Perhaps its just coincidence, but a lot of the UM segments I've watched lately have featured a lot of really racist people. So I thought we should put together a list of idiotic racist people on UM.

Pretty much all of Oscar Norton's relatives ~ Black lady calls white woman Bonnie Potter to tell her that they're sisters and wants to meet, and Bonnie gets all "Am I speaking with a black woman?" Jeez. Talk about throwing the subtlety card right out the window. Puzzled, she replies "Why yes you are", to which Bonnie retorts "Do you know you're speaking with a white woman?" I have no words. Bonnie spends the rest of the conversation basically telling her she's a loony because there was no way they could be related (except they were, and really how stupid is Bonnie for not knowing "Nellie" is a nickname of Elanor?) Bonnie gets even stupider for not bothering to take a name or a phone number, but then immediately calls her other sister afterward, probably to say "Hey, I just heard from some crazy black lady that says we're related. Oh, we are?!".

But that's just the tip of the iceberg. It's revealed that the entire rest of the family knew about it for 8 years, but it was kept secret at the behest of a racist male relative who thought he was still living in the 1950's. And then there's his conversation with Oscar, which took place in a bar with other people all around.

Oscar: "She was black."
relative: "What?!"
Oscar: "We had a baby together."
relative: "I think I'm going to need another drink."

And the segment ends with Bonnie's white sister basically admitting "We all used to be a bunch of racists, but we've gotten over that now." Well thanks for marching bravely in to modern times lady!

Pretty much all of the white people in the Black Hope Curse segment ~ Watch as a bunch of crazies accuse *deceased* black slaves of everything from theft and harassment all the way to MURDER!!

Because some old woman decided that she was going to disrupt somebody's eternal sleep and peace by digging up their grave, then finally realized all that physical activity wasn't good for someone her age, so her granddaughter takes over, who is no shape either, and she succumbs after a period of intense digging, then it gets blamed on the GHOST!!!

And the part about them hearing murmured voices when they flushed the toilet was so stupid I almost laughed if the whole rest of the segment hadn't been so sad.

Pretty much all of the people in the country and western bar in the Don Smith segment ~ Try not to stare at the only black person in the bar. Jesus. A black guy can be country and western. Haven't they ever heard of Charley Pride?

Pretty much all of the white people in the Andre Jones segment ~ Racists who are put into positions of power is a scary thing.

Malaika Griffin ~ Evil, crazy-ass stupid bitch. I'm willing to bet that stupid smile she flashes in her picture is now a frown.

I saw that Oscar Norton segment for the first time in a long time, possibly ever? I thought it was odd.

My first thought though when I saw this thread title was the old guy in the Dennis Walker segment who said he didn't want the state getting their "cotton picking" hands on Walker's stuff. I remember this statement was brought up in the past, perhaps by kadrmas, and there was a lot of debate about whether the statement was racist or not.

Joseph M.L. Gardener ~ this was a quicky FBI alert or something. It wasn't mentioned in the segment, but it was his "New Year's Resolution" to kill a white woman, which he did. I just read some of the details of what he did to his victim, Missy McLauchlin, and they are so horrifying I don't feel comfortable repeating them here. Thankfully, he was given the death penalty and executed in 2008.

The lunatic who ran those four kids off the road-just because they were black.

[B]Bonnie gets even stupider for not bothering to take a name or a phone number, but then immediately calls her other sister afterward, probably to say "Hey, I just heard from some crazy black lady that says we're related. Oh, we are?!".

Somehow I doubt that was her choice of descriptive word during this conversation.

This isn't racist per say but evetytime they play that music in the Chaim Weiss segment....who thought it was a good idea?

Ugh Malaika Griffin. Thank god she didn't shoot the wife as well.

I've never seen the Oscar Norton case.. What was it about???

The lunatic who ran those four kids off the road-just because they were black.

Good one!

Totally forgot about that segment.

The eyewitness in the Andy Cook killings. Cook looked nothing like a "light skinned black male". He had a dirty blonde mullet & blue eyes. How he saw a black guy was beyond me. Seemed a tad racist imo.

The eyewitness in the Andy Cook killings. Cook looked nothing like a "light skinned black male". He had a dirty blonde mullet & blue eyes. How he saw a black guy was beyond me. Seemed a tad racist imo.

Possibly-but eye witness testimony is incredibly unreliable. I don't remember the case off the top of my head but the person may have seen a black person just before or at the time & confused the two later on. If you have 20 eyewitness reports to a crime you can easily get between 10-20 different stories/descriptions.

