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isiahthomas
12-18-2014, 03:35 PM
I went to the social services office recently because I had applied for temporary cash assistance and medicare. I got a letter from them saying that I had applied for temporary disability assistance and I didn't apply for that. So I called the office and I talked to a woman who said I would have to come to the office if I wanna apply for temporary cash. So I go there and I talk to a woman and she tells me I gotta go to the social security office and apply for social security disability. She also told me that I gotta go to my doctor and get a copy of my medical records. Once I do that, then she said I have to come back to social services and give them the information and they make a decision whether or not I can get temporary cash. When she told me that, I was so mad because I felt like why should I have to go to social security office and apply for social security disability when I'm not disabled and why should I go to my doctor to get my medical records? That stuff shouldn't have nothing to do with me getting temporary cash. I need some damn money until I can get a full time job. If I could get a job, I wouldn't have come to them to apply for temporary cash.


Then I talk to the employment office yesterday and the lady tells me that I'm disqualified for unemployment money because I was fired from my previous job. She also tells me I should file a appeal to try to get eligibility for unemployment money. I told her I know I would lose if I filed a appeal and she said don't say that because I've seen people get their appeals overturned and I said yeah right. I'm not wasting my time filing a appeal because I know I'm gonna lose. The employment office already took my previous job's side and agreed with their decision as to why I was fired. So since they wanna be as*holes and not pay me, I'm gonna stop filing weekly claims and wait until my unemployment benefits expire in June and reapply for unemployment. I hope i'll have a full time job by next spring or summer so I won't have to deal with the employment office anymore.

isiahthomas
12-19-2014, 04:34 PM
I'm really disappointed in ya'll that nobody responded to this. This is a serious problem that needs to be talked about and nobody has anything to say about this. If any of ya'll were in my situation, i would respond to your topic and give you some advice. I know I'm not the only person in this situation because there's some black men that are in my situation and they're tired of being unemployed and homeless. I'm lucky I got a place to live because I know if my parents weren't around, I'd be homeless. I'm struggling to find a full time job and I can't get any money from social services or the employment office. I got a part time job and the money I'm getting isn't enough for me to take care of myself because I can't pay my parents rent and I can't pay for car repairs. Money I get is only enough to buy food, gas for my car and my 2 bills which is a credit card and car insurance.



I don't know when I'm gonna get a full time job because no jobs have been emailing me or calling me. I get pissed off emailing jobs and they ignore me as if I don't have nothing better to do than to be on the internet for hours looking for a job. I was lucky I got approved for health insurance from social services. So I'm grateful to them for helping me out with that. I'm supposed to be receiving my health insurance card in the mail in about a week and I'm gonna be provided with a list of health providers. Like I said, social services office needs to change their rules for helping unemployed men. It's really sad that unemployment and homelessness will always be problems in America because the government isn't really trying to help men that are in that situation and that's really pathetic. Social services is geared towards helping women whether they got kids or not and not single men. Then people wonder why crime is so high in black neighborhoods. I wouldn't even be going to social services for money if I could get a full time job.


What I plan on doing when I get my health insurance card is going to see a doctor and getting tested to see if I have a learning disability. If I get diagnosed for having that, then I'm gonna apply for social security disability and see what happens because it's possible I may not be able to work a full time job ever again.

Coffeecup
12-19-2014, 06:32 PM
I feel for you. It is an awful run around. You have to run here and there and it gets very discouraging.

Bonniegirl
12-20-2014, 02:37 AM
I'm sorry Isiahthomas. I have been away for a few days. I'm sorry you are having problems. It is hard dealing with unemployment and trying to find jobs when the economy is bad, and than trying to get some financial help and getting a run around. Hope things get better for you!

isiahthomas
12-20-2014, 01:04 PM
Thanks ya'll for your support. I'm glad you two responded to this because this is a serious problem that needs to be discussed and I'm surprised this topic hasn't gotten more responses. Unemployment and homelessness are 2 serious problems in America that are never gonna go away unless the government helps people especially men who are in these situations. Like I said, social services is geared towards helping women more than men and that's not right. There's more men that are unemployed than women and they need money and a place to live. I don't know why social services believes that it should be easier for men to get a job than women and that's bullsh*t because it's not easy to find a job especially when you're a black man. I wish ya'll could've seen how many black men were at the social services office when I went there. It was a long line of blacks and there were more black men than black women. I saw a couple of Hispanics there but it was mostly blacks.

TVFactFan
12-21-2014, 01:45 PM
I went to the social services office recently because I had applied for temporary cash assistance and medicare. I got a letter from them saying that I had applied for temporary disability assistance and I didn't apply for that. So I called the office and I talked to a woman who said I would have to come to the office if I wanna apply for temporary cash. So I go there and I talk to a woman and she tells me I gotta go to the social security office and apply for social security disability. She also told me that I gotta go to my doctor and get a copy of my medical records. Once I do that, then she said I have to come back to social services and give them the information and they make a decision whether or not I can get temporary cash. When she told me that, I was so mad because I felt like why should I have to go to social security office and apply for social security disability when I'm not disabled and why should I go to my doctor to get my medical records? That stuff shouldn't have nothing to do with me getting temporary cash. I need some damn money until I can get a full time job. If I could get a job, I wouldn't have come to them to apply for temporary cash.


Then I talk to the employment office yesterday and the lady tells me that I'm disqualified for unemployment money because I was fired from my previous job. She also tells me I should file a appeal to try to get eligibility for unemployment money. I told her I know I would lose if I filed a appeal and she said don't say that because I've seen people get their appeals overturned and I said yeah right. I'm not wasting my time filing a appeal because I know I'm gonna lose. The employment office already took my previous job's side and agreed with their decision as to why I was fired. So since they wanna be as*holes and not pay me, I'm gonna stop filing weekly claims and wait until my unemployment benefits expire in June and reapply for unemployment. I hope i'll have a full time job by next spring or summer so I won't have to deal with the employment office anymore.


