Coming to Logo April 11:

http://blog.sitcomsonline.com/2015/04/the-facts-of-life-coming-to-logo-new.html

This is great news!!

It's funny how so many shows FINALLY start airing again AFTER they're released in full on DVD.

I wish it was coming to a channel that respects classics shows like Antenna TV or MeTV because Logo is known for heavy edits for commercials and on screen advertisements. The credits will probably be missing and scenes will be interrupted by commercials.


At least we have the DVDs if we want unedited versions.

I'm going to try and record the episode "The Graduate" from season 7 if they ever get around to airing it. To my knowledge, it's the only episode from the DVD set that has music edits.

I'm going to try and record the episode "The Graduate" from season 7 if they ever get around to airing it. To my knowledge, it's the only episode from the DVD set that has music edits.

Why bother? They edit shows to death on Logo so I am sure that the music will be gone as well. You are better off finding old recordings of the show from Nick at Nite or other reruns to find the music missing from the DVD.

I have some episodes recorded from CTS which is a Canadian station and the music is included for that episode.

Chances are Logo won't air the complete series. They usually pick up shows to only stop airing them after a few weeks/episodes. I have yet to see the entire run of Maude on the network.


I am so glad that Shout Factory was able to clear almost every song. It is better than the Mama's Family sets where scenes were edited out because the music was not cleared. The set is still great but those music numbers made the show and so many were removed

I am glad I kept my old recordings from TBS and ion because those episodes had musical numbers.

I am so glad that Shout Factory was able to clear almost every song. It is better than the Mama's Family sets where scenes were edited out because the music was not cleared. The set is still great but those music numbers made the show and so many were removed

Well MF was a much more musical series than FOL was (MF has around 70 songs, possibly more), so it's a blessing they cleared nearly all of them. The only complete scene totally edited out was the "Harper Days Are Here Again" montage from "Mama For Mayor, Part I". A handful of others they "worked around" to take just the part featuring the sung lyrics out of the scene. So considering there were dozens and dozens and dozens of songs to clear, the folks for MF really did a great job of getting almost everything.

I wonder why The Facts of Life would be on a channel aimed towards the LGBT audience.

Because of the "tomboyish" characters portrayed by Nancy McKeon or Molly Ringwald?

Because the show in its last 2 seasons had George Clooney, who'd been a longtime gaydar target before his marriage?

Because of the implied lesbianism storyline in the very first episode?

Huh. Because the show did at times challenge gender norms for its time, i can see why Logo would want to run the show. Despite the cable channels showing trimmed syndicated cuts, I think that Logo featuring the show will slightly boost DVD sales from interested viewers.

I wonder why The Facts of Life would be on a channel aimed towards the LGBT audience.

Because of the "tomboyish" characters portrayed by Nancy McKeon or Molly Ringwald?

Because the show in its last 2 seasons had George Clooney, who'd been a longtime gaydar target before his marriage?

Because of the implied lesbianism storyline in the very first episode?

Huh. Because the show did at times challenge gender norms for its time, i can see why Logo would want to run the show. Despite the cable channels showing trimmed syndicated cuts, I think that Logo featuring the show will slightly boost DVD sales from interested viewers.

Because the show is about strong women

Because the show is about strong women
I thought the Lifetime, Oxygen, and WE channels specified in shows about "strong women" instead of the LGBT-focused Logo, or am I missing something here?

I thought the Lifetime, Oxygen, and WE channels specified in shows about "strong women" instead of the LGBT-focused Logo, or am I missing something here?

You should be asking why any of these sitcoms are being aired on Logo. None of these shows match their demographic.

I hate their commercials and heavy edits of their programs so I won't be tuning in. I will watch my DVDs before I watch a heavily edited program with tons of commercials and repeated promos over again. To add insult to injury they don't play ending credits which to me is a staple of the classic sitcom era especially with The Facts of Life. The ending credits to that show in my personal opinion are the best.

I gave up on TV Land 8 or so years ago because of how they butcher their programs to make room for commercial to advertise filth, reality and sexual BS not meant for anyone's eyes.

Thanks but no thanks Logo. They air all of my favorite programs but I am far from impressed with their station and won't waste my time tuning in.

These shows belong on either Cozi, Me-TV, Antenna TV or even FamilyNet to name some before they air on Logo.