Possibly-but eye witness testimony is incredibly unreliable. I don't remember the case off the top of my head but the person may have seen a black person just before or at the time & confused the two later on. If you have 20 eyewitness reports to a crime you can easily get between 10-20 different stories/descriptions.

They might of been driving similar looking cars with the same color on the same road. This witness may of lied that he saw an African American man driving the car when it was really the killer.

Possibly-but eye witness testimony is incredibly unreliable. I don't remember the case off the top of my head but the person may have seen a black person just before or at the time & confused the two later on. If you have 20 eyewitness reports to a crime you can easily get between 10-20 different stories/descriptions.

True, but the eyewitness stated that the driver of the Honda CRX looked right at him & gave him a dirty look or something to that effect. Just happy the case was solved & Cook paid for his crimes.

I saw that Oscar Norton segment for the first time in a long time, possibly ever? I thought it was odd.

My first thought though when I saw this thread title was the old guy in the Dennis Walker segment who said he didn't want the state getting their "cotton picking" hands on Walker's stuff. I remember this statement was brought up in the past, perhaps by kadrmas, and there was a lot of debate about whether the statement was racist or not.

Oh yes, I remember that. I was the one who first brought it up as it's absolutely a racist thing to say, which kadrmas of course disagreed with.

That old guy also condoned Walker stealing all that cool memorabilia, so he struck me as something of a jerk-ass.

Perhaps its just coincidence, but a lot of the UM segments I've watched lately have featured a lot of really racist people. So I thought we should put together a list of idiotic racist people on UM.

Pretty much all of Oscar Norton's relatives ~ Black lady calls white woman Bonnie Potter to tell her that they're sisters and wants to meet, and Bonnie gets all "Am I speaking with a black woman?" Jeez. Talk about throwing the subtlety card right out the window. Puzzled, she replies "Why yes you are", to which Bonnie retorts "Do you know you're speaking with a white woman?" I have no words. Bonnie spends the rest of the conversation basically telling her she's a loony because there was no way they could be related (except they were, and really how stupid is Bonnie for not knowing "Nellie" is a nickname of Elanor?) Bonnie gets even stupider for not bothering to take a name or a phone number, but then immediately calls her other sister afterward, probably to say "Hey, I just heard from some crazy black lady that says we're related. Oh, we are?!".

But that's just the tip of the iceberg. It's revealed that the entire rest of the family knew about it for 8 years, but it was kept secret at the behest of a racist male relative who thought he was still living in the 1950's. And then there's his conversation with Oscar, which took place in a bar with other people all around.

Oscar: "She was black."
relative: "What?!"
Oscar: "We had a baby together."
relative: "I think I'm going to need another drink."

And the segment ends with Bonnie's white sister basically admitting "We all used to be a bunch of racists, but we've gotten over that now." Well thanks for marching bravely in to modern times lady!

Pretty much all of the white people in the Black Hope Curse segment ~ Watch as a bunch of crazies accuse *deceased* black slaves of everything from theft and harassment all the way to MURDER!!

Because some old woman decided that she was going to disrupt somebody's eternal sleep and peace by digging up their grave, then finally realized all that physical activity wasn't good for someone her age, so her granddaughter takes over, who is no shape either, and she succumbs after a period of intense digging, then it gets blamed on the GHOST!!!

And the part about them hearing murmured voices when they flushed the toilet was so stupid I almost laughed if the whole rest of the segment hadn't been so sad.

Pretty much all of the people in the country and western bar in the Don Smith segment ~ Try not to stare at the only black person in the bar. Jesus. A black guy can be country and western. Haven't they ever heard of Charley Pride?

Pretty much all of the white people in the Andre Jones segment ~ Racists who are put into positions of power is a scary thing.

Malaika Griffin ~ Evil, crazy-ass stupid bitch. I'm willing to bet that stupid smile she flashes in her picture is now a frown.
In the Black Hope Curse segment they in multiple occasions say they wanted to give the former slaves a proper grave. And that they were horrified when they found out they were living on top of a former slave cemetery. Whether you believe the garbage they are spewing is one thing. And as much as I love Unsolved Mysteries. Sometimes they aren't the best fact checkers. Regardless of that. If these people did go through a traumatic experience. Regardless of the nature of it. Its rather stupid to call them racist. I saw nothing that would give that impression.

Adam Hecht's mother.

Adam Hecht's mother.

You could tell she was a "classist" too. someone who looks down on people not of the same high class standing.

