View Full Version : Teacher fails steve for not being able to swim


Neutronman67
12-18-2013, 09:44 AM
In the Season 6 episode Sink or Swim the swimming teacher guy tells Steve Urkel if he cant learn to swim he is going to fail and not graduate high school shouden't that be illegal its not Urkels fault if he cant swim.

MacLeaper
12-18-2013, 10:16 AM
It's not illegal, nor should it be. It's part of the requirements for Steve's PE class. And PE is a mandatory class in high school for graduation requirements. If you can't pass the class, you can't graduate- that should be motivation enough to get through it.

Neutronman67
12-22-2013, 01:39 PM
But steve was like an adult he was atleast 17-18 years old thats something you learn when your 8 years old, the Gym teacher should have took his time with Steve to teach him how to swim, it's funny how steve could not learn how to swim until laura jumped into the pool lol.

rpm31
12-22-2013, 04:40 PM
Yeah, it seems like almost anything Steve is inspired to do, it is because of Laura. That kind of parallels a Futurama episode though, in which a character said, "All of civilization is built on the attempt to impress the opposite sex." LOL

Neutronman67
12-24-2013, 11:12 AM
Steve might have been able to swim when he was a little kid but maybe it was blocked out of his mind when he became addicted to science inventions when he was a teenager, the only reason he drove a car was because to try get win over laura to be his girlfriend lol.

rpm31
12-24-2013, 11:28 AM
I guess you could say, in a weird way, Laura DID deserve Steve's love if she inspired him to bring out the best in himself.

Neutronman67
12-25-2013, 09:20 PM
Yeah we find out that Laura had feelings for Steve Urkel if she was willing to drown in a huge pool to get Steve to save her life.

rpm31
12-25-2013, 09:34 PM
I didn't say she did those things because she loved Steve in a romantic sense, but she was still a good friend to him at the time, and friends help each other out like that.

One has to wonder though, what if Myra tried to drown herself in the huge pool, would Steve have been inspired to learn how to swim to save her life? I would say he would, but you never know...

Furienna
12-26-2013, 10:04 PM
I have to agree with with Neutronman about this one. Steve was like the smartest guy in the school, and he wouldn't be able to graduate unless he learned how to swim! What kind of bull**** is that? I never learned how to swim because I have two different disorders, which will make things like that near impossible for me, and I really find that episode offensive. Because everybody can't learn how to swim, despite what some ignorant people seem to think, and your gym class grade shouldn't be that important. Nothing you learn there will be important once you get to College anyway (unless you get there on a sports scholarship and join some team). And really, what about the handicapped people, who have to sit in a wheel chair? Aren't they allowed to go to College either, just because they can't swim? Nah, I really hate that episode with every fibre of my being. It was simply offensive and ignorant beyond belief. And yeah, don't get me started on how Steve suddenly learned to swim, when he thought Laura was drowning! What a complete piece of crap that episode was... :rolleyes:

Neutronman67
12-31-2013, 11:50 AM
Yeah Steve would save Myra Monhouse his creepy girlfriend from drowning he would not let someone lose their life if he was able to save them, remember the episode The Unlikely Match the dark skinned boy from moesha guest starred in this episode as a bully that was a bad guy that put his head in the boys bathroom everyday because steve was a nerd and unpopular in high school thats wrong poor kid could not help the way he dressed lol he saved his life by finding a cure to save his life, he also saved Carl Winslow from death in season 5 by doing some kind of CPR on him, Steve Urkel had a good heart he was not like others he would help people weather they like him or hate him rather it ment risking his own life to save other lives he proves this in the last episode Lost in Space part 2 where he risked his life to save billions of people's lives on earth.

Neutronman67
12-31-2013, 11:57 AM
Yeah i agree with you Furienna the Gym teacher cant fail a student because they cant do something they have no control over its wrong and plus its not up to him he's just a tacher its up to the principal if he wants Steve to be held back ,Furienna is your Disorder really bad ???

Furienna
12-31-2013, 12:28 PM
Well, I haven't even tried to learn how to swim since I was twelve years old. But I get along fine in life without it, and I even quit going to regular Gym class in 6th grade and never looked back. I guess the American system says you have to pass every subject to graduate, but a lot of people would have problems with Gym class and should meet some clemency. And yeah, I also hate how the teacher did nothing to help Steve. Thanks goodness Carl was able and willing to do it instead.

Lorimar Television
01-02-2014, 02:06 AM
I think if Steve had a medical condition they would have excused him from gym, but he didn't have any that we know of.

Furienna
01-02-2014, 04:06 AM
Steve probably had Asperger's like me, even if they never said so. ;) But really, he had probably never skipped Gym class and always tried to do his best. That should be enough for him to get a passing grade, even if he hadn't been able to learn how to swim. He even got a passing grade in Home Economics, despite destroying the class room, since he still had done his best. Isn't it also weird that if that was so damn important to know how to swim to pass Gym class, why had Steve passed Gym class every year until then? And why did the teacher not offer him any help to pass? Neutroman67 also has a point that Steve could have taken that to the princinpal.

Neutronman67
01-04-2014, 11:42 AM
Yeah and the Gym coach is not a king he cant fail students if they have a disability to learn faster than others and the Gym coach knew Steve Urkel had enough problems in his life he was also rude by humiliating Steve Urkel by saying out loud you cant swim i feel like the guy said that on purpose to make Steve feel bad now he has to be made fun of by his peer yikes, and i also dont like the way he put his hands on Steve in the pool thats awkward since Steve is a grown man lol, Steve Urkel never struck me as if he had Asperger's he seemed outgoing and confident he's the only guy that brave enough not to give up after getting rejected but then again he did not have many friends i dont count Eddie, i do think that Waldo and Judy had Asperger's they were always so quiet, Waldo might of had anxiety if you watch him in episodes he makes useless one liners and seems to be left out when Eddie Steve and Weasel are coming up with crazy ideas lol.