Josh you should taking a nap in traffic:lol:

Up yours TVFACTFAN! Stop stalking me! You are now following all of my posts and that is creepy. How many times do you plan on telling me to nap in traffic or other creative ways of telling me to kill myself? You are a riot dude!

I am going to stalk you everyday until you leave this board

I want you GONE

I am not going anywhere so just deal with it. You are hilarious if you think your silly comments will make me leave. I am here to stay!

I wonder why The Facts of Life would be on a channel aimed towards the LGBT audience.

Because of the "tomboyish" characters portrayed by Nancy McKeon or Molly Ringwald?

Because the show in its last 2 seasons had George Clooney, who'd been a longtime gaydar target before his marriage?

Because of the implied lesbianism storyline in the very first episode?

Huh. Because the show did at times challenge gender norms for its time, i can see why Logo would want to run the show. Despite the cable channels showing trimmed syndicated cuts, I think that Logo featuring the show will slightly boost DVD sales from interested viewers.

You should be asking why any of these sitcoms are being aired on Logo. None of these shows match their demographic.

I hate their commercials and heavy edits of their programs so I won't be tuning in. I will watch my DVDs before I watch a heavily edited program with tons of commercials and repeated promos over again. To add insult to injury they don't play ending credits which to me is a staple of the classic sitcom era especially with The Facts of Life. The ending credits to that show in my personal opinion are the best.

I gave up on TV Land 8 or so years ago because of how they butcher their programs to make room for commercial to advertise filth, reality and sexual BS not meant for anyone's eyes.

Thanks but no thanks Logo. They air all of my favorite programs but I am far from impressed with their station and won't waste my time tuning in.

These shows belong on either Cozi, Me-TV, Antenna TV or even FamilyNet to name some before they air on Logo.


Neither of you guys get it. Facts Of Life is a very iconic show to a lot of gay guys who grew up in the 80s. Same with The Golden Girls. It's mostly gay nostalgia keeping these shows alive in memories today. Don't believe me? go to Datalounge (a gay message board) and look at how many threads about this show are up and how many people respond to them. The only people I knew who were excited about the complete series DVD were gay men who grew up watching this as children. Plus, even with Lisa's religious views, she's far more beloved in the gay community than someone like Kirk Cameron is, Lisa respects and loves and realizes it's gay people who even still remember who the hell she is today, as we saw from Survivor when a bunch of 30 year olds had no clue who she was, we've never forgotten her.

Shows like Facts Of Life, Golden Girls, Bewitched, Roseanne, I Dream Of Jeannie, etc... make sense on Logo, they are all shows that are beloved in the LGBT community and are regarded as classics to gay men. Plus, at least Logo wants to air Facts, no "straight" or "Family" network wants to, so why not?

Neither of you guys get it. Facts Of Life is a very iconic show to a lot of gay guys who grew up in the 80s. Same with The Golden Girls. It's mostly gay nostalgia keeping these shows alive in memories today. Don't believe me? go to Datalounge (a gay message board) and look at how many threads about this show are up and how many people respond to them. The only people I knew who were excited about the complete series DVD were gay men who grew up watching this as children. Plus, even with Lisa's religious views, she's far more beloved in the gay community than someone like Kirk Cameron is, Lisa respects and loves and realizes it's gay people who even still remember who the hell she is today, as we saw from Survivor when a bunch of 30 year olds had no clue who she was, we've never forgotten her.

Shows like Facts Of Life, Golden Girls, Bewitched, Roseanne, I Dream Of Jeannie, etc... make sense on Logo, they are all shows that are beloved in the LGBT community and are regarded as classics to gay men. Plus, at least Logo wants to air Facts, no "straight" or "Family" network wants to, so why not?
^ I'll proudly ditto every word of this.

Neither of you guys get it. Facts Of Life is a very iconic show to a lot of gay guys who grew up in the 80s. Same with The Golden Girls. It's mostly gay nostalgia keeping these shows alive in memories today. Don't believe me? go to Datalounge (a gay message board) and look at how many threads about this show are up and how many people respond to them. The only people I knew who were excited about the complete series DVD were gay men who grew up watching this as children. Plus, even with Lisa's religious views, she's far more beloved in the gay community than someone like Kirk Cameron is, Lisa respects and loves and realizes it's gay people who even still remember who the hell she is today, as we saw from Survivor when a bunch of 30 year olds had no clue who she was, we've never forgotten her.
Shows like Facts Of Life, Golden Girls, Bewitched, Roseanne, I Dream Of Jeannie, etc... make sense on Logo, they are all shows that are beloved in the LGBT community and are regarded as classics to gay men. Plus, at least Logo wants to air Facts, no "straight" or "Family" network wants to, so why not?