I was fired and appealed and the decision was overturned. So always appeal

simmytbone
12-21-2014, 07:00 PM
I feel for ya my brother, I think that you do need to stand up and keep on fighting b/c you don't deserve this, you deserve BETTER my friend

isiahthomas
12-22-2014, 02:16 PM
Alright TVFactFan I'm gonna take your advice. How did you win your appeal?

Mace Dolex
12-22-2014, 03:00 PM
In 2009 I had filed for unemployment because my previous job fired me, dont know how those benefits work because I thought you had to have quit your job in order to qualify but they approved me and gave me unemployment checks.

Ive never gone to social services for cash so I don't know how that works.

Bonniegirl
12-22-2014, 03:08 PM
Yeah , like the other posters said, appeal it. It doesn't hurt to try. Hoping they rule in your favor. Fingers crossed for you!

TVFactFan
12-22-2014, 03:10 PM
Alright TVFactFan I'm gonna take your advice. How did you win your appeal?


By emphasizing I never received a verbal or written warning. So I never was given the opportunity to improve after I Made the mistake

isiahthomas
12-22-2014, 03:32 PM
Well I was given a verbal warning. So that's why I didn't wanna file a appeal because I know I'm gonna lose. I went ahead and filed a appeal today and I'm gonna have a hearing on January 8th. So I'm gonna wait and see if i lose because i got a feeling I'm gonna lose. If i lose, then I'm gonna ask the employment office what do i have to do next to get unemployment money. If they tell me i might have to get a lawyer and file a appeal again, then I'm not gonna do that because i can't afford a lawyer. I'm waiting to get my health insurance card in the mail because when i get that, I'm gonna see a doctor and get tested to see if i have a learning disability. If i get diagnosed for that, then I'm gonna apply for social security disability. Then i might have to get a lawyer for that because i might get denied. I heard that getting social security disability money is hard because a lot of people have applied for that and they've gotten denied.

mets82
12-22-2014, 06:49 PM
Isiah, I hope your luck turns around. It seems you have to have one foot in the grave to get any type of help. I mean the economy isnt that great and you need help. I mean maybe write your local town officials, maybe they can help you? I mean, lets face it, any money you do have is to pay bills. Thats not right.

TVFactFan
12-22-2014, 09:43 PM
Well I was given a verbal warning. So that's why I didn't wanna file a appeal because I know I'm gonna lose. I went ahead and filed a appeal today and I'm gonna have a hearing on January 8th. So I'm gonna wait and see if i lose because i got a feeling I'm gonna lose. If i lose, then I'm gonna ask the employment office what do i have to do next to get unemployment money. If they tell me i might have to get a lawyer and file a appeal again, then I'm not gonna do that because i can't afford a lawyer. I'm waiting to get my health insurance card in the mail because when i get that, I'm gonna see a doctor and get tested to see if i have a learning disability. If i get diagnosed for that, then I'm gonna apply for social security disability. Then i might have to get a lawyer for that because i might get denied. I heard that getting social security disability money is hard because a lot of people have applied for that and they've gotten denied.


If you didn't receive a written warning then you may have a shot. A written warning lets you know that your job is in jeopardy

isiahthomas
12-23-2014, 02:14 PM
I didn't receive a written warning. What I'm gonna do is if I lose my appeal, I'm gonna stop filing weekly claims and I'm gonna wait until my unemployment benefits expire in July. Then i'll reapply for unemployment but if my disqualification is still on my record when I reapply, then I'm not gonna reapply. It really pisses me off that the employment office won't pay me anyway when they owe me money since I was laid off from my job. I shouldn't have to give them 2 jobs each week when I file my weekly claim to get money. If I didn't have this part time job, I don't know what the hell I would do to get money because social services doesn't wanna give me money unless I give them a copy of my medical records and I gotta apply for social security disability which is bullsh*t when I'm not disabled. I really hate this world because it sucks the stuff that unemployed people gotta go through to get some money when they can't find a job.

Flying Dutchman
12-23-2014, 03:59 PM
I remember my Mom was out of work when I was like 4 years old. This was back in the 60s. She went in to apply for temporary assistance and took me with her. The worker presented it like she was selling a new car. They practically begged my mom to take it. Not many people were on it then, and they had to prove to the state that they served a necessary purpose.

But people have taken so advantage of it through the years and ripping off the system, that now they practically have u escorted out of the building after saying no.

I knew this intake worker once a few years back. He told me that it's a game now, they try to discourage you from getting it, thinking if you're willing to fight for it, then you really need it.

They used to have a homeless program in Los Angeles CA. where I lived and u could file homeless and they would give you cash, food stamps and Medical, which is California version of Medicaid. They would also put you up in a hotel for 2 weeks till u found a place of ur own

But those days are gone forever. Now you can only get it for 4 years in a lifetime and that's it. You're on your own after that. This has help to increase the amount of the homeless population.

I am truly sorry for your situation, isiahthomas, as it sounds like you really need it. But as it was said, appeal it. Ask to see the county commissioner or whoever is top dog at that office. People here in NY go straight to the county commissioner and usually get things done. If you really need it, you have to keep pushing to get it.