:lol: Adam Hecht's mom? WOW! LMMFAO

"Classist" turns into "racist" very easily apparently

:lol: Adam Hecht's mom? WOW! LMMFAO

Guaranteed to split the forum.

In the Black Hope Curse segment they in multiple occasions say they wanted to give the former slaves a proper grave. And that they were horrified when they found out they were living on top of a former slave cemetery. Whether you believe the garbage they are spewing is one thing. And as much as I love Unsolved Mysteries. Sometimes they aren't the best fact checkers. Regardless of that. If these people did go through a traumatic experience. Regardless of the nature of it. Its rather stupid to call them racist. I saw nothing that would give that impression.

That's quite an impressive debut there. So you admit they were spewing garbage, but believe them when they blamed their missing shoes on dead black people? Last time I checked, deceased persons couldn't lift things.

Adam Hecht's mother.

Nope, sure wasn't.

You could tell she was a "classist" too. someone who looks down on people not of the same high class standing.

I don't think that I would go so far as to call Adam Hecht's mother (or brother, or sister for that matter) racist, but I do agree with you that they were a very snobbish family. Definitely the type to look down upon people that come from the poor side of town.

I don't think that I would go so far as to call Adam Hecht's mother (or brother, or sister for that matter) racist, but I do agree with you that they were a very snobbish family. Definitely the type to look down upon people that come from the poor side of town.

Which was inherently black no doubt. Being poor was a crime, being black probably just made them even lower to many of the upper classes.

Beware of nuts: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1071634/

I never once got the impression that they were racist on the Black Hope Curse segment. . Since they were living on top of that cemetery and they were convinced they had paranormal experiences they were just assuming it was because they had destroyed their resting place. I dont think they were "blaming" their experience on the fact that they were black and not white. If it had been a cemetery that contained poor white people, I'm sure they would be assuming the exact same thing. They were making an inference. You can call them naive for their belief but not racist IMO.

I never thought the black hope curse to be racist either. I think the
Common thought of disturbing anyone's grave would bother people... generally.

I don't think that I would go so far as to call Adam Hecht's mother (or brother, or sister for that matter) racist.
Agreed. Tony was creepy, taking advantage of Adam, and even caused him injury during bizarre rituals. He also seemed to have serious mental illness. I would certainly not be happy to see my son in this situation regardless of which race the guy was, and I don't think that was an issue for the Hechts.

Oscar Norton's family was mentioned above. My main issue is with the man Oscar confessed the whole situation to. If he hadn't kept silent for 8+ years, then the sister would have been found. While I do find the daughter asking her if she was black weird, she DID clarify "or someone from the south." I'm assuming she was going off of her accent and wanted to emphasize "hey, I'm a northern woman so do you think you may have the wrong person." Asking her race did seem totally unnecessary and rude, but I guess I can see the southern part. Also, how do you miss that Nellie is a nickname for Eleanor? :lol: But yeah, the family member Oscar confessed to was the worst one. He goes "What?" when Oscar confessed about the baby, but when he finds out she was black he needs another drink.:rolleyes:

One of the most racist parts of the Black Hope curse segment was the part where they decided the black ghosts were too much bother and they were going to dig up their graves and kick 'em all of the plantation!

And the part where the two ghosts merged into one was so stupid it was cringeworthy. And why couldn't the rich people living in an exclusive neighborhood afford to move? Another lie on their part.

Never saw the Black Hope Curse as being racist either-just stupid superstitious nonsense & overactive imaginations resulting from that. Probably the best directed segment they ever did though.

They could've went through a traumatic experience that they mistook as something paranormal. They're elderly. And possibly Religious. I'm a religious person and I've seen older elderly people who believe in "demons". Which is utter nonsense. Just like if you were to watch that segment and conclude that in some way its a racist segment. Such as you apparently did. Its totally outlandish. Yet, You apparently believe it. Its your right. And watch out! They're could be an elderly couple down the road from you that may believe there is a "Black Ghost" haunting them. If they think its Black. Make sure you label them racists. lmao

If they were to move out. Im sure you'd say its because the "Ghosts were black". And if you watch the entire segment. They did move out. Wow!

FYI Everyone is entitled to an opinion. @Wiseguy I'm being completely facetious. No disrespect intended sir. I can come across a little brash with my opinions.

One of the most racist parts of the Black Hope curse segment was the part where they decided the black ghosts were too much bother and they were going to dig up their graves and kick 'em all of the plantation!