Under this logic I am a gay man. I guess so since gay men are the only ones excited for the DVD. I knew many people who loved the show and were excited for many of these shows coming to DVD and none of them were gay

It still makes no sense that these great shows air on such a crappy network. Just because a few gay people love these shows does not mean that they are gay friendly. That means a few people from the LGBT community like the show. I am black but that does not mean that every black person loves these shows.

Neither of you guys get it. Facts Of Life is a very iconic show to a lot of gay guys who grew up in the 80s. Same with The Golden Girls. It's mostly gay nostalgia keeping these shows alive in memories today. Don't believe me? go to Datalounge (a gay message board) and look at how many threads about this show are up and how many people respond to them. The only people I knew who were excited about the complete series DVD were gay men who grew up watching this as children. Plus, even with Lisa's religious views, she's far more beloved in the gay community than someone like Kirk Cameron is, Lisa respects and loves and realizes it's gay people who even still remember who the hell she is today, as we saw from Survivor when a bunch of 30 year olds had no clue who she was, we've never forgotten her.
Shows like Facts Of Life, Golden Girls, Bewitched, Roseanne, I Dream Of Jeannie, etc... make sense on Logo, they are all shows that are beloved in the LGBT community and are regarded as classics to gay men. Plus, at least Logo wants to air Facts, no "straight" or "Family" network wants to, so why not?

I would also like to point out that many "Family" networks have aired The Facts of Life.

CTS which was a christian station in Canada has aired the show. It aired on USA, Nick at Nite, TV Land, Teen Nick and Hallmark which are all family channels in the past.

Saying these shows are popular in the gay community is a big stretch because that is only a few people you know and not the entire community as a whole.

Norman Lear's sitcoms were as popular to black people as they were to white people so let's add All in the Family, Maude and One Day at a Time to TV One or BET because they are very popular in the black community.

^ I'll proudly ditto every word of this.


I watched FOL as a kid because I had a crush on tootie but would never buy the DVD

I wonder why The Facts of Life would be on a channel aimed towards the LGBT audience.

Because of the "tomboyish" characters portrayed by Nancy McKeon or Molly Ringwald?

Because the show in its last 2 seasons had George Clooney, who'd been a longtime gaydar target before his marriage?

Because of the implied lesbianism storyline in the very first episode?

Huh. Because the show did at times challenge gender norms for its time, i can see why Logo would want to run the show. Despite the cable channels showing trimmed syndicated cuts, I think that Logo featuring the show will slightly boost DVD sales from interested viewers.

I'm surprised at 2 things here:

1. You said Molly Ringwald instead of Julie Anne Haddock, who was the most tomboyish of the girls in season 1

2. You didn't theorize that because Jo was such an iconic character for lesbian viewers (no Jo was not gay, but lots of lesbian viewers looked to her as an icon anyway)

Charlotte Rae and Cloris Leachman are also very well respected in the gay community.

Why bother? They edit shows to death on Logo so I am sure that the music will be gone as well. You are better off finding old recordings of the show from Nick at Nite or other reruns to find the music missing from the DVD.

I have some episodes recorded from CTS which is a Canadian station and the music is included for that episode.

Chances are Logo won't air the complete series. They usually pick up shows to only stop airing them after a few weeks/episodes. I have yet to see the entire run of Maude on the network.


I am so glad that Shout Factory was able to clear almost every song. It is better than the Mama's Family sets where scenes were edited out because the music was not cleared. The set is still great but those music numbers made the show and so many were removed

I am glad I kept my old recordings from TBS and ion because those episodes had musical numbers.


I watched FOL on Logo and thought they did a good job. I didnt see them editing out any scenes although the commerical breaks were long. Also, it seemed like they kept stretching out the commericals and therefore starting the shows later. Ex. an episode would start at 12am, then 12:31 am, then 1:02 am etc.

Speaking of syndication, has anyone read the Wall Street Journal article "Cable TV Shows Are Sped Up to Squeeze in More Ads"? (Google it to read the full article or else you run into a paywall.) Not only do channels like TBS and Logo show cut versions of the episodes, the episodes are also sped up (a.k.a. the "adrenaline time" TV trope).

