View Full Version : Will "The Expendables 3" flop?


irehtman
03-19-2014, 07:26 AM
I should predict to insist that Steven Seagal and Mark Wahlberg should be in this movie instead, rather than both Harrison ford and Kelsey Grammer!

But Steven is more of a lawman type of actor and Mark is still too young an actor, that's the problem.

MacLeaper
03-19-2014, 02:20 PM
I don't really care too much about these movies, but I will say I think Harrison Ford is a great fit for the lineup of action heroes in these movies. I mean- he's Han Solo and Indiana Jones! You gotta include him. But Steven Seagal would be a great choice too. I don't think Mark Wahlberg is really quite in that echelon yet though.

Torgo
03-19-2014, 03:44 PM
Harrison Ford definitely fits as he's done several action movies, even out side of the Star Wars/Indian Jones franchises.

Kelsey Grammer, still don't get that one.:crazy:

Antonio Banderas, Wesley Snipes, and Mel Gibson are all good additions.

Mace Dolex
03-19-2014, 03:45 PM
I rented the first one, didn't think too much of it, saw the second and was bored to death by it and this is coming from an action junkie watching Rambo, Commando, Missing In Action as a kid.

The problem is too much CGI for explosions and blood, I miss the old when a small dedicated group of SFX made it all practical and would film an explosion using three different cameras for all angles and it was amazing.

irehtman
03-20-2014, 07:08 PM
I think Steven Seagal and Mark Wahlberg would be included in Expendables 4, if there is one.

twilight.tale
03-21-2014, 01:38 AM
I should predict to insist that Steven Seagal and Mark Wahlberg should be in this movie instead, rather than both Harrison ford and Kelsey Grammer!

But Steven is more of a lawman type of actor and Mark is still too young an actor, that's the problem.

Steven Seagal is a good choice.

MacLeaper
03-25-2014, 01:40 PM
Kelsey Grammer, still don't get that one.
Well, Kelsey Grammer did play The Beast in "X-Men III: The Last Stand":) :cool:
But yeah- that's an interesting and kinda odd addition- hey, he can branch out if he wants to- but seeing as how it looks like Slyvester Stallone is specifically looking for classic action stars of the 1980s and '90s and such- and particularly ones who are legendary for action roles- I'm not sure that Grammer is the best fit- but maybe he plays a different role than mercenary.

irehtman
03-26-2014, 08:57 AM
Kelsey Grammer would not be correct fit because he is more of a comedian than a serious type of actor.

MacLeaper
03-26-2014, 03:05 PM
Yeah, but that's the thing- he's stereotyped as a comedic actor because he's played Dr. Frasier Crane for so long on "Cheers" and then "Frasier". That doesn't mean he can't play a serious role if he wants to- by definition, actors should be able to take on most any role- I think it's a good thing when an actor or actress can take on something that they haven't tried before or something they're not known for and stretch themselves some- as well as stretch audiences' ideas on what kind of roles they can play.

isiahthomas
03-29-2014, 10:44 AM
MacLeaper, you're right that actors should do different characters because that's what acting is about. Actors should never play the same characters all the time. I saw Kelsey Grammer in 15 Minutes with Robert Deniro and he was serious in that. That's a good movie. I'm surprised though that Kelsey is gonna be in The Expendables 3 and i'm also surprised Harrison Ford is gonna be in it. Harrison hasn't done a lot of action movies and i wouldn't consider Star Wars and Indiana Jones sequels action movies. I hope this is the last Expendables because i don't want them to get carried away with doing 5-6 sequels LOL. It's bad enough they keep making Fast and the Furious sequels LOL.

irehtman
03-29-2014, 11:52 AM
Not yet, MacLeaper...

I know it was wrong to exclude both Steven Seagal and Mark Wahlberg from Expendables 3 movie because they also appear in lots of violent Rated-R movies in their own times.

But they both could not get included in Expendables 3 movie because Steven is more of lawman type rather than a warrior type and Mark is probably to young to appear.

Expendables 3 is not the final one, there will be Expendables 4 and that's the only good time that they will include both Steven Seagal and Mark Wahlberg in it.

isiahthomas
03-29-2014, 12:09 PM
How do you know there's gonna be a Expendables 4?

irehtman
03-29-2014, 12:53 PM
How do you know there's gonna be a Expendables 4?