And the part where the two ghosts merged into one was so stupid it was cringeworthy. And why couldn't the rich people living in an exclusive neighborhood afford to move? Another lie on their part.


I thought they had to dig them up because in order to prove they were living on a cemetery, they had to produce a body. I dont think they wanted to do it but in order to prove they were sold a property by the developer without being told about the graves legally they had to prove it.

We dont know how rich they were. Upper middle class isn't rich if you loose all the value in your home and cant sell it without losing all the money you have in it. The problem was because of all the publicity they could never sell their home or even if they could they would lose most of their money as the value plummets. Most realtors/sellers/developers are required to tell you if there was a murder/death in a house (within 7 or 10 years if im not mistaken) or if you're living within so many yards of any grave site (at least in NY state). My dad lives in a similar development in New England and in 2006 an 18 year old shot and murdered his grandmother in an apparent dispute over money. The house was unsellable for years and when it did finally sell was sold for 1/4th the price the house would've normally sold for.

So whether someone believes in ghosts or not, the very thought of living around death is very creepy and disturbing to many people. So that in turn diminishes the value of the home. They had every right to sue the developer because even if I didn't see a ghost, Id be pissed. It should've been disclosed. They won their court case and a jury agreed with them but a judge later overturned it (which who knows how $$ talks). Anyways, these home owners were broke from not being able to sell their home and then were further financially devastated by lawyer and legal costs when the verdict was tossed out. These weren't people living in Malibu in 10 million dollar homes with a 50 million dollar net worth. If a home there cost 350,000 and they made a lower 6 figure salary an unsellable home combined with a huge legal battle could easily financially devastate anyone in that economic bracket.

Wouldn't there have been maps & deeds showing this? Don't all councils/boroughs have this kind of stuff in their archives & the planning department deals with it all? Seems a bit much you have to dig up your property with shovels to prove it.

Never quite got the nobody can live in a house where something bad happened-there was one near to where I live some years back that ended up being demolished because some guy had buried a couple of girls bodies there, so many people struggling to get a home & we knock homes down for no logical reason.

The killers of O'Neal Moore.

Apparently the cemetery wasn't documented as it was used by former slaves and in a way was a makeshift cemetery as unfortunately most of them couldn't afford to bury their relatives in the 1800s and early 1900s. I believe I read that the developer stumbled across it but purposely never told any of the buyers. That's wrong. Well, its the persons choice to live in a home like that. As long as they are informed I have no problem but anyone purposely keeping it from a buyer isn't right. Also, many homes where crimes take place are destroyed for several reasons. Dahmer's apartment complex was destroyed as it reminded all the neighborhood of the atrocities he committed. Also, for the victims families as demolishing the building eliminates souvenir hunter types or just people looking for a morbid thrill of seeing it. Like I said, if someone has no problem living in a home like that good for them but they in many states be informed

Yep, in the case here the guy murdered them elsewhere & just hid the bodies in his garden so nothing actually happened at the premises.

Not interviewed in the actual segment (I think he was deceased by then), but if Eleanor Platt's father was anything in real life like they made him out to be in the re-enactment, then he was horribly racist. If anybody doesn't remember, it was the segment about an interracial romance that took place during the 50s (when such things were almost never tolerated), and when the father found out that Eleanor wanted to the marry the guy, he points a gun at him and says "marry this".

Never saw the Black Hope Curse as being racist either-just stupid superstitious nonsense & overactive imaginations resulting from that. Probably the best directed segment they ever did though.

That, or people getting badly under water on their new houses and trying to sue their way out. I seem to recall a lawsuit being mentioned in that segment, though I haven't seen it in a while.


If some old codger had showed up at my door and said "Hey, there's a bunch of slaves buried in your backyard!" I'd have just been like "Well, good. Dead neighbors are quiet neighbors." I certainly wouldn't have tried to dig them up.

Malaika Griffin was the first one who came to mind. She seemed crazy at the time, but given the current climate she may just get that race war! ohno:

Definitely whomever killed O'Neal Moore.

Those responsible for prosecuting the sailors in the aftermath of the Port Chicago disaster.

Melody Martin, the mother of Paloma Gibson. She kidnapped her and brainwashed her into believing her father - and all African-Americans were evil SOBs.

Melody Martin, the mother of Paloma Gibson. She kidnapped her and brainwashed her into believing her father - and all African-Americans were evil SOBs.

And abandoned her own two darker children. What a horrible excuse for a human being!

Malaika Griffin pretty much made it explicitly known that she hated white people.