So, if you're not familiar with the show, here is some good info on it:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1705096/

Anyways, I was thinking about turning this into a poll, but there are so many 'bad' spouses that have been profiled on UM that a poll would have been impossible. They are all very different (and bad) in their degrees of what they actually did. How can you compare what say, Judy Grozinger did (allegedly) to her husband to say what Melvine Aprile did to hers?

So, I thought this would be a great place to list all the bad husbands and wives out their in UM. :wave:

I'll start it off:

- Judy Grozinger (allegedly) arranged her husband's murder for insurance money and to live life as a lesbian.

- Melvine Aprille stole 2 million dollars from her husband while he was seriously ill (also while she was caring for him) went on to kidnap their two children.

Elizabeth Ortiz - tried to poison her husband to death, then kidnapped their baby and fled the country for years.

Dennis Depue - beat his wife in front of their children, then under the guise of taking her to the hospital for treatment, shoots her to death and dumps her body.

Leonard Rizzo - likely murdered his wife after abusing her, chopping her body into pieces and discarding it in his own backyard, then never getting caught for it because the case got screwed up with misidentification of the remains.

Annette burnside no doubt. Watching that segment is so sad.

Paul Pollis, for killing his wife, stuffing her body in a storage shed, and getting his parents to help cover up.

Stephen Marfeo: Had his wife followed by two different PIs before she vanished, was not nearly so concerned when she vanished, and later shot and killed an ex-girlfriend, wounded her boyfriend, and then took his own life. Wow. Let's not forget how guilty he looks in terms of Doreen's disappearance, either.


Mark Nichols: More than likely guilty of abusing and killing his wife :mad:


James Vess: Would beat his wife for hiding his liquor, killed her on her birthday, and caused his nine children to be torn apart

Laura Law: Killed her husband over a gambling dispute and then hid his body in a shed in the backyard

Paul Pollis, for killing his wife, stuffing her body in a storage shed, and getting his parents to help cover up.

Allegedly. :bash:

Forgot the mother of all bad wives:

Marie Hilley, poisoned her husband for years until he died, spent all his life insurance money, started to poison her son and daughter for the same reason. Flees up north to marry a man under a secret identity, fakes her death, and returns to her husband as her imaginary twin sister.

Robert Fisher: murdered his whole family and fled.

Jeffrey MacDonald: nuff said.

Hazel Head: murdered her boyfriend Charles Barker for his money.

William Bradford bishop. I bet his wife thought she knew him.

Steve Page, Kathy Page's husband. I definitely think he was responsible for her death.

Joe Maloney - poisoned his wife with arsenic and fled to Ireland, which at the time had no extradition treaty with the United States.

Dave Davis - poisoned his wife with succinylcholine and attempted to make it look like a horseback-riding accident in order to gain life insurance payouts--police theorized that he had planned to do so before the wedding. He disappeared for nearly ten years until finally being found in American Samoa.

Jim Harrison - Of "Susan, you're being bad again" fame. :mad:

Astarte Davis - Insurance fraudster, document forger, and probable murderer. After her husband Jim Rice disappeared, she sold off his belongings at a garage sale. Later escaped from prison while serving a 15-year sentence for other crimes and was caught and returned to prison in 2002. She has never been charged in connection with Jim Rice's disappearance.

Betty Field - Kidnaps her son Christophe from husband Bill Day and flees to France, who sadly learns that he died from leukemia.

David Viera - Abused his wife Alice for years and then murdered her after she left him.

James Donald King - Murdered his two wives. This was the guy that was released on parole after serving three years.

Bo Tanner - not even his real name - bigamist, arsonist, con man, and his wife said she'd take him back!!!!??? By the time he was found, the statute of limitations ran out on all his crimes.

Philip Breen - serial embezzler, went on the run, leaving his unsuspecting wife behind. She lost just about everything she owned because of his crimes, and I think he's never been located.

Paul Stamper - abusive, controlling, violent weirdo. When his wife was finally getting away from him, he hired a hit man to kill her. In a case of mistaken identity, the hit man stabbed her friend instead. Paul decided to do it himself the next time, and opened fire on his wife and her boyfriend while they were in a car, then kidnapped his wife. He escaped from prison, but was eventually caught.

Chad Noe - marrying (and divorcing) him meant experiencing the wrath of Chad and his entire psychotic family for poor Wendy Camp. Three innocent victims, including a child, and no one has been to jail when the entire planet knows who is responsible.

EAR - we don't know if he was/is married, but if he was/is, being responsible for at least 50 horrifying rapes and 10 brutal murders....that goes right up there with "Husband of the Year".

Joe Owens, the guy that gunned down his wife and daughters (although they may have been step-daughters?). That's right up there with Brad Bishop behavior.