Speaking of syndication, has anyone read the Wall Street Journal article "Cable TV Shows Are Sped Up to Squeeze in More Ads"? (Google it to read the full article or else you run into a paywall.) Not only do channels like TBS and Logo show cut versions of the episodes, the episodes are also sped up (a.k.a. the "adrenaline time" TV trope).
I kind of thought everyone already knew that most channels do this.

I watched FOL on Logo and thought they did a good job. I didnt see them editing out any scenes although the commerical breaks were long. Also, it seemed like they kept stretching out the commericals and therefore starting the shows later. Ex. an episode would start at 12am, then 12:31 am, then 1:02 am etc.

In other words they did not edit whole scenes like TV Land and other stations would do. They probably did the basic edits where the take snippets from each scene but it is not really noticeable. They also probably did not cut to a commercial in the middle of a sentence.

I am not watching it on Logo simply because I own the entire series from Shout Factory.

How were the ending credits? Did Logo end the show with regular credits or with their own credits?

I am not watching it on Logo simply because I own the entire series from Shout Factory.
That's the only reason I'm not watching it on Logo either. Usually if I own the series I don't watch it on TV, I just watch my DVDs. If I didn't own the series, I'd be watching no matter what channel it was on and just be thankful for what I'm given.

I own the entire series on DVD too plus I don't even have cable so I probably won't ever see it on Logo. But I am glad to know it's airing somewhere finally.

That's the only reason I'm not watching it on Logo either. Usually if I own the series I don't watch it on TV, I just watch my DVDs. If I didn't own the series, I'd be watching no matter what channel it was on and just be thankful for what I'm given.

The only way I will watch something on TV that I own on DVD is if the DVD edits are really bad and I can watch better versions on TV. That is very rare though because I won't buy a set that contains butchered episodes unless the bonus features make up for short episodes.

Under this logic I am a gay man. I guess so since gay men are the only ones excited for the DVD. I knew many people who loved the show and were excited for many of these shows coming to DVD and none of them were gay

It still makes no sense that these great shows air on such a crappy network. Just because a few gay people love these shows does not mean that they are gay friendly. That means a few people from the LGBT community like the show. I am black but that does not mean that every black person loves these shows.
Logo's programming in general is crap. It's mostly RuPaul's Drag Race.

Considering it's a channel geared to LGBT audiences, i don't see what is wrong about them picking up old sitcoms or how it "doesn't fit the demographic"? What, do you think gay people only want to watch Drag Race and reruns of Queer As Folk? You might be shocked but those female-driven sitcoms actually work on a LGBT network because they are shows that have a strong LGBT fanbase. You do realize there is an all-drag Facts Of Life revue, right?

Saying these shows are popular in the gay community is a big stretch because that is only a few people you know and not the entire community as a whole..

Seriously, go to Datalounge sometime and type in Facts Of Life sometime since you believe it's 5 gay guys.

And the only people who'd deny just how massively iconic The Golden Girls is in the LGBT community is someone who has never met a gay person. That's as ridiculous as saying that Cher, Madonna, Lady Gaga or Barbra Streisand aren't really gay icons and that only ten or so gay men out there actually like them. The Golden Girls may very well be the most popular show of all time in the gay comunity, and Facts Of Life isn't far behind. Believe it or not, not all gay people love Drag Race, Will And Grace, Glee, Modern Family or Looking.

You'd be hardpressed to meet a gay guy born between 1970-1980 who never watched either of those shows... in the case of The Golden Girls I'd stretch it to 1990 or even later than that because of the endless reruns over the years. You could go to Youtube and find testimonials from 20-something gay men who were so sad when Estelle, Rue and Bea died that they had to make vlogs about it. On the other hand, I've never even seen an episode of Modern Family or Looking and quit watching Glee probably midway into the first season. Don't underestimate the power of "female power" amongst gay men, especially given the fondness gays are known to hold onto nostalgia and now that these people who were kids in the 1980s are now the ones programming networks such as this one. Facts, Golden Girls, Roseanne and Bewitched reruns will get more people in the target demo to tune in than some really godawful in-house production solely geared for gay men with poor acting and writing.