And BTW. I wouldn't stop filing weekly claims if I were you. Just keep doing it in case you appeal and the decision get's overturned. Because that's more money for you. They did that to me a couple of times filing for Unemployment benefits, so I appealed and did what they asked and was approved. I received 10 months of back pay which came out to over $10,000.

isiahthomas
12-23-2014, 04:21 PM
Thanks Flying Dutchman for the advice. I see it's gonna be hard for me to get temporary cash but I'm gonna try and take your advice and talk to a county commissioner because I really need money. I'm also gonna go see a doctor when I get my health insurance card and get tested to see if I have a learning disability. I may have to get government money for the rest of my life because I don't believe i'll get a full time job again. Trying to find a job has been very hard for me and like I said when you have limited job skills, it's very hard to find a job. I have 2 strikes against me when looking for a job which is I'm black and I have limited skills. My parents think I should go back to school and take a couple of classes but I don't wanna do that because I've never been a good student and I don't have money. Going to school costs a lot of money and I don't wanna be in debt.

Flying Dutchman
12-23-2014, 04:25 PM
If you have a disability that is mentally related, apply for SSI, They will put you at the front of the line. I have a daughter with autism and she got SSI within 3 months of applying. I asked why it went so fast and the worker said. We always put people with autism at the front line, so to speak. He said it was also that way for most disabilities mentally related.

mets82
12-23-2014, 04:28 PM
Flying Dutchman, I'm sorry that your daughter has autism.

isiahthomas
12-23-2014, 04:30 PM
Alright thanks Flying Dutchman. I'm gonna apply for SSI after I see a doctor and if he diagnoses me. There wouldn't be no point in me applying for that if a doctor doesn't diagnose me. Do you think I could get SSI if a doctor didn't diagnose me?

Flying Dutchman
12-23-2014, 06:16 PM
TY Mets. In some ways it's not good, but in other ways it can be a blessing.

Flying Dutchman
12-23-2014, 06:18 PM
Alright thanks Flying Dutchman. I'm gonna apply for SSI after I see a doctor and if he diagnoses me. There wouldn't be no point in me applying for that if a doctor doesn't diagnose me. Do you think I could get SSI if a doctor didn't diagnose me?

No that wouldn't happen because Social Security will send you to one of their doctors to get checked. Even if you were diagnosed by your own doctor, SS would send you to one of theirs. But being diagnosed by your's would be a start.

isiahthomas
12-27-2014, 01:15 PM
I just saw on tv a commercial for people that can get government money that are mentally or physically disabled. The company is called Citizens Helpline and they have a website. So I'm gonna check out the website and give them a call and see if they can help me.

Bonniegirl
12-27-2014, 02:53 PM
I'm sorry. I really wish things could be better for you.

In California anyone can get EBT (food stamps) if you are low income. And general relief money if you have no job, unemployment money or SSI coming in. Total is a little over 400 dollars (including food stamps), not much but it is something. I'm sure Maryland has that or something similar.

Steve_uk
12-27-2014, 03:16 PM
I'm disgusted by the system which doesn't give people a fair crack of the whip. It's no wonder a minority turn to crime,then people tut tut at the riots. It's just the same in my country,with the addition that many Eastern European young immigrants have travelled westwards,taken many jobs and driven the wages down. I enclose a report of just one worker in London here on what working conditions as a security guard are like:


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isiahthomas
12-27-2014, 03:29 PM
I agree Steve UK and the people that are in power in the government don't give a damn about unemployed and homeless people. They act as if these people are lazy and don't wanna work and they're trying to take advantage of the welfare system which is bullsh*t. I want a job rather than be on welfare and jobs don't give a damn about me wanting a job because they only care about hiring people that got experience for the jobs. It pisses me off that I email jobs letting them know I'm interested and they ignore me and don't respond. Bonniegirl62, I've tried going to social services for help and they won't help me get money unless I go to social security office and apply for disability and then I gotta get a copy of my medical records from my doctor. That's why I posted this topic because this is a serious issue that needs to be talked about and social services needs to change their stupid rules for helping unemployed men because that's not right that they gotta go through the runaround to get some money to survive.

TVFactFan
12-27-2014, 04:35 PM
I'm sorry. I really wish things could be better for you.

In California anyone can get EBT (food stamps) if you are low income. And general relief money if you have no job, unemployment money or SSI coming in. Total is a little over 400 dollars (including food stamps), not much but it is something. I'm sure Maryland has that or something similar.


last year when I had no income at all I was only able to get $189 a month in Food Stamps which was nothing lol

isiahthomas
12-27-2014, 05:16 PM
Wow that's terrible TVFactFan. Sorry to hear that. See that's what I'm talking about how social services is terrible towards helping unemployed men. I bet if you were a woman, you would've got more money than that for food stamps. How is a unemployed man supposed to survive off of $189 a month for food stamps? That's crazy. Social services system definitely needs to change towards how they treat unemployed men and they need to change right now or else America is gonna continue to have a lot of unemployed and homeless men struggling to survive. Then people wonder why some people kill themselves. They kill themselves because nobody gives a sh*t about helping them survive and they get tired of struggling for money. Unemployment and homelessness will never go away because the government and the president doesn't give a sh*t about these issues.


These 2 issues are the biggest problems in black neighborhoods and that's why there will always be a lot of crime in black neighborhoods. I guess Barack Obama can sleep good knowing he has a safe house to live and his family is gonna be taken care of for the rest of their life. He seems to be more concerned with helping people overseas and helping illegal immigrants that are in America get jobs and get legal citizenship instead of taking care of bigger problems like unemployment, homelessness, crime.

Bonniegirl
12-27-2014, 05:24 PM
last year when I had no income at all I was only able to get $189 a month in Food Stamps which was nothing lol


California is a little more generous , they give a full 200$ in food stamps!

Flying Dutchman
12-27-2014, 05:42 PM
I just saw on tv a commercial for people that can get government money that are mentally or physically disabled. The company is called Citizens Helpline and they have a website. So I'm gonna check out the website and give them a call and see if they can help me.

Be very careful of places like that. If they ask you to give them money up front for their services. most likely they are a SCAM! If this happens, go elsewhere.