Try this link:

http://expendables.wikia.com/wiki/Steven_Seagal

isiahthomas
03-29-2014, 01:39 PM
Wow i can't believe there's gonna be a 4th one and they haven't released the 3rd one yet LOL. It would be nice if Steven Seagal was in the 4th one. That's nice that Sylvester Stallone tried to get Steven to be in the 3rd one.

irehtman
03-29-2014, 01:54 PM
They may have to include Mark Wahlberg in the fourth one and he will be more mature in that film by then.

isiahthomas
04-19-2014, 11:37 AM
I saw the previews for The Expendables 3 last weekend when i saw Draft Day with Kevin Costner and i liked what i saw. I think it's coming out in August. I wonder if Mel Gibson is gonna be a bad guy in it. Good to see Mel still doing movies. He hasn't done a movie that has come to theatres in a long time. He's aged well. I love Lethal Weapon 1,2,4. I'm gonna buy Lethal Weapon 1 and 2 on dvd from Amazon.com next month. I got them on vhs and i wanna get rid of my vhs copies.

irehtman
04-20-2014, 03:30 PM
Did you hate LW3, isiahthomas?

isiahthomas
04-21-2014, 01:11 PM
No i didn't hate Lethal Weapon 3. It's good but i don't like it as much as part 1,2,4.

MacLeaper
04-21-2014, 04:50 PM
Harrison hasn't done a lot of action movies and i wouldn't consider Star Wars and Indiana Jones sequels action movies.

Harrison Ford has done some good action movies though- I would think The Fugitive could count. Of course, I would call the Star Wars movies scifi and he's done a number of those movies- Blade Runner and Ender's Game being some of the others he's known for. The Indiana Jones movies stray into a bit of fantasy and such, but I would generally call them action/adventure movies.
But yeah- I think Ford in The Expendables 3 is a great fit.:) :cool: As for the others, like Grammer, you never know- he may surprise you.

Not yet, MacLeaper...

I know it was wrong to exclude both Steven Seagal and Mark Wahlberg from Expendables 3 movie because they also appear in lots of violent Rated-R movies in their own times.

But they both could not get included in Expendables 3 movie because Steven is more of lawman type rather than a warrior type and Mark is probably to young to appear.

Expendables 3 is not the final one, there will be Expendables 4 and that's the only good time that they will include both Steven Seagal and Mark Wahlberg in it.

Not yet, what? It's not time to include Steven Seagal and Mark Wahlberg in The Expendables movies? Yes, they've appeared in some violent R-rated movies- so have most, if not all of the rest of the cast. In fact, I think The Expendables movies themselves would count as violent R-rated movies- I'm not sure I follow your point on that.

irehtman
04-22-2014, 08:09 AM
MacLeaper, you don't understand.

Steven Seagal and Mark Wahlberg should have appeared in Expendables 3, but Steven is a lawman type of actor and Mark is too young.

Other choice actors would appear for the fourth film would be Tom Cruise and Sam O'Neill.

I don't understand why is there going to be a female Expendable type of film called "Expendabelles" coming in the future for no reason at all?

MacLeaper
04-22-2014, 04:07 PM
MacLeaper, you don't understand.

Steven Seagal and Mark Wahlberg should have appeared in Expendables 3, but Steven is a lawman type of actor and Mark is too young.

Other choice actors would appear for the fourth film would be Tom Cruise and Sam O'Neill.

I don't understand why is there going to be a female Expendable type of film called "Expendabelles" coming in the future for no reason at all?

You're right- I don't understand.:lol:
But from what I gather, you seem to be pretty adamant that Steven Seagal and Mark Wahlberg should not be cast in "The Expendables 3". You can rest assured; from what I can tell, I do not see them listed in the cast list on IMDB.com- so I guess they won't be in that movie. Maybe they'll make into the cast for the rumored 4th. movie though.
I don't see if I could see Sam O'Neill in such a movie- maybe. I would probably agree with Tom Cruise except that I don't think he's quite in the same category that Stallone is going for with these movies. (i.e. I get the impression Stallone is trying to offer work to action heroes that are older now and perhaps not getting the same roles as much as they used to in older days. I think Cruise is still in the game as a current [and slightly younger] action hero movie star.) But Tom Cruise is one of my favorite actors- he does a great job. He would be a cool addition to the cast.

MacLeaper
04-22-2014, 04:08 PM
I don't understand why is there going to be a female Expendable type of film called "Expendabelles" coming in the future for no reason at all?

Do you have a source for this?

MacLeaper
04-22-2014, 04:16 PM
Never mind- I found one. Wow- lol.
http://www.deadline.com/2013/10/avi-lerner-saves-his-expendabelles-news-for-bulgaria/

irehtman
04-22-2014, 04:18 PM
Well Tom Cruise is doing lots of similar action like Harrison Ford and Sam O'Neill acts like Harrison ford, IMO. If Harrison Ford gets added in this third film, then both Tom Cruise and Sam O'Neill can join in with both Steven Seagal and Mark Wahlberg for the fourth film.

MacLeaper
04-22-2014, 04:29 PM
Sounds good- maybe it'll happen.:) :cool: