Speaking of GG, the spin-off called Nurses was a good show when NBC Debut the show in the 91/92 Season and was a Top 40 Show, almost cracked the Top 30, but when the 2nd Season came, NBC made a bonehead move and changed Stephanie Hodge's character of Nurse Sandy Miller from a sweet lovable person to a mean nurse

someone posted on YT that she said in an interview she did not like''the direction they were taking her character''. they had changed her from being a sarcastic but likable character to a hateful and mean one.

and she got axed

The show revolved around a group of nurses working at the same Miami hospital as Empty Nest's Dr. Harry Weston. Initially, the main characters were strong-willed nurse Annie Roland (Arnetia Walker), sarcastic nurse Sandy Miller (Stephanie Hodge), dim-witted nurse Julie Milbury (Mary Jo Keenen) and Latina nurse Gina Cuevas (Ada Maris) who frequently reminisced about her homeland, the fictional San Pequeño. Also in the cast were arrogant Dr. Hank Kaplan (Kip Gilman), wise-cracking orderly Paco Ortiz (Carlos Lacamara) and flaky nurse Greg Vincent (Jeff Altman). In addition, Florence Stanley had a recurring role during the first season as Dr. Riskin.

Changes were made, however, after the first season. In an effort to boost ratings, David Rasche joined the cast in the second season as Jack Trenton, a slimy white-collar criminal forced to perform community service at the hospital, and in the final season Loni Anderson joined the cast as new hospital administrator Casey McAfee. Other changes included the addition of Markus Flanagan as hunky orderly Luke Fitzgerald for the second season only, the changing of the show's theme song in seasons two and three, having nurse Gina and Dr. Hank Kaplan get married (Gina being pregnant with Dr. Hank's child). Nurse Greg Vincent was also written off after season one.

In the show's final season, Nurse Sandy was gone, and the show's focus moved increasingly from the nurses to Casey McAfee's adjustments in running the hospital under a new HMO, and the antics of Jack Trenton and his sidekick Paco the orderly.

Although ratings improved somewhat, NBC still cancelled the show after its third season.

another problem was that the show changed theme songs every season

once again, another bonehead decision for having a good show, then change its direction and then later cancelling it
i loved Nurses! it was funny and i thought the funny thing was i thought it was funny how nurse Gina Cuevas (Ada Maris) was lovestruck and it made me laugh to no end!:lol: i also laughed a lot at Mary Jo Keenen as Nurse Julie Milbury because she was funny too! so was Stephanie Hodge as Nurse Sandy Miller because of her Southern accent!:lol: that show was one of my favorites on Saturday nights along with the syndicated "On Scene: Emergency
Response" and the NBC shows "Empty Nest," "The Torkelsons" and "Sisters":) Dave Forman, Susan Harris and Ron Cowen, Michael Jacobs(who also the Producer of My Two Dads, Where I Live, Disney & Jim Henson's Dinosaurs and Boy Meets World) and Daniel Lipman created several great shows in that timeframe

Thinking about the current situation with Boll Cosby and the sex-abuse allegations against him:

What would have happened with NBC if The Cosby Show never premiered in 1984? Would the network still be stuck in third place during the 1984-85 season? Would NBC have gone with something else in the Thursdays-at-8:00 timeslot (maybe a different new show or just put The Facts of Life on that slot) even if it meant the following lineup of Family Ties/Cheers/Night Court wouldn't be as strong?

thinking about it now..
what if ABC got "Golden Girls" and "Empty Nest" to pair with "China Beach" on Saturday Nights? what would have happened with NBC? they might have been in a panic mode over losing two of their biggest hits at the time

another HUGE Mess-Up for NBC was cancelling 1 vs. 100 w/Bob Saget, it was a great show, plus Saget did an awesome job on here and IMO, I think that he was better on here than on America's Funniest Home Videos

Having NBC cancel the show and allowing GSN to pick up the show and replacing Saget with Carrie Ann Inaba the former Fly Girl from In Living Color and having the TOP prize go from $1,000,000 to $100,000 was a HUGE Mistake

But also, NBC should've cancelled Deal or No Deal instead of cancelling 1 vs. 100

I like 1 vs. 100 WAY BETTER than Deal or No Deal which was all about luck and opening up briefcases, not to mention, too many gimmicks

I like Howie Mandel, but Deal or No Deal changing the format is what killed the show

SHAME ON YOU NBC!

NBC: Nothing But Cancellations this past year. It nearly was, Mysteries of Laura was the only freshman renewed and it got lucky.

From what I understand, NBC wanted Jon Bauman to try and attract a younger demographic.

CBS (specifically Nina Tassler) had similar pull when Drew Carey was selected to replace Bob Barker on The Price is Right. Barker was not happy about the choice and Carey wasn't going to be FremantleMedia's choice (I think Marc Summers, Doug Davidson and Todd Newton, who all have hosted variations of "Price," were FremantleMedia's top choices).

But yeah, Gene Rayburn was PISSED about it. He felt his co-host should have been an experienced veteran like himself (Peter Marshall).

Interestingly enough, there was almost another Match Game revival with Gene Rayburn in 1985, but when the folks involved found out how old Gene Rayburn was on Entertainment Tonight, they scrapped the plans immediately.


A lot of people forget that Jon Bauman hosted a musical game show called The Pop N Rocker Game.

A lot of people forget that Jon Bauman hosted a musical game show called The Pop N Rocker Game.

I've heard of it, but haven't seen that much of it, if any.

Refusing to allow GSN to rerun Concentration.

I just think that older, more conservative folks/Middle America didn't really understand/"get" Conan's weird, random, absurdest brand of comedy. NBC only gave Conan the Tonight Show spot simply because they felt they owed it to him. It's kind of like how NBC was in a way, forced or relegated to giving Ann Curry the Today Show female anchor spot (which they could've done after Katie Couric left) after Meredith Vieria left.

The thing about Jimmy Fallon is that his humor for the lack of a better word, more than often, is edgeless and aims towards the lowest common denominator. Unlike Conan, most people don't have to worry too much about being "challenged" by Fallon's style of comedy. Also, Fallon seems non-threatening enough for NBC, since he's basically, a professional brown noser. Having Lorne Michaels there as a nurturer/buffer (which Conan didn't have when he hosted The Tonight Show) certainly helps.

My grandmother voted for Obama both in 2008 and 2012 and she didn't care for Conan.

I've heard of it, but haven't seen that much of it, if any.I saw some eps and it was so/so at best

I'm joining this thread late, and only skimmed through the first few pages...

I'd say not trying out more new sitcoms that could eventually replace Friends and Frasier. The shows that premiered around 2002-03 were all forgettable. Good Morning Miami could've been halfway decent, but the writing was horrible, and they tried to force a romance between the leads...an NBC trademark. The show also suffered from some of the most tired sitcom stereotypes I've ever seen.

Going back to my point of not trying out more than one sitcom, NBC went all in on the American version of Coupling in 2003, at the start of Frasier and Friends final seasons. Something told me it would fail just because it wouldn't live up to the hype of the constant promos...sad to say, I was right.

The Today show controversy from a few years ago, with Ann Curry's departure is definitely a blunder. What's even sadder is how they're trying so hard to make it look like the crew really does love each other. Honestly, Today has been mostly unwatchable ever since they introduced the big window with the screaming fans holding signs. It's also led to an annoying trend of "on location" audiences in the background of shows (see Extra). But I digress...

Back in 1994, NBC was the first network to do the generic style closing credits that so many other networks use now. Not so much a blunder, but it's changed how we look at TV, and so much not for the better.

Well here's another BIG TIME Mess-Up from NBC

RG-Reg Grundy Game Shows

$ale of the Century - AWESOME Show that lasted over 6 years, Jim Perry as always is a TERRIFIC Host, Sally Jillian was a bad choice for hostess, Lee Menning was a Good Hostess, but Summer Bartholomew is an AWESOME Hostess, having the speed round added after the Final Fame Game was a great idea, but when it came to the Bonus Games, the Shopper's Round was THE Best Bonus Game that fit the show

The Winner's Board was pretty good, but it was taken from Concentration where you had to match to win the prize and their were 2 WIN Cards which are also used as Wild Cards meaning that it's an automatic match and if you won 9 days or 9 games in a row, you could either take all the winnings and go home, but if you cameback on your 10th day and lose, you lose everything on the Winner's Board, but if you win 10 days or 10 games in a row, then you won everything on the Winner's Board plus the Cash Bonus of $50,000, but when NBC decided to change their format with the Winner's Big Money Game that's when it got bad

You had to solve 5 of the 6 puzzles in 25 seconds or less and later it was changed to 4 of the 5 puzzles in 20 seconds and it was taken from its sister show SCRABBLE with the SCRABBLE SPRINT Bonus Game where you had to hit the plunger to stop the clock, instead of 2 choices of Envelopes-Pink or Blue, you had 3 choices of Envelopes-Red, Yellow or Blue and instead of letters popping up, there were words that popped up, they have up to 6 words that pops in, (a la Break the Bank '85/'86) and they start @ $5000 on Day 1, $6000 or your 2nd day, $7000 on your 3rd day, $8000 on your 4th day, $9000 on your 5th day and $10,000 on your 6th day, now no matter what happens, if you win 7 days or 7 games in a row, then you play for the automobile and you had to win the Winner's Big Money Game to get the automobile, otherwise you had to retire, but if you win the automobile, then you would come back for your 8th day and try for the Grand Prize of $50,000

Having the Winner's Big Money Game and losing viewers to CBS' Family Feud w/the late Ray Combs caused $ale to be cancelled (on the exact same day Super Password ended after 4 1/2 years and Card Sharks on CBS would be cancelled a week later after nearly 3 1/4 years)

But $ale was and still is an international hit around the word, but Fremantlemedia North America in associaton with 20th Century Fox Television brought back $ale of the Century with Temptation and it was HORRIBLE, but that's another story @ another time

SCRABBLE (80's & '93) - another successful show on NBC that lasted nearly 6 years in the 80's and Chuck Woolery was PERFECT for the show, the Game Play was GREAT, awarding Bonus Cash for Pink & Blue Squares was a great idea, not to mention the SCRABBLE Sprint was a GREAT Bonus Round and winning over $55,000 after 10 games was an AWESOME idea, however, NBC decided to cut back on the Big Money Winnings and the SCRABBLE Sprint had the Bonus Sprint for the Winner of the SCRABBLE Spring Game starting @ $5000 and increased by $1000 each time is not won was not such a good decision, IMO, but there was a moment where a female contestant won $10,000 in the Bonus Sprint with .1 of a second

When NBC brought the show back in '93, they had the same game play, but the set changed and so did the theme music, but also, the Bonus Sprint started @ $1000 and having the Blue & Pink Squares added to the Jackpot was a HORRIBLE Decision, whoever came up with that idea should've gotten the pink slip and please don't get me started on the spelling format, which thankfully didn't last long

another game show that did great, but got cut b/c of big mistakes by NBC

SCATTERGORIES - another Game Show based on a popular Word Game, Dick Clark (who was 63 @ the time) did his usual good job and as always, he was great with celebs just like he did with Pyramid, but the format was rather strange, I mean, it was your usual men vs. women used on another Reg Grundy Game Show Hot Streak

The team in control was given 15 seconds to name up to six items that fit a particular category and started with a specific letter of the alphabet. The team scored a point each time the team gave an acceptable word. However, no player could give two consecutive answers, and no word could be used as part of more than two answers.

After the list was complete or time ran out, the other team could challenge any word they believed to be unacceptable. If challenged, a panel of five jurors voted whether or not the word was acceptable, with the majority vote ruling. If the word was unacceptable, the challenging team scored a point; otherwise the controlling team received an additional point.

Originally, Mr. Clark read the category and then the letter in play for the round and members of each team attempted to buzz-in and provide a word that fit both criteria. The team who won the toss-up scored a point and played the remainder of that half of the round. This was later changed to having the challengers play the first category and letter.

If the team in control had given at least four proper answers, they then were given a chance to earn up to four additional points with the celebrity panel. One at a time the team chose a member of the panel and that celebrity's response was played back to the team. If the celebrity gave an answer that was not on the team's list, they received one point. If the team chose a celebrity that gave an answer matching any of the team's answers, a point was taken away.

In the second round, the above point values were doubled and whoever was ahead at the end of the round won the game and $500.

If both teams were tied at the end of round two, a tiebreaker similar to the one used to determine control at the beginning of the episode was played. The first team member to buzz-in and give an answer ruled valid by the judges won the game for their team and played the Bonus Game for a Cash Jackpot

For the bonus game, one final category was played. This time, each of the five celebrities was assigned a random letter and had to give an answer that started with their letter.

after the winning team was given the category, going in order from left to right they had to give two answers for each celebrity and both answers had to start with the celebrity's assigned letter. The team was given twenty-five seconds to do this.

after the time expired, the judges went over the team's words and if any words were disallowed, the celebrity attached to those words was taken out of play. Celebrities were also taken out of play if the team failed to come up with the necessary two words.

Once the judges were done, the team was shown each of the celebrities' responses that they had unlocked. If a celebrity gave an answer that was not one of the two given by the team, they earned $100. If the team managed to do this for three celebrities, they won a cash jackpot that started at $4,000 and increased by $1,000 each day it went unclaimed.

Originally, the winning team picked one of five cards, each containing the name of a different celebrity. The team won the jackpot if they had captured the celebrity whose name was on the card, or all five celebrities were captured. If they were unsuccessful, they won $200 for each captured celebrity.

The cheap payout for $4000 increased by $1000 didn't do wonders for the show and was cancelled along with The NEW SCRABBLE, Reruns of Classic Concetration and Family Secrets w/Bob Eubanks

NBC tried to revive their Daytime Line-Up with Game Shows, but once again, they could not overcome CBS Daytime's Family Feud, The Price is Right as well as The Young & the Restless, The Bold & the Beautiful, As the World Turns and Guiding Light as CBS was once again THE #1 Network in Daytime Television

Time Machine - A Great Show hosted by Former Hollywood Square John Davidson of TV's That's Incredible/Incredible Sunday in his 1st Game Show as an emcee

John did a pretty good job hosting the show, he was 50/50 on The NEW Hollywood Squares, but was TERRIBLE on The NEW $100,000 Pyramid, but that's another story @ another time

The concept of the show was $ale of the Century Meets The Price is Right

Three contestants, one usually a returning champion, competed in mini-games, similar to pricing games from The Price Is Right, to win prizes. The prizes won went into a contestant's "Prize Bank". Each contestant played one game, with the champion playing the third game.

Mini Games (Format #1)

"Tube Game" – The contestant was given the names of two shows, and had to pick which one was airing in a given year. A correct answer gave the player control of the network the show was airing on. This process was done three times–the first with ABC shows, the second with NBC shows, and the third with CBS shows. After all three networks had been played the location of a hidden prize package was revealed, and if the contestant controlled that network the package was added to their prize bank. If the contestant get all 3 correct, he/she won the prize automatically.

"3 In A Row" – In each square of a tic-tac-toe board is a different year, all from the same decade. 3 In A Row had two different formats. The first format had a player start by picking three cards dubbed "Poison Cards". After the Poison Cards were chosen the player was shown nine events and chose them one at a time. After a player chose an event the year it occurred lit up on the board, and the game continued until the player made any line. If a player made a line horizontally or vertically, a prize was added to their prize bank. A diagonal line won a larger prize, but if a player made a line with all three Poison Cards the game was lost. The second format gave the player a choice between two events; each time an event was chosen the year it happened was lit up on the board and a new event replaced it. Since the Poison Cards were no longer in play, a player could only lose by making a diagonal line.

"As Time Goes By" – To begin, the contestant was given one free spin. Three photos of a celebrity were shown to the contestant one at a time and they had to guess in what year the photo was taken. Each time the player came within five years of the correct year they earned a spin. They then took their spins to the Money Clock, a spinner made to look like a clock. The area around 12 o'clock was painted red. The pointer moved automatically, and the contestant watched it for a few seconds. They then turned away and hit a plunger, stopping the pointer. If they landed at the red area, a prize was added to their prize bank. The game continued until a player stopped the pointer in the red area to win the prize or until they ran out of spins and lost.

"Before Or After" – The contestant was given $200 and a base year, and the contestant had to guess whether an event happened before or after the base year. A correct guess doubled the money, and the year of that event became the new base year. The contestant had three opportunities to double their money, for a maximum of $1,600 for three correct answers. After the third question, the contestant was given an opportunity to bank the money and stop or risk it on a double-or-nothing final question. Answering correctly doubled the money and added it to the prize bank but answering incorrectly lost it all.

"Sweet Sixteen" – Similar to the "Lucky Seven" pricing game on The Price Is Right. The contestant was given sixteen $100 bills to start the game. They were then shown a series of four products and had to guess what year they were introduced. For the first three products, the contestant was given a range to guess in (sometime in the 1950s, within the last 10 years, etc.). If any $100 bills were left after the fourth product, the leftover money and an additional prize package was put in their Prize Bank.

"Main Event" – A base year was given along with five categories. The contestant was given a free category of their choice to start and then picked from the remaining categories one at a time. Each category had one question with two possible answers, with a right answer winning the category and a clue for the "Main Event", which was something that occurred in the base year. After all the categories were played a clue was revealed and the contestant got an opportunity to guess. Guessing the Main Event on the first clue put $5,000 in the Prize Bank; each subsequent clue cut the value by $1,000.

Time Capsule

After the mini-games were played the three contestants faced off in the final round, the Time Capsule (Time Machine's Version of the Showcase Showdown). Davidson gave the players a list of four events that all happened in the same year, and then a clip from a popular song from that year was played. The contestants then attempted to guess the year, and the contestant with the closest guess became the champion, won all of their banked prizes, and advanced to the bonus round. The other two players left with parting gifts. If two or more contestants were equally close, John would read a question related to the Time Capsule year to the tied players; the first one to buzz in with the right answer won.

The 2nd Format

On February 11 (just over a month after the series began), the format was completely overhauled with many mini-games undergoing rule changes to fit the new format and others retired. The champion no longer played the mini games, with the two challengers playing for the right to meet him/her in the final round. They played three mini-games, each one worth a prize; the Prize Bank was scrapped, with contestants now keeping their prizes regardless of how well they did.

The first two mini-games were worth one point, the last one was worth two. The one with the most points after three games won the game and advanced to the Challenge Round. If there was a tie after three games, a tiebreaker question was read; the first one to buzz in with the right answer won the game.

Mini Games (Format #2)
Six mini-games were used in this new format. Unlike the old format, the same two lineups were used for every episode, alternating each day.

