Just saw that the "Nightmare Next Door" series on ID is featuring the Lisa Kimmell story tonight. Its airing at 10 eastern tonight as well as 1 am and 9 am on Saturday morning.

Watching it right now.

I happened to catch the part where they mentioned the case being profiled on a television program. It was an obvious reference to UM, although they didn't mention the show by name.

I saw it. Very surprised that the Kimmells didn't participate, unlike several other versions.

I know Sheila Kimmell wasn't happy with Dayle Hinman's overboard portrayal of her involvement in solving the case but otherwise I thought the Kimmell's were satisfied with the TV depictions of Lisa's case. Maybe something differed here. Or I suppose they weren't approached, although that is seemingly an underdog.

Nothing really new or remarkable. This program at the beginning did cover Lisa's background and relationship with her boyfriend in greater detail than other shows have allowed, apparently to set up the reason for the night drive.

It's always weird that the shows won't specify Arby's as the place where Lisa and Sheila worked. They say "fast food chain" or similar. This one tried to hint as closely as possible. The girl portraying Lisa was wearing a visor that was similar to an Arby's color.

I'm guessing maybe the shows don't mention the fast food chains due to legal purposes? But it's interesting to see how ID portrays cases covered on UM. They offer up more information on the victims' personal lives, which could be due to how long ago the case was, or the show has more time to explore the crime.

Yes I noticed that about the "fast food" place was never mentioned. When they did finally find her car they did show 2 Arby's visors that were found inside. I too noticed that Sheila nor anyone else from the family was interviewed. We haven't had the pleasure of Sheila posting on here in a long time. I hope she's doing well. There have been so many shows on the case, maybe its just too painful to keep reliving the horrible way Lisa was tortured and killed.

Yes I noticed that about the "fast food" place was never mentioned. When they did finally find her car they did show 2 Arby's visors that were found inside. I too noticed that Sheila nor anyone else from the family was interviewed. We haven't had the pleasure of Sheila posting on here in a long time. I hope she's doing well. There have been so many shows on the case, maybe its just too painful to keep reliving the horrible way Lisa was tortured and killed.

I actually made a very similar comment to my husband as we watched the telecast. I, for one, enjoyed the greater detail given to some aspects of her personal life. I've always known this, but it truly sounded like Lisa was an amazing girl who was taken far too soon.

Yeah that was definitely a very sad case.

from what um segment is your pic from? I think I remember but cant think of it. funny hair-dew. lol. I have kimmel segment on my dvd set. I actually passed thru Billings 3 weeks ago on my way out west.

Just saw that the "Nightmare Next Door" series on ID is featuring the Lisa Kimmell story tonight. Its airing at 10 eastern tonight as well as 1 am and 9 am on Saturday morning.

from what um segment is your pic from?

That is a composite sketch shown on the NBC original airing (not sure if it was ever shown on the Lifetime or Farina UM's) of the Joe and Mattie Harvey case. They said this person was thought to have been seen with or following Cheryl Holland. Not sure why they edited it out later, unless it was just to make room for the update.

I actually think he also looks a lot like Tony Alamo, lol.

I actually think he also looks a lot like Tony Alamo, lol.


Is he still selling bedazzled jackets? I kinda want one now.

Is he still selling bedazzled jackets? I kinda want one now.

Looks like we know what you're getting for Christmas this year. ;)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tony-Alamo-Designer-Denim-Jacket-Vintage-Hollywood-w-FULL-Rhinestones-Rare-Coat-/331176298323?pt=Vintage_Women_s_Clothing&hash=item4d1ba54753

Not at that price! Dang.

Finally watched this one. It was nice to get insight from the family friend about Lisa and her goals in life. I didn't know that she had two younger sisters or that information about her boyfriend. She seemed like a very nice young lady with an astounding amount of maturity for such a young age. The friend of the family said she seemed more like 30 than 18.

Which reminds me, shek, Mrs. Kimmell, hasn't posted in a while. I hope she and the whole family are doing well.