There are countless more. I forget the people's name in the segment, but there was also that African American lady who had a crazy husband, and one night when she came home he was at the house (despite the restraining order she had). She tried to escape by running over the to the neighbours, but he gunned her and the neighbours down. He went on the run but was eventually caught, I just forget his name now.

Joe Owens, the guy that gunned down his wife and daughters (although they may have been step-daughters?). That's right up there with Brad Bishop behavior.

Are you thinking of the one where homeboy's poor landlord had to run through a glass door to escape his knife-wielding craziness? That sounds like Joe Weldon Smith, who definitely does fit this thread. Joe Owens is a PERFECT addition as well, however. The guy murders his poor wife, buries her in his backyard under the guise of a lavish compost box project, lies to everyone about his wife's absence for months claiming she's buying "antique nickelodeons" with her 94-year old mother in the Midwest (among other things), and then goes up on a mountain to kill himself. Yeech.

Are you thinking of the one where homeboy's poor landlord had to run through a glass door to escape his knife-wielding craziness? That sounds like Joe Weldon Smith, who definitely does fit this thread. Joe Owens is a PERFECT addition as well, however. The guy murders his poor wife, buries her in his backyard under the guise of a lavish compost box project, lies to everyone about his wife's absence for months claiming she's buying "antique nickelodeons" with her 94-year old mother in the Midwest (among other things), and then goes up on a mountain to kill himself. Yeech.

Ah, MegtheEgg, you are such an UM guru!!!! Yes, I was definitely thinking of Joe Smith!!!!! I was thinking in my head about both cases (Owen and Smith) and got typing, and totally forgot who I was typing about LOL.

Speaking of UM "Joe's", another winner husband was Joe Sheppard. When he got caught he was living about an hour away from me in Canada (in some low-income dive in London, Ontario) and he had a wife and two kids. I wonder if he came clean to his wife or if it was a total shock when the cops showed up and hauled him back to the USA and threw him in jail? Oh well, I guess the only thing about being married to someone like that is them getting taken away to jail in another country is probably easier than getting a divorce :lol:

Speaking of UM "Joe's", another winner husband was Joe Sheppard. When he got caught he was living about an hour away from me in Canada (in some low-income dive in London, Ontario) and he had a wife and two kids. I wonder if he came clean to his wife or if it was a total shock when the cops showed up and hauled him back to the USA and threw him in jail? Oh well, I guess the only thing about being married to someone like that is them getting taken away to jail in another country is probably easier than getting a divorce :lol:

Ugh, Joe Shepherd. He committed his crimes a county over from where I was born and raised. I always wonder about those people who get caught many years later and have spouses and children. I can't imagine what it would be like to have that bomb dropped on you--presuming you had no knowledge of your husband/wife's past.

Betty Field - Kidnaps her son Christophe from husband Bill Day and flees to France, who sadly learns that he died from leukemia.

David Viera - Abused his wife Alice for years and then murdered her after she left him.

James Donald King - Murdered his two wives. This was the guy that was released on parole after serving three years.

The Best UM line the goes with this thread:

"My advice is don't marry him if you want to live"

- detective commenting on James Donald King

There are countless more. I forget the people's name in the segment, but there was also that African American lady who had a crazy husband, and one night when she came home he was at the house (despite the restraining order she had). She tried to escape by running over the to the neighbours, but he gunned her and the neighbours down. He went on the run but was eventually caught, I just forget his name now.

That would be Larry George.

What about Larry Gibson?

Both Larry Gs are definitely appropriate selections.

Why this sticks with me I don't know, but when a certain video site had the Larry George segment up, someone commented on the part with the update with something to the effect of "lol Larry George gettin caught in his draws". :lol:

I'm not sure if the guy is actually guilty of attempting to murder his wife, but moving in with his mistress while his wife recovered in the hospital definitely puts Thomas Drake near the top of the all-time worst UM husbands list.

I'm not sure if the guy is actually guilty of attempting to murder his wife, but moving in with his mistress while his wife recovered in the hospital definitely puts Thomas Drake near the top of the all-time worst UM husbands list.

I think this could apply to Nancy Drake as well, for her comment about whether or not Thomas attacked her he still deserved to be in prison.

I think this could apply to Nancy Drake as well, for her comment about whether or not Thomas attacked her he still deserved to be in prison.

Agreed.


DanCart brought up Jack Quinn in another thread. I remember his wife would get in his car to drive it, fold down the sun visor overhead, and wads of stolen cash would fall out into her lap. On top of him eventually scooting out of town with over a million dollars of his own company's money, he was also allegedly having an affair at the time of his disappearance.

There was the man whose wife (names escape me) had a mental breakdown and went on the run with their daughter and she changed the name to something unusual.