Lineup #1

"Game 1: As Time Goes By" – A photo of a celebrity was shown. Similar in format to Card Sharks, one player guessed when the photo was taken, and the other one guessed whether the right answer is higher or lower. Whoever was right won a spin. This was repeated with two more photos of the same celebrity. Each player then took their spins to the Money Clock, which now had four spaces. The four spaces read zero, $100, $300, and $1,000, with the $1,000 space much smaller than the rest. As before, the contestant watched the pointer for a few seconds, then turned away to stop it by hitting a plunger. The space they landed on was the amount of dollars they won. The player with the highest score won the game, but both players kept whatever they earned on the Money Clock.

"Game 2: Tube Game" – Davidson described an abc show that was on in a given year. Players buzz in to guess what show he's describing, and a right answer wins a point. Davidson then describes an NBC show from the same year, then a CBS show. After that, Davidson asked questions pertaining to the three shows. First to five points won the game and a prize.

"Game 3: Jukebox Game" – Four jukeboxes were shown, each emblazoned with a different year from a certain decade. A song is played, and two possible artists are given. Buzzing in with the right artist won the right to match the song with the year it was released. If they got a match, they got a point. If they missed, their opponent got one chance to pick the right one and steal the point. The jukebox with the right answer was eliminated from play regardless. If all the jukeboxes were eliminated, then the contestants just had to identify the song's artist to get the point, without having to match the song to a year. First to three points won the game and a prize.

Lineup #2

"Game 1: On The Button" – An event was given, and one player guessed what year the event happened in. Getting it exactly right won a point for that player. If they guessed wrong, Davidson would say whether the event happened before or after that year, and the other contestant had a chance to guess. This continued until one player got three points, winning the game and a prize. This game used the same set as "Sweet Sixteen".

"Game 2: 3 In A Row" – Just like before, each square of a tic-tac-toe board had a different year from the same decade. Three spaces in a row were marked with stars; these made up the "Magic 3 In A Row". One player was given two events. The contestant picked an event from the two choices, and the year it happened in lit up. A new event takes the selected one's place, and the other contestant picked one. Picking a space in the Magic 3 In A Row won $100, which the contestant kept win or lose. The contestant who lit up the third space in the Magic 3 In A Row won the game and a prize.

"Game 3: Main Event" – As before, a base year was given along with five categories. The game begins with a pot of $200. The contestants alternate picking categories, each one having one question with two possible answers. Each correct answer adds $200 to the pot. After all the categories were played, clues to a “Main Event” were revealed one at a time. The first person to buzz in and correctly guess the Main Event won the game and the pot.

Challenge Round

The Time Capsule round from the previous format was reworked into a two-player game and renamed the "Challenge Round" following the format change. The winner from the mini-games portion of the show faced off against the returning champion. The format for the Challenge Round remained the same, with the closest player winning and playing the bonus round. If the winning mini-games player was unable to unseat the champion, they kept whatever prizes were in their prize bank.

Bonus Round

Three different bonus games were used during the show's run.

Bonus Round #1 – Four events were given, only one of which happened in a given year. If the contestant picked the right event, he or she won a growing Jackpot of prizes. The champion only played for the prizes if he or she guessed the exact year in the Time Capsule round.

Bonus Round #2 – A target year was given, and up to four questions were asked. The contestant's job was to guess whether the event occurred before or after the given year. Four correct answers won the bonus round, a prize package, and a cash jackpot that began at $1,000 and increased $1,000 every day until hit. The game ended if the player missed a question.

Bonus Round #3 – This bonus round was used when the second format began. Questions were asked relating to whether a certain event happened before or after the given year. Enough correct answers won the player a new car, while an incorrect answer stopped the game. The champion had to provide four answers to win the car on the first try, with one less required for each return trip, and the car was automatically won if the player made it to a fifth day. Under this format, a champion retired when they won the car; the contestant they defeated in that day's Challenge Round then became the new champion.

IMO, having the 2nd Format changed was once again, another bonehead decision by NBC and not only that, but losing viewers to The NEW $25,000 Pyramid with the late Dick Clark also hurt the show, had the show stuck to its original format, then the show would've lasted longer than 13 weeks

and BTW, Charlie Tuna announcer for America's Top 10 with the late Casey Kasem and a Local Los Angeles DJ served as announcer for Both Versions of SCRABBLE, Time Machine and Scattergories, the late Jay Stewart of TV's Let's Make a Deal as well as announcers for Barry & Enright's The Joker's Wild, The NEW Tic Tac Dough and BULLSEYE was the original announcer for $ale of the Century and SCRABBLE before Don Morrow took over for $ale and Charlie for SCRABBLE

and now, I wanna get to a Reg Grundy Game Show that wasn't on NBC, but should've been on that network

Bruce Forsyth's Hot Streak - Now, I know that this wasn't on NBC and yes, this was on abc, but the format was great when you had your usual Battle of the Sexes, in which you had to give clues to have your partner guess the secret word w/o repeating clues and the Bonus Game was AWESOME and the set was great and I LOVE the Big Flashy Board that flashes the Big Winnings as well as the $ across the board, but let me say this, Bruce Forsyth did his usual good job, but I felt bad for him that this was his only Game Show in America that lasted 13 weeks, but the show is a Big Hit across the country, but IMO, I blame NBC for not picking up the show, I mean come on now, having abc pick-up this show and putting it up against The Price is Right and Wheel of Fortune hurt abc and NBC should've been smart enough to pick up this show and put it on their daytime line-up, had NBC been so smart, this show would've lasted longer and this along with $ale of the Century and SCRABBLE would've been the BIG POWER HOUSES of NBC DAYTIME and what's interesting was that the late Gene Wood was announcer for this show as many people know him from Goodson-Todman/Mark Goodson Game Shows and later, Marc Summers of Nickelodeon's Double Dare and What Would You Do? Fame took over as announcer for the show and the theme was great to listen to and it had that feel good dance music

and BTW, the themes to $ale, Both SCRABBLES, Scattergories, Time Machine and Hot Streak were all composed by the late Ray Ellis and Marc Ellis, of course, Ray did the theme to The Today Show from the 70's and Early 80's before it was changed to The Mission by John Williams best known for STAR WARS, Indiana Jones and of course, Superman w/the late Christopher Reeve

Once again, Great Game Shows, but ended b/c of bad decisions and mistakes from NBC and not pickin' up Hot Streak was a HUGE Mess Up, IMO.

I can also say changing the today show theme from The Ellis brothers theme to the mission was a mistake. Honestly, the mission is too bombastic and dramatic for me.

i also could say that normally a syndicated show like "On Scene: Emergency Response" would not affect a flow into the network shows but in my case(WYFF the NBC station in my area) was able to do just that between 90 and 94 because at the time "Hee Haw" which was on the CBS station was starting to show signs of slipping as well as age and WLOS my ABC station was a non factor at 7 on Saturdays(at least untill they got "Baywatch"). Getting "On Scene" might have been the biggest break that WYFF got because it caused the NBC shows to do better in my area on Saturday Nights because of the lead-in it provided(Usually a great syndicated show is a good lead-in to the network shows as we have seen with "Wheel Of Fortune" and "Jeopardy!" on WLOS for years) i think WLOS lost a great chance back in 90 to get "On Scene" to lead into ABC's Saturday night lineup imagine a lineup of "On Scene", "Young Riders," "China Beach," "Twin Peaks" that would have crushed NBC big time!:)

WLOS didn't they air reruns of J! And WOF?

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I can also say changing the today show theme from The Ellis brothers theme to the mission was a mistake. Honestly, the mission is too bombastic and dramatic for me.

I said much the same thing about CBS Sports in the 80s, specifically the time when Jim Nantz was in Studio 43 on The Prudential College Football Report at halftime of CBS college football broadcasts for the 1985 through '88 seasons. Did you see that within the CBS mistake thread?

NBC should have never moved "Unsolved Mysteries" from Wednesdays to Fridays. It dominated its Wednesday time slot and could have been used to "nurture" new programs. I worked nights during those years but always recorded the program and it was always kind of creepy and spooky, watching it well after midnight when I'd get home; the music and Robert Stack's sinister voice just made it Must-See-TV for me.

Not to mention, UM provided a public service by profiling wanted criminals and highlighting unsolved cases.

After the move to Friday nights, the show quickly declined...then CBS bought it, completely changed the theme music and tweaked the format a few times before throwing in the towel for good.

Never cared for the Dennis Farina remake.

I thought "Time Machine" wasn't a bad show. I saw it on an out-of-town station because the local NBC outlet was committed to "Sally Jessy Raphael".

I thought "Time Machine" wasn't a bad show. I saw it on an out-of-town station because the local NBC outlet was committed to "Sally Jessy Raphael".

IIRC, that's how WBZ in Boston was when they were an NBC station and it came to NBC's daytime serials.

I can also say changing the today show theme from The Ellis brothers theme to the mission was a mistake. Honestly, the mission is too bombastic and dramatic for me.

I agree, they should've kept the Ray Ellis Theme instead of changing it to The Mission, I mean hey, it worked with NBC Nightly News beginning with the Tom Brokaw Years, but not for TODAY and the current theme to TODAY isn't any better

The Today show controversy from a few years ago, with Ann Curry's departure is definitely a blunder. What's even sadder is how they're trying so hard to make it look like the crew really does love each other. Honestly, Today has been mostly unwatchable ever since they introduced the big window with the screaming fans holding signs. It's also led to an annoying trend of "on location" audiences in the background of shows (see Extra). But I digress...

Yes indeed, I don't watch TODAY on Weekdays anymore, but I still watch it on the weekends, but back in the 80's when Tom Brokaw and later Bryant Gumbel along with Jane Pauley were on TODAY along with Willard Scott, Gene Schallet and the late John Palmer was still goin strong, but ever since the 90's, Jane Pauley left The TODAY Show and found success with Dateline NBC and when they moved Deborah Norville (formally of SUNRISE and now INSIDE Edition) from the News Desk to pairing up with Gumbel, that's when the show saw the ratings go down and Good Morning America took over the #1 spot from 1990-1995 as Joan Lunden and Charles Gibson were a hard team to beat and Spencer Christian did the Weather

However, in 1996, The TODAY Show regained its #1 spot when Bryant Gumbel left the show and Matt Lauer teamed up with Katie Couric, Weatherman Al Roker and Ann Curry at the News Desk and that's when TODAY began it's promo

1st on your TV and America's First Family

But when Katie Couric left TODAY and Meredith Vieira took over, the ratings were still good, but from my understanding, Matt Lauer didn't seem too happy with Meredith being there, but when Meredith left the show and passed her duties to Ann Curry, that's when it REALLY got messy as of 2012, The TODAY Show struggled in the ratings, but also, getting rid of Ann Curry for Savannah Guthrie was a REALLY BIG TIME Mess Up and also, changing the TODAY Show theme as well as their new set to a more Hollywood Style Type didn't do wonders either

But also, another BIG TIME Mess-Up was having 4 Hours of TODAY which is TOO MUCH for Daytime Television

It's No WONDER why Good Morning America is kickin' The TODAY Show's Butt in the ratings

IMO, I can't STAND Matt Lauer, Savannah Guthrie is an airhead and Kathie Lee Gifford is an egomaniac

Thank GOD for GMA

I agree about The Today Show. Four hours is wayyy to long. I think The Today Show is overexposed. Not only that, but at least on KLG and Hoda's part of the show, they rush through too many things. I mean the guests are for like a minute and they rush through the cooking segments.

I agree, they should've kept the Ray Ellis Theme instead of changing it to The Mission, I mean hey, it worked with NBC Nightly News beginning with the Tom Brokaw Years, but not for TODAY and the current theme to TODAY isn't any better



Yes indeed, I don't watch TODAY on Weekdays anymore, but I still watch it on the weekends, but back in the 80's when Tom Brokaw and later Bryant Gumbel along with Jane Pauley were on TODAY along with Willard Scott, Gene Schallet and the late John Palmer was still goin strong, but ever since the 90's, Jane Pauley left The TODAY Show and found success with Dateline NBC and when they moved Deborah Norville (formally of SUNRISE and now INSIDE Edition) from the News Desk to pairing up with Gumbel, that's when the show saw the ratings go down and Good Morning America took over the #1 spot from 1990-1995 as Joan Lunden and Charles Gibson were a hard team to beat and Spencer Christian did the Weather

However, in 1996, The TODAY Show regained its #1 spot when Bryant Gumbel left the show and Matt Lauer teamed up with Katie Couric, Weatherman Al Roker and Ann Curry at the News Desk and that's when TODAY began it's promo

1st on your TV and America's First Family

But when Katie Couric left TODAY and Meredith Vieira took over, the ratings were still good, but from my understanding, Matt Lauer didn't seem too happy with Meredith being there, but when Meredith left the show and passed her duties to Ann Curry, that's when it REALLY got messy as of 2012, The TODAY Show struggled in the ratings, but also, getting rid of Ann Curry for Savannah Guthrie was a REALLY BIG TIME Mess Up and also, changing the TODAY Show theme as well as their new set to a more Hollywood Style Type didn't do wonders either

But also, another BIG TIME Mess-Up was having 4 Hours of TODAY which is TOO MUCH for Daytime Television

It's No WONDER why Good Morning America is kickin' The TODAY Show's Butt in the ratings

IMO, I can't STAND Matt Lauer, Savannah Guthrie is an airhead and Kathie Lee Gifford is an egomaniac

Thank GOD for GMA
my folks NEVER liked Gumbel..they always liked Charles Gibson better..whether it was with Joan Lunden or Diane Sawyer..they do the same thing with George now..

NBC should have never moved "Unsolved Mysteries" from Wednesdays to Fridays. It dominated its Wednesday time slot and could have been used to "nurture" new programs. I worked nights during those years but always recorded the program and it was always kind of creepy and spooky, watching it well after midnight when I'd get home; the music and Robert Stack's sinister voice just made it Must-See-TV for me.

Not to mention, UM provided a public service by profiling wanted criminals and highlighting unsolved cases.

After the move to Friday nights, the show quickly declined...then CBS bought it, completely changed the theme music and tweaked the format a few times before throwing in the towel for good.

Never cared for the Dennis Farina remake.

Actually BH90210 took some audience from UM once it was moved from Thursday to Wednesday night in fall 1992, and despite having high ratings shows that aired after UM were losing too much of its audience (Night Court, Seinfeld).

S1 - 17.4HH
S2 - 18.0
S3 - 15.7
S4 - 16.9
S5 - 14.2 (now going against 90210)
S6 - 12.5
S7 - 9.0 (Friday)

Scrapping plans for a [I]Coach revival.

canceling QUANTUM LEAP and not giving it a proper finale.

Yea, we didn't know if Sam returned home or not!

Hey, speaking of Loni Anderson and WKRP, here's something for ya:

Now, we know that she was not the answer to the 90's sitcom Nurses, but is it me or has NBC given Loni Anderson and some of the WKRP Cast the Cold Shoulder?

I mean, back in the 80's, Loni had 2 shows on NBC and I thought that they were good

She teamed up with her Close Friend Wonder Woman Lynda Carter as the title role to the NBC Mystery Partners in Crime

Set in San Franciso, CA, Lynda Carter played the role of Carole Stanwyck and Loni Anderson co-starred as Sydney Kovack, two women with little in common except sharing Raymond as an ex-husband. When Raymond winds up murdered, Carole and Sydney set out to find his killer and eventually decide to run the detective agency Raymond has left them. They were assisted in their efforts by Raymond's assistant Harmon Shain (Walter Olkewicz), Raymond's mother Jeanine (Eileen Heckart), and Lt. Ed Vronsky (Leo Rossi)

The series aired on NBC during the 84/85 season and was cancelled after 1 season airing only 13 episodes

The series was produced by Johnny Carson's Production Company Carson Productions in association with Columbia Pictures Television A Unit of the Coca-Cola Company

and after Partners in Crime, Loni reunited with WKRP Creator Hugh Wilson in the short-lived NBC Sitcom Easy Street which aired on NBC during the 86/87 Season

Loni played the role of L.K. McGuire, a onetime showgirl who manages to nab a young wealthy husband, only to have him die and leave her fending for herself against his embittered family, who are out to get L.K. out of the picture and away from her inherited money. Meanwhile, L.K. reconnects with a down-on-his-luck uncle, Bully Stevenson (played by the late Jack Elam) who has been on and off the streets of Los Angeles. L.K. invites him and his pal, Ricardo Williams, (Lee Weaver) to move into her vast mansion, to the consternation of her snobbish inlaws, Eleanor and Quentin Standard (Dana Ivey and James Cromwell). Quentin tends to be a bit more tolerant of L.K. and her family, but Eleanor can't stand them, and does everything possible to get rid of them all. the late Arthur Malet co-stars as Bobby, the McGuire's butler.

The series lasted 1 season and only 22 episodes and was produced by VIACOM Productions

Tim Reid also had bad luck with NBC when he joined the cast of Season 2 of the NBC Sitcom Teachers Only Starring the late Lynn Redgrave and the late Norman Fell of Three's Company Fame and the show was retooled from Season 1

Tim Reid played the role of Teacher Michael Horne, Jean Smart of TV's Designing Women Fame played the role of Mr. Cooper's Secretary Shari, the late Steve Ryan of TV's Arrested Development played the role of Gym Teacher Spud Le Boone and the series also introduced Actress/Comedienne Teresa Ganzel as Lynn's Friend and teacher Samantha Keating

Teresa is best known as Greedy Gretchen on Three's Company, the Tea Time Movie Lady on The Tonight Show with the late Johnny Carson and of course, her many Game Show Appearances and she is also known as the Sweetheart of Pyramid

Teachers Only was produced by Larry Larry Productions producers of Mr. Merlin and Jennifer Slept Here in association with Carson Productions and was Video Taped @ NBC Studios Burbank, CA

also, Richard Sanders who played Les Nessman also didn't get a well deserved respect from NBC when he played the role of School Guidance Counselor Benjamin Beanley in the short lived NBC Series Spencer Starring Chad Lowe and later Ross Harris and the series was later renamed Under One Roof and that, too lasted 1 season during the 84/85 Season

Not counting the Made for TV Movie with Howard Hesseman aka Dr. Johnny Fever and Head of the Class, I guess the only one from WKRP that has had good success with NBC would have to be Frank Bonner alias Herb Tarlek, other than appearing on Saved by the Bell: The New Class and USA High (which aired on USA Network), he has also worked off camera as Director for not only Saved by the Bell: The New Class and USA High, but also, every episode of City Guys Starring Wesley Jonathan of What I Like About You, Scott Whyte and Marcella Lowery of TV's The Cosby Show and The Original Ghostwriter for Pubilc Television's PBS

also, Tim's Wife Daphne Maxwell Reid has also had success on NBC when she played the NEW Aunt Viv on the final 3 seasons of The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air when the show moved to the NBC Studios in Burbank, CA which was also the home to The Tonight Show with Jay Leno @ the time

and so, with all the good show as I mentioned cancelled, NBC didn't treat some of the stars of WKRP well especially with Loni Anderson receiving the worst treatment of all back in the 80's

Also, NBC should have picked up WKRP for a couple more seasons. It had s couple more seasons left in it. Also in the early 90s, they screwed Hugh Wilson out of a development deal I believe.

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NBC was planning on reviving The game show concentration in 2000 after The Sydney Olympics but instead chose to expand The Today Show to three hours.

Speaking of Concentration NBC refuses to allow GSN or Buzzr to rerun The Jack Narz or Alex Trebek versions of Concentration.

How come they cant show Concentration?

Letting Saturday night live be on too long. It should have ended a while ago.

Letting Saturday night live be on too long. It should have ended a while ago.

As long as it delivers ratings and profits, SNL will continue on NBC.

The network cares about money, not quality.

another BIG Mess-Up, letting the NBA slip out of their hands after 2002 and letting abc/ESPN sign the contract to air the NBA on their networks

NBC had so many GREAT Talents like Marv Albert, Mike Fratello, Bob Costas, Doug Collins, Ahmad Rashad, Hannah Storm, Summer Sanders, Magic Johnson and music by John Tesh of Entertainment Tonight and John & Leeza

Other than Doris Burke, abc/ESPN have too many commentators on their doin' a poor job on calling the NBA

Thank GOD for NBA TV and TNT

The NBA on NBC had the FIRE, the Heart and the Passion to keep you interested, abc/ESPN don't have ANY of that

Not to mention, I miss NBC Sportsworld

Plus, The Match Game Hollywood Squares Hour was a pretty cool concept, but havin' Jon Bauman host the show instead of Peter Marshall was a HUGE Mistake, it's no wonder why Gene Rayburn was upset and personally, I don't blame him for that

also, NBC had way too many celebs from their network who either didn't know how to play the game or acted like they didn't want to be there

another Mess-Up was this:

35 years ago, Fred Silverman who was head of NBC Programming at the time let go of 3 Game Shows in The Original Hollywood Squares, High Rollers and The Original Chain Reaction in favor of The David Letterman Show

That was a HUGE Mess-Up Right There

also, NBC letting go of the Chain Reaction Spin-off GO and Hot Potato and giving them that DREADED Noon Time Slot didn't do wonders for them either

Thank GOD for CBN (now abc family) airing reruns of Chain Reaction, GO and Hot Potato on their network

another BIG Mess-Up, letting the NBA slip out of their hands after 2002 and letting abc/ESPN sign the contract to air the NBA on their networks

NBC had so many GREAT Talents like Marv Albert, Mike Fratello, Bob Costas, Doug Collins, Ahmad Rashad, Hannah Storm, Summer Sanders, Magic Johnson and music by John Tesh of Entertainment Tonight and John & Leeza

Other than Doris Burke, abc/ESPN have too many commentators on their doin' a poor job on calling the NBA

Thank GOD for NBA TV and TNT

The NBA on NBC had the FIRE, the Heart and the Passion to keep you interested, abc/ESPN don't have ANY of that I agree with you 100 percent about the nba I do not and never have liked the abc/espn coverage at all

Not to mention, I miss NBC Sportsworld

Plus, The Match Game Hollywood Squares Hour was a pretty cool concept, but havin' Jon Bauman host the show instead of Peter Marshall was a HUGE Mistake, it's no wonder why Gene Rayburn was upset and personally, I don't blame him for that

also, NBC had way too many celebs from their network who either didn't know how to play the game or acted like they didn't want to be there

another Mess-Up was this:

35 years ago, Fred Silverman who was head of NBC Programming at the time let go of 3 Game Shows in The Original Hollywood Squares, High Rollers and The Original Chain Reaction in favor of The David Letterman Show

That was a HUGE Mess-Up Right There

also, NBC letting go of the Chain Reaction Spin-off GO and Hot Potato and giving them that DREADED Time Slot didn't do wonders for them either

Thank GOD for CBN (now abc family) airing reruns of Chain Reaction, GO and Hot Potato on their network

I agree 100 percent about the nba I do not and never have liked the abc/espn coverage

I can remember NBC doing NBA games as a lead-in to the drama "Sisters" or the reality show "On Scene: Emergency Response" or even "Empty Nest" back then NBC had either Marv Albert and Matt Goukas on the main game and Dick Enberg and Steve Jones on the backup game back then sometimes they would use Tom Hammond if they had 3 games on the schedule

Letting Saturday night live be on too long. It should have ended a while ago.
It should have ended in the 90s.

It should have ended in the 90s.

And back in the '90s I (and am sure others) were saying that SNL was airing long past its' due date.

Again, as long as is it is delivering ratings and bringing in $$$, it will continue on.

I stopped watching a few years ago, but will occasionally seek out a noteworthy skit online if I hear about one.

Not cancelling Newsradio sooner.

NBC won't let them, and NBC changing from the mellow theme on the today show composed by The Ellis brothers to the bombastic mission theme. Too dramatic for me.

Having" Laramie" Run only 4 seasons. It should've at least ran 8 Seasons

13 Shows NBC Should Be Embarrassed About Canceling (http://www.cinemablend.com/television/13-Shows-NBC-Should-Embarrassed-About-Canceling-94867.html)

13 Shows NBC Should Be Embarrassed About Canceling (http://www.cinemablend.com/television/13-Shows-NBC-Should-Embarrassed-About-Canceling-94867.html)

Stupid article, more than half the shows on this list were flops from the start, I don't about older shows like Car 54, The Monkees. Earl was losing, not gaining audience until its very end.

Eerie, Indiana was on Sunday 7:30pm and that was probably the worst time-slot for any show.

Only thing I agree is that NBC should have given Amazing Stories 2nd season and better time-slot and promotion for TOS.

I'll tell ya another Big Mess-Up

The 93/94 Season

IMO, it was considered THE Worst Season for NBC Prime Time back in the 90's

I mean, other than Fresh Prince, Law & Order and Seinfeld which were still goin' strong, NBC Tuesday Nights was a BAD NIGHT for the season

I mean, putting Saved By the Bell: The College Years on Tuesday Nights against Full House and Rescue 911 was a Bad Decision from the start, not to mention, the storylines didn't make too much sense, I mean, getting Zack and Kelly back together was a HUGE Mistake, not to mention, hooking Slater up with Alex was another disaster, plus, had they hooked Screech with Leslie, that would've NEVER worked

I think that they should've had Zack hooking up with Leslie, Slater hooking up with Kelly and Screech hooking up with Alex

also, Getting By moved to NBC, but also, they changed the theme song and putting it up against Phenom was another bad decision by the network, plus putting Getting By against Rescue 911 was another HUGE mistake by NBC

Not only that, but also, NBC cancelled L.A. LAW after 8 seasons and that was a sad moment right there

Plus, the NBA on NBC saw the 1st Season w/o Michael Jordan who was retired from the NBA for Baseball during that time, but the Rockets winning their 1st of 2 consecutive NBA Titles against the Knicks was a good series

However, NBC like other networks (abc and CBS) were focusing on the scandals of Nancy Kerrigan being assaulted and the Trial of O.J. Simpson

also, The TODAY Show with Bryant Gumble & Katie Couric was still 2nd in the ratings behind Good Morning America with Joan Lunden and Charles Gibson

Picking up Matlock in season 9 was a bad mistake

Picking up Matlock in season 9 was a bad mistake

Actually, it was ABC who had it for its final season's worth (ABC having taken it over from NBC starting in 1992 at the top of season 7).

Stupid article, more than half the shows on this list were flops from the start, I don't about older shows like Car 54, The Monkees. Earl was losing, not gaining audience until its very end.

Eerie, Indiana was on Sunday 7:30pm and that was probably the worst time-slot for any show.

Only thing I agree is that NBC should have given Amazing Stories 2nd season and better time-slot and promotion for TOS.
i once accidentally saw Eerie, Indiana after a Bills/Jets game-Jets had the chance to tie the game late in regulation-had Falcons/Chargers at same time on CBS it also almost went to OT too and delay 60 Minutes but John Carney missed a field goal that would have delayed 60 Minutes-Pat Leahy missed a field goal that would have delayed Eerie, Indiana too! almost had prime time delayed on two networks that night lol

Speaking of Matlock, another BIG Mess-Up was the 91/92 Season when they moved the show from it's traditional Tuesday Night Line-Up to Friday Nights against abc's TGIF Sitcoms from Miller-Boyett Productions in Family Matters (which was still in the Nielsen Ratings Top 30) and Step By Step (another Top 40 Show in the Nielsen Ratings)

Having Matlock compete against the 2 sitcoms was the nail in the coffin for the show as it was cancelled on NBC after 6 seasons, however, abc picked up the show and it was good for another 3 years

also, In the Heat of the Night was also cancelled by NBC after too much competition from abc's Tuesday Night Comedies Full House, Home Improvement, Roseanne and Coach

However, like its sister show Matlock also produced by Fred Silverman, In the Heat of the Night found new life on CBS for 3 years as well

1995 was also a sad year for 3 Fred Silverman Series as they all came to an end

Matlock exits after 9 seasons (6 seasons on NBC and 3 seasons on abc)
In the Heat of the Night exits after 8 seasons (5 seasons on NBC and 3 seasons on CBS)
The Perry Mason Prime Time Movie Mysteries exits after 10 years

also, IMO, NBC should've stopped Perry Mason Movie Mysteries after the death of Raymond Burr, but I'll give credit to the one w/Paul Sorvino of Law & Order Fame and father of Actress Mira Sorvino of Romey & Michelle's High School Reunion w/Friends Star Lisa Kudrow

A Perry Mason Mystery: The Case of the Wicked Wives had Sorvino as Anthony Caruso and it had 5 Beautiful Actress/Models

Shelley Hack of Charlie's Angels Season 4, Model Kathy Ireland, Former Bond Girl Maude Adams of The Man with the Golden Gun and Octopussy, Beverly Johnson of MTV, Model Kim Alexis-the spokesperson for Alpine Lace

It was pretty good, but they had 3 more movies w/Hal Holbrook of TV's Evening Shade, Former host of Portrait of America on SuperStation WTBS and best known as the crooked cop Lt. Briggs in the Dirty Harry Film Magnum Force which I didn't know anything about and they should've stopped after 1 case w/o him, but I guess NBC was desperate for ratings

and as for Matlock, I guess you can say that Ben Matlock was outnumbered in the ratings by the likes of Sgt. Carl Winslow, Carpenter Frank Lambert, Beautician Carol Foster Lambert, Steve Urkel and the Codeman along with Dana Foster

NBC is making a strong play for CNN's "dumbest news network" title belt. http://slate.me/2c5OtQ3

I'll tell ya another Big Mess-Up

The 93/94 Season

IMO, it was considered THE Worst Season for NBC Prime Time back in the 90's

I mean, other than Fresh Prince, Law & Order and Seinfeld which were still goin' strong, NBC Tuesday Nights was a BAD NIGHT for the season

I mean, putting Saved By the Bell: The College Years on Tuesday Nights against Full House and Rescue 911 was a Bad Decision from the start, not to mention, the storylines didn't make too much sense, I mean, getting Zack and Kelly back together was a HUGE Mistake, not to mention, hooking Slater up with Alex was another disaster, plus, had they hooked Screech with Leslie, that would've NEVER worked

I think that they should've had Zack hooking up with Leslie, Slater hooking up with Kelly and Screech hooking up with Alex

also, Getting By moved to NBC, but also, they changed the theme song and putting it up against Phenom was another bad decision by the network, plus putting Getting By against Rescue 911 was another HUGE mistake by NBC

Not only that, but also, NBC cancelled L.A. LAW after 8 seasons and that was a sad moment right there

Plus, the NBA on NBC saw the 1st Season w/o Michael Jordan who was retired from the NBA for Baseball during that time, but the Rockets winning their 1st of 2 consecutive NBA Titles against the Knicks was a good series

However, NBC like other networks (abc and CBS) were focusing on the scandals of Nancy Kerrigan being assaulted and the Trial of O.J. Simpson

also, The TODAY Show with Bryant Gumble & Katie Couric was still 2nd in the ratings behind Good Morning America with Joan Lunden and Charles Gibson
My NBC station, WYFF-4 is serves the Greenville SC/Asheville NC market also had a bad season too.

Besides the shows you talked about, in terms of syndication, On Scene: Emergency Response, which had filled the 7:00 slot on Saturdays since USA TODAY: The Television Show had went off in 1990, was nearing the end of it's run too, and they were nearing the end of their run with ACC football/basketball telecasts from Raycom(that would end at the end of the 94/95 season) and also that was the same year that game shows would pretty much be gone from NBC/WYFF's schedule.

I mean, putting On Scene against Baywatch(which was at that time becoming a international hit) which was on WLOS-13 which was the ABC station was a bad move, since Baywatch was becoming a huge syndicated hit, not just in America, but internationally. I mean, NBC canceled Baywatch in 1990 and ironically, in 1992, On Scene which was on the NBC station went up against Baywatch on the ABC station! Talk about giving NBC a bad taste in their mouth!

What worked in Baywatch's favor was that ABC(which WLOS is still a affiliate of) had the exclusive rights to college football in those days, apart from the Notre Dame home games what were on NBC. That would change in 1996 when CBS got back into the CFB business. Since Baywatch aired after ABC's football games, it wasn't a good idea to switch channels after ABC's games were over.


Also, WYFF-4 had aired Solid Gold as a alternative to Hee Haw up till 1988, and then USA TODAY: The Television Show had replaced SG in 1988 till 1990, but they would rebound the next year with Must-See-TV and also the fact that starting in the Fall of 1995, WYFF would no longer need to preempt NBC shows for ACC football/basketball games as a new station the formerly WAXA-40 was relaunched, and they took over those games along with WLOS-13.

I have to agree with you assessment about NBC's mistakes in 93/94.

at the end of the season it was a sad time for WYFF-4 as 2 series left their schedule:

On Scene: Emergency Response exits after 4 seasons(one year as a local show in Los Angeles, 4 years as a syndicated show). It would be the last show that Group W Productions(also known as Westinghouse) would distribute nationally. It, along with Rescue 911 was one of the first "reality" shows(could add COPS as well)

the news magazine program A Closer Look with Faith Daniels also departed, meaning that WYFF-4 didn't have a network show to air at 12:30(to be fair, Faith was no match for The Young and the Restless), although that would change when Ahmad Rashad hosted Caesar's Challenge which also couldn't compete with Y&R and since then, WYFF has not a network show before Days Of Our Lives.

Expanding the daytime serial Another World to 90 minutes in '78. The show never recovered, even after shrinking back to 60 minutes. The show lost its momentum. Throughout the 80's NBC was rated last in daytime.

Have to agree about that. Expanding Another World to 90 minutes was a bad idea!

Definitely cancelling "I Dream of Jeannie." I loved it when Jeannie and Major Nelson got married and I think the show could of ran for at least two more years. Also, I really wanted Dr. Bellows to find out that Jeannie was a genie. That should of been the series finale.

that episode("HURRICANE JEANNIE") was going to be the series finale, but NBC had to shift a couple episodes that season because of their coverage of the Apollo 13 crisis so they filmed a new ending for "HURRICANE JEANNIE" and made the episode "MY MASTER THE CHILI KING" the final episode.

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XFL :crazy: :lol: :rofl: :rotflmao: :brent

Hey, I like the XFL.

When I started my thread about the biggest mess-ups/mistakes in ABC history, I mentioned in my initial post about how ABC meddled w/ Mork & Mindy following its first season. After posting this, I remembered that NBC did a similar thing w/ The John Larroquette Show. NBC (I suppose in hopes of making the show more accessible) forced John and company to get rid of all of the quirky, dark humor and it proceeded to become another bland "people w/ relationship problems" (in the Friends mold perhaps) program.

Actually, that had to do with the fact that the show was being clobbered in the ratings against Roseanne on ABC, a fact that NBC Entertainment president Warren Littlefield bitterly lamented. Littlefield was a very egocentric man who felt that any poorly-rated show on the network's schedule was a major sign of weakness that made him look like nothing more than a poor man's substitute for his predecessor, Brandon Tartikoff.

Four more words: GAME SHOW DEATH DAY. AKA the end of Chain Reaction, High Rollers, and Hollywood Squares. Also pulling a Bullseye/Hot Potato on Weakest Link, as the end of the run became Celebrity Weakest Link and nothing but.

Indeed, if I was president of NBC Television Stations at the time, I would have leaked out Fred Silverman's involvement in cancelling the three daytime shows. That way, he'd be unable to recover creatively with Matlock, In the Heat of the Night, and Diagnosis: Murder.

NBC also screwed A Different World over during its last year. Basically, they were angry over the decision to devote the sixth season premiere to the then recent Los Angeles riots. NBC proceed to move ADW around the schedule on a whim (w/ hardly any real promotion). What didn't help was that Fox had Martin in the same Thursday night timeslot, which began to compete w/ ADW for the same target audience. After being a top 20 show for it's entire run (and top five rated show for the first four seasons), ADW slipped down to #71 in the Nielsen's.

After January, NBC put ADW on hiatus until May and aired four more episodes (around this time NBC placed it in I believe, the Saturday night and/or Friday night death-slot) after the intended series finale. There were even three more episodes (one that guest-starred Tupac Shakur, one that guest-starred Lena Horne, and finally, one that guest-starred Billy Dee Williams) that didn't air until in syndication.

I'm pretty sure that NBC had little use for ADW anyway since it's parent show, The Cosby Show, had ended its run the season prior. Plus, I'm willing to bet that NBC wanted to get out of the "black sitcom" business since The Cosby Show, Amen, and 227 had ended their respective runs in the past three years. Yeah, they still had The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air but every other sitcom w/ a predominately black cast during the '90s like Out All Night and In the House only lasted about a season on NBC.

Apparently, in addition to being egocentric, Warren Littlefield was also a "tighty-whitey" executive.

Hey, I like the XFL.

So did I.

failing to pick up WKRP in Cincinnati for a couple more seasons after it got canned by CBS in 1982! WKRP would have been PERFECT for Must See TV! Grant Tinker was a fool not to snag it for NBC!