Furienna it must be hard dealing with that Asperger's the kid that played Dewey from Malcolm in the Middle has Asperger's i wondered why he barely spoke on the show lol, Furienna since you have Asperger's are you a quiet person ???

Furienna
01-04-2014, 12:30 PM
I'm afraid you only have a shallow understanding of what Asperger's is. Aspies don't have to be quiet or have a low self-esteem. And to me, Steve comes across as a rather obvious case. Most nerds will easily qualify anyway, and he is no exception. Steve was so smart intellectually, but maybe not so much socially, and he sure was considered weird. That sounds very aspie-like to me. And nope, we usually don't make good athletes either. :lol: But then again, I guess the writers of the show hardly had any intention to make Steve an aspie. They just followed several nerd tropes, and since many nerds have Asperger's, it just came out that way.

Waldo was the standard sitcom idiot, and I can't say right now if that too can be based on some disorder. He was clearly no aspie though. And nah, I hardly think that Judy was one either.

Neutronman67
01-06-2014, 12:26 PM
I know what Asperger's is its people who dont seem to fit in with society they are considered eccentric like Michael Jackson they have some form of Anti-Social personality their is nothing good with having that Syndrome, Waldo even tho he was friends with Eddie,Weasel and Steve they never respect anything he said and Waldo was smart he said some smart things in certain episodes in the series i think he was afraid to speak his mind and yeah Waldo was Quiet he should have forced himself into the conversations instead of being shy and standing in the background, Furienna my friend Judy would be the classic case of Asperger's she was the black sheep of the family she hardly ever spoke on Family Matters she was Anti-Social, their was nothing wrong with Steve Urkel he was just the awkward teenager who was too smart to hang around his peers at school he spent too much time studying and doing wacky inventions to have time for a social, their was only 3 things wrong with a man like Steve Urkel the way he dressed,the way he talked high voice, personality bingo his personality was more mature than other kids at school.

Neutronman67
01-06-2014, 12:42 PM
Furienna Steve Urkel was pretty cool and dangerous for a teenager i doubt he has Asperger's he had a good looking girlfriend, he had a few friends, he had a job, he was social and outgoing he was not afraid to meet new people, he took risks, he was not afraid to defend himself against bullies, he was a little on the
bad side he was arrested at the age of 14 for gambling, just because he dressed funny and got lots of rejections on the show dont mean he had Asperger's he was only a teenager.


Some people with Asperger's have some form of phobia i am not talking about you Furienna but some people with the syndrome cant have a normal life they are always fearful and afraid to try and do new things, i am not shallow on the topic you make it seem like people who have Asperger's like being eccentric and diff'rent from other people who are considered normal, i still cant see Steve Urkel having Asperger's he lived a happy life his only problem was he was needy he had friends,girlfriend who was crazy about him, he was smart, his only problem was he kept chasing after some girl who was out of his league, Laura she had already made up her mind and told him thousands of times in nearly 9 years that she had no feelings for him lol.

Furienna
01-06-2014, 01:22 PM
But seriously... You really don't think I recognize a fellow aspie? And if you think Steve doesn't have Asperger's, but Waldo and Judy do, you have no idea what you're talking about. Aspies can have friends and boyfriends/girlfriends, and we don't have to have phobias.

Neutronman67
01-08-2014, 09:25 AM
I never said said that Waldo and Judy had Asperger's i just said that they had similar qualities of what people with that syndrome have Furienna why you acting like just i am not trying to argue or offend you i am just trying to get my point across since you dont know me you cant say what i know and dont know i am a stranger lol, yes people with Asperger's can have a normal life but thats if they get treatment from the doctor at a early age if they dont get treatments they are going to be afraid to meet new people in the real world yeah some people are clumsy with this disorder but they have autism, i hope your brain can agree with what i am saying Waldo was quiet because in season 4 he told Eddie he had a fear of talking to girls he most likely had Anxiety problems plus ADHD,Judy was Anti-Social thats what i think thats my thoughts and opinion you know i am right watch all 4 seasons of Family Matters she appeared in why come she never got involved in the family conversations in the show why do you think she was let go from the series she was quiet character with no personality and people who watched the show would not miss her when she not return in season 5.

You judge, claim and label Steve Urkel as Asperger's just because he was clumsy you dont have to have a disease or disorder to have problems and no Steve Urkel had no disorder he was just a cluts he was normal, and yes Asperger's is a curse because some listen carefully i said some people not all people with this disorder are afraid of everyone and everything they lock themselves in the house for years or decades 24 hours a day.

Furienna you might have the best life in the world even if you do have Aperger's, but i was telling you know that some people which is most with this rare disorder are misfits to society unless they seek help from the doctor.

Neutronman67
01-08-2014, 09:35 AM
Steve Urkel had to much confidence in himself to think he had problems with his mind and body even if he was eccentric and clumsy, Asperger's is just a made up word to describe some people who are born with autism or or have shyness which is fear of trying new things in life.

Furienna
01-08-2014, 11:55 AM
Okay, you've just proven even more clearly than before that you know nothing about this.

Lorimar Television
01-18-2014, 04:01 AM
Steve Urkel had to much confidence in himself to think he had problems with his mind and body even if he was eccentric and clumsy, Asperger's is just a made up word to describe some people who are born with autism or or have shyness which is fear of trying new things in life.
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That is not true at all, take it from people who have aspergers, you have no clue what you are talking about and you really shouldn't talk about things you only make assumptions or stereotypes about. Why do you always start threads with "why come"? Just curious but that is not proper grammar, it should be "how come"?