And the guy (another name I can't remember) that named his son DuBenion after his favorite football player but he went by Joey. He was abusive and also ended up kidnapping him but he was caught and Joey was returned to his mom, who remarried and had another child. I want to say the last name was Ross or Moss.

There was the man whose wife (names escape me) had a mental breakdown and went on the run with their daughter and she changed the name to something unusual.

Good one! That was Melody Martin and her daughter Paloma Gibson, whom RS said she began calling "Jubilee", for whatever reason.

And the guy (another name I can't remember) that named his son DuBenion after his favorite football player but he went by Joey. He was abusive and also ended up kidnapping him but he was caught and Joey was returned to his mom, who remarried and had another child. I want to say the last name was Ross or Moss.

It was Moss. Joey's father's name was Jerry.

And the guy (another name I can't remember) that named his son DuBenion after his favorite football player but he went by Joey. He was abusive and also ended up kidnapping him but he was caught and Joey was returned to his mom, who remarried and had another child. I want to say the last name was Ross or Moss.
Yes, that was the case of Joey Moss. His parents were never actually married, but still lived together and boy did I sympathize with the mother. If even half the segment is true, the father was a real tool, but thankfully unlike most UM fugitives, not violent. He berated his girlfriend and would do things like destroy the kitchen she worked so hard to remodel by writing in crayon that she needed to buy more stuff, rather than being an adult and using a darn post-it note. He eventually just stopped speaking to her and she moved out. He then proceeded to follow her and her new husband out of state and refused to compromise on custody no matter how hard they tried, ultimately stealing Joey. I was always happy that not only did Joey get found and returned to his mom, but his stepfather seemed like a very good man.

Forgot the mother of all bad wives:

Marie Hilley, poisoned her husband for years until he died, spent all his life insurance money, started to poison her son and daughter for the same reason. Flees up north to marry a man under a secret identity, fakes her death, and returns to her husband as her imaginary twin sister.
It's hard to believe, but she was even worse in real life than she was portrayed in the segment. She also poisoned her own mother who was dying of cancer, and while living with her son and his wife, poisoned the wife and caused her to have a miscarriage. Here's an extensive article on the case:
http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/women/hilley//1.html

And besides being a murderer and poisoner, she was also a thief and an arsonist.

For the life of me I cant remember his name, but what about the guy who worked for a bank and robbed his own bank? He boarded a flight with two duffle bags full of money and started a new life. He left his wife a long note at home explaining he robbed the bank he worked for and why he did? I think he was captured like 5 years later and was remarried and living off the money he stole. I just cant remember his name

For the life of me I cant remember his name, but what about the guy who worked for a bank and robbed his own bank? He boarded a flight with two duffle bags full of money and started a new life. He left his wife a long note at home explaining he robbed the bank he worked for and why he did? I think he was captured like 5 years later and was remarried and living off the money he stole. I just cant remember his name

Steve Hadley. I always remembered that one because part of the letter was narrated on the segment. Something about not having much practice "at being a man lately" or something.

Who was the crazy old guy who murdered his wife and buried her under a concrete patio thing he built in the front yard?

IIRC, he just wanted to get rid of her and collect some insurance money.

His wife was a well-liked piano tutor and when her customers began calling to ask where she was, he got really weird and kept changing his story, flipped out when they asked for refunds for unperformed lessons, etc.

Who was the crazy old guy who murdered his wife and buried her under a concrete patio thing he built in the front yard?

IIRC, he just wanted to get rid of her and collect some insurance money.

His wife was a well-liked piano tutor and when her customers began calling to ask where she was, he got really weird and kept changing his story, flipped out when they asked for refunds for unperformed lessons, etc.

That sounds like Joe Owens:

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Joe_Owens

Oh yeah. I'd recognize that goofy blue suit and bowtie anywhere.

Stephen Marfeo: Had his wife followed by two different PIs before she vanished, was not nearly so concerned when she vanished, and later shot and killed an ex-girlfriend, wounded her boyfriend, and then took his own life. Wow. Let's not forget how guilty he looks in terms of Doreen's disappearance, either.


Mark Nichols: More than likely guilty of abusing and killing his wife :mad:


James Vess: Would beat his wife for hiding his liquor, killed her on her birthday, and caused his nine children to be torn apart

Laura Law: Killed her husband over a gambling dispute and then hid his body in a shed in the backyard

Laura Law wasn't married, just in a relationship.

Laura Law wasn't married, just in a relationship.
Oops! You're right; I think they were in a relationship for many years, but they had never actually tied the knot. That can go in a ''Who the Bleep did I move in with?'' thread. :D

Oops! You're right; I think they were in a relationship for many years, but they had never actually tied the knot. That can go in a ''Who the Bleep did I move in with?'' thread. :D

LOL "Who The BLEEP Did I Just Sign A Lease With?!"