I didn't know WKRP was offered to NBC!

I didn't know WKRP was offered to NBC!


It wasn't but it should have been though! Especially with Grant Tinker being the head of NBC and his belief in giving shows a chance and the fact that NBC could exploit the fact that their sister record company: RCA Records could provide them with music!

It wasn't but it should have been though! Especially with Grant Tinker being the head of NBC and his belief in giving shows a chance and the fact that NBC could exploit the fact that their sister record company: RCA Records could provide them with music!

Maybe he did ask, but MTM Enterprises said no.

I read somewhere (I think it was on here) that CBS wanted to renew it, but by that time Howard Hessmann, Loni Anderson and Gary Sandy had already moved on to other things.

I read somewhere (I think it was on here) that CBS wanted to renew it, but by that time Howard Hessmann, Loni Anderson and Gary Sandy had already moved on to other things.

Yea. It should have gotten a second life in syndication.

After WKRP, didn't Hessmann do One Day at a Time?

Yea. It should have gotten a second life in syndication.
It did get a second life in syndication 3 years later.

After WKRP, didn't Hessmann do One Day at a Time?

Yes, he was on the final season, I believe.

Indeed, if I was president of NBC Television Stations at the time, I would have leaked out Fred Silverman's involvement in cancelling the three daytime shows. That way, he'd be unable to recover creatively with Matlock, In the Heat of the Night, and Diagnosis: Murder.I'm glad that didn't happen! Diagnosis Murder and Matlock are excellent shows. I could do without In the Heat of the Night though.

Yea. It should have gotten a second life in syndication.


Well, the new WKRP sucked!

Well here's another one

Cancelling 2 sitcoms in Sara and It's Your Move

Sara Stars Geena Davis of Beetlejuice, Stuart Little Movies and A League of Their Own as the title role to the series

The series also stars Alfre Woodard of St. Elsewhere and I'll Fly Away, Bill Mahr of Politically Incorrect, Mark Hudson who would later become a Bandleader on The Joan Rivers Show, Bronson Pinchot best known as Balki on Perfect Strangers, Jean-Luc on Season 6 of Step By Step and the title role to Meego, Ronnie Claire Edwards of the short-lived NBC Drama Series Boone and Matthew Lawrence the Brother of Joey Lawrence of Brotherly Love and Boy Meets World

The series was from Gary David Goldberg Creator of Family Ties, Brooklyn Bridge, Champs and Spin City and Produced by UBU Productions who was also responsible for Producing FOX's Duet and Open House in association with NBC Productions and was Videotaped @ NBC Studios Burbank, CA

The series also featured music by Famed Saxophonist Tom Scott who also did music for Family Ties as well as The Pat Sajak Show and Seasons 2 & 4 of Starsky & Hutch

It's Your Move was a sitcom Starring Jason Bateman of Silver Spoons and Valerie/The Hogan Family, Caren Kaye, Tricia Cast, Ernie Sabella of Perfect Strangers, Saved by the Bell and Pumba on Disney's The Lion King Franchise and David Garrison of Married...with Children

The series was produced Michael G. Moye and the late Ron Leavitt who also produced Jackee', Silver Spoons, Women in Prison, Married...with Children as well as later Seasons of The Jeffersons and was Produced by Norman Lear's Embassy Television a Unit of the Coca-Cola Company

Both shows were great, but putting both shows up against Prime Time's #1 Show of the 84/85 Season in Dynasty and later cancelling both series was another HUGE Mistake by NBC

Well here's another one

Cancelling 2 sitcoms in Sara and It's Your Move

Sara Stars Geena Davis of Beetlejuice, Stuart Little Movies and A League of Their Own as the title role to the series

The series also stars Alfre Woodard of St. Elsewhere and I'll Fly Away, Bill Mahr of Politically Incorrect, Mark Hudson who would later become a Bandleader on The Joan Rivers Show, Bronson Pinchot best known as Balki on Perfect Strangers, Jean-Luc on Season 6 of Step By Step and the title role to Meego, Ronnie Claire Edwards of the short-lived NBC Drama Series Boone and Matthew Lawrence the Brother of Joey Lawrence of Brotherly Love and Boy Meets World

The series was from Gary David Goldberg Creator of Family Ties, Brooklyn Bridge, Champs and Spin City and Produced by UBU Productions who was also responsible for Producing FOX's Duet and Open House in association with NBC Productions and was Videotaped @ NBC Studios Burbank, CA

The series also featured music by Famed Saxophonist Tom Scott who also did music for Family Ties as well as The Pat Sajak Show and Seasons 2 & 4 of Starsky & Hutch

It's Your Move was a sitcom Starring Jason Bateman of Silver Spoons and Valerie/The Hogan Family, Caren Kaye, Tricia Cast, Ernie Sabella of Perfect Strangers, Saved by the Bell and Pumba on Disney's The Lion King Franchise and David Garrison of Married...with Children

The series was produced Michael G. Moye and the late Ron Leavitt who also produced Married...with Children as well as later Seasons of The Jeffersons and was Produced by Norman Lear's Embassy Television a Unit of the Coca-Cola Company

Both shows were great, but putting both shows up against Prime Time's #1 Show of the 84/85 Season in Dynasty and later cancelling both series was another HUGE Mistake by NBC

It's Your Move was probably a show that in retrospect, too ahead of its time. It was from what I can remember and gather, kind of a proto-Ferris Bueller's Day Off/Parker Lewis Can't Lose type of sitcom. I'm curious how a show like that would've fared on Fox, where they were more willing to take risks and put on edgy, more irreverent shows like Married...with Children.

Pulling Bill Cosby's sitcom and cutting ties with him when They still maintain ties with Donald Trump.

Donald Trump is no longer doing Celebrity Apprentice. Arnold(The Terminator) is.

Donald Trump is no longer doing Celebrity Apprentice. Arnold(The Terminator) is.

I know but Trump is exxecutive producer of the apprentice though

The today show switching from the mellow Ray and Marc Ellis theme to John Williams' The mission. Too bombastic for me

Passing over a revival of Concentration for a third hour of the today show in 2000

Passing over Jim Perry for Wheel and Peter Marshall for password plus all because they felt it was too soon for them to be on TV again!

For those of you who remember life before the year 2000, NBC was once a great broadcast network that produced some really good television programs in the 1980s and 1990s. What the hell happened to them? They were owned by RCA for several decades but here are some recent ownership changes that may have played into the decay of their performance.
1986 - purchased by GE
2004 - merged with Universal Motion Pictures
2007 - Jeffrey Zucker became CEO
2009 - Comcast gained 51% of ownership
2013 - Comcast became 100% owner

I think they're still good.

Leaving out a different world for the NBC 75th anniversary lineup. I mean my god! That show is responsible for HBCU apps being increased!

Leaving out a different world for the NBC 75th anniversary lineup. I mean my god! That show is responsible for HBCU apps being increased!

That is a very good one.

Also Jeopardy! With a measly little clip and leaving out Hollywood Squares!

For those of you who remember life before the year 2000, NBC was once a great broadcast network that produced some really good television programs in the 1980s and 1990s. What the hell happened to them? They were owned by RCA for several decades but here are some recent ownership changes that may have played into the decay of their performance.
1986 - purchased by GE
2004 - merged with Universal Motion Pictures
2007 - Jeffrey Zucker became CEO
2009 - Comcast gained 51% of ownership
2013 - Comcast became 100% owner

That was a time when they were in 4th place for a few years, right?

NBC was notorious for destroying tapes of older shows into the 1970s. Just about anything on that was live or taped could have been destroyed, including daytime programming, Johnny Carson's Tonight Shows before he took ownership, and even news and sports. So unless the shows producers kept copies themselves a lot of older shows are gone forever, and a big part of it was NBC's own fault.

since the 70s they've taken steps to GUARANTEE that all of Johnny Carsons "TONIGHT SHOW" episodes since then are preserved.

Passing over Coach and the miniseries: The 1970s

Canceling "Unsolved Mysteries" in 1997. What I don't get is that the show's ratings had increased from the prior season. Many Friday Nights it was not only winning it's 8 PM timeslot against former powerhouse ABC's TGIF Lineup but it was also getting the most viewers in the WHOLE NIGHT.

CBS acquired the show and fumbled it, more on that in the CBS thread.

I know it was mentioned how NBC handles the olympics but no one mentioned the brainfart that NBC had in 1992 regarding the 1992 summer olympics where they in a joint venture with what is now Altice USA put all the games on pay-per-view and spreading it to three channels (making it the longest pay-per-view event ever although viewers had e option to only purchase certain days on certain channels and not the whole package.)

This was a really big issue when certain cable systems (at least the one that I had) had to preempt certain channels for two weeks because my system only had ONE pay-per-view channel.

You think by now NBC would do something similar but only with let's say NBCSN as well as offering he games via Internet TV so viewers wouldn't have to watch taped footage.

canceling QUANTUM LEAP.

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The biggest mistake that NBC did was cancel Deal Or No Deal because it seemed that Deal Or No Deal was a smash hit not only for NBC but also for Howie Mandel because in addition to Deal Or No Deal Howie also hosted the show Howie Do It but for some reason it too got cancelled and and ever since Howie Mandel is now a judge on America's Got Talent and hosted his comeback holiday game show Take It All you will never see Howie Mandel on any sitcoms or make appearences in NBC drama shows. And to think NBC made Howie Mandel a huge star when he appeared on St. Elsewhere in 1982 and he made his mark on the comedy scene because of St. Elsewhere and his popularity began to soar. I think when Deal Or No Deal and Howie Do It got cancelled it hurt NBC really bad and made them lose a lot of viewers. Second why didn't Frasier get a proper series finale and they should've had a spin-off show with Frasier as a father with kids and it would've been great to see. I have never figured out why every time NBC has a popular sitcom or show they promote it a lot before the show or sitcom even airs and then after one or episodes air the sitcom or show gets cancelled for no reason given and NBC should stop this habit and go back to creating sitcoms and shows that are great that everybody can watch
Bestie

The BIGGEST Mess-Up was cancelling 1 vs. 100

Bob Saget of Full House Fame was a great host and better than Carrie Ann Inaba when the show moved to GSN and it became a disaster

I personally like Saget on this show a whole lot better than his hosting gig on AFV, IMO

also, the problem with Deal or No Deal was that the show started off HOT, but then the show started adding too much gimmicks on the show and that's what lead to the demise of DOND, plus the syndicated version wasn't a HUGE Hit either thanks to Wheel of Fortune and JEOPARDY!

Canceling My Name is Earl

Canceling My Name is Earl
also QUANTUM LEAP

also QUANTUM LEAP
Ditto!

Canceling Night Court. I thought it should've gone on for at least one final season.

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Yes they did.

canceling QUANTUM LEAP.

If the Evil Leaper was a sign of things to come, it was probably a good thing they did.

Canceling Night Court. I thought it should've gone on for at least one final season.

The eighth season was supposed to be the last, but NBC renewed it at the last minute. So we got one final season that we weren't supposed to.

The eighth season was supposed to be the last, but NBC renewed it at the last minute. So we got one final season that we weren't supposed to.

Why did NBC all of a sudden decide to renew the show at the last minute?

The biggest mistake that NBC did was cancel Deal Or No Deal because it seemed that Deal Or No Deal was a smash hit not only for NBC but also for Howie Mandel because in addition to Deal Or No Deal Howie also hosted the show Howie Do It but for some reason it too got cancelled and and ever since Howie Mandel is now a judge on America's Got Talent and hosted his comeback holiday game show Take It All you will never see Howie Mandel on any sitcoms or make appearences in NBC drama shows. And to think NBC made Howie Mandel a huge star when he appeared on St. Elsewhere in 1982 and he made his mark on the comedy scene because of St. Elsewhere and his popularity began to soar. I think when Deal Or No Deal and Howie Do It got cancelled it hurt NBC really bad and made them lose a lot of viewers. Second why didn't Frasier get a proper series finale and they should've had a spin-off show with Frasier as a father with kids and it would've been great to see. I have never figured out why every time NBC has a popular sitcom or show they promote it a lot before the show or sitcom even airs and then after one or episodes air the sitcom or show gets cancelled for no reason given and NBC should stop this habit and go back to creating sitcoms and shows that are great that everybody can watch
BestieFrasier was announced as the final season long in advance, I thought the finale gave good closure. Although Charlotte is just ok for Frasier, Claire and Lilith were a lot better. At least he didn't end up with Julia or Lana, gag.

also QUANTUM LEAP

Quantum Leap fell victim to Time Changes

The show was on Wednesdays @ 10/9 Central and then the Final Season, it moved to Tuesday Nights @ 8/7 against abc's Full House (which was in the Nielsen Ratings Top 10 for the 2nd straight season) and its sister show Hangin' with Mr. Cooper (which debut that season and cracked the Nielsen Ratings Top 20) and CBS' Rescue 911 (which was also in the Nielsen Ratings Top 20)

and as a result of NBC's Biggest Mess-Up which was moving the show to Tuesday Nights, the show was ranked #91 and was cancelled due to low ratings and even the finale was terrible

The 92/93 Season was not a great season for NBC Tuesday Nights and CBS was still the #1 Network thanks to 60 Minutes being the #1 show for the 2nd straight season

Quantum Leap fell victim to Time Changes

The show was on Wednesdays @ 10/9 Central and then the Final Season, it moved to Tuesday Nights @ 8/7 against abc's Full House (which was in the Nielsen Ratings Top 10 for the 2nd straight season) and its sister show Hangin' with Mr. Cooper (which debut that season and cracked the Nielsen Ratings Top 20) and CBS' Rescue 911 (which was also in the Nielsen Ratings Top 20)

and as a result of NBC's Biggest Mess-Up which was moving the show to Tuesday Nights, the show was ranked #91 and was cancelled due to low ratings and even the finale was terrible

The 92/93 Season was not a great season for NBC Tuesday Nights and CBS was still the #1 Network thanks to 60 Minutes being the #1 show for the 2nd straight season
it wasn't always on Wednesdays at 10, for the second season NBC moved it to Fridays at 8 but so many viewers complained so they moved it back.

it wasn't always on Wednesdays at 10, for the second season NBC moved it to Fridays at 8 but so many viewers complained so they moved it back.

Gotcha, I didn't watch it on Friday Nights, but yeah, the show being on Friday Nights was not a great decision as well

Here's another Big Time Mess-Up

95/96 Season

Cancelling 2 sitcoms from Witt/Thomas Productions in Brotherly Love and Minor Adjustments

Both shows were pretty good, but the biggest mess-up was putting the show against CBS' Sunday Night Juggernaut in 60 Minutes

That's also what killed Punky Brewster and Silver Spoons back in the mid-80's and they both ended on syndication

Brotherly Love was a series that TV Guide called it as My Three Sons: The Next Generation

The series starred Philadelphia born Joey Lawrence fresh off his NBC sitcom Blossom (another Witt/Thomas Show) as Joe Roman, it also starred his real brothers Matthew Lawrence later of Boy Meets World (who also co-starred with Joey Lawrence in the NBC sitcom Gimme a Break!) and Andrew Lawrence as Joe's step-brothers Matt & Andy Roman

The series also starred Comedian Michael McShane of the 1994 film version of Richie Rich as Lloyd Burwell, Liz Vassey of Saved By the Bell: Wedding Bell Bliss and the CBS Series CSI as Lou Davis and Melinda Culea best known for playing Amy Amanda Allen on another NBC series The A-Team as Matt & Andy's Mom and Joe's Stepmom Claire Roman

Minor Adjustments was a series that starred Comedian Rondell Sheridan (born in Chicago) of Nickelodeon's Cousin Skeeter and Disney's That's So Raven as Dr. Ron Aimes and Wendy Raquel Robinson later of The Steve Harvey Show for The WB and The Game as his wife Rachel

The concept for this show was The Cosby Show meets The Bob Newhart Show

The series aired on NBC in 1995 and was cancelled midway through the season, but in January of '96, it was picked up by upn

Brotherly Love was a pretty good show, but putting the show up against 60 Minutes is what messed it up and they cancelled it after 1 season, but The WB picked up the show for a 2nd season, but once again, they put the show on Sunday Nights against 60 Minutes and after a combined total of 2 seasons, the series was cancelled for good

The NBC version was Co-Produced by Touchstone Television and The WB Version was Co-Produced by Walt Disney Television and it now owned by Disney-abc Television

Here's another Big Time Mess-Up

95/96 Season

Cancelling 2 sitcoms from Witt/Thomas Productions in Brotherly Love and Minor Adjustments

Both shows were pretty good, but the biggest mess-up was putting the show against CBS' Sunday Night Juggernaut in 60 Minutes

That's also what killed Punky Brewster and Silver Spoons back in the mid-80's and they both ended on syndication

Brotherly Love was a series that TV Guide called it as My Three Sons: The Next Generation

The series starred Philadelphia born Joey Lawrence fresh off his NBC sitcom Blossom (another Witt/Thomas Show) as Joe Roman, it also starred his real brothers Matthew Lawrence later of Boy Meets World (who also co-starred with Joey Lawrence in the NBC sitcom Gimme a Break!) and Andrew Lawrence as Joe's step-brothers Matt & Andy Roman

The series also starred Comedian Michael McShane of the 1994 film version of Richie Rich as Lloyd Burwell, Liz Vassey of Saved By the Bell: Wedding Bell Bliss and the CBS Series CSI as Lou Davis and Melinda Culea best known for playing Amy Amanda Allen on another NBC series The A-Team as Matt & Andy's Mom and Joe's Stepmom Claire Roman

Minor Adjustments was a series that starred Comedian Rondell Sheridan (born in Chicago) of Nickelodeon's Cousin Skeeter and Disney's That's So Raven as Dr. Ron Aimes and Wendy Raquel Robinson later of The Steve Harvey Show for The WB and The Game as his wife Rachel

The concept for this show was The Cosby Show meets The Bob Newhart Show

The series aired on NBC in 1995 and was cancelled midway through the season, but in January of '96, it was picked up by upn

Brotherly Love was a pretty good show, but putting the show up against 60 Minutes is what messed it up and they cancelled it after 1 season, but The WB picked up the show for a 2nd season, but once again, they put the show on Sunday Nights against 60 Minutes and after a combined total of 2 seasons, the series was cancelled for good

The NBC version was Co-Produced by Touchstone Television and The WB Version was Co-Produced by Walt Disney Television and it now owned by Disney-abc Television

I forgot that Michael was in the Richie Rich movie.

