But UM showcased the 2...women with the same name case lol why is it still allowed to show? I am not asking to talk about the actual case, just wondering why it can play and looks unedited.

When did it air? Was it the original version, unedited?

This morning on Lifetime. I don't think anything was edited. Looked the same to me. Thought they originally played the 911 call, but the detective on there said, "We can't release the 911 transcript" So I must be mistaken.

This morning on Lifetime. I don't think anything was edited. Looked the same to me. Thought they originally played the 911 call, but the detective on there said, "We can't release the 911 transcript" So I must be mistaken.
Yes, the tape wasn't played in the Stack version either. He said "we're not releasing the tape." Honestly, I find this to be one of the most chilling things on UM. Just the mere description of the tape sounds horrifying. :eek:

I find it strange this case can't be discussed on here, but respect that request if the LE department really feels that it could compromise things. I do wonder, however, if other forums such as Websleuths have been told the same thing. Maybe it's for the best. If you do a forum search to old threads for the case on here, it's a completely unpleasant batch of arguments.

I have seen this story on other forums, but Ii haven't checked recently. Yes, very chilling.

Yes. My understanding was that there was a poster on this forum who was involved in the case and he kept posting things about it, and the police apparently asked that it stop.

Since the police were involved in the production of the original segment, I don't think there was an issue in that regard.

I'm editing because I accidentally responded to the wrong post. My apologies.


You got that right! I just went through the archived thread and what a hot mess that was. It's always discouraging when the inappropriate actions of some make legitimate discussion impossible for the rest of us.

Yes, crazy indeed. Just read all that. Guess he was the doctor with the evil look lol

Just when I thought I forgot about that poster, this brings him right back. He'll be reappearing in 3...2...1...

Nope just little old me. According to the wiki it was aired in 2000, which probably means I missed it and would explain why I don't remember it.

Just when I thought I forgot about that poster, this brings him right back. He'll be reappearing in 3...2...1...
Sadly, this is all too likely. That poster seems to sense whenever he's being spoken of.

This case is on the Bizarre Murders set that unfortunately is only being sold for a high price now.

Can someone please tell me on PM what you all are talking about?

I happen to own the Bizarre Murders DVD and I have no idea what case you are referring to.

Thanks.

why can't you talk about this case? Can someone explain?

why can't you talk about this case? Can someone explain?

Law enforcement contacted one of the moderators and asked that we stop discussing the details of the case in a public forum, and the moderators asked us to oblige their request, so no one is allowed to talk about it.

Law enforcement contacted one of the moderators and asked that we stop discussing the details of the case in a public forum, and the moderators asked us to oblige their request, so no one is allowed to talk about it.

I didn't know that! I guess I just assumed that the thread in question got so out of control that the mods had to stop the discussions entirely.

Can someone please tell me on PM what you all are talking about?

I happen to own the Bizarre Murders DVD and I have no idea what case you are referring to.

Thanks.

The first post tells you all you need to know - the case of 2 women with the same name.

Can someone please tell me on PM what you all are talking about?

I happen to own the Bizarre Murders DVD and I have no idea what case you are referring to.

Thanks.

I agree! I haven't got the faintest idea what you're all talking about. This thread is an Unsolved Mystery in itself! LOL :lol:

Okay, everyone should be up to speed now. ;)

Law enforcement contacted one of the moderators and asked that we stop discussing the details of the case in a public forum, and the moderators asked us to oblige their request, so no one is allowed to talk about it.


can they really do that though??

can they really do that though??


Can they? Maybe not legally. But since most of us loved Unsolved Mysteries because we wanted justice or resolution for the cases, it would kind of such horse turds if we didn't respect a request of that matter from law enforcement. Also, this is a privately owned board, so they (the owner of the board) could shut us down.

I agree! I haven't got the faintest idea what you're all talking about. This thread is an Unsolved Mystery in itself! LOL :lol:
Yeah I'm lost too....I went through all the unsolved murders on the UM Wiki didn't find two women with the same name. I admit it's been a long time since I have seen Bizarre Murders set though....but I am drawing a complete blank. I will keep poking around the forums and see what I can find.

Isn't that a violation of our first amendment rights to freedom of speech? Don't we as Americans have the right to discuss anything we like without fear of retribution? If the case hasn't been solved by now it probably will never be, I mean c'mon it's been 14 years and they are no closer to solving it now than they were fourteen years ago! We should have the right to talk about whatever we want, and no one has the right to take that away.