Seriously, go to Datalounge sometime and type in Facts Of Life sometime since you believe it's 5 gay guys.
And the only people who'd deny just how massively iconic The Golden Girls is in the LGBT community is someone who has never met a gay person. That's as ridiculous as saying that Cher, Madonna, Lady Gaga or Barbra Streisand aren't really gay icons and that only ten or so gay men out there actually like them.
Those shows are more iconic than RuPaul's Drag Race, Glee or Modern Family ever will be to a generation of gay men. You'd be hardpressed to meet a gay guy born between 1970-1980 who never watched either of those shows... in the case of The Golden Girls I'd stretch it to 1990 because of the endless reruns over the years. You could go to Youtube and find testimonials from 20-something gay men who were sad when Estelle, Rue and Bea died.

Just because gay/black/white or whatever races of people watch something does not mean that they are the major demographic

I don't see how someone watching a drag race will want to sit down and watch these classic sitcoms. They may watch them because they are on the same channel that airs those shows but it does not mean that they have a big following by a certain community.

These shows have just as big of a black following but that does not mean these shows belong on a network that airs programming geared for black people.

That is all I am saying so please don't twist my words around. I don't deny that these shows have a major following but that does not mean that they belong on a channel like Logo.

People who truly enjoy classics want to see these shows on a channel like Antenna TV, Me-TV that primarily play classics not a channel that plays a few classics then play other things.

I have nothing against Logo besides how badly shows are butchered and the quality of commercials they air.

^
I'll agree with you on the quality of the commercials on Logo. I'm gay and I find some of them offensive and crude.

I looked up the Logo network schedule and noticed the channel shows Who's the Boss and Bewitched mornings. JoshLarson said earlier in this thread that shows like those "don't meet the demographic" (a rough paraphrase) of that network. Assuming he means the 18-35 demographic, he's kinda correct. But I don't think this programming decision is as much an age demographic as sexual orientation demographic decision. Both shows I mention have LGBT actors (Danny Pinaturo in Boss and Dick Sargent on Bewitched).

And I Dream of Jeannie is also on Logo?

It seems like Logo does cater a little more towards gays and women. I mean I watch Logo for Roseanne, The Golden Girls, Who's the Boss. I dont think a show like Seinfeld would work on Logo but I do think Friends would.

I do disagree with Josh on one thing. The classic sitcoms that Logo does air fits there demographic.

It seems like Logo does cater a little more towards gays and women. I mean I watch Logo for Roseanne, The Golden Girls, Who's the Boss. I dont think a show like Seinfeld would work on Logo but I do think Friends would.

I do disagree with Josh on one thing. The classic sitcoms that Logo does air fits there demographic.
Exactly. Shows like Bewitched, Roseanne, Facts, Golden Girls, Jeannie, etc... that Logo airs does actually fit the target demographic. I wish they'd pick up and air shows like One Day At A Time (some of us don't get ME TV) or Laverne And Shirley as well. Female centric comedy that also has strong nostalgia pull works well on a network geared mostly to gay men because all of those aforementioned shows are considered classics to that demographic and are fondly remembered.

Exactly. Shows like Bewitched, Roseanne, Facts, Golden Girls, Jeannie, etc... that Logo airs does actually fit the target demographic. I wish they'd pick up and air shows like One Day At A Time (some of us don't get ME TV) or Laverne And Shirley as well. Female centric comedy that also has strong nostalgia pull works well on a network geared mostly to gay men because all of those aforementioned shows are considered classics to that demographic and are fondly remembered.

One Day at a Time airs on Antenna TV not Me-TV. I definitely think that show does not belong on Logo. If they are going to ruin classics they better not touch One Day at a Time. It's bad enough the got their hands on The Facts of Life.

I have a problem with the quality or commercials they air and the way they butcher programs to make more room for those crummy commercials.

People will see these classics listed on their guides and get excited but be very disappointed when they see the crap being aired as commercials.

I also dislike that some of my favorites air on Lifetime and Oxygen because of those Bad Girls Club promos and other creepy reality shows on these days.

Deviating from my earlier theory about cable syndication = exposure for the classic show = DVD sales, I also gotta wonder if the cable channels showing sped-up/butchered versions of classic shows discourages people from buying the shows on DVD, since casual viewers don't understand that the cable channels show versions of the programs way different from the original network broadcasts from decades past.