NBC seemed to have a sleeper on their hands during the 1991-1992 season with Eerie, Indiana, which starred Omri Katz as 13-year-old Marshall Teller, who believed his new hometown was full of various oddities. The series was mired in the 7 PM or 7:30 PM timeslots on Sundays and was either pre-empted by NFL Football or had incompatible lead-ins or lead-outs, such as "The Adventures of Mark & Brian and "The Torkelsons". As a result, the series did not attract any following on the network and didn't find new life until the reruns started appearing on the Disney Channel and on FOX Kids well after the end of its inital run.

NBC seemed to have a sleeper on their hands during the 1991-1992 season with Eerie, Indiana, which starred Omri Katz as 13-year-old Marshall Teller, who believed his new hometown was full of various oddities. The series was mired in the 7 PM or 7:30 PM timeslots on Sundays and was either pre-empted by NFL Football or had incompatible lead-ins or lead-outs, such as "The Adventures of Mark & Brian and "The Torkelsons". As a result, the series did not attract any following on the network and didn't find new life until the reruns started appearing on the Disney Channel and on FOX Kids well after the end of its inital run.

The Torkelsons was a series from Michael Jacobs the Producer of My Two Dads, Where I Live, Disney & Jim Henson's Dinosaurs and Boy Meets World

The Torkelsons aired on NBC Saturday Nights during the 91/92 Season between the network's Saturday Night Juggernauts in The Golden Girls and Empty Nest

However, the folks @ NBC decided to retool the series and called it Almost Home

The entire series starred Connie Ray, Olivia Burnette, Lee Norris (later of Season 1's Boy Meets World) and Rachel Duncan

Almost Home also featured Jason Marsden of The Munsters Today and Eerie, Indiana and played J.T. Lambert's Best Friend and Dana Foster's boyfriend Rich Halke on Step By Step as Gregory Morgan, it also starred Perry King who played Det. Cody Allen on another NBC series Riptide as Brian Morgan and the late Brittany Murphy as Molly Morgan

The series was once again joined by Empty Nest and Nurses on NBC Saturday Nights, but the show saw the ratings drop to a BIG TIME LOW as it was in the 100's and was also cancelled

That's another Mess-Up by NBC

The Torkelsons had the same issue that Eerie, Indiana did, which was being pre-empted by NFL Football. Of course, if NBC had been smart, they would have delayed their schedule on Sunday Nights like CBS did.

Any show on NBC suffered from being bumped by football if it was at 7:00 on Sundays. The Torkelsons, Punky Brewster, Sliver Spoons, Our House and Minor Adjustments were all affected by football overruns. In 96, NBC wised up and got Dateline to fill the 7:00 slot.

-not allowing GSN to rerun The Narz and Trebek versions of concentration

- canceling Twenty One in 2000

-Not going forward with syndicated Deal or No Deal and letting Arsenio Hall host

Cancelling Daytime Wheel of Fortune and moving it to CBS before heading back home to NBC

Cancelling Daytime Wheel of Fortune and moving it to CBS before heading back home to NBC


What's more after Pat left to do his talk show for CBS, they should have never interfered with the hire of Jimmy Connors and let him do both commentating and hosting wheel!

Here's another BIG Mess-Up

Caroline in the City Starring Lea Thompson of the Back to the Future Trilogy & Dennis the Menace 1993 & Suddenly Susan Starring Former Calvin Klein Girl Brooke Shields and Controversial Comedienne Kathy Griffin

These 2 shows were MUST SEE TV during their 1st season

When Caroline in the City debut in the 95/96 Season, it was in the Nielsen Ratings Top 5 @ #4 and it was THE #1 New Comedy of the Season

But then after 1 season on MUST SEE TV, the show moved to Tuesday Nights and the ratings went down, but it stayed in the Top 30

and the same thing with Suddenly Susan, when they moved Caroline to Tuesday Nights, Suddenly Susan debut on MUST SEE TV and it became THE #1 New Comedy of the 96/97 Season and was in the Nielsen Ratings Top 5 @ #3

However, during the 97/98 Season, Caroline & Susan both moved to Monday Nights, even as a part of MUST SHE TV during the 98/99 Season, the ratings for both shows went down and never recovered

Caroline in the City ran for 4 seasons on NBC from 1995-1999 (during my High School Days) and Suddenly Susan also ran for 4 seasons on NBC from 1996-2000

To me, another BIG TIME Mess-Up from the Powers That Be of NBC

Moving Caroline in the City & Suddenly Susan to Monday Nights after 1 successful season on MUST SEE TV

and also, changing the theme songs every season to Suddenly Susan was another BIG TIME Mess-Up

Canceling The John Larroquette Show

Not allowing GSN to rerun Concentration

Here's another Big Time Mess-Up

95/96 Season

Cancelling 2 sitcoms from Witt/Thomas Productions in Brotherly Love and Minor Adjustments

Both shows were pretty good, but the biggest mess-up was putting the show against CBS' Sunday Night Juggernaut in 60 Minutes

That's also what killed Punky Brewster and Silver Spoons back in the mid-80's and they both ended on syndication

Brotherly Love was a series that TV Guide called it as My Three Sons: The Next Generation

The series starred Philadelphia born Joey Lawrence fresh off his NBC sitcom Blossom (another Witt/Thomas Show) as Joe Roman, it also starred his real brothers Matthew Lawrence later of Boy Meets World (who also co-starred with Joey Lawrence in the NBC sitcom Gimme a Break!) and Andrew Lawrence as Joe's step-brothers Matt & Andy Roman

The series also starred Comedian Michael McShane of the 1994 film version of Richie Rich as Lloyd Burwell, Liz Vassey of Saved By the Bell: Wedding Bell Bliss and the CBS Series CSI as Lou Davis and Melinda Culea best known for playing Amy Amanda Allen on another NBC series The A-Team as Matt & Andy's Mom and Joe's Stepmom Claire Roman

Minor Adjustments was a series that starred Comedian Rondell Sheridan (born in Chicago) of Nickelodeon's Cousin Skeeter and Disney's That's So Raven as Dr. Ron Aimes and Wendy Raquel Robinson later of The Steve Harvey Show for The WB and The Game as his wife Rachel

The concept for this show was The Cosby Show meets The Bob Newhart Show

The series aired on NBC in 1995 and was cancelled midway through the season, but in January of '96, it was picked up by upn

Brotherly Love was a pretty good show, but putting the show up against 60 Minutes is what messed it up and they cancelled it after 1 season, but The WB picked up the show for a 2nd season, but once again, they put the show on Sunday Nights against 60 Minutes and after a combined total of 2 seasons, the series was cancelled for good

The NBC version was Co-Produced by Touchstone Television and The WB Version was Co-Produced by Walt Disney Television and it now owned by Disney-abc Television

I'd counter that and say a lot of these family shows with childstars were kind of close to their deathkneel by 96 as Disney Channel by then had switched a cable channel everyone had and Nickelodeon,Disney and Cartoon Network were taking away young kids from Primetime tv. It's also why ABC could not find a new hit besides Sabrina or BMW in their Friday night block by then.

Here's another BIG Mess-Up

Caroline in the City Starring Lea Thompson of the Back to the Future Trilogy & Dennis the Menace 1993 & Suddenly Susan Starring Former Calvin Klein Girl Brooke Shields and Controversial Comedienne Kathy Griffin

These 2 shows were MUST SEE TV during their 1st season

When Caroline in the City debut in the 95/96 Season, it was in the Nielsen Ratings Top 5 @ #4 and it was THE #1 New Comedy of the Season

But then after 1 season on MUST SEE TV, the show moved to Tuesday Nights and the ratings went down, but it stayed in the Top 30

and the same thing with Suddenly Susan, when they moved Caroline to Tuesday Nights, Suddenly Susan debut on MUST SEE TV and it became THE #1 New Comedy of the 96/97 Season and was in the Nielsen Ratings Top 5 @ #3

However, during the 97/98 Season, Caroline & Susan both moved to Monday Nights, even as a part of MUST SHE TV during the 98/99 Season, the ratings for both shows went down and never recovered

Caroline in the City ran for 4 seasons on NBC from 1995-1999 (during my High School Days) and Suddenly Susan also ran for 4 seasons on NBC from 1996-2000

To me, another BIG TIME Mess-Up from the Powers That Be of NBC

Moving Caroline in the City & Suddenly Susan to Monday Nights after 1 successful season on MUST SEE TV

and also, changing the theme songs every season to Suddenly Susan was another BIG TIME Mess-UpI liked Caroline in the City. But Kathy Griffin is one of the most repulsive people on the planet, any show of hers that gets cancelled is good riddance. I don't like Brooke Shields either, can't stand her recurring character on The Middle.

Making NBC "The Today Show Channel" by expanding the show to 3 and 4 hours!

[QUOTE=Jamey Greek]Making NBC "The Today Show Channel" by expanding the show to 3 and 4 hours![/QUOTEi agree with you

Here's another BIG TIME Mess-Up

Cancelling Rags to Riches

In case if you don't know what the show was about, I'll explain it to ya, if you do, please bare with me

Rags to Riches was a Musical Comedy-Drama from Bernie Kukoff Creator of Diff'rent Strokes and the short-lived abc comedy series Thea as well as the Executive Producer of Season 7 of The Cosby Show

Promoted with the tagline, "If you liked Annie, you'll like Rags to Riches" the series took place in early 1960's during the John F. Kennedy years and before the era known as the British Invasion and the Cold War

Rags to Riches which debut 30 years ago in the spring of '87 starred Brooklyn Born Veteran Actor the late Joseph Bologna (who passed away last week of pancreatic cancer @ the age of 82) as Nick Foley, the millionaire owner of Foley's Frozen Foods, who is also a street-wise New Jersey-born businessman with a playboy lifestyle. In the TV movie pilot which launched the series, Foley attempts to develop a family man image by bringing a group of six orphaned girls—who were featured in a newspaper story that they refused to be separated from each other—to live in the mansion in Bel Air where he lives with his butler, John Clapper (played by the late British Actor Douglas Seale). Foley does this to seal a business deal and does not intend to keep them there permanently. But Foley's plans change as he grows attached to the girls, and he ends up adopting them permanently.

The adjustment is huge on both sides, as the girls acquire a father with no parenting experience. Having spent the past few years in a rundown orphanage, the girls suddenly find themselves in a life of luxury (hence the series' title). The series follows the trials and tribulations of the girls and a man who has previously never loved anyone but himself and often struggles to cope with his new family.

In the pilot for the series, Foley takes in a group of six girls; however, Foley only adopted five of them for the remainder of the series' run:

Rose, 17 who was the leader of the group and the outspoken one in the series played by Veteran Actress Kimiko Gelman; Diane, 16 played by Actress Bridget Michele of the short-lived syndicated sketch comedy FTV; Marva, 15 played by Veteran Singer/Actress Tisha Campbell Martin of FOX's Martin and abc's My Wife & Kids; Patti, 14 played by Blanca De Garr; and Mickey, 8 played by Heidi Zeigler Twitchell later of abc's Just the Ten of Us. The sixth girl, Nina played by Heather McAdam of NBC's Emmy Award Winning Drama Series Sisters, appears only in the pilot (after the pilot was produced, it was decided that six children was too many for the series cast, so Nina was written out of the series as having been reunited with her birth mother).

The series differed from regular comedy-dramas in that the girls would frequently burst into song to help explain their feelings or move along the plot. Each episode therefore contained at least two musical scenes with covers of popular songs from the early 1960s with the lyrics changed to provide commentary on the storyline of the episode.

Rags to Riches Debut as a 2 hour Movie Special on March 9, 1987 @ 9/8 Central as part of the NBC Movie of the Week

Series Creator and Producer Bernie Kukoff wrote the Pilot Episode and Bruce Seth Green Directed the Movie Pilot as well

The pilot had topped the ratings at #1 and NBC Head of Programming the late Brandon Tartikoff received tremendous news, he decided to make it a series

6 nights later, the series was picked up and it aired on NBC Sunday Nights @ 8/7 Central time slot competing against Prime Time's #1 Drama Series Murder She Wrote

However, when the show was renewed for a 2nd Season, NBC made a BIG TIME Mess-Up by moving the show to Friday Nights @ 8/7 Central competing against CBS' Beauty and the Beast

NBC canceled the show part way through its 2nd season in January of '88 despite having a large fan base

Award Winning Songwriter Mark Mueller wrote new comedic lyrics for existing hit songs from the '50s and early '60s that were featured in most episodes of both seasons of the show. He also wrote the lyrics to the show's theme song.

Mark Mueller is best known for writing Hit Songs such as "Crush" by Jennifer Paige, “That's What Love Is For" by Christian Pop Queen Amy Grant and "You & I," by Earth, Wind & Fire for which he co-wrote with Singer-Songwriter-Musician Robbie Nevil best known for his Top 10 Hit Songs "C'est La Vie" and "Wot's It To Ya" as well as the Top 20 Song "Dominoes" and other Top 40 Hit Songs "Back On Holiday" and "Just Like You"

Mark Mueller also composed the theme to 2 Disney Afternoon Series DuckTales and Chip 'N' Dale Rescue Rangers (both performed by Jeff Pescetto) The Jets also performed the theme to the Rescue Rangers on the Disney Afternoon album

and so, all in all, Rags to Riches was a great series just like Fellow NBC Shows Diff'rent Strokes and Punky Brewster, but another Mess-Up by NBC due to time changes

IMO, I don't think the show was given a chance to be successful and that's sad

On June 5, 2012, Image Entertainment released Rags to Riches: The Complete Series on Region 1 DVD honoring the show's 25th Anniversary

In 1988, Rags to Riches was nominated for 3 Young Artist Awards

The series was nominated for Best Family Comedy Series, but lost out to Growing Pains

Blanca De Garr who played Patty was nominated for Exceptional Performance by a Young Actress in a Television Comedy Series, but lost out to Nicole Eggert of the syndicated version of Charles in Charge

Heidi Zeigler Twitchell won the Young Artist Award for Best Young Actress Under Ten Years of Age in Television or Motion Pictures beating out the likes of Natasha Bobo - Nothing is Easy (ABC) Olivia Burnette - Celebration Family (ABC) Jennifer Roach - Superior Court (Syndication) Amy Wheaton - The Curse (Trans World Entertainment) and Jodie Sweetin - Full House (ABC)

and BTW, my favorite song from the show is their rendition of The Coaster's #1 Pop & Soul Hit from 1958 called "Yakety Yak"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma3fhO9Z2uU

NBC Insider: ‘Total Panic’ Over Megyn Kelly’s Morning Show (http://www.thedailybeast.com/nbc-insiders-total-panic-over-megyn-kellys-morning-show)

Megyn Kelly begins her 9 a.m. NBC show in four weeks’ time. NBC colleagues are nervous that the poor showing of her Sunday night current-affairs show will follow her to ‘Today.’

This could have turned out to be a colossal mistake by NBC but nobody had any expectations at the time for an observational sitcom called "The Seinfeld Chronicles," whose pilot episode was burned off during summer reruns in the summer of 1989. Executives at NBC saw overwhelmingly negative numbers in testing and passed on the show in favor of "The Nutt House" from Mel Brooks and a sitcom that Brandon Tartikoff strongly favored called "Sister Kate", starring Stephanie Beachum and a pre-90210 Jason Priestley. Both series failed to garner any appeal and were canceled after one season. The Seinfeld Chronicles was saved from extinction by Rick Ludwin, who convinced NBC to order four episodes to air the following summer and eventually became a cultural phenomenon by the mid-1990s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAf-NpnrAjc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oaxreVYpCQ

NBC should've tried Search for Tomorrow post-WoF at 11:30 in 1987 instead of ending the show at the end of 1986. Much of Search's former audience also watched Y&R and 12:30 had a much-lower clearance than the 11:30 time-slot. Scrabble would've done better against Y&R because game shows are cheap (and expendable).

Keeping Another World at 2pm after Texas was cancelled. AW was never successful at 2pm, all of its success in the 70s was in the 3:00 hour. Santa Barbara probably would've weathered better at 2pm sandwiched between the established Days of Our Lives and AW.

NBC Daytime passing on Scruples in 1982. The Scruples mini-series was a ratings-getter in prime-time and a daytime continuation/adaptation was pitched. I would've had Scruples replace Texas instead of a forgettable block of game shows. Scruples could've aired at 2, 3 or as a half-hour at 11:30 after Wheel.

NBC also considered moving Flamingo Road to daytime around the same time. That would've been difficult because that show had 'prime-time' people in key roles that would be lost in the move to five-day-a-week daytime.

Passing on the Teen Titans in 1983 and X-Men in 1989. Teen Titans would've gelled well in the late-morning with Mister T and Kidd Video. The 1989 X-Men cartoon had a nice animation and a better cast than the 1992 Fox Kids series. I would've picked up X-Men instead of Karate Kid or pair X-Men with Karate Kid and reduce the disappointing, final season of Smurfs to 30-minutes.

I didn't see the 1989 X-Men cartoon. But if I catch it on youtube, I'll stick with the Fox Kids version which I thought was great.

I know I posted this already but Jimmy Connors auditioned to be Pat Sajak's succsssor on Wheel of Fortune and he knew the show like the back of his hand. Watching it every day. He auditioned and blew everyone away and was named host. But then NBC stepped in and suggested him in their sports department. Connors knew the show very well compared to Rolf Benirschke who watched Wheel in snippets and was stiff and uncomfortable on camera. NBC should have allowed Jimmy to host Wheel and do tennis.

I know I posted this already but Jimmy Connors auditioned to be Pat Sajak's succsssor on Wheel of Fortune and he knew the show like the back of his hand. Watching it every day. He auditioned and blew everyone away and was named host. But then NBC stepped in and suggested him in their sports department. Connors knew the show very well compared to Rolf Benirschke who watched Wheel in snippets and was stiff and uncomfortable on camera. NBC should have allowed Jimmy to host Wheel and do tennis.
That would've been good synergy and cross-promotion. Like years later when ABC/Disney had Meredith Viera do Who Wants To Be A Millionaire and The View simultaneously. Back in the nineties CBS Sports would let Pat O'Brien moonlight at Entertainment Tonight.

I didn't see the 1989 X-Men cartoon. But if I catch it on youtube, I'll stick with the Fox Kids version which I thought was great.

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Here's a hypothetical (http://www.denofgeek.com/us/tv/x-men/255596/pryde-of-the-x-men-the-animated-series-we-almost-got) late '80s X-Men cartoon episode guide:
1x02: Escape the Savage Land!