Yeah I'm lost too....I went through all the unsolved murders on the UM Wiki didn't find two women with the same name. I admit it's been a long time since I have seen Bizarre Murders set though....but I am drawing a complete blank. I will keep poking around the forums and see what I can find.
You don't have to do that. It's the Mary Morris story. Just saying their name(s) is not discussing the case.

Isn't that a violation of our first amendment rights to freedom of speech? Don't we as Americans have the right to discuss anything we like without fear of retribution? If the case hasn't been solved by now it probably will never be, I mean c'mon it's been 14 years and they are no closer to solving it now than they were fourteen years ago! We should have the right to talk about whatever we want, and no one has the right to take that away.

We have the right to say and discuss whatever we want. That is true. But since this is an ongoing investigation and in other threads stuff about the case was posted by a person of interest, if I'm not mistaken. Out of respect for the victims, law enforcement, possibly the District Attorney who is handling this case, the families involved, and the very real possibility due to legalities no one will be brought to justice. I for one am not willing to poke the hornets nest or look for this old thread to see what was posted. Personally I haven't seen the episode, but have read the wiki on the case. Until investigators are satisfied that it's ok to talk about it openly, I'd rather leave well enough alone.

We have the right to say and discuss whatever we want. That is true. But since this is an ongoing investigation and in other threads stuff about the case was posted by a person of interest, if I'm not mistaken. Out of respect for the victims, law enforcement, possibly the District Attorney who is handling this case, the families involved, and the very real possibility due to legalities no one will be brought to justice. I for one am not willing to poke the hornets nest or look for this old thread to see what was posted. Personally I haven't seen the episode, but have read the wiki on the case. Until investigators are satisfied that it's ok to talk about it openly, I'd rather leave well enough alone.

+1

And in all fairness, unless someone here happens to be Houston PD or a Harris Co sheriff's deputy, none of us actually know how close law enforcement is to solving the case.

Isn't that a violation of our first amendment rights to freedom of speech? Don't we as Americans have the right to discuss anything we like without fear of retribution? If the case hasn't been solved by now it probably will never be, I mean c'mon it's been 14 years and they are no closer to solving it now than they were fourteen years ago! We should have the right to talk about whatever we want, and no one has the right to take that away.

I agree, but since this is a privately owned message board, and the owner prefers to comply with the police, we need to abide by the owner's request to not discuss.

However the officials can't restrict us discussing the case in email, phone conversations, at the kitchen table over a cup of coffee, on a park bench, in the break room at work, etc.

It's kind of like we have free speech to protest the government without repercussions, but we can't yell "Fire" in a crowded theater.

+1

And in all fairness, unless someone here happens to be Houston PD or a Harris Co sheriff's deputy, none of us actually know how close law enforcement is to solving the case.

given how cold the case is, and how lazy most police are, i say it never gets solved :(

The moderator asked us not to discuss the case, so we really shouldn't.

This is what's wrong with people today, instead of respecting what the police asked the moderator to relay to us as grown adults we disrespect them both by asking why we shouldn't be talking about it and then name the person in question. Couldn't it have it just been IMed? Come on people not all officers are bad people and sometimes there are reasons for them doing what they do.

So in other words, nothing is wrong. No one here did anything bad.

Isn't that a violation of our first amendment rights to freedom of speech? Don't we as Americans have the right to discuss anything we like without fear of retribution? If the case hasn't been solved by now it probably will never be, I mean c'mon it's been 14 years and they are no closer to solving it now than they were fourteen years ago! We should have the right to talk about whatever we want, and no one has the right to take that away.

BBM

Actually, someone does: the owner of this forum. He or she decided to honor law enforcement's request and restrict discussion of the case, on this forum.

Any of us can create our own forum and allow discussion of the case. Law enforcement could then make the same request to the owner of the new forum. But it is just that--a request.

This is not a First Amendment issue.

This is what's wrong with people today, instead of respecting what the police asked the moderator to relay to us as grown adults we disrespect them both by asking why we shouldn't be talking about it and then name the person in question. Couldn't it have it just been IMed? Come on people not all officers are bad people and sometimes there are reasons for them doing what they do.

Questioning is not disrespect. I don't think anyone has been disrespectful in this thread. Law enforcement did not request that no poster ever mention the victims' names again.

It could have been IM'ed. Just like every other discussion or comment on the forum could have been IM'ed or send via mass email. But that goes against the point of a discussion board.