At least you don't need to pay a premium to watch Antenna TV and Me-TV, networks that respect their properties (no further edits than what the distributor provided, no disruptive on-air graphics)

Deviating from my earlier theory about cable syndication = exposure for the classic show = DVD sales, I also gotta wonder if the cable channels showing sped-up/butchered versions of classic shows discourages people from buying the shows on DVD, since casual viewers don't understand that the cable channels show versions of the programs way different from the original network broadcasts from decades past.
At least you don't need to pay a premium to watch Antenna TV and Me-TV, networks that respect their properties (no further edits than what the distributor provided, no disruptive on-air graphics)

Syndication does not necessarily mean DVD sales. With the exception of the people I meet here, I don't know many who actually go out and buy DVD sets of TV show.

Most of the people I know are content just watching these shows on TV and have not intention in dropping 23 dollars or so on a season or 100 dollars or so on a complete series.

Most of us on here will buy the DVDs in a heartbeat while many will simply watch them on TV and don't really care if the show is edited or not.

On many occasions I have told relatives that their favorite series is on DVD and they acted like they could care less since they wanted to just watch it on TV and not fumble through DVDs, blu rays or stream a show.

As far as Logo butchering the shows with endless commericals and cutting out scenes, there not the only network to do that. Hello, TV Land.:mad:

As far as Logo butchering the shows with endless commericals and cutting out scenes, there not the only network to do that. Hello, TV Land.:mad:

TV Land was mentioned already. When I mentioned how Logo butchered shows I also referenced TV Land.

Syndication does not necessarily mean DVD sales. With the exception of the people I meet here, I don't know many who actually go out and buy DVD sets of TV show.

Most of the people I know are content just watching these shows on TV and have not intention in dropping 23 dollars or so on a season or 100 dollars or so on a complete series.

Most of us on here will buy the DVDs in a heartbeat while many will simply watch them on TV and don't really care if the show is edited or not.

On many occasions I have told relatives that their favorite series is on DVD and they acted like they could care less since they wanted to just watch it on TV and not fumble through DVDs, blu rays or stream a show.

In short, from what I know, watching older TV shows on-demand is a far superior, less expensive experience than subscribing to cable to watch them.

Those people you talk about are content with spending $40/month to watch those shows on the network's conditions (both schedule and content wise), instead of $20/season or $100/series to be able to watch and own the original-for-broadcast (well, in most cases, especially considering music rights) the shows? Alternatively, they can buy a Netflix subscription for as low as $8/month to rent/stream their favorite shows on DVD.

If the people you mention don't have any DVD/streaming capable devices at home I get their drift. Still, syndication does give shows more exposure after cancellation thus expanding the potential DVD market. Think The Brady Bunch or WKRP in Cincinnati. And there are shows largely still unavailable on DVD like Who's the Boss? or One Day at a Time (both of which have only their first seasons available on DVD) that benefit from syndication.

its not on my Netflix I got a usa one I missed this show glad it back on finally.even though it on logo

I just caught a bit of an episode aired on Logo today. Not on purpose though just because it was on while I was channel surfing.

This show is definitely not a fit for Logo from the little bit I saw. It is a little too wholesome for a channel that airs reality garbage. It is also very cut up and the commercials are too long. Reality TV is for the dogs.


They cut out the ending credits so that is always a deal breaker for me. I hope they don't continue adding classics, they are going to ruin these shows.

I just caught a bit of an episode aired on Logo today. Not on purpose though just because it was on while I was channel surfing.

This show is definitely not a fit for Logo from the little bit I saw. It is a little too wholesome for a channel that airs reality garbage. It is also very cut up and the commercials are too long. Reality TV is for the dogs.


They cut out the ending credits so that is always a deal breaker for me. I hope they don't continue adding classics, they are going to ruin these shows.
If you don't want to watch "The Facts of Life" on Logo then don't. No one is forcing you.

You've made it clear now how you feel about the channel. It's also clear as glass that without saying it, you pretty much say it every time that the real reason you don't like Logo is because it's a LGBT channel. I'm not a board moderator but if I were, I'd tell you to stop complaining and buy the DVD set if you don't want to watch it on Logo. Stop complaining and be thankful for what you've been given...it could be worse.

I guess it's a good thing then that I don't have Logo and I have the DVD set to watch instead. No commercials and mostly full episodes.