BTW My neighbor gets the EBT food stamps and she isn't working. Living with her sister. She gets 179.00 a month. From what she said, here in central NY. If yoou want cash aid, you have to get down to the welfare office at about 6:30 am and stand in line for 2 hours before they open. Because after so many people are accepted in that line for public assistance, they send the rest home, telling them come back the next day. So she can't get cash aid because her sister isn't home to give her a ride. She works a graveyard shift as a nurse. and I can't because I go to work at 5:30am. There are no buses from here to there, until 9:00 am. So food stamps is all she gets. It is so sad the system has gotten so greedy.

TVFactFan
12-27-2014, 07:18 PM
California is a little more generous , they give a full 200$ in food stamps!


well I finally got hired I remember I had about $55 left in Food stamps and spend it all on fried seafood. I had fried fish, shrimp. fries, cheese cake and pepsi lol

TVFactFan
12-27-2014, 07:19 PM
Wow that's terrible TVFactFan. Sorry to hear that. See that's what I'm talking about how social services is terrible towards helping unemployed men. I bet if you were a woman, you would've got more money than that for food stamps. How is a unemployed man supposed to survive off of $189 a month for food stamps? That's crazy. Social services system definitely needs to change towards how they treat unemployed men and they need to change right now or else America is gonna continue to have a lot of unemployed and homeless men struggling to survive. Then people wonder why some people kill themselves. They kill themselves because nobody gives a sh*t about helping them survive and they get tired of struggling for money. Unemployment and homelessness will never go away because the government and the president doesn't give a sh*t about these issues.


These 2 issues are the biggest problems in black neighborhoods and that's why there will always be a lot of crime in black neighborhoods. I guess Barack Obama can sleep good knowing he has a safe house to live and his family is gonna be taken care of for the rest of their life. He seems to be more concerned with helping people overseas and helping illegal immigrants that are in America get jobs and get legal citizenship instead of taking care of bigger problems like unemployment, homelessness, crime.


That's why most have to ROB and STEAL to survive because they can't get a job due to their background and don't have a resume

isiahthomas
12-29-2014, 01:57 PM
You're right TVFactFan. Flying Dutchman, sorry to hear that about your neighbor and thanks for the advice. I just called health insurance company today that I had been approved for to see how long it was gonna take them to send my health insurance card and the lady told me it takes 6-8 weeks. When I get my card, I'm gonna see a psychiatrist to get tested and see why I'm afraid to apply for other jobs besides cleaning. The psychiatrist is gonna have to fill out some paperwork that social services gave me to see what's wrong with me and then they're gonna have to determine whether or not I can get temporary cash. It's possible I might be qualified for SSI money which is supplemental security income.

TVFactFan
12-29-2014, 03:36 PM
You're right TVFactFan. Flying Dutchman, sorry to hear that about your neighbor and thanks for the advice. I just called health insurance company today that I had been approved for to see how long it was gonna take them to send my health insurance card and the lady told me it takes 6-8 weeks. When I get my card, I'm gonna see a psychiatrist to get tested and see why I'm afraid to apply for other jobs besides cleaning. The psychiatrist is gonna have to fill out some paperwork that social services gave me to see what's wrong with me and then they're gonna have to determine whether or not I can get temporary cash. It's possible I might be qualified for SSI money which is supplemental security income.


Unless you have some serious health issues going on health insurance would be the last thing on my mind. I was unemployed for a year and my focus was on finding employment since I was still able to get my medicine from Rite Aid Wellness Program.

The only time I went to the doctor is when I was employed which of course was because I had no serious health issues

isiahthomas
12-29-2014, 05:27 PM
Well the reason I'm trying to get health insurance soon is so I can see a psychiatrist and find out why am I having a hard time getting a full time job. Like I said it's possible that I may have a mental problem which is preventing me from getting a full time job. My dad and my brother told me I need to apply for other jobs besides cleaning but I be trying to tell them that I'm not good at other jobs because if I was, I would apply for other jobs. I've tried other jobs before I did cleaning work and I wasn't able to keep those jobs for a long time. Some of the previous jobs I've had is working at factories, Target, Walmart, a couple of grocery stores, dollar store and I didn't keep any of those jobs that long. So I have a serious problem I need to find out about from a mental health professional because something is wrong with me not being able to do other jobs besides cleaning.


My childhood friend in Cleveland, I talked to his mom recently because I hadn't talked to him and his mom for a long time. She told me that he has the same problem I have which is he can't keep a job for a long time. She also told me he's been getting a VA check since he was in the military but she said it's not enough money for him to survive. She also told me he's in prison because he killed a woman in a drunk driving accident. He has to do 8 years and he's already did 2 years. That was sad to hear. I hope he's alright because being in that situation can make some people commit suicide and I'm sure he's already been picked on by some inmates.

TVFactFan
12-29-2014, 05:30 PM
Well the reason I'm trying to get health insurance soon is so I can see a psychiatrist and find out why am I having a hard time getting a full time job. Like I said it's possible that I may have a mental problem which is preventing me from getting a full time job. My dad and my brother told me I need to apply for other jobs besides cleaning but I be trying to tell them that I'm not good at other jobs because if I was, I would apply for other jobs. I've tried other jobs before I did cleaning work and I wasn't able to keep those jobs for a long time. Some of the previous jobs I've had is working at factories, Target, Walmart, a couple of grocery stores, dollar store and I didn't keep any of those jobs that long. So I have a serious problem I need to find out about from a mental health professional because something is wrong with me not being able to do other jobs besides cleaning.


