Dr. Lilith Sternin
03-18-2002, 07:28 PM
After giving much thought to the said topic, "Who Has Their Men More Whipped?", I've concluded that Lilith is the half-tamed shrew. It's like a modern warped version of Shakespeare's comedy. Depending on which way you look at it, she changed a lot from when she was first introduced; yet, she still remains headstrong and doesn't yield to her husband in that respect. *pauses* Let me attempt to convey what I mean. :confused:
In Abnormal Psychology, she is adamant in going against everything Frasier says. They both irritate each other to no end. Lilith possesses those same woman lib. qualities that Katherine clings on to throughout most of TOTS. Sam and Diane remind me much of Bianca and Hortensio in the respect they feel the need to help Frasier find happiness. Of course, that's not the same plot as TOTS, but as the eldest, Katherine must marry before Bianca does, therefore finding her a suitor is the main objective. Too bad Katherine is a complete shrew and doesn't bow down to men. (Much like Lilith!)
Going back to Frasier and Lilith... once Frasier takes charge and says "I'm going to kiss you now!" Lilith totally melts. :lol: On some level, he "tamed" her.
However...
"I am ashamed that women are so simple. To offer war where they should kneel for peace, or seek for rule, supremacy, and sway, when they are bound to serve, love, and obey. Why are our body's soft, and weak, and smooth? Unapt to toil and trouble in the world, but that our soft conditions and our hearts should well agree with our external parts? Come, come you froward and unable worms, my mind hath been as big as one of yours -- my heart as great, my reason haply more, to bandy word for word and frown for frown. But now I see our lances are but straws, our strength as weak, our weakness past compare, that seeming to be most which we indeed least are. Then vail your stomachs, for it is no boot, and place your hands below your husband's foot. In token of which duty, if he please, my hand is ready, may it do him ease."
Yeah, uh, NO. I don't think we'd ever see Lilith saying anything along THOSE lines. That's where the half-taming comes in. I view her as the modern day Katharine. She was tamed to the point where she could actually SURVIVE in a relationship, yet she still kept enough of her over-bearing personality to keep Frasier in check and keep audiences in hysterics. :lol:
What do you think? Is Lilith a half-tamed shrew?
In Abnormal Psychology, she is adamant in going against everything Frasier says. They both irritate each other to no end. Lilith possesses those same woman lib. qualities that Katherine clings on to throughout most of TOTS. Sam and Diane remind me much of Bianca and Hortensio in the respect they feel the need to help Frasier find happiness. Of course, that's not the same plot as TOTS, but as the eldest, Katherine must marry before Bianca does, therefore finding her a suitor is the main objective. Too bad Katherine is a complete shrew and doesn't bow down to men. (Much like Lilith!)
Going back to Frasier and Lilith... once Frasier takes charge and says "I'm going to kiss you now!" Lilith totally melts. :lol: On some level, he "tamed" her.
However...
"I am ashamed that women are so simple. To offer war where they should kneel for peace, or seek for rule, supremacy, and sway, when they are bound to serve, love, and obey. Why are our body's soft, and weak, and smooth? Unapt to toil and trouble in the world, but that our soft conditions and our hearts should well agree with our external parts? Come, come you froward and unable worms, my mind hath been as big as one of yours -- my heart as great, my reason haply more, to bandy word for word and frown for frown. But now I see our lances are but straws, our strength as weak, our weakness past compare, that seeming to be most which we indeed least are. Then vail your stomachs, for it is no boot, and place your hands below your husband's foot. In token of which duty, if he please, my hand is ready, may it do him ease."
Yeah, uh, NO. I don't think we'd ever see Lilith saying anything along THOSE lines. That's where the half-taming comes in. I view her as the modern day Katharine. She was tamed to the point where she could actually SURVIVE in a relationship, yet she still kept enough of her over-bearing personality to keep Frasier in check and keep audiences in hysterics. :lol:
What do you think? Is Lilith a half-tamed shrew?