Which reminds me, shek, Mrs. Kimmell, hasn't posted in a while. I hope she and the whole family are doing well.

yes, come back shek!!!

Didn't happen to see the Nightmare Next Door case yet, but may have to check it out. I understand they've been airing several cases profiled on UM.

Shek, if you're reading this, I'm very sorry for your loss. I hope you don't mind me asking, but did you meet Robert Stack and Bill Kurtis? What were your thoughts on how Unsolved Mysteries and Cold Case Files handled Lisa's case? thanks!

yes, come back shek!!!

Didn't happen to see the Nightmare Next Door case yet, but may have to check it out. I understand they've been airing several cases profiled on UM.

Shek, if you're reading this, I'm very sorry for your loss. I hope you don't mind me asking, but did you meet Robert Stack and Bill Kurtis? What were your thoughts on how Unsolved Mysteries and Cold Case Files handled Lisa's case? thanks!
Hi everyone,
Thanx everyone for thinking of us. I haven't checked in for quite some time because I am just getting back on top of my game you might say. I had a stroke just a little over a year ago. I was totally paralized on my right side from head to toe and was rushed to the ER where I was a canidate to get one of those miracle shots that they can only give you in first 2 or 3 golden hours after a stroke hits. After a $39,000 shot and 30 minutes later I regained all of mobility but did suffer some permanent brain damage effecting my speech and other communtication skills - writing being among them. Thank God for spell and grammer check (too bad it doesn't work for my mouth) but even with that , it's still a challenge.

In lastest program program they did on Lisa's story, we declined to participate. Yes, they did a fairly good job overall but our thinking was how many ways can they retell the same story and add anything meaningful? To us it almost seems to be falling into the realms of tabloid fodder. And to answer your question Wiseguy, no, we never met Stack or Kurtis personally. Rarely, if ever do they ever inneract with interviewee's. Without trying to minimize their importance, essentially, their only function is that of being the program's narrator. The only program host we ever dealt personally was Paula Zahn, a super neat lady. All in all though, all the programs produced to this date did a good job with the big exception of the one with Dayle Hinman, the profiler gal, that was totally a sham and sent me over the top.

But here are some updates you might find interesting. Eaton had his US District hearing in Fedreral court last August challenging his death penality by reason of ineffective defense and mental illness, etc. They did not challenge his guilt in any way. It was a brutal 2 week trial in Cheyenne, WY and as hard as it was, we were glad we attended because we would have never believed what we heard if told to us by someone else. The short version is the Federal judge can only decide in one of two possible ways. He can rule that all the argruements he heard do not rise to the level to interene in his death sentence and let it stand as it is OR he may rule that Eaton's trial was sufficiently flawed and grant him a new "sentencing" hearing. After sitting through all of what we heard, saddly we expect that the judge will grant him a new hearing. We are still waiting for the judges's ruling which he said should be by April or May - so any day now or so we hope.

Enough for now and my best to all. ~ Shek

Hi everyone,
Thanx everyone for thinking of us. I haven't checked in for quite some time because I am just getting back on top of my game you might say. I had a stroke just a little over a year ago. I was totally paralized on my right side from head to toe and was rushed to the ER where I was a canidate to get one of those miracle shots that they can only give you in first 2 or 3 golden hours after a stroke hits. After a $39,000 shot and 30 minutes later I regained all of mobility but did suffer some permanent brain damage effecting my speech and other communtication skills - writing being among them. Thank God for spell and grammer check (too bad it doesn't work for my mouth) but even with that , it's still a challenge.

In lastest program program they did on Lisa's story, we declined to participate. Yes, they did a fairly good job overall but our thinking was how many ways can they retell the same story and add anything meaningful? To us it almost seems to be falling into the realms of tabloid fodder. And to answer your question Wiseguy, no, we never met Stack or Kurtis personally. Rarely, if ever do they ever inneract with interviewee's. Without trying to minimize their importance, essentially, their only function is that of being the program's narrator. The only program host we ever dealt personally was Paula Zahn, a super neat lady. All in all though, all the programs produced to this date did a good job with the big exception of the one with Dayle Hinman, the profiler gal, that was totally a sham and sent me over the top.

