She looked 29 years old lol I guess Sally made the right choice in putting the baby up for adoption since she had no job or anything and it was better than keeping the baby and being on welfare like so many other mothers do today.

She was really rocking that Janis Ian hairdo wasn't she?

She did look way too mature as the part of a high schooler.

That sure was one cute baby. I am glad she didn't take Cliff's first suggestion on how to deal with him.

Yeah , she did look really old for the part. And not to be mean, but that hairdo S*cked! Talk about a bad perm!!!

The baby was adorable, and Cliff is adorable! The ep was really good, heart touching. But, even if it was the right thing to do, and she was broke and would have to be on welfare after having your baby for a while, no woman/mother could/would have a heart to give him up for adoption!

Yeah , she did look really old for the part. And not to be mean, but that hairdo S*cked! Talk about a bad perm!!!

The baby was adorable, and Cliff is adorable! The ep was really good, heart touching. But, even if it was the right thing to do, and she was broke and would have to be on welfare after having your baby for a while, no woman/mother could/would have a heart to give him up for adoption!


For a second I thought Cliff cheated on Barbara and was messing around with Sally lol

She looked 29 years old lol I guess Sally made the right choice in putting the baby up for adoption since she had no job or anything and it was better than keeping the baby and being on welfare like so many other mothers do today.

Is this her?

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/beth-raines/1b/a3b/326

Is this her?

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/beth-raines/1b/a3b/326


Yeah . I think that was her! ;)

Yeah . I think that was her! ;)

Well her Linked-In page says she was at Butler College in 1971-72. I'm assuming that means she graduated in 1972 after four years, which would put her birth year at 1950. The ODAAT episode was 1978, so if she was born in 1950, she was 28 at the time. On the other hand, maybe she quit Butler to go to the American Conservatory Theatre. In that case, 1972 wasn't her graduation year and perhaps '71-'72 was just her freshman year. Which means she was just 18 in '71 and was born in 1953, and would have been 25 on the ODAAT episode. So whatever the case, she was somewhere between 25 and 28 years old -- certainly not a teenager.

Well her Linked-In page says she was at Butler College in 1971-72. I'm assuming that means she graduated in 1972 after four years, which would put her birth year at 1950. The ODAAT episode was 1978, so if she was born in 1950, she was 28 at the time. On the other hand, maybe she quit Butler to go to the American Conservatory Theatre. In that case, 1972 wasn't her graduation year and perhaps '71-'72 was just her freshman year. Which means she was just 18 in '71 and was born in 1953, and would have been 25 on the ODAAT episode. So whatever the case, she was somewhere between 25 and 28 years old -- certainly not a teenager.


Yeah! And I don't want to sound mean or shallow or anything, but she really wasn't very attractive either! :( I mean they didn't have to cast a raving beauty in the role, but well I think Sally was badly miscast! :confused:

Yeah! And I don't want to sound mean or shallow or anything, but she really wasn't very attractive either! :( I mean they didn't have to cast a raving beauty in the role, but well I think Sally was badly miscast! :confused:

Meanie! :lol:

Yeah! And I don't want to sound mean or shallow or anything, but she really wasn't very attractive either! :( I mean they didn't have to cast a raving beauty in the role, but well I think Sally was badly miscast! :confused:


Yeah, it did not seem that this would be the type of girl that Cliff would go for either???

Yeah , she did look really old for the part. And not to be mean, but that hairdo S*cked! Talk about a bad perm!!!

The baby was adorable, and Cliff is adorable! The ep was really good, heart touching. But, even if it was the right thing to do, and she was broke and would have to be on welfare after having your baby for a while, no woman/mother could/would have a heart to give him up for adoption!


OK! I don't want to be weird by quoting my own posts! :D But I'm just rebooting the thread, and I feel the same way I did when I saw this ep the last time! ;)

Even more so, I was in tears watching tonight! :(


And IDK maybe I didn't know about Valerie And Cliff (sorry I can't think of the actors real name at the moment) were really dating back when this aired last time around, but them kissing out in the hallway!! OMG!!!! The CHEMISTRY between them was THROUGH THE ROOF!!!! :eek:

Yeah! And I don't want to sound mean or shallow or anything, but she really wasn't very attractive either! :( I mean they didn't have to cast a raving beauty in the role, but well I think Sally was badly miscast! :confused:



OK!! Now I REALLY don't want to sound shallow and mean. But this girl was FUGLY!!!!!!!!:( And OK she was going on a job interview, but she was wearing a man's suit , it looked like!! And that perm was SO BAD!!! :eek: WHOA!!!! She looked like Arnold Horshak's (from Welcome back Kotter )fraternal twin! :D

OK!! Now I REALLY don't want to sound shallow and mean. But this girl was FUGLY!!!!!!!!:( And OK she was going on a job interview, but she was wearing a man's suit , it looked like!! And that perm was SO BAD!!! :eek: WHOA!!!! She looked like Arnold Horshak's (from Welcome back Kotter )fraternal twin! :D
LOL!!!!!

and apparently baby Michael was portrayed by twin girls!:D

and apparently baby Michael was portrayed by twin girls!:D


Awwww! :)

This was Cliffs last episode, ending with him and Barbara closer then ever. Does anyone remember if he was even ever mentioned again?

Oh well, memories
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He reminds me of Gregory Beecroft a soup actor who played Tony Reardon on Guiding Light in the 80's! I had a HUGE crush on him. It is just the picture, he really didn't have an orange face! Haha!


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He reminds me of Gregory Beecroft a soup actor who played Tony Reardon on Guiding Light in the 80's! I had a HUGE crush on him. It is just the picture, he really didn't have an orange face! Haha!


https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQYCiimS36zJePWalHWhV6te6LHPv57lYXXxnz657sqXXHNnXgd

He would have made a good Oompa Loompa-

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Too tall.

He would have made a good Oompa Loompa-

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:lol: :D



"Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-dee-do. I have a perfect puzzle for you"!! :D

This was Cliffs last episode, ending with him and Barbara closer then ever. Does anyone remember if he was even ever mentioned again?



Answering my own question, he was, in the Greg Evigan/Jealousy episode.

Answering my own question, he was, in the Greg Evigan/Jealousy episode.

Yeah he was mentioned twice tonight. So he is still at the same school with Barbara didn't move away or anything! Was it ever explained why in the show they broke up? Was it because he Fathered that child with Sally? Poor Barb, first her and Cliff break up and than she likes this Doug who turns out liking Julie instead! Wow! :(