If you don't want to watch "The Facts of Life" on Logo then don't. No one is forcing you.
You've made it clear now how you feel about the channel. It's also clear as glass that without saying it, you pretty much say it every time that the real reason you don't like Logo is because it's a LGBT channel. I'm not a board moderator but if I were, I'd tell you to stop complaining and buy the DVD set if you don't want to watch it on Logo. Stop complaining and be thankful for what you've been given...it could be worse.

Hold the phone buddy! You are crossing the line calling me names here. My dislike of the channel has nothing to do with it being an LGBT channel. I happen to be an avid supporter of the LGBT community. Watch what you say to me buddy! You are in hot water for this statement!

I mentioned that I have the DVD set so your comment angers me even more! I said that I was changing the channel and caught a bit of the show. Like I said I would not watch this show on Logo as a daily/weekly basis.

Many people complain about edited and butchered shows. Since I am complaining about a channel that happens to air programming geared towards the LGBT community I am some sort of bigot now?

How small minded are you?

Keep your negative comments to your self. I was sharing my opinion and should not be judged for that. I clearly am stating that I to see these classic shows get good treatment and not be butchered to death.

If you don't want to watch "The Facts of Life" on Logo then don't. No one is forcing you.
You've made it clear now how you feel about the channel. It's also clear as glass that without saying it, you pretty much say it every time that the real reason you don't like Logo is because it's a LGBT channel. I'm not a board moderator but if I were, I'd tell you to stop complaining and buy the DVD set if you don't want to watch it on Logo. Stop complaining and be thankful for what you've been given...it could be worse.

Be thankful for what you are given? Really?

When I pay all of this money for cable I complain as much as I want! If I pay over 200 dollars for cable then I expect some quality for my money!

Hold the phone buddy! You are crossing the line calling me names here. My dislike of the channel has nothing to do with it being an LGBT channel. I happen to be an avid supporter of the LGBT community. Watch what you say to me buddy! You are in hot water for this statement!

I mentioned that I have the DVD set so your comment angers me even more! I said that I was changing the channel and caught a bit of the show. Like I said I would not watch this show on Logo as a daily/weekly basis.

Many people complain about edited and butchered shows. Since I am complaining about a channel that happens to air programming geared towards the LGBT community I am some sort of bigot now?

How small minded are you?

Keep your negative comments to your self. I was sharing my opinion and should not be judged for that. I clearly am stating that I to see these classic shows get good treatment and not be butchered to death.

I'm sorry if I offended you but the way you were "complaining" sounded like you didn't want to watch "TFOL" on Logo because it's a channel geared towards the LGBT community.

Believe me, I'm not small minded. I'm very liberal but I'm a republican. In fact, I'm a thirty-two year old gay republican.....how small minded is that...??! LOL :)

I'm sorry if I offended you but the way you were "complaining" sounded like you didn't want to watch "TFOL" on Logo because it's a channel geared towards the LGBT community.
Believe me, I'm not small minded. I'm very liberal but I'm a republican. In fact, I'm a thirty-two year old gay republican.....how small minded is that...??! LOL :)

It's all cool. I sometimes can be very defensive when I feel like I am being accused of something false. I hope I did not say anything to offend you in my reply.

It's all cool. I sometimes can be very defensive when I feel like I am being accused of something false. I hope I did not say anything to offend you in my reply.
Nope. You didn't offend me one little bit. I have a very thick skin when it comes to certain "comments". I always take what people throw at me and turn it into something good to help someone else. Negative things can't get you down if you don't let them.

I have it set to auto record every time it comes on. I don't have DVD money right now. So, this is pretty much my only legal way to see the show. Ha.

I have it set to auto record every time it comes on. I don't have DVD money right now. So, this is pretty much my only legal way to see the show. Ha.

Wait. How much do you pay per month for cable? A year's worth of cable has gotta be more expensive (and less bang for the buck) than a one-time down payment for the complete series DVD.

we got bundle for free at Comcast long story I love it so glad FOL is back on tv just wish they wouldn't speed it up n cut off the endng 5th season starting soon

I would much rather buy DVD versions (assuming they are unedited) regardless of the cost if it means avoiding butchered episodes on TV with any channel.

I don't watch many classics on TV these days because of how they are butchered for commercials. Even the best channels out there have episodes that are butchered for time.

we got bundle for free at Comcast long story I love it so glad FOL is back on tv just wish they wouldn't speed it up n cut off the endng 5th season starting soon

MikeL no need to share your personal stories on here. There are judgmental people out there who will feel superior about their situations by reading certain things.