But here are some updates you might find interesting. Eaton had his US District hearing in Fedreral court last August challenging his death penality by reason of ineffective defense and mental illness, etc. They did not challenge his guilt in any way. It was a brutal 2 week trial in Cheyenne, WY and as hard as it was, we were glad we attended because we would have never believed what we heard if told to us by someone else. The short version is the Federal judge can only decide in one of two possible ways. He can rule that all the argruements he heard do not rise to the level to interene in his death sentence and let it stand as it is OR he may rule that Eaton's trial was sufficiently flawed and grant him a new "sentening" hearing. After sitting through all of what we heard, saddly we expect that the judge will grant him a new hearing. We are still waiting for the judges's ruling which he said should be by April or May - so any day now or so we hope.

Enough for now and my best to all. ~ Shek

Thanks for checking in, Shek!

I'm so sorry to hear about your medical issues. I hope your health continues to improve. I appreciate your thoughts on the Nightmare Next Door episode. For what it's worth, I thought the show did a good job of showing us a side of Lisa that Unsolved Mysteries didn't have time to delve into. I have not seen the Paula Zahn report, but I don't doubt it's awesome.

I've also been following Eaton in the news. I pray the judge issues his ruling quickly and that it leaves Eaton exactly where he belongs. Best to you and your family.

Hi everyone,
Thanx everyone for thinking of us. I haven't checked in for quite some time because I am just getting back on top of my game you might say. I had a stroke just a little over a year ago. I was totally paralized on my right side from head to toe and was rushed to the ER where I was a canidate to get one of those miracle shots that they can only give you in first 2 or 3 golden hours after a stroke hits. After a $39,000 shot and 30 minutes later I regained all of mobility but did suffer some permanent brain damage effecting my speech and other communtication skills - writing being among them. Thank God for spell and grammer check (too bad it doesn't work for my mouth) but even with that , it's still a challenge.

In lastest program program they did on Lisa's story, we declined to participate. Yes, they did a fairly good job overall but our thinking was how many ways can they retell the same story and add anything meaningful? To us it almost seems to be falling into the realms of tabloid fodder. And to answer your question Wiseguy, no, we never met Stack or Kurtis personally. Rarely, if ever do they ever inneract with interviewee's. Without trying to minimize their importance, essentially, their only function is that of being the program's narrator. The only program host we ever dealt personally was Paula Zahn, a super neat lady. All in all though, all the programs produced to this date did a good job with the big exception of the one with Dayle Hinman, the profiler gal, that was totally a sham and sent me over the top.

But here are some updates you might find interesting. Eaton had his US District hearing in Fedreral court last August challenging his death penality by reason of ineffective defense and mental illness, etc. They did not challenge his guilt in any way. It was a brutal 2 week trial in Cheyenne, WY and as hard as it was, we were glad we attended because we would have never believed what we heard if told to us by someone else. The short version is the Federal judge can only decide in one of two possible ways. He can rule that all the argruements he heard do not rise to the level to interene in his death sentence and let it stand as it is OR he may rule that Eaton's trial was sufficiently flawed and grant him a new "sentencing" hearing. After sitting through all of what we heard, saddly we expect that the judge will grant him a new hearing. We are still waiting for the judges's ruling which he said should be by April or May - so any day now or so we hope.

Enough for now and my best to all. ~ Shek


Hello Sheila its nice to hear from you and so sorry to hear of your medical problems. I hope you can make a full recovery! :)

I must admit I was surprised to see yet another show on Lisa. It seems like they would have exhausted looking at it from every angle by now and I'm sure as a parent they are never easy to watch. I did think they did a nice job talking about how Lisa was as a person which the other shows about her story haven't done much.

Sorry about your medical issues as well. I hope you continue to recover.