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TMC
10-06-2013, 03:58 AM
http://www.bonethefish.com/viewtopics.php?157

All in the Family (http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=295444) is an American situation comedy that was originally broadcast on the CBS television network from January 12, 1971 to April 8, 1979. In September 1979, the show was revamped, and given a new title, Archie Bunker's Place. This version of the sitcom lasted another four years, ending its run in 1983. Produced by Norman Lear and based on the British television series Till Death Us Do Part, the show broke ground in its depiction of issues previously considered unsuitable for U.S. network television comedy, such as racism, homosexuality, women's liberation, rape, miscarriage, breast cancer, menopause and impotence. The show ranked #1 in the yearly Nielsen ratings from 1971 to 1976. As of 2008, The Cosby Show has been the only other show to top the ratings for at least five consecutive seasons. TV Guide's 50 Greatest TV Shows of All Time ranked All in the Family as #4. Bravo also named the show's protagonist, Archie Bunker, TV's greatest character of all time.

Mr. Television
10-06-2013, 11:18 AM
When Mike & Gloria moved the show was never the same. Still watchable though but their glory days were gone.

Dr. Thong
10-06-2013, 01:04 PM
I agree. The show never "boned" for me, but I was glad when they changed the name to Archie Bunker's Place the following season, especially where Edith was on her way out and the only one left from the original show was Archie.

TheCars1986
10-15-2013, 10:10 PM
Never. Archie should still be on TV today.

TVFactFan
10-16-2013, 11:33 PM
When Mike & Gloria moved the show was never the same. Still watchable though but their glory days were gone.



I think it jumped twice in one year when these two things happened

1. Jeffersons moved

2. Mike and Gloria moved out the house

treky
10-17-2013, 03:14 AM
it definitely did when Mike & Gloria moved next door.

LittleRickyII
10-18-2013, 11:15 PM
it definitely did when Mike & Gloria moved next door.


Yes, when Mike & Gloria moved next door (first time), when Mike & Gloria moved to California (second time), when it became Archie Bunker's Place and Edith was gone from the show (third time).

Fontaine
05-22-2014, 09:32 PM
The show was wonderful for the first four years. Then it was if somebody started letting the actors (especially Carroll O'Connor) direct themselves. Everybody started mugging for the camera, the timing was way off, and we started getting a LOT of unnecessary close-up shots.

treky
05-22-2014, 11:32 PM
The show was wonderful for the first four years. Then it was if somebody started letting the actors (especially Carroll O'Connor) direct themselves. Everybody started mugging for the camera, the timing was way off, and we started getting a LOT of unnecessary close-up shots.I never noticed all that.

GameShowFan66
05-30-2014, 12:26 PM
Once the Stivics moved out of the house, the opportunity for conflict just wasn't there as often anymore. I tend to watch Seasons 1-4 and sometimes 5 the most. I have all 9 on DVD but seldom if ever watch the last 4 seasons.

Once the Stivics moved to California, that was really it for me. To me that should have been the end of "All in the Family" right there.

howilu
05-31-2014, 12:07 PM
When Mike and Gloria moved to California, I felt the show lost so much because of the numerous battles between Archie and Mike. That was one key to its long, successful run and their departure changed the face of All in the Family as the focus became more on Archie, the businessman.

TMC
07-13-2014, 01:39 AM
An interesting "real world" theory (http://www.radiodiscussions.com/showthread.php?648888-Shows-That-Overstayed-Their-Welcome&p=5877867&viewfull=1#post5877867) for why AITF possibly "boned the fish"/"jumped the shark":cool::
Once Jimmy Carter got elected, they tried a little role reversal, with Meathead defending the President and Archie railing against him.

Once they saw that that wouldn't fly (Stivic's character is a "smartest guy in the room" contrarian, not a defender of the establishment), they toned down the political bickering, and focused more on Archie buying the bar and Stephanie coming in.

Dr. Thong
07-20-2014, 12:55 AM
When Mike and Gloria moved to California, I felt the show lost so much because of the numerous battles between Archie and Mike. That was one key to its long, successful run and their departure changed the face of All in the Family as the focus became more on Archie, the businessman.

And plus, it had been on the air for eight seasons at that point. Even if Mike and Gloria had stayed, the show would have had a creative downturn. There are only so many stories you can get out of a group of characters over time.

Had the show ended with the last episode being Mike and Gloria's farewell, I think AITF's legacy would have been stronger. The final season they did with Stephanie becoming part of the family was good, with some nice stories and moments with Archie & Edith, but it just wasn't the same anymore.

Johnny be good!
10-25-2019, 02:15 PM
Never boned. All the seasons were great in their own way.

OH Nuts!
10-26-2019, 10:43 AM
I’m with the “never”; I thought the show was utterly fantastic all the way through.