I would much rather buy DVD versions (assuming they are unedited) regardless of the cost if it means avoiding butchered episodes on TV with any channel.

I don't watch many classics on TV these days because of how they are butchered for commercials. Even the best channels out there have episodes that are butchered for time.
Sabrina the Teenage Witch is the only show I own all the seasons of that I still watch when I can on TV because of all the music replacements/edits that were done on the DVDs.

I know I may get backlash for saying this but I sometimes like to compare Sabrina to The Wonder Years because the music played such a huge part in telling the stories. The DVDs of Sabrina just aren't the same without all the '90s music.

Sabrina the Teenage Witch is the only show I own all the seasons of that I still watch when I can on TV because of all the music replacements/edits that were done on the DVDs.

I know I may get backlash for saying this but I sometimes like to compare Sabrina to The Wonder Years because the music played such a huge part in telling the stories. The DVDs of Sabrina just aren't the same without all the '90s music.

I too love Sabrina, but I only wanted to buy the first 3 seasons on DVD, the "early years" before all of the major changes took place (I know some took place after season 1, but the "formula" of the show was still the same for seasons 2 and 3). I would probably miss the original music too, but it had been so long since I saw the episodes on TV that I don't know what the edits/replacements were in the first place.

FOL has a big gay following.

I just watched the episode "Grand Opening". Wasn't there a scene where Andy wears the silent artist outfit?

Logo doesn't seem to have seasons 1-2 or seasons 8-9 except for a few episodes. Why even bother airing a series if you don't have the whole thing? Really makes me a bit angry.

Logo doesn't seem to have seasons 1-2 or seasons 8-9 except for a few episodes. Why even bother airing a series if you don't have the whole thing? Really makes me a bit angry.

Why be angry? Many channels do this with their programming. They air a show but not the full run leaving many episodes to air later or never.


The complete series is on DVD so those seasons can be bought if you want to see them.

Why be angry? Many channels do this with their programming. They air a show but not the full run leaving many episodes to air later or never.

I've heard of a channel airing a series but not airing the it all the way to the end, but I've never heard of anyone airing a show not starting from the pilot and first season. Odd... :confused:

I've heard of a channel airing a series but not airing the it all the way to the end, but I've never heard of anyone airing a show not starting from the pilot and first season. Odd... :confused:


Sci-Fi did this when they first acquired Dark Shadows. They skipped the first 209 episodes so they could start with the vampire storyline of Barnabas Collins. Networks may do this to get to the seasons that fit their demographic audience first and then play back from the beginning of the series. However if Logo is skipping seasons 8 & 9, that doesn't make any sense. Those two seasons would be a big part for their demographic audience.

As one member pointed out, it's best just buying the DVD sets to rewatch the show. Syndication has gotten worse over the years with editing for commercials that some episodes don't even make sense when being rerun. Alice is a good example of this when it was on ION. Plus those animated banners at the bottom of the screen to advertise a movie or show get annoying.

Sci-Fi did this when they first acquired Dark Shadows. They skipped the first 209 episodes so they could start with the vampire storyline of Barnabas Collins. Networks may do this to get to the seasons that fit their demographic audience first and then play back from the beginning of the series. However if Logo is skipping seasons 8 & 9, that doesn't make any sense. Those two seasons would be a big part for their demographic audience.
As one member pointed out, it's best just buying the DVD sets to rewatch the show. Syndication has gotten worse over the years with editing for commercials that some episodes don't even make sense when being rerun. Alice is a good example of this when it was on ION. Plus those animated banners at the bottom of the screen to advertise a movie or show get annoying.

I can't stand the crap that is going on with syndication today. Whenever I hear that my favorite classic is coming to TV, I automatically wonder how much will be edited and how many advertisements will pop up on the screen.

They have totally bastardized these classics with all of the edits and on screen advertisements they do. To add insult to injury they even cut the credits or end one show while another on begins via condensed credits.

I either buy the DVDs or watch my favorite classics on the classic stations available over the air because there are less ridiculous edits for commercials and no advertisements on screen or condensed credits.

I refuse to watch classics on cable networks because they are the main culprits in this game of slicing and dicing shows.

I wish I had LOGO dammit!

Edit: I found it, nevermind.