My childhood friend in Cleveland, I talked to his mom recently because I hadn't talked to him and his mom for a long time. She told me that he has the same problem I have which is he can't keep a job for a long time. She also told me he's been getting a VA check since he was in the military but she said it's not enough money for him to survive. She also told me he's in prison because he killed a woman in a drunk driving accident. He has to do 8 years and he's already did 2 years. That was sad to hear. I hope he's alright because being in that situation can make some people commit suicide and I'm sure he's already been picked on by some inmates.


you need a JOB COUNSELOR not a psychiatrist LOL

isiahthomas
12-29-2014, 06:14 PM
I disagree. Are you even listening to what I'm saying? You sound just like my dad and brother. I have a serious problem which is preventing me from getting a full time job. There's nothing funny about what I'm saying. This is a serious problem. I don't believe that I can do other jobs besides cleaning, especially jobs that pay good. I don't have experience for most jobs that pay good. So that's why I don't apply for those jobs and I don't have money to go to school to get some job training because I'm not a good student. So this is a serious problem for me. If I was good at other jobs, I would apply for other jobs.

Steve_uk
12-29-2014, 06:36 PM
There are so many issues here. One of them is that the minimum wage has slipped over the decades and should by rights be $22 per hour. Didn't I read of a campaign to nominate Elizabeth Warren for President,someone who has had the nerve to raise the subject?http://youtu.be/ABM0_L_5vLw

TVFactFan
12-29-2014, 07:12 PM
I disagree. Are you even listening to what I'm saying? You sound just like my dad and brother. I have a serious problem which is preventing me from getting a full time job. There's nothing funny about what I'm saying. This is a serious problem. I don't believe that I can do other jobs besides cleaning, especially jobs that pay good. I don't have experience for most jobs that pay good. So that's why I don't apply for those jobs and I don't have money to go to school to get some job training because I'm not a good student. So this is a serious problem for me. If I was good at other jobs, I would apply for other jobs.


Job training is free in every state

isiahthomas
12-30-2014, 02:15 PM
How do you know that? Where did you read that?

Bonniegirl
12-30-2014, 03:07 PM
I hear what you are saying. I see you as a really good person who is really trying, but you have bad self esteem issues. It's a shame because you are nice and from how you post you are intelligent, and articulate . You are too hard on yourself. It's a shame your parents don't take it more seriously, you might have been able to get some help years ago. I think if your self esteem was better, it would help you out in all aspects of your life. For sure keep up with what you have to do to get the health insurance and get the evaluation and testing to see what is going on and hopefully things will get better for you.

isiahthomas
12-31-2014, 02:11 PM
Well I got some health insurance information yesterday from health care company and the health providers list I saw didn't have any doctors that were close to where I live. So I filled out the application and mailed it back to them today and I told them there aren't any doctors on the list that's close to where I live. I also got denied from social services for temporary cash because I didn't give them information about how much I pay for rent and utilities. I'm not paying any rent because I can't afford to and I don't pay utilities. The letter told me that I can reapply in January which I'm gonna do. Hopefully by that time i'll have a health provider that's close to where I live so I can go see a psychiatrist and have him or her fill out the application that social services gave me to give to the psychiatrist. Bonniegirl62, I did fill out another application for Obamacare health insurance link you posted for me. So I'm gonna wait and see if they approve me and maybe they might have some health providers that's close to where I live.

mets82
01-07-2015, 06:45 PM
isiah, how did you make out? Any news yet?

isiahthomas
01-08-2015, 02:47 PM
I had to mail my application back to the health insurance company that I got from social services because they didn't have any doctors in my area and I told them they need to get me a list of doctors that's close to where I live. The list of doctors they sent me are too far away from where I live. I just faxed my job application today for a job ad I saw on Craigslist that's hiring in my area. I hope I get the job. It's part time and it pays $10 a hour. It's Monday through Friday during the daytime. I also got a call today about a full time job at a apartment which is the same type of work I did before but I told the lady that the job is too far from where I live. I was glad she called though because the ad I saw on Craigslist was about 2 months ago.

TVFactFan
01-08-2015, 08:19 PM
I had to mail my application back to the health insurance company that I got from social services because they didn't have any doctors in my area and I told them they need to get me a list of doctors that's close to where I live. The list of doctors they sent me are too far away from where I live. I just faxed my job application today for a job ad I saw on Craigslist that's hiring in my area. I hope I get the job. It's part time and it pays $10 a hour. It's Monday through Friday during the daytime. I also got a call today about a full time job at a apartment which is the same type of work I did before but I told the lady that the job is too far from where I live. I was glad she called though because the ad I saw on Craigslist was about 2 months ago.


Yeah location is important because traveling costs may be too much

isiahthomas
01-13-2015, 02:40 PM
Well I was supposed to meet the manager of the company today at a church for the job that's paying $10 a hour. The church that I was gonna be working at is the church that my parents go to and my mom used to work there as a secretary. My mom was replaced because she had breast cancer and she was offered a part time job there but she didn't take it. My mom didn't like the woman who replaced her because my mom trained her and then the woman started acting funny towards her. So my mom didn't like that and my dad didn't like how she was treated. So they don't want me working there. I asked the manager did he only have part time work and he said yes. So then I asked him if he had another job available and he didn't respond. I think he's mad because I changed my mind that I don't want the job because when I talked to him yesterday, I told him I was gonna take the job but at first he didn't tell me the name of the church I was gonna be working. If he had told me the name of the church, I would've rejected the job instead of saying I was gonna meet him there.


So now I'm gonna keep looking for a job and I'm gonna mail my social services application for temporary cash again and then I'm gonna go see a psychiatrist and get tested and find out why am I afraid of applying for jobs that pay good. If the psychiatrist tells me that I could be qualified for disability money because I may not be able to work full time, then I'm gonna apply for that and see what happens. I did get a listing of doctors in the mail that I can go see from social services last week that's in my area. So I was glad about that. I didn't get a health insurance card though. So I'm gonna call the health insurance company tomorrow and find out what's up with that.