Professor X and his X-Men are baffled to discover a tropical jungle in the middle of Antarctica. There they meet Ka-Zar, a brave warrior who helps them fight off a group of monsters that stalk our heroes. Things get even stranger when Magneto suddenly appears…

1x03: One Nation, Under Nefaria

Count Nefaria traps the entire city of Washington, D.C. beneath a giant dome that not even the military's forces can penetrate. Then he makes his team of X-Men imposters look responsible for the deed. Can the real X-Men clear their names and free the US capital before it’s too late?

1x04: Not by a Longshot

Cerebro detects a new mutant in the city. When the X-Men meet up with him, they find out he’s an amnesiac and doesn’t remember anything about his past, or his abilities. The team is in awe of his apparent streak of good luck, but so is Magneto…

1x05: And Your Enemies Closer

When a mad scientist named Dr. William Stryker kidnaps Professor X and wires him up to a machine that will use his psychic energy to destroy all mutants across the world, the team turns to the only person that’s powerful enough to stop it from happening: Magneto.

1x06: Island of Fear

After the X-Men answer a distress call from their friend Banshee in Scotland, they travel across the globe to his island laboratory and find it in shambles. A monstrous experiment of his is on the loose, and it lurks in the dark, watching the team…

1x07: Flight of the Dark Phoenix, Pt. 1

Jean Grey, a former member of the X-Men who disappeared after a fateful mission in outer space, finally returns to the mansion. Cyclops is beside himself. Is she what she seems? But while the rest of the team explain her history to Kitty, the White Queen plots to harness Jean's psychic powers for her own use. Meanwhile, a group of aliens appear on earth, searching for something called the Phoenix.

1x08: Flight of the Dark Phoenix, Pt 2

Despite the White Queen’s attempts to control Jean Grey’s mind, the powerful Phoenix entity won’t allow it. But everyone is shocked when the mysterious extraterrestrials put Jean Grey on cosmic trial for destroying their entire home planet! Can the X-Men stop this madness, or will the Phoenix powers be the end of Jean Grey?

1x09: The Weapon X-periment

When the Danger Room malfunctions during training, Kitty Pryde and Wolverine are stuck inside one of its simulations. While the rest of the team try to fix the problem in the control room, Wolverine tells the new recruit about how he joined the X-Men and the mysterious “Weapon X” project.

1x10: Meet The New Mutants

When the X-Men are captured and taken off into space by strange aliens known as the Brood, it’s up to Kitty Pryde and a group of misfit teenage students from Xavier’s School for the Gifted to save them. But the real question is: can they get along first?

1x11: The Spider-Man Adventure

Chaos ensues when Mysterio joins forces with Magneto to take over the Daily Bugle headquarters. The X-Men team up with Spider-Man and his amazing friends Firestar and Iceman once again to derail their plans, making Kitty feel like the odd one out.

1x12: The Uncanny Space Knight

When a race of alien witches known as Wraiths come to take over our planet, the team calls upon the help of their number one enemy - ROM the space knight. But Magneto seeks to reprogram him to serve his own agenda...

1x13: Back to the Present

Kitty keeps phasing in and out of the future, one that’s ruled by the Brotherhood of Mutants and their army of robot sentinels - a dark future where the X-Men have lost the war and are hunted like fugitives. Can she stop this timeline from coming to pass with the help of Wolverine and Professor X?

Season 2:

2x1 - Old Friends, Pt. 1 - The Iceman Cometh - Iceman and Beast have come from Los Angeles looking for the X-Men's help. The New Defenders have been soundly beaten, and only the X-Men can help them save one of their mutual former friends... Angel.

2x2 - Old Friends Pt. 2 - On Angel's Wings - Moondragon has located Angel, but now a larger problem looms overhead... the Dragon of the Moon! Will the X-Men and New Defenders be able to even survive the upcoming battle?

2x3 - Mayhem in Murderworld - The X-Men, needing a much deserved vacation, decide to stop by a new theme park. Little do they know that master assassin Arcade has designed this park with a few twists...

2x4 - Eye of the Storm - Peter Henry Gyrich returns from Season 1's The Uncanny Space Knight, and in an experiment gone wrong, has stolen Storm's powers! Can the weather witch get her powers back with the help of new ally, Forge?

2x5 - Cry Havok - Alex Summers was a member of the X-men by the code name Havok, until he went to college. He's back, and he needs the X-Men's help in rescuing his girlfriend, former X-Men Lorna Dane, (Polaris) from a mutant called the Living Pharaoh. But can Havok keep his powers in check while fighting such a powerful foe?

2x6 - Breaking Bonds - A visiting Captain America has come to the X-Mansion wondering if Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch should be considered for Avengers membership. Professor X recounts how the two heroes started off as enemies of the X-Men, but shifted to become allies.

2x7 - Beauty and the Beast - Dazzler is abducted in the middle of the night by Hank McCoy, the Avenger and former X-Man called Beast, with a problem only she can help solve!

2x8 - Secret Wars, Pt. 1 - The X-Men have walked through a mysterious door only to find themselves with other heroes in a battle for the ages! Can they learn to trust the other superheroes, or will they need to go their own way? Even on a different planet, they might be in a world that hates and fears their mutant gifts...

2x9 - Secret Wars, Pt. 2 - The X-Men have made peace with the other heroes and Magneto, but now must face a cosmically powered Doctor Doom. Can Professor X and Cyclops follow Captain America's lead to victory?

2x10 - Contest of Champions - Colossus has been pulled into a contest of strength and skill by the Champion, along with the Hulk, the Thing, and several others. Who will come out the victor?

2x11 - Mutant Massacre Pt. 1 - The Marauders - The X-Men, worn out from the Secret Wars and the Contest of Champions are called to rescue underground mutants from the deadliest opponents they've ever faced.

2x12 - Mutant Massacre Pt. 2 - Survival - Decimated from their losses and needing recovery, the depleted ranks of the X-Men need to accept help from Thor to defeat these new opponents. Can the group ever recover?

2x13 - Rebirth - Psylocke, Longshot, Rogue, and Havok have joined Colossus, Storm, Dazzler, and Wolverine to make an all-new team of X-Men. But with Professor X with Lilandra recovering from his injuries, and Magneto being put in charge at the Mansion, will anything ever be the same for the team? Get ready for the stage to be set for an all new team next season, as the group goes global, starting with the Australian outback!

Keeping Another World at 2pm after Texas was cancelled. AW was never successful at 2pm, all of its success in the 70s was in the 3:00 hour. Santa Barbara probably would've weathered better at 2pm sandwiched between the established Days of Our Lives and AW.

NBC Daytime passing on Scruples in 1982. The Scruples mini-series was a ratings-getter in prime-time and a daytime continuation/adaptation was pitched. I would've had Scruples replace Texas instead of a forgettable block of game shows. Scruples could've aired at 2, 3 or as a half-hour at 11:30 after Wheel.

NBC also considered moving Flamingo Road to daytime around the same time. That would've been difficult because that show had 'prime-time' people in key roles that would be lost in the move to five-day-a-week daytime.

Passing on the Teen Titans in 1983 and X-Men in 1989. Teen Titans would've gelled well in the late-morning with Mister T and Kidd Video. The 1989 X-Men cartoon had a nice animation and a better cast than the 1992 Fox Kids series. I would've picked up X-Men instead of Karate Kid or pair X-Men with Karate Kid and reduce the disappointing, final season of Smurfs to 30-minutes.

I was thinking Scruples would have went either after Wheel of Fortune, or at 2pm as an hour. It was supposed to star Susan Flannery?

I wonder if NBC would have made a preemptive move to grab The Price is Right from CBS? If so, that creates a pretty good lineup.
10am The Price is Right
11am Wheel of Fortune
11:30 Scruples

Keeping Another World at 2pm after Texas was cancelled. AW was never successful at 2pm, all of its success in the 70s was in the 3:00 hour. Santa Barbara probably would've weathered better at 2pm sandwiched between the established Days of Our Lives and AW.

NBC Daytime passing on Scruples in 1982. The Scruples mini-series was a ratings-getter in prime-time and a daytime continuation/adaptation was pitched. I would've had Scruples replace Texas instead of a forgettable block of game shows. Scruples could've aired at 2, 3 or as a half-hour at 11:30 after Wheel.

NBC also considered moving Flamingo Road to daytime around the same time. That would've been difficult because that show had 'prime-time' people in key roles that would be lost in the move to five-day-a-week daytime.

Passing on the Teen Titans in 1983 and X-Men in 1989. Teen Titans would've gelled well in the late-morning with Mister T and Kidd Video. The 1989 X-Men cartoon had a nice animation and a better cast than the 1992 Fox Kids series. I would've picked up X-Men instead of Karate Kid or pair X-Men with Karate Kid and reduce the disappointing, final season of Smurfs to 30-minutes.


Not sure how my NBC affiliate might have handled X-Men, given that they still had wrestling on Saturday mornings. Maybe they would have aired the wrestling after SNL or aired X-Men in a earlier slot.

There was wrestling on your local NBC affiliate? What was it?

NBC Insider: ‘Total Panic’ Over Megyn Kelly’s Morning Show (http://www.thedailybeast.com/nbc-insiders-total-panic-over-megyn-kellys-morning-show)

"Megyn Kelly Today" Is Not Going Well (https://www.buzzfeed.com/kateaurthur/megyn-kelly-today-oh-no-no-no?utm_term=.qkZ999RppE#.kqZZZZG00R)

A Partial Autopsy of Megyn Kelly's First Week on NBC's Today Show (http://www.pajiba.com/politics/a-partial-autopsy-of-megyn-kellys-first-week-on-nbcs-today-show.php)

divesting from sitcoms after "Friends" and "Frasier" ended their runs and stuffing the schedule with reality shows, hence the 2004-05 season landed NBC in the basement for, as it turned out, nine seasons

Canceling you don't say in the late 60s when Tom Kennedy and his family just moved into a new house

Making KYW-TV (on Channel 3) its Philadelphia affiliate. When I was a kid, living in southeastern Pennsylvania, KYW would show local programming in prime time, so some of NBC shows were either aired on another Philadelphia channel or not aired in Philly at all. WCAU-TV (on Channel 10) was the CBS affiliate in Philadelphia. In the mid-nineties, the two stations switched networks.

divesting from sitcoms after "Friends" and "Frasier" ended their runs and stuffing the schedule with reality shows, hence the 2004-05 season landed NBC in the basement for, as it turned out, nine seasonsi agree 100 percent i am so glad that the jeff zucker manging for margibs era is over and that nbc under robert greeenblatt jennifer salke abd ther team really seems to be turning things around

i agree 100 percent i am so glad that the jeff zucker manging for margibs era is over and that nbc under robert greeenblatt jennifer salke abd ther team really seems to be turning things around

Special thanks to Dan Fogelman for "This Is Us." :)

I wonder if NBC would have made a preemptive move to grab The Price is Right from CBS? If so, that creates a pretty good lineup.
10am The Price is Right
11am Wheel of Fortune
11:30 Scruples

I think at one point Mark Goodson threatened to move TPIR to NBC

^^^ That would've been cool.

"Megyn Kelly Today" Is Not Going Well (https://www.buzzfeed.com/kateaurthur/megyn-kelly-today-oh-no-no-no?utm_term=.qkZ999RppE#.kqZZZZG00R)

A Partial Autopsy of Megyn Kelly's First Week on NBC's Today Show (http://www.pajiba.com/politics/a-partial-autopsy-of-megyn-kellys-first-week-on-nbcs-today-show.php)

EXCLUSIVE: NBC's '$69 MILLION mistake!' Network execs slam floundering Megyn Kelly as they reveal she is making $23M yearly in a three-year deal (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4948276/Floundering-Megyn-Kelly-makes-23m-year-NBC.html)

Here are the factors to why NBC wanted her
Attacked by Trump and was given sympathy card. Played the damsel in distress role. Mainstream media ate it up.
Increase star power at NBC. Andy Lack wanted a well known presence on NBC.
Try to get conservative viewership. NBC wants to get conservative viewers to their network and they though Megyn's work at FOX would work in getting them there.
Asthetics, blonde, well spoken and outspoken
Possibly being groomed to replace Matt Lauer or Savannah Guthrie. Today Show's ratings are on the decline they want to slowly push some of the hosts out.

Making KYW-TV (on Channel 3) its Philadelphia affiliate. When I was a kid, living in southeastern Pennsylvania, KYW would show local programming in prime time, so some of NBC shows were either aired on another Philadelphia channel or not aired in Philly at all. WCAU-TV (on Channel 10) was the CBS affiliate in Philadelphia. In the mid-nineties, the two stations switched networks.

Actually, KYW was not alone in preempting programming. All stations owned by Westinghouse Broadcasting at the time, like KYW, preempted certain hours of programming content, in favor of local or syndicated programming. Personally, I actually somewhat like it when network affiliates preempt certain hours of network programs in favor of local content, as it shows that they actually care about what goes on in their communities and don't just think about trying to be a generic station that only shows syndicated programming outside of network hours.

Actually, KYW was not alone in preempting programming. All stations owned by Westinghouse Broadcasting at the time, like KYW, preempted certain hours of programming content, in favor of local or syndicated programming. Personally, I actually somewhat like it when network affiliates preempt certain hours of network programs in favor of local content, as it shows that they actually care about what goes on in their communities and don't just think about trying to be a generic station that only shows syndicated programming outside of network hours.

There was this one NBC show on Tuesday nights I always wanted to watch that was pre-empted by KYW and thus shown in the Philadelphia area on a local UHF station on Sunday evenings before prime time. It was almost impossible to catch it then. This was in the late 1970s, before VCRs. The show was canceled after one season, so ultimately it didn't matter. Still, the local UHF station should have been the one involved with local programming.

Here's another one

NBC not pickin' up Good Morning Miss Bliss after The Facts of Life was cancelled and The Disney Channel picked up the show and then, NBC picked up the show and was retooled to Saved by the Bell

I use to watch SBTB back in the day and even TBS & WGN aired'em in reruns, but now, I don't hardly watch it anymore as I thought that the show is overrated (along with The Cosby Show)

another BIG Mess-Up was lettin' Saved by the Bell lasted as long as it did even after 1993 with The College Years which lasted only 1 season thanks to Warren Littlefield putting the show on Prime Time on Tuesday Nights competing against Full House & Rescue 911 and then adding The New Class which aired for 7 seasons was another big mistake

I mean, Season 1 was more like a clone to the Original Series and then, when The New Class was renewed for a 2nd Season, Screech returns to Bayside and becomes the Administrative Assistant to Mr. Belding and they turned Screech & Belding into more of a Modern Day Laurel & Hardy

Not to mention, they were changing too many characters

also, the same thing can be said about Hang Time

I enjoyed the very 1st season, it was the best, but then, when Peter Engel producer of Saved by the Bell, California Dreams and City Guys took over as Executive Producer, they introduced us to the Stadium and the Basketball Jerseys have changed

Even though Season 2 was cool, Season 3 was okay, but not the best, Season 4 I liked better than Season 3 mainly b/c of Rico, Hammer & Silk, but the last 2 seasons was HORRIBLE

Plus, the show Jumped the Shark if you will when Reggie Theus left the show and was replaced by Dick Butkus

Plus, I wasn't sold on Michael Manning being hooked up with Julie Connor, after they broke up, I was SO happy about it, but then by Season 5, they got back together....BIG MISTAKE

Not to mention, they wrote off Amy Wright and Josh Sanders as like they didn't exist

Special thanks to Dan Fogelman for "This Is Us." :)i agree its a great show that i rarely miss ether by watching by watching it live or on demand streaming

i agree its a great show that i rarely miss ether by watching by watching it live or on demand streaming

I record it when I have to. :)

Is it a tad bit extreme to suggest that NBC seriously needs a change in leadership across the board? I mean from protecting Bill Cosby, to withholding the Access Hollywood tapes, the Brian Williams debacle, rejecting Ronan Farrow's harassment piece and now Matt Lauer. These things have happened under multiple presidents and CEOs. There is clearly a cultural issue that needs to be addressed.

Turning Dateline into a reality show on how to catch predators

Turning Dateline into a reality show on how to catch predators

You bet-- not only that, but that's all that Dateline is about these days: crime, crime, and more crime!

Turning Dateline into a reality show on how to catch predators

Agreed.

Getting rid of Sherwood and Lloyd Schwartz as showrunners forHarper Valley PTA

NBC should've picked up the proposed Facts Of Life follow-up show. NBC would've renewed FoL for season 10 but two of the leads were exiting. FoL got a second wind in the mid-80s and was still a solid performer in season 9. They could've paired the show on Fridays with the proposed Jackee spin-off of 227. Sonny Spoon would've had a better shot at 10pm after Miami Vice.

Ironically, I saw The Jackee pilot last night. I don't think it would have made it.

Scheduling Let's Make a Deal 2003 opposite American Idol on Tuesday nights. Instead of scheduling it on Saturday nights as originally planned.

Not at all the greatest disasters, but it's early in the morning...

**The 9:30/8:30 central time-slot is my choice.

And all those post "Cheers"/"Seinfeld" flops that spanned decades.

And then:

Cancelling "Jag" and "Baywatch".

While renewing:

"The John Larroquette Show (for a 4th season) and the "The Mommies" (for a second)".

Tinkering with "The Tonight Show" and "Today". Both adjusted nicely but a gate was crept open for major competition.

Also of note:

**"Supertrain"and all those Silverman disasters from the late 70's.
**"Family Ties" moves to Sunday's and "A Different World" was born.
**Brian Williams.
**"Sanford Arms" (Sanford).
**"After the original series ended..." via Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Girls) = NBC cancels "The Golden Girls".
**"ER" syndication deal.

I agree about Family Ties move to Sunday's. Also, here is a review of what I previously said

- Expanding the today show to three hours and eventually four.

- Stepping in while Jimmy Connors auditioned to host daytime Wheel (after Pat left) and asking him to work in the sports department instead of allowing him to do both

Some of NBC's screw-ups were beyond its control. How about all those sporting events affected by other events (the 1980 Moscow Olympics boycott, the hostages released from Iran, President Reagan's shooting, which coincided with, respectively, NBC's broadcast rights for the 1980 Games, Super Bowl XV, and the NCAA championship) or the fact that 1980 was the year it was NBC's turn to host the Emmys and no one showed up because of a long, long actors' strike?

I agree about Family Ties move to Sunday's. Also, here is a review of what I previously said

- Expanding the today show to three hours and eventually four.

- Stepping in while Jimmy Connors auditioned to host daytime Wheel (after Pat left) and asking him to work in the sports department instead of allowing him to do both

Family Ties movin' to Sunday was a BIG TIME Mess-Up, the show didn't stand a chance against Prime Time's #1 Drama in Murder She Wrote

MSNBC interrupting Rachel Maddow talking about our rights being taking away or something for Breaking News about Justin Bieber!

