin Delano Floyd, but no one brings up Donny Hanson, who claims that some strangers just happened to break into his house, use his shotgun to shoot and kill his sisters and use the gasoline he purchased in order to burn the house down? And apparently said strangers didn't give him so much as a bruise?!

Like I said, I really wonder who he had as legal counsel because OJ has a better shot at being innocent than Donny.

Okay, everyone's mentioned the obvious Prewitt/Noe family and Franklin Delano Floyd, but no one brings up Donny Hanson, who claims that some strangers just happened to break into his house, use his shotgun to shoot and kill his sisters and use the gasoline he purchased in order to burn the house down? And apparently said strangers didn't give him so much as a bruise?!

Like I said, I really wonder who he had as legal counsel because OJ has a better shot at being innocent than Donny.

And let's not forget Donny getting caught returning to the crime scene at 4 AM and claiming he was there to feed the family dog :rolleyes: .

I feel that Donnie was involved in some way, but I think there may also be some truth behind the strangers theory also, especially since the neighbors did see two unidentified people by the house that night.

Franklin Delano Floyd: "If you knew the real truth about why I took her in, you'd pin a medal on me".

Well, now we finally do know the real truth about what happened and it only makes me want to pin a medal on Floyd's eyeball.
Good one!

I can't really watch that segment after reading A Beautiful Child, but if I do again, I'll just imagine the medal being pinned there. :lol: :mad:

Franklin Delano Floyd: "If you knew the real truth about why I took her in, you'd pin a medal on me".

Well, now we finally do know the real truth about what happened and it only makes me want to pin a medal on Floyd's eyeball.

+1.

...and the imagery of that is just awesome. Thanks for that. :)

Chad Noe! OMG, acting classes were seriously needed! Evil biatch Ida didn't do TOO bad, but even if anyone believed her, by the time Chad was on camera, BUSTED!
That was a first liar to come to mind.

Sam Patel.

Another spouse who's a bad liar: Leonard Rizzo and the "mystery" of how his wife's remains ended up in his backyard.

The Eric and Pam Ellender segment had a couple of apparent liars:
- Chip Richard, who claimed that he watched a video of the Ellenders murder and alleged that Prudhomme was taking the rap for the suppose "Skaters" satanic cult (It seems that Richard was murdered earlier this year near Sulphur, LA).
-Nickie Alderson, who said that she attended a drug party at the crime scene, even though police found no evidence of a party.
- It's possible that Kim Manuel had some contact with the murderers, but so many people tried to manipulate the Littleton family that there's no way to get to the truth at this point.

Sam Patel.
I can't believe I forgot about this one.

"I would be GLAD to give them the shirt."
Police: Yeah, he still won't give it to us.

He is one of the luckiest SOBs on UM. If that DNA test had been conclusive, he'd be in jail right now, imo.

"I would be GLAD to give them the shirt."
Police: Yeah, he still won't give it to us.

That scene is probably one of my all-time favorite edits on UM.

Richard Salazar, the man who was with Sandra Orellana at the time she "fell" off the balcony, is also a big liar in my opinion.

I am convinced he raped and murdered Sandra, but there's not enough evidence to convict him. Who the hell has sex with someone who falls off the balcony during the act and then DOES NOTHING to render aid? But then calls her room the next morning, asking where she was?

Ridiculous. I hate that they couldn't get enough to pin the murder on him.

That scene is probably one of my all-time favorite edits on UM.

As far as terrible liars with great UM edits, I would also like to nominate Eugene Richmond from the Steven Cox segment...

Eugene Richmond: I'm confident that I told every investor that their money is at risk. I would sit in my chair, look them straight in the face and tell them "You're gonna lose your money".

CUT TO:

Elderly Lady: Eugene Richmond is a LIAR!

The Wackers.

I can't believe I forgot about this one.

"I would be GLAD to give them the shirt."
Police: Yeah, he still won't give it to us.

He is one of the luckiest SOBs on UM. If that DNA test had been conclusive, he'd be in jail right now, imo.

Exactly. They should have just charged Patel. Considering that was Texas, they would have found him guilty in short order and he'd be spending his 20th year in prison right now, with many more to go.

It's probably already been mentioned, but that case with the housewife that was extremely shy and anxious being in public and around people. And the husband interviewed on the segment looked like his wife's disapperance was just her being a pain in the ***

That would be the Dottie Caylor, wife of Jules Caylor. Have the same reaction to him that I do to the Prewitt/Noe clan: if someone close to me disappeared and I was the leading suspect, I would put forth a little effort to act concerned about their welfare. I mean, geez, really, guys?!

That would be the Dottie Caylor, wife of Jules Caylor. Have the same reaction to him that I do to the Prewitt/Noe clan: if someone close to me disappeared and I was the leading suspect, I would put forth a little effort to act concerned about their welfare. I mean, geez, really, guys?!

Well with Jule, they were getting a divorce, so I think he just didn't care anymore. I don't think he cared what happened to her regardless if she won the lottery or fell off a cliff.

That lady who claimed she saw Kari Lynn Nixon in SC. Either that or the girl with her who supposedly had a "memory lapse"

https://youtu.be/qQdrjN9DcBc?t=766

Ida Prewitt (long before we ever got the update)

Paul Ferrell might seem genuine to some, but I find it hard to believe any innocent person would do any of the things he did (not reporting Cathy Ford's car being found on his property/writing a letter to make it look like she was still alive).

Donnie Hansen's story makes no sense.

The woman who said Glenn Consagra wasn't on the island and she witnessed the double homicide he was imprisoned for (obviously was not interviewed personally on the show).

Another "obviously not interviewed" but it's sad that Robert Weeks got away with his "oh, she never showed up for the dinner date when she was about to break up with me" ploy at least three times. Thankfully, he was at least convicted for some of his crimes eventually.

Leonard Rizzo was so obviously lying it was almost painful to watch.

That lady who claimed she saw Kari Lynn Nixon in SC. Either that or the girl with her who supposedly had a "memory lapse"

This was brought up recently in the Kari Lynn Nixon thread. For years, many believed Shirley Kannaple was lying. But a poster in the other thread mentioned that the two girls who talked to Shirley had most likely seen Kari's missing poster, thought one of them looked like her and decided to play a prank on an old lady. Although, once police and investigators tracked that girl down, she panicked and claimed a "memory lapse," in order to avoid getting in trouble.

To me, that makes much more sense than Shirley outright lying about the whole thing for the heck of it. She probably genuinely thought she had talked to the real Kari.

Did I miss it or has no one said Elizabeth “that man has Jonathan” Ortiz?

The very first person that comes to my mind is Chip Richard from the Pam and Eric Ellender segment, whom solientgreen mentioned earlier. I thought his short interview was one of the most obvious instances of probable lying on the show.

Paul Pollis is a contender for the top in my book.

Did I miss it or has no one said Elizabeth “that man has Jonathan” Ortiz?

After I saw this, I went back and looked. You didn't miss it! I can't believe no one mentioned Elizabeth Ortiz sooner!

....although I always seem to lump that one into the "worst acting on UM" category.

It's so sad to hear how that story panned out. Gilbert clearly loved his child so much and Elizabeth just poisoned that relationship after she straight up tried to murder Gilbert.