Bonniegirl
01-13-2015, 03:46 PM
Wow, sorry to hear about your Mother! Cancer is horrible. Hoping she is doing well now! Sorry to hear the job didn't come about, but keep looking something will turn up. And hoping all goes well with Social services.

isiahthomas
01-13-2015, 04:15 PM
Thanks. I hope I get another job soon because I need some extra money for car repairs. I'm not getting that much heat in my car and the part that I need to fix the heater costs $100 and I don't have it. I already borrowed money from my dad to get a radiator hose and now I gotta ask him for more money because I'm not trying to drive with no heat. It's supposed to snow tomorrow here early in the morning but it's gonna stop by the afternoon.

Bonniegirl
01-13-2015, 04:24 PM
Yeah you can't have the heater not working in cold weather like that!

isiahthomas
01-13-2015, 05:02 PM
My mom has been feeling a lot better since she had surgery for breast cancer. Thanks for asking about her. I noticed when I get a rejection letter from social services for temporary cash, the letter said that I didn't tell them how much I was paying for rent and utilities. I didn't see that on the application in the section for temporary cash but I did see it in the section for food stamps and I didn't want food stamps. When I was filling out the application today, I didn't see that in the section for temporary cash. So I'm gonna call the office tomorrow and tell them that if they wanna know how much I'm paying for rent and utilities, they need to put that on the application in the section for temporary cash. I did put on the application how much money I make at my part time job. So they should see that the money I make isn't enough and I should be able to qualify for temporary cash. I also put on the application that I'm not getting unemployment money since I was disqualified because I was fired from my previous job.

Bonniegirl
01-13-2015, 05:16 PM
Wow I sure hope things work out for you, you have been through a lot , your Mom having Cancer and all. Hoping things turn around and you have good things happen in your life. You deserve it!

isiahthomas
01-13-2015, 05:21 PM
Thanks. Things could be worse because I could be without a job and I could be homeless. So I'm very thankful that I got a part time job and I got a place to live. I'm glad my parents are living so I can have a place to live. I'm also thankful I haven't had a lot of problems with my car considering it's 21 years old because I need a car to find a job.

isiahthomas
01-30-2015, 04:12 PM
I'm starting a new full time job on Monday as a porter at a condos building. It pays $10 a hour and it's Monday through Friday. I called about the job today because I saw the ad on Craigslist. The company who placed the ad is the company I work for part time in the evening. I was glad the guy I talked to said I got the job. I gotta get the heat fixed in my car tomorrow. I'm gonna need some heat now since I'm starting a new job because it's cold early in the morning and I gotta be there at 7am.

isiahthomas
01-30-2015, 04:13 PM
A porter position is the same job I had at a apartment building which was the last full time job I had that I got laid off from in June of last year.

Bonniegirl
01-30-2015, 06:17 PM
That's really good I.T. 10 dollars an hour is good. Wishing all the best there for you!

TVFactFan
01-30-2015, 10:55 PM
The economy must be really turning around because every is finding jobs.


Congrats man

isiahthomas
01-31-2015, 11:14 AM
I wouldn't say the economy is turning around. I just got lucky and got the job because the part time job I have is with the same company that hired me for the full time job. I'm gonna look for another part time evening job because the evening job I have, I get off at 10 and that's too late to be getting off work especially since I'm gonna have to get up at 4:30am to beat traffic to go to Virginia from Maryland. I need a evening job that lets me get off at 8pm or 8:30 pm so i can get enough sleep. When i get off at 10, it takes me 30 minutes to get home and I only have time to get something to eat and then go to sleep. At least if I had another job and I got off at 8 or 8:30pm, I would be able to eat and watch tv before i go to sleep so i can be well rested. I'm gonna have to leave the house at 5:30am because traffic in the morning is bad. Now that it's the winter, it's gonna be very cold in the morning. I'll be so glad when the spring and summer comes.

TVFactFan
01-31-2015, 09:36 PM
I wouldn't say the economy is turning around. I just got lucky and got the job because the part time job I have is with the same company that hired me for the full time job. I'm gonna look for another part time evening job because the evening job I have, I get off at 10 and that's too late to be getting off work especially since I'm gonna have to get up at 4:30am to beat traffic to go to Virginia from Maryland. I need a evening job that lets me get off at 8pm or 8:30 pm so i can get enough sleep. When i get off at 10, it takes me 30 minutes to get home and I only have time to get something to eat and then go to sleep. At least if I had another job and I got off at 8 or 8:30pm, I would be able to eat and watch tv before i go to sleep so i can be well rested. I'm gonna have to leave the house at 5:30am because traffic in the morning is bad. Now that it's the winter, it's gonna be very cold in the morning. I'll be so glad when the spring and summer comes.


I made the economy statement based on all the people I know who started new jobs in 2014 and 2015

isiahthomas
02-01-2015, 11:49 AM
It's possible that i might not stay with my new job long because working at a condos building is much different than working at a apartment building. When i was driving yesterday to find the job, i noticed that the condo i'm gonna be working at looks like a townhouse and that's not a good thing because there isn't much work to do. When i worked at a apartment, i had a lot of work to do and i kept busy. I got a feeling that isn't gonna be the case with this new job. I'll find out tomorrow. So if i don't like my job and i quit on the first day, i won't feel bad because i'll still have my part time evening job and i can continue to look for a full time job at a apartment. I should've paid attention to the job ad before i called to say that i was interested but i got caught up in how much the job was paying and i saw that the position was the same type of work i did at my last full time job.

isiahthomas
02-02-2015, 01:19 PM
Well I told my boss today after he showed me what I would be doing that I'm gonna have to pass because he told me I would be outside most of the day. So he said that's not a problem and he said he was gonna call the office to let them know. He said the last guy that worked for him quit because he didn't like being outside all day especially during the winter. He told me that the company I work for is happy with my work at my evening part time job. So he said they're gonna try to find me another daytime job working inside a building.


When I told my dad this morning that I was gonna quit at the end of the job, he got upset talking about I should keep this job and look for another job until I find something better. I asked him how am I gonna look for a job when I don't get off until 3:30 and by the time I get to the library to use the internet to look for a job, I would only have a hour because I gotta be at my evening job by 5:30. So I would have to leave the library by 5pm. Plus if I would've kept the job and I had a job interview, I don't think my boss would be happy about me telling him I have to go to a job interview because he would know that I'm unhappy working for him.

TVFactFan
02-02-2015, 07:44 PM
Well I told my boss today after he showed me what I would be doing that I'm gonna have to pass because he told me I would be outside most of the day. So he said that's not a problem and he said he was gonna call the office to let them know. He said the last guy that worked for him quit because he didn't like being outside all day especially during the winter. He told me that the company I work for is happy with my work at my evening part time job. So he said they're gonna try to find me another daytime job working inside a building.


When I told my dad this morning that I was gonna quit at the end of the job, he got upset talking about I should keep this job and look for another job until I find something better. I asked him how am I gonna look for a job when I don't get off until 3:30 and by the time I get to the library to use the internet to look for a job, I would only have a hour because I gotta be at my evening job by 5:30. So I would have to leave the library by 5pm. Plus if I would've kept the job and I had a job interview, I don't think my boss would be happy about me telling him I have to go to a job interview because he would know that I'm unhappy working for him.


u don't tell your boss u r going on a job interview

isiahthomas
02-03-2015, 02:51 PM
Try telling my dad that. I talked to him this morning about that and he said I could've told my boss that I need to take a few days off work and lie and say that I'm sick so I can go to job interviews.

mets82
02-05-2015, 06:59 PM
Congrats on the new job. Lots of luck to you!!

isiahthomas
02-06-2015, 03:27 PM
Mets82, you didn't read my comments? I said that I quit the job the first day because I told my boss I don't wanna work outside all day. My dad got mad at me and threatened to evict me outta him and my mom's house if I don't have the money at the end of this month that he loaned me to pay for car repairs. I told him I would pay him when I get my income tax check. He said how do you know how much money you're getting? I told him I don't know but I'm gonna pay him back sooner than later. I told him I don't use people who loan me money. People that have loaned me money, I've always paid them back and sometimes it's taken me a long time but I've paid them back. I'm gonna see a psychiatrist soon because I called one yesterday and she told me the lady I need to talk to to schedule a appointment is gonna be there on Monday. I'm gonna get tested and I'm gonna see if I have a learning disability. Then I'm gonna give her some papers to fill out that I got from social services for me to get temporary cash until I can find a job. If I get diagnosed, then I may not be able to work anymore and i'll have to get government money like SSDI.

isiahthomas
06-04-2015, 03:12 PM
I just talked to a black woman who's a social worker at social services office and I talked to her about trying to get temporary cash. So she tells me I gotta go to the SSI office and apply for SSI disability. I told her I mailed a copy of my medical records to social services because the social worker I talked to said I have to show them that so I can get temporary cash. But now she tells me in order to get temporary cash, I gotta be disabled and go to the SSI office and apply for SSI disability. If the SSI office tells me I gotta be disabled to apply, i'm gonna be pissed. What the hell do I need to be disabled for to get temporary cash until I can find a job? Their rules are so messed up for helping poor unemployed people especially men. If I was a woman, I could get some money right away especially if I had kids. I've already gone to the SSI office and the guy I talked to said somebody was gonna call me for a interview and I never got a call. F*ck them and f*ck social services. I've been without a full time job for a year and I don't know when I'm gonna get one. I'm not getting unemployment money and i'm pissed about that because I gotta pay them back $505.



This is exactly why this world is always gonna have unemployed and poor people because the government that has the power to help these people get jobs don't wanna help them get jobs. Blacks gotta depend on whites to get jobs because we don't have money to own businesses so we won't have to work for whites.

mets82
06-04-2015, 03:29 PM
You know I knew somebody that had that same problem. When he explained to me, I came to understand that basically you have to work to be able to get enough credits to be elgilable for SS Disability. Well, if your disabled, than how can work? Face it, they dont want to give out any SS Disability, period.

isiahthomas
06-04-2015, 04:27 PM
I'm not disabled. The problem is I'm trying to get money from social services office and they won't give it to me unless I apply for SSI first. What I don't understand is why should I apply for SSI to get money from social services when I'm not disabled? That doesn't make sense. So now tomorrow I gotta go to the social security office and wait in a long line to apply for SSI and I gotta sit and wait for somebody to call my name so I can be interviewed. That pisses me off because social security office shouldn't have nothing to do with me trying to get government money from social services.

isiahthomas
06-24-2015, 03:42 PM
Well I finally had a interview with the social security office on Monday and the black woman I talked to said that my application has been denied since I'm not disabled and I don't have a health problem. So then I called the social services office and I was told by a black woman that I can't get government money because I have to be disabled or I have to have kids. I was pissed off she told me that because if I didn't have this part time job, what the hell am I supposed to do for money? She told me that I would only be able to get food stamps and health insurance. I did get health and dental insurance from them. So i was glad about that because i can't survive without that. Social services rules are so messed up and that's sad because the system is set up to help women and not men and that's not right. Unemployed men should be able to get government money and especially if they're not getting unemployment money. I'm not getting unemployment money because i was fired from my previous job.


This is exactly why there will always be unemployment, homelessness and crime in black neighborhoods because the government isn't doing anything to help poor blacks. White people wonder why black men sell drugs and do other criminal activity to get money because they can't get jobs. Most black men don't have cars to get to good paying jobs in the suburbs where whites live and they're being overlooked for Hispanic and African men for cheap labor by evil white men supervisors. This is why black men need to have their own businesses so they can work for themselves instead of having to depend on white men for jobs because it's obvious white men don't wanna hire them. The jobs in black neighborhoods are owned by foreigners who don't wanna hire blacks. Another thing I'm getting tired of is white men saying black men need to go to college to get a college degree so they can get a good job. Going to college isn't gonna guarantee them a good job because if going to college could help them get a good job, I wouldn't be seeing videos on Youtube of black men college graduates talking about they can't find a job. Unemployment rate for black men is always gonna be higher than white men.



I was lucky I got a daytime job today that's 30 hours a week and I start on Monday. It's not far from my part time evening job. So that's a good thing because the daytime job I'm gonna start is a couple of streets over from where my part time evening job is. The lady I talked to today at the office about the daytime job said that the job could eventually lead to full time. So I was glad to hear that. The lady I talked to at the office said the office building that I'm gonna be working at will probably later on be torn down and made into condos. She said if that happens, she could move me to another building full time. From now on I'm not working hard for employers anymore because they don't appreciate it. It pisses me off that the last full time job I had, I busted my ass for them for almost 9 years and I didn't wanna leave. I got laid off because management wants to save money and make their pockets fat so they can go on nice vacations, buy nice cars and nice houses while their employees gotta struggle to survive.

isiahthomas
06-26-2015, 04:04 PM
It really saddens me that ya'll have ignored what I'm saying because you aren't in my situation. So you could care less what happens to me and this is a serious issue that needs to be talked about and ya'll ignore it because it isn't happening to you. Poor and unemployed people should have a affect on you even if you aren't in that situation. I'm really surprised this topic has 5 pages of comments from people because I didn't think this issue would get that many comments because most of ya'll don't care about this. This is exactly why there will always be crime, unemployment and homelessness in the world because nothing is being done to fix these problems by the government. It's a joke to me whenever I hear the news say that the president has created a lot of jobs even though the unemployment rate for blacks continue to be high every year and never declines. If there's so many jobs being created, how come black men and I can't get them? I've emailed lots of jobs and didn't get any responses. I've gotten ignored which pisses me off but white men will say black men like me are lazy and don't wanna work which is a lie. I can't get government money from social services so I can survive until I can get a job and ya'll don't have nothing to say about that because that doesn't affect ya'll because ya'll got jobs. I guess ya'll think your jobs are safe when ya'll know most jobs aren't safe and I guess ya'll think you'll never lose your jobs.



I guess I shouldn't be surprised that ya'll don't care about this issue because most of ya'll on here are white and ya'll don't care about issues in black neighborhoods. Ya'll could care less about black men being unemployed and having to sell drugs because they can't get a job and ya'll could care less about black men killing each other. Ya'll can sleep good at night knowing that you live in a safe neighborhood and ya'll got a job to go to everyday. I bet some of ya'll are gonna say I'm a racist because of my comments LOL. I'm not a racist. I just have a problem with whites ignoring a serious issue like this because you think it doesn't affect you since you have a job, a nice car and you have a place to live in a nice neighborhood.

Bonniegirl
06-26-2015, 04:38 PM
Isiah , I'm sorry you feel that way. I know you are upset but in all fairness how can you say no body here cares? Look back at the last 5 pages. Myself and a lot of people posted and gave you encouragement! Your last post before this one was only two days ago. A lot of times people here don't respond right away. That's happened to me, I've posted and didn't get responses really quickly either sometimes.

Also in your last post you said you were able to get food stamps and health and dental , that is good. And you are starting a new job Monday that is 30 hours a week. That's not bad. It seemed things were looking up. As for not qualifying for medical disability, well I'm sorry about that!

And it isn't just black men, many white men where I live in California are having problems finding jobs too, along with women because out here lots of jobs require fluent Spanish speaking. Right now I'm not working myself and my unemployment has run out. Lucky for me I do have my husband, but he doesn't make all that much , and I don't want to just live off of him , we don't have small children at home for me to care for and a small home which doesn't take me all day to clean. I am taking the summer off doing the housewife thing, but come September and I will have to be working again. things are tight. And I'm a white woman , but I'm older and I know the jobs they will be wanting young girls before old me and I l know some Spanish from my husband, but not really fluently. And believe me, we don't have brand new cars and our neighborhood is not exactly the safest place in the world either.

So to sum it up, I'm very sorry for how you are feeling Isiah, but please don't think or say that us posters on S.O. don't care about you , because we do!

isiahthomas
06-26-2015, 04:49 PM
I'm glad you posted but I didn't say that I got food stamps. I did get health insurance from social services but I didn't want SSI money. I wanted government money from social services before I got this new job that I'm starting on Monday and I got denied because I'm not disabled and I don't have kids. I should be able to get that just because I don't have a job since I don't get unemployment money. Sorry to hear about your living situation. So you haven't been able to get a job because you're old? That sucks. How many more years is it for you to get a social security check? My mom said you can get one when you're 65. She told me I need to save some money since I'm gonna start a new job because it's gonna be a long time for me to get a social security check.

Bonniegirl
06-26-2015, 05:01 PM
Well I am 53, which is old but not that old. I think you can get early retirement at 62 or 63, but it won't be the full amount unless you stick it out to 65! So I have a while to go. I'm sure I will be able to get something, but my options will be limited. A lot of my previous work experience was front reception and they will want the younger girls over my old a**! And I did other office work, customer service, but now that everything is computerized they need less employees than in the old days. So I will just have to see, and pray I am able to get something when I do start looking!

Hey if they did offer you the food stamps, take em. You will be able to save a lot of money if you don't have to buy food. Plus you can contribute to your Mom and Dad with groceries!