Family Ties movin' to Sunday was a BIG TIME Mess-Up, the show didn't stand a chance against Prime Time's #1 Drama in Murder She Wroteo

They could've expanded the Wednesday 9-10 pm comedy hour to a two-hour 8-10pm block with Unsolved Mysteries on Sundays. Generally speaking, sitcoms tend to work better in two-hour blocks.

Ironically, I saw The Jackee pilot last night. I don't think it would have made it.

It should've been on FOX, IMO

I could picture that network pickin' up the show like they did its sister series Women in Prison & Married....with Children

and plus, I don't think that NBC had too much faith in Jackee'

It should've been on FOX, IMO

I could picture that network pickin' up the show like they did its sister series Women in Prison & Married....with Children

and plus, I don't think that NBC had too much faith in Jackee'


But then again, maybe 227 should have been on Fox. Did you know that 227 was going to premiere during the 1986-87 season but was pushed back early due to Marla Gibbs' availability after The Jeffersons got canned?

Family Ties movin' to Sunday was a BIG TIME Mess-Up, the show didn't stand a chance against Prime Time's #1 Drama in Murder She Wrote


That was when the show jumped the shark. FT was doing so well on NBC's Thursday's Night Lineup on must see TV.

Passing on Roseanne

Personally, it belongs on ABC any way. ABC passed on Fuller House, they didn't want to make that same mistake again.

Also passing on Coach

-Expanding the today show to three hours

-cancelling Twenty One in 2000

-stepping in and luring Jimmy Connors away from hosting Daytime Wheel after Pat Sajak left

-not allowing GSN to rerun Concentration

That was when the show jumped the shark. FT was doing so well on NBC's Thursday's Night Lineup on must see TV.

Didn't NBC move Family Ties to Sunday nights to appease Bill Cosby (who was NBC's biggest star at that point), who was launching A Different World (a spin-off of The Cosby Show starring Lisa Bonet)?

Didn't NBC move Family Ties to Sunday nights to appease Bill Cosby (who was NBC's biggest star at that point), who was launching A Different World (a spin-off of The Cosby Show starring Lisa Bonet)?
Yes, they needed the room. Likewise, the post-Cheers slot was given to the producers of Cheers for Wings.

Here's another one

Cancelling GO & Hot Potato (even though it was in the Noon Time Slot)

I would've prefer puttin' Game Shows in the afternoon just like they did The Hollywood Squares, Fantasy & The Match Game-Hollywood Squares Hour

when Jeff Zucker order more reality shows than sitcoms for 2004-05 after losing "Friends and "Frasier," saying that reality shows provided more comedy :eek:

when Jeff Zucker order more reality shows than sitcoms for 2004-05 after losing "Friends and "Frasier," saying that reality shows provided more comedy :eek:jeff zucker was /is an idiot

jeff zucker was /is an idiot

Absolutely!

Report: NBC's $69 million "bet" on Megyn Kelly is "backfiring" (https://www.mediaite.com/tv/new-report-details-nbcs-69-million-gamble-on-megyn-kellys-show-is-bruising-other-nbc-shows/)
The former Fox News star was brought in to bring a bigger audience to Today (http://forums.previously.tv/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/?page=33), but has instead "dragged down" the "critical franchise," according to an article (http://www.wsj.com/articles/nbc-bet-69-million-on-megyn-kellythen-viewers-vanished-1524667220) in this morning's Wall Street Journal. The Journal reports that affiliates are unhappy with the ratings drop and NBC staffers are "grumbling" about Kelly's "lofty budget." Still, NBC News says Megyn Kelly Today is profitable. For her part, Kelly says "our show is a baby. We’re six months old," adding: “I need to introduce myself to people who don’t know me or know some bastardized version of me that they’ve gotten from a website or a TV show. There are definitely some who only know me through some caricature they learned about on The Daily Show.” ALSO: 9 a.m. Today predecessors Al Roker and Tamron Hall earned less than half of Kelly's salary and had much better ratings. (https://jezebel.com/megyn-kellys-paycheck-is-reportedly-bigger-than-tamron-1825534048)

Cancelling freaks and geeks

Cancelling freaks and geeks

YES!

YES!

They should have kept it! It was refeshing and real!

They should have kept it! It was refeshing and real!

It was about the least popular kids in high school and canceled by guys who must have been Big Men On Campus!

The big mistakes made by many networks is moving a show around different time slots with notifying it audience of the change! Rating drop and then blame it on the show!

NBC News' many problems aren't just a coincidence -- they're symptoms (https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/all-the-problems-at-nbc-news-arent-just-coincidence-theyre-symptoms/2018/05/11/71c817e8-5464-11e8-9c91-7dab596e8252_story.html)
Matt Lauer (https://www.fastcompany.com/40501647/6-times-matt-lauer-behaved-like-a-dirtbag), Brian Williams, Tom Brokaw, Joy Reid, Ronan Farrow, Hugh Hewitt (http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/msnbc-hugh-hewitt-epa-scott-pruitt-20180509.html) -- and even the Megyn Kelly debacle (https://twitter.com/moryan/status/996046009028567042) -- are all symptoms of a larger problem. As Margaret Sullivan put it, "the network’s credibility is on the line. To critics it would seem that network leadership isn’t taking that seriously enough, believing perhaps that the public is mostly unaware, and that advertisers don’t mind. But a news organization’s reputation builds — or fades — over time. Does NBC really want to be seen as a place where stars are protected too vigorously, and where ratings and profits reign supreme? Given NBC’s prominence, its foibles hurt not only the network itself, its own journalists, and its viewers. Such self-sabotage also hurts American journalism overall at a time when there are more than enough external enemies waiting to pounce."

Cancelling rise

Cancelling riseNot really. Rise inherited the slot where This is Us did so well and did a whole lot worse. It dropped from The Voice, then Chicago Med built on it, which is a sign of NBC viewers abandoning Rise like a plague. I watched the Rise pilot and wasn't impressed, not nearly as good as Glee's first season, which itself was nowhere near the level of Fame.

Not really. Rise inherited the slot where This is Us did so well and did a whole lot worse. It dropped from The Voice, then Chicago Med built on it, which is a sign of NBC viewers abandoning Rise like a plague. I watched the Rise pilot and wasn't impressed, not nearly as good as Glee's first season, which itself was nowhere near the level of Fame.


I happened to like Rise.

Their new schedule is utter crap. Moving the Chicagos all to Wednesday is about the only move that makes sense. Thursday will continue to be DOA, and NBC continues with 'event' dramas Mondays after The Voice. A strategy that hasn't worked for them in the past.

Instead of multi-cam Abby's, NBC pairs W&G with single-cam dramedy I feel Bad. W&G was paired with single-cams all last season--IT DOESN'T WORK!

Not moving Wheel to 10:00 AM after CBS moved TPIR to 10:00. When TPIR expanded to an hour, TPIR aired at 10:30 right after Gambit the same time as Wheel. So CBS put TPIR at 10:00 and Gambit at 11:00. So by the time Wheel started viewers would be enconsed with TPIR.

-Failing to hire Peter Marshall as host of Match Game-Hollywood Squares Hour

- Cancelling Twenty-One in 2000

NBC News' many problems aren't just a coincidence -- they're symptoms (https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/all-the-problems-at-nbc-news-arent-just-coincidence-theyre-symptoms/2018/05/11/71c817e8-5464-11e8-9c91-7dab596e8252_story.html)
Matt Lauer (https://www.fastcompany.com/40501647/6-times-matt-lauer-behaved-like-a-dirtbag), Brian Williams, Tom Brokaw, Joy Reid, Ronan Farrow, Hugh Hewitt (http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/msnbc-hugh-hewitt-epa-scott-pruitt-20180509.html) -- and even the Megyn Kelly debacle (https://twitter.com/moryan/status/996046009028567042) -- are all symptoms of a larger problem. As Margaret Sullivan put it, "the network’s credibility is on the line. To critics it would seem that network leadership isn’t taking that seriously enough, believing perhaps that the public is mostly unaware, and that advertisers don’t mind. But a news organization’s reputation builds — or fades — over time. Does NBC really want to be seen as a place where stars are protected too vigorously, and where ratings and profits reign supreme? Given NBC’s prominence, its foibles hurt not only the network itself, its own journalists, and its viewers. Such self-sabotage also hurts American journalism overall at a time when there are more than enough external enemies waiting to pounce."

https://splinternews.com/the-shame-of-nbc-news-1830021122?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral

One of the more bizarre twists in the ongoing story of Megyn Kelly (https://www.tvtattle.com/topic/Megyn-Kelly-pKXf5E)’s ignominious exit from NBC News was the report that Kelly’s lawyer demanded to NBC executives that Ronan Farrow be present when the two sides meet about Kelly’s departure.

This is not going to happen, obviously. Farrow is not some magical avatar of justice who can be deployed by anyone at any time, and NBC is surely not in the business of letting random people attend highly sensitive contractual negotiations. But it’s grimly appropriate that Farrow and Kelly are now being linked together, because they are the two people who most symbolize both the rot at the heart of NBC News and the catastrophic failures of its chairman, Andrew Lack.

Let’s just go through some of them.

It was Lack who led the push to bring Kelly on; who threw a reported $69 million at her; who ignored her well-documented history of racism; and who shoved two well-liked, successful black hosts aside for a morning show that nobody with any grip on sanity thought was a good idea.

It was also Lack whose network reportedly threw up so many barriers to Farrow’s #MeToo reporting—for reasons that have never made any legitimate sense—that Farrow walked out the door. His former producer called it “a massive breach of journalistic integrity” and said that NBC had ordered him to “stand down” on his reporting about Harvey Weinstein. (The network denies this.)

It was also Lack who presided over the sordid boys club which produced a series of powerful alleged sexual harassers, including Matt Lauer and Tom Brokaw, and who has been accused of repeatedly letting sexual harassment slide at companies he oversees, a charge he denies. (The one thing that rings true about Kelly’s version of her time at NBC is that she’s partially being punished for her relatively merciless coverage of the network’s sexual harassment scandals.)

It was also Lack whose network sat on Donald Trump’s Access Hollywood tape—a tape from an NBC show!—for so long that it lost its own scoop.

To sum up: NBC News decided that it wanted to spend tens of millions of dollars on a racist Fox News host. At the same time, it decided that it didn’t want to produce historically important journalism on sexual harassment and assault at the same time as it was employing people with a rampant history of alleged sexual misconduct. And it couldn’t even beat its competitors on a major story about footage it owned. I haven’t even mentioned its continued employment of Brian Williams, another Lack buddy.

This is a record of deep shame. It was a wonder that Lack, and NBC News President Noah Oppenheim, still had their jobs even before the Kelly crisis. It’s hard to see how they can look anyone who works for them in the eye, let alone carry on in their jobs, now that the Kelly situation has blown up in their faces so spectacularly.

Today firing Ann Curry. Made her cry too. I mean WTF Today, why. Beautiful, very professional, very attractive person and she gets the boot in favor for Matt Lauer.

Today firing Ann Curry. Made her cry too. I mean WTF Today, why. Beautiful, very professional, very attractive person and she gets the boot in favor for Matt Lauer.

That's sad, but karma eventually took care of Matt Lauer.

Putting Bluff City Law on Monday Nights at ten. Opposite The Good Doctor. Now, BCAl is struggling in the ratings. They should have put it on Tuesday nights between The Voice and This is Us.

I watched the Bluff City Law pilot and wasn't impressed at all. All Rise is a better legal drama on the same night. Bluff City Law shouldn't have made the fall schedule, several midseason ones like Lincoln, Zoey's Extraordinary Playlist, and Council of Dads would have been better. And This is Us is TV's highest rated drama, no way NBC would have sent it to 10:00. New Amsterdam should have moved to Fridays though so a new drama would air after This is Us Tuesdays at 10:00.

Here's another one

Cancelling Good Cop Shows

Private Eye a series from Miami Vice Creator Anthony Yerkovich starring Michael Woods and Josh Brolin son of James Brolin

Crime Story a series from Miami Vice Producer Michael Mann starring the late Dennis Farina

and THE Biggest Mistake was cancelling 2 Cop Shows from Law & Order and New York Undercover Creator and Producer Dick Wolf

Players Starring Ice-T and Mia Korf, personally I like his role on this series better than his role as Fin on Law & Order SVU

and also, cancelling Nasty Boys Starring Benjamin Bratt of Law & Order and the film Miss Congeniality and Dennis Franz of Hill Street Blues, Beverly Hills Buntz and NYPD Blue

The series was based on Real Life Cops

People were SO upset when NBC gave the show the axe and it even featured the debut of the logo Wolf Films

Check it out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A83sQmAnC-k

and also, here's a clip of the series promo of Nasty Boys Featuring Janet Jackson performing her 2nd consecutive Top 5 Pop Hit and her 2nd consecutive #1 Soul Hit "Nasty"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17cfzLVTsMU

Nasty Boys sucked and deserved to be canceled.

NBC has been around as a TV network for over 70 years. Mine from the 21st Century is
cancelling My Name is Earl.

NBC has been around as a TV network for over 70 years. Mine from the 21st Century is
cancelling My Name is Earl.

Were the ratings bad?

No NBC just didn't like or get the show

No NBC just didn't like or get the show

Not the first time this happened.

Same thing happened to Archie Bunker's Place in 1983.

Yeah I guess the notion of a kinder tolerant Archie was alien to the execs.

Yeah I guess the notion of a kinder tolerant Archie was alien to the execs.

What's even worse is that lower rated shows such as Alice and The Dukes Of Hazzard were renewed.

It was suspected that someone at the network was friends with a Warner Bros executive, which is why those shows weren't cancelled.

In all fairness, Archie was kind of tired at that point. It wasn't a bad show by any means, but the glory days had long since passed.

In speaking of tired they should've canned Different Strokes around 80.

No NBC just didn't like or get the showMy Name is Earl lasted 4 seasons and 96 episodes. If NBC didn't like the show it would have been cancelled a lot sooner, Earl would have had a very short leash if it aired on CBS or ABC instead and probably cancelled after one season.

True but at the time of MNIE's cancellation the network had new people at the helm and although it was still popular and did pretty good in the ratings it was canned due to these single digit IQ's not being able to comprehend a show with such clever and quirky humor that you'd actually have to use your noodle to actually get some of the jokes.

We always talk about mistakes, but NBC made some good moves in 1983, replacing Texas and The Doctors(soap operas), replacing them with the Jim Perry-helmed revival of Sale of the Century which lasted for 6.5 years. The 11:00 slot went back to Wheel of Fortune, till June of 89, and the second half of the timeslot that Texas had would be taken by Scrabble with Chuck Woolery.

Canceling Fame in 1983. If NBC News really wanted the 7pm timeslot on Sundays, then move Fame to 8pm.

NBC stopped airing daytime game shows in January 1994, what a mistake! the last one to air was "Caesar's Challenge"

CBS has been the leader in daytime for 30 years now, NBC's answer in recent years is to air 5 hours of the "Today Show" NO NO NO!!!!

I say bring back the game shows!

Here's my proposed schedule:

9 AM Local Programming
11 AM Days of Our Lives
1 PM Scrabble
1:30 PM Concentration
2 PM Twenty One
3 PM Local Programming

NBC stopped airing daytime game shows in January 1994, what a mistake! the last one to air was "Caesar's Challenge"

CBS has been the leader in daytime for 30 years now, NBC's answer in recent years is to air 5 hours of the "Today Show" NO NO NO!!!!

I say bring back the game shows!

Here's my proposed schedule:

9 AM Local Programming
11 AM Days of Our Lives
1 PM Scrabble
1:30 PM Concentration
2 PM Twenty One
3 PM Local Programming

I agree with ya about NBC Daytime

since 1994, they cancelled Caesars Challenge and later changed John & LeeZa from Hollywood to The Leeza Show, I guess NBC and/or Paramount wanted to go a different direction, Leeza went solo on her own Daytime Talk Show (sort of like Oprah) until 1999 and later moved to syndication during the 99/2000 Season

and BTW John & Leeza consist of 2 Co-Anchors from Entertainment Tonight and Entertainment This Week (now known as Entertainment Tonight Weekend) in John Tesh & Leeza Gibbons

When NBC changed the show to Leeza, Tesh continued on ET until his departure in 1996 and Leeza left ET to focus on her own Daytime Talk Show and then in 2000, that's when she joined Extra 20 years ago in the fall of 2000 when she replaced Maureen O'Boyle

and yes, The TODAY Show had a spin-off called Later TODAY with Jodi Applegate formally of Weekend TODAY, Asha Blake formally of ABC NEWS and the late Florence Hederson a Former TODAY Show Weathergirl and The Brady Bunch Fame and then in 2000, the show was cancelled and that's when NBC News expanded TODAY to 3 hours and then later to 4 Hours and now, with 5 Hours? Have Mercy Lord

Cancelling Bluff City Law and putting it in a lousy time slot

Cancelling Bluff City Law and putting it in a lousy time slotNBC gave Bluff City Law a good timeslot with a solid lead-in from The Voice. Zoey's Extraordinary Playlist was stuck with a weak lead-in, and Lincoln Rhyme: Hunt for the Bone Collector had to be a self starter leading off Fridays. I am not surprised Bluff City Law was cancelled, tried the pilot and it was really boring.

NBC gave Bluff City Law a good timeslot with a solid lead-in from The Voice. Zoey's Extraordinary Playlist was stuck with a weak lead-in, and Lincoln Rhyme: Hunt for the Bone Collector had to be a self starter leading off Fridays. I am not surprised Bluff City Law was cancelled, tried the pilot and it was really boring.



Nope it was not a good timeslot at all. It was opposite The Good Doctor on ABX. It should have been on Tuesday Nights between The voice and this is us.

I mean ABC

NBC gave Bluff City Law a good timeslot with a solid lead-in from The Voice. Zoey's Extraordinary Playlist was stuck with a weak lead-in, and Lincoln Rhyme: Hunt for the Bone Collector had to be a self starter leading off Fridays. I am not surprised Bluff City Law was cancelled, tried the pilot and it was really boring.i agree i thought that it stunk

Don't know if this was mentioned but I've read on various boards on "Emergency!" that it had good ratings when they canceled it in 1977. They claimed it was removed so they could pick up "The Bionic Woman." Don't know that logic to that but I can't imagine how Jack Webb must have felt because I've heard he was badly tempered and had a long relationship with the network.

Of course there were a few E! made for TV movies for the next 2 years I think having to do with honoring the contracts with Randolph Mantooth & Kevin Tighe.

The Torkelsons was a series from Michael Jacobs the Producer of My Two Dads, Where I Live, Disney & Jim Henson's Dinosaurs and Boy Meets World

The Torkelsons aired on NBC Saturday Nights during the 91/92 Season between the network's Saturday Night Juggernauts in The Golden Girls and Empty Nest

However, the folks @ NBC decided to retool the series and called it Almost Home

The entire series starred Connie Ray, Olivia Burnette, Lee Norris (later of Season 1's Boy Meets World) and Rachel Duncan

Almost Home also featured Jason Marsden of The Munsters Today and Eerie, Indiana and played J.T. Lambert's Best Friend and Dana Foster's boyfriend Rich Halke on Step By Step as Gregory Morgan, it also starred Perry King who played Det. Cody Allen on another NBC series Riptide as Brian Morgan and the late Brittany Murphy as Molly Morgan

The series was once again joined by Empty Nest and Nurses on NBC Saturday Nights, but the show saw the ratings drop to a BIG TIME LOW as it was in the the 100's and was also cancelled

That's another Mess-Up by NBC

The NFL games made it impossible for me to see The Torkelsons, besides, i was watching Life Goes On on ABC.

NBC Screwing 2 guys who hosted Late Night out of takin' over The Tonight Show

Warren Littlefield screwing David Letterman out of The Tonight Show for Jay Leno which is why he left the Peacock Network for The Eye Network known as CBS

Jeff Zucker screwing Conan O'Brien out of The Tonight Show after 7 months and bringing back Leno to The Tonight Show, but Thank GOD he went to TBS (formally known as the SuperStation)

Plus, Jeff Zucker putting The Jay Leno Show on Weeknights at 10/9 Central was RIDICULOUS!

and most of all, Joan Rivers being barred from The Tonight Show since the late 80's until Leno's retirement....again in 2014 after Rivers got a deal with FOX for her Late Night Talk Show which didn't last long, but Thank GOD she had her own Daytime Talk Show from 1989-1993 and even won a Daytime Emmy Award and the fallout between her and Carson was sad

Thank GOD for Jimmy Fallon bringing her BACK on The Tonight Show after the ban was LIFTED!

Ever since Carson stepped down from The Tonight Show in 1992, The Tonight Show Died, IMO

also, Howard Stern hates Leno

also, Howard Stern hates LenoHoward Stern is complete garbage. A loser like him hating Jay Leno says it all. :crazy:

NBC should've revamped Santa Barbara in 93 and not cancelled it. Especially since they didn't have a new third soap ready until Sunset Beach in 96.

Santa Barbara should've swapped with Another World at 2. AW never had success after moving out of the 3:00 hour in 1980. AW was a good soap in the mid 80s-early 90s but it lost most of its audience in 79 and 80 and never recovered. Plus Santa Barbara had hype going for it, it might've done better at 2 than at 3 against GH and GL which was still a strong performer until around 88/89.

NBC should've picked up the daytime adaptation of Scruples and paired it in an hour with the proposed daytime continuation of Flamingo Road. This pair could've hit the air after Texas was canned.

Speaking of AW, i still think it was wrong that Another World fired Alice Barrett because it needed to get rid of a "mid-level" actor to be able to afford a host of new actors. The other big mistake was Warren Littlefield screwing David Letterman out of The Tonight Show for Jay Leno.

Letting Night Court get renewed for a 9th season when it should’ve ended at Season 8.

Mann & Machine a series from Dick Wolf Co-Producer of Miami Vice and Creator & Producer of Nasty Boys, Law & Order, South Beach, New York Undercover and Players

The series starred Yancy Butler of TNT's Witchblace as Sgt. Eve Edison, a beautiful police officer who is also a sophisticated gynoid capable of learning and emotion. She is partnered with Det. Bobby Mann (David Andrews), a human officer who disdains robots. Rounding out the regular cast was S. Epatha Merkerson later of Law & Order and star of Pee-Wee's Playhouse as Capt. Claghorn, Mann and Edison's superior officer.

The series focused on Mann and Edison's criminal investigations in Los Angeles twenty years in the future. An ongoing subplot of the series focused on Eve's continuing education about what makes humans tick, and her ever-growing capacity for emotion, highlighted by the penultimate episode "Billion Dollar Baby" in which Eve is placed in charge of caring for an infant, activating unexpected maternal feelings.

Although Butler received good reviews for her performance in one of her first major roles, the series was criticized heavily, with many comparing it to a failed 1970s comedy series with a similar premise, Holmes & Yoyo. The series was pulled from NBC's schedule after only four episodes. The remaining five were aired in a burnoff as summertime filler.

The problem was that the show was up against another Universal Television Series

The Hit CBS Drama/Mystery Murder, She Wrote

Mann & Machine were certainly no match for Jessica Fletcher

NBC Screwing 2 guys who hosted Late Night out of takin' over The Tonight Show

Warren Littlefield screwing David Letterman out of The Tonight Show for Jay Leno which is why he left the Peacock Network for The Eye Network known as CBS

Jeff Zucker screwing Conan O'Brien out of The Tonight Show after 7 months and bringing back Leno to The Tonight Show, but Thank GOD he went to TBS (formally known as the SuperStation)

Plus, Jeff Zucker putting The Jay Leno Show on Weeknights at 10/9 Central was RIDICULOUS!

and most of all, Joan Rivers being barred from The Tonight Show since the late 80's until Leno's retirement....again in 2014 after Rivers got a deal with FOX for her Late Night Talk Show which didn't last long, but Thank GOD she had her own Daytime Talk Show from 1989-1993 and even won a Daytime Emmy Award and the fallout between her and Carson was sad

Thank GOD for Jimmy Fallon bringing her BACK on The Tonight Show after the ban was LIFTED!

Ever since Carson stepped down from The Tonight Show in 1992, The Tonight Show Died, IMO

also, Howard Stern hates Leno


Joan Rivers being barred from The Tonight Show was Carson's doing. It was John's fault in the first place. She betrayed him. And Howard Stern is a jerk.

NBC deciding to cancel LA Law at the last minute without giving it a proper finale.

Not giving Buck Rogers in the 25th century a proper sendoff although later on they did do MFTV movie titled The Return of Cain it still should've had a decent ending.

Not giving Buck Rogers in the 25th century a proper sendoff although later on they did do MFTV movie titled The Return of Cain it still should've had a decent ending.
I'll do you one better, I think the show should've had a third season. NBC was a cellar dweller they could of done it, trim some budget or at the very least do a season consisting of 3-4 telefilms.

Cancelling Bret Maverick and Flamingo Road in 82. Maverick got decent ratings. Flamingo had initial success, both shows were up against a powerhouse lineup on ABC. Flamingo Road was the closest NBC got to having their own megasoap like CBS and ABC.

Planning on the show Snit and pulling it at the eleventh hour because one of the characters was gay. But then again, NBC came a long way. 22 years later, Will and Grace premiered where one big the main characters is gay

I'll do you one better, I think the show should've had a third season. NBC was a cellar dweller they could of done it, trim some budget or at the very least do a season consisting of 3-4 telefilms.

They did one called The Return Of Cain which was good and I think giving the show a better budget and ditching the whole search for the 13th planet story would've improved the show.

Cancelling My Name is Earl!!!!

Cancelling My Name is Earl!!!!
That show was trash. Every week was the same plot, trying to make amends to someone he did wrong. Boring and Lame. Hate shows with limited flexibility in plot.

That show was trash. Every week was the same plot, trying to make amends to someone he did wrong. Boring and Lame. Hate shows with limited flexibility in plot.

I tried watching that show because I liked Jason Lee in the Kevin Smith movies, but I didn't last half a season.

Joan Rivers being barred from The Tonight Show was Carson's doing. It was John's fault in the first place. She betrayed him. And Howard Stern is a jerk.


It wasn't really Joan's fault. Joan and her manager (her husband Edgar) had gotten word from sources at NBC that she wasn't even on the short-list to replace Johnny when he retired and that in fact no woman was. In fact, she had gotten word that NBC had no plans for her after his retirement. So she and Edgar started looking for another job, and she got offered the show on Fox, and a huge salary to boost so why wouldn't she take it? She did call Johnny to inform him but he hung up on her and never spoke to her again.

Cancelling The Weakest Link

It wasn't really Joan's fault. Joan and her manager (her husband Edgar) had gotten word from sources at NBC that she wasn't even on the short-list to replace Johnny when he retired and that in fact no woman was. In fact, she had gotten word that NBC had no plans for her after his retirement. So she and Edgar started looking for another job, and she got offered the show on Fox, and a huge salary to boost so why wouldn't she take it? She did call Johnny to inform him but he hung up on her and never spoke to her again.

NBC was right not to have Joan succeed Johnny for the ratings would've been awful. Her Fox show bombed and Johnny got the last laugh. There's a difference between leaving to do their own thing versus leaving to be a direct competitor. Of course Johnny felt betrayed. And that Edgar was a piece of work he nearly killed her career before he killed himself.

NBC was right not to have Joan succeed Johnny for the ratings would've been awful. Her Fox show bombed and Johnny got the last laugh. There's a difference between leaving to do their own thing versus leaving to be a direct competitor. Of course Johnny felt betrayed. And that Edgar was a piece of work he nearly killed her career before he killed himself.

Joan Rivers' Talk Show may have failed on Late Night TV, but she certainly had success on Daytime in syndication and she even won a Daytime Emmy Award for Favorite Talk Show Host beating out the likes of the Fragul Gourmet, Sally, Donahue and even Oprah

and so, it all worked out

I think you mean Snip.

That's sad, but karma eventually took care of Matt Lauer.

Speaking of Today-

The hiring of Megyn Kelly and renaming the third hour as Megyn Kelly Today, and then her show fails, and then Comcast/NBC has to pay her a big sum to end the contract, is likely one of NBC's most biggest of recent mistakes.

But maybe NBC has succeeded with its current leads from them to accept low pay.

Savannah and Hoda become the leads - Savannah taking political stories and debates that Megyn probably would have handled, ratings are strong, even third hour rebounded, yet to my knowledge, none of the current Today staff gets Matt Lauer pay ($25 million a year before he got fired), or even Megyn Kelly pay.

For the Today show itself to be all about women and their inequities in the workforce against men, media in general on how Hollywood's female actors (since term actress is now politically incorrect) should make as much as their male counterparts, and we as an audience should take interest in this cause, NBC still won't pay the leading ladies of Today now Matt Lauer's pay.

Poor Hoda has to work and prove it. Work an extra shift at 10. Hoda acts likes she enjoys it with Kathie Lee or now Jenna, but it sends a strange message. That it is okay she takes in less than Matt did, while putting in more hours on Today.

Article was from 2018, but I doubt their salaries now, even combined, have risen to reach $25 million:
https://money.com/hoda-kotb-savanna-guthrie-today-show-salaries/

I've read even Robin Roberts at GMA makes more, much more than Hoda or Savannah.

The cancellation of Supertrain. NBC intentionally derailed the adventure-drama show before it had a chance to get up to speed. Had it continued it probably would have attracted major sponsors like Amtrak and shopping mall owners.

The cancellation probably set the interest in high speed trains a hundred years or more.

Even Joe Biden was disaapointed in the show's cancellation.

Feel bad for China joe NOT!

Speaking of Today-

The hiring of Megyn Kelly and renaming the third hour as Megyn Kelly Today, and then her show fails, and then Comcast/NBC has to pay her a big sum to end the contract, is likely one of NBC's most biggest of recent mistakes.

But maybe NBC has succeeded with its current leads from them to accept low pay.

Savannah and Hoda become the leads - Savannah taking political stories and debates that Megyn probably would have handled, ratings are strong, even third hour rebounded, yet to my knowledge, none of the current Today staff gets Matt Lauer pay ($25 million a year before he got fired), or even Megyn Kelly pay.

For the Today show itself to be all about women and their inequities in the workforce against men, media in general on how Hollywood's female actors (since term actress is now politically incorrect) should make as much as their male counterparts, and we as an audience should take interest in this cause, NBC still won't pay the leading ladies of Today now Matt Lauer's pay.

Poor Hoda has to work and prove it. Work an extra shift at 10. Hoda acts likes she enjoys it with Kathie Lee or now Jenna, but it sends a strange message. That it is okay she takes in less than Matt did, while putting in more hours on Today.

Article was from 2018, but I doubt their salaries now, even combined, have risen to reach $25 million:
https://money.com/hoda-kotb-savanna-guthrie-today-show-salaries/

I've read even Robin Roberts at GMA makes more, much more than Hoda or Savannah.

Remember the days where Frank McGee, Tom Brokaw or Bryant Gumbel were considered the "star" and handled most of the heavyweight interviews, much like David Hartman did on GMA. Remember that up till Diane Sawyer came to CBS, with a few exceptions like Barbara Walters when McGee died, the man would always open the show. That changed first when Hartman retired and Joan Lunden was given his role, shared with Charles Gibson. When Gumbel left, Katie Couric more or less filled his role at NBC.

Not picking up WKRP in Cincinnati when CBS cancelled it. It would have been perfect for Must See TV. Would have been a great lead-in to Cheers

Not picking up WKRP in Cincinnati when CBS cancelled it. It would have been perfect for Must See TV. Would have been a great lead-in to Cheers

Agreed, you'd think NBC in '82 would've been desperate too pick up as many scraps from other networks as possible. NBC also picked up Taxi that year which had more acclaim, plus I figure that picking up Taxi gave NBC "dibs" to pick up their new show Cheers.

Cancelling the first adaptation of from 1990. The pilot episode was considered by USA Today and The New York Post as the best Movie-to-TV spinoff since MASH

Not telling Jay Leno to . ..BUZZ OFF when he changed his mind about retiring AFTER they'd already hired Conan O' Brien instead of placating his tantrum and gutting five hours of network shows to cater to him!

Conan the horribly unfunny host never should have stolen the Tonight Show from Jay in the first place. The Jay Leno Show in primetime was wonderful, and so was his getting the Tonight Show back.

icecream,

Tomayto, tomahto re who we each think is funny. IMO, Leno is a hammy, smarmy hasbeen- and O'Brien is only marginally better.

However, Leno DID announce his retirement and, it seems helped pick O'Brien to succeed him so for him to throw a tantrum and change his mind AND for NBC to try to pull the rug out from under O'Brien (to say nothing of those performers, crews, producers, directors,etc of the five hours a week programs that got trashed for Leno's ego) REALLY stank!

Leno seems to have had a long history of faking being nice but backstabbing others on whims. I wouldn't trust him any further than I could throw a building.

I NEVER have watched anything Leno has starred in since that happened and never will.

At least NBC DID dump him from the 'Tonight Show' after four years of putting up with him after that stunt so he got some payback for what he pulled on all those folks (including O'Brien).

Jay did not pick Conan to succeed him, that was all NBC's doing. And it wasn't a true retirement either, like so many who have "resigned" he was really forced to by NBC.

NBC also screwed A Different World over during its last year. Basically, they were angry over the decision to devote the sixth season premiere to the then recent Los Angeles riots. NBC proceed to move ADW around the schedule on a whim (w/ hardly any real promotion). What didn't help was that Fox had Martin in the same Thursday night timeslot, which began to compete w/ ADW for the same target audience. After being a top 20 show for it's entire run (and top five rated show for the first four seasons), ADW slipped down to #71 in the Nielsen's.

After January, NBC put ADW on hiatus until May and aired four more episodes (around this time NBC placed it in I believe, the Saturday night and/or Friday night death-slot) after the intended series finale. There were even three more episodes (one that guest-starred Tupac Shakur, one that guest-starred Lena Horne, and finally, one that guest-starred Billy Dee Williams) that didn't air until in syndication.

I'm pretty sure that NBC had little use for ADW anyway since it's parent show, The Cosby Show, had ended its run the season prior. Plus, I'm willing to bet that NBC wanted to get out of the "black sitcom" business since The Cosby Show, Amen, and 227 had ended their respective runs in the past three years. Yeah, they still had The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air but every other sitcom w/ a predominately black cast during the '90s like Out All Night and In the House only lasted about a season on NBC.

And you want to know what made this worse? Programming reruns of Cheers on the Thursday lead-off slot after A Different World was pulled from the schedule in January. Just not excusable.:(

Frankly, NBC should've just kept A Different World on the Thursdays-at-8 slot for its entire 6th and final season instead of using stop-gap measures like wasting that timeslot on Cheers reruns (Cheers had announced the end of its run around that same time, no less).:mad: Maybe then, ADW's series finale would have attracted at least 20 million instead of just 9.6 million on a Saturday slot.

Burial, indeed.

At the time of A Different World's final season, Bill Cosby's true sleazy nature wasn't known to the general public. But I have wondered just how much NBC executives knew about it and covered for him because The Cosby Show was a smash hit and they didn't want to lose their ace performer. With A Different World not living up to par when moved to the leadoff slot to replace its parent show, maybe they quietly decided to burn it off. While Bill didn't star in it, he probably made money off A Different World simply from his creator title, especially when new episodes originally aired. which could be why three episodes never saw the light of day on NBC

-Not allowing Gene Rayburn to host the entire show of the Match Game-Hollywood Squares Hour. If they really wanted a second host they should have hired Peter Marshall. But instead they hired Jon Bauman

-bringing in guest hosts for Friday Night Videos when the show was better off without them. As a result of the guest hosts they had to shave off bits of the end of the videos for host banter.

I think you mean Snip.

Yes

NBC also screwed A Different World over during its last year. Basically, they were angry over the decision to devote the sixth season premiere to the then recent Los Angeles riots. NBC proceed to move ADW around the schedule on a whim (w/ hardly any real promotion). What didn't help was that Fox had Martin in the same Thursday night timeslot, which began to compete w/ ADW for the same target audience. After being a top 20 show for it's entire run (and top five rated show for the first four seasons), ADW slipped down to #71 in the Nielsen's.

After January, NBC put ADW on hiatus until May and aired four more episodes (around this time NBC placed it in I believe, the Saturday night and/or Friday night death-slot) after the intended series finale. There were even three more episodes (one that guest-starred Tupac Shakur, one that guest-starred Lena Horne, and finally, one that guest-starred Billy Dee Williams) that didn't air until in syndication.

I'm pretty sure that NBC had little use for ADW anyway since it's parent show, The Cosby Show, had ended its run the season prior. Plus, I'm willing to bet that NBC wanted to get out of the "black sitcom" business since The Cosby Show, Amen, and 227 had ended their respective runs in the past three years. Yeah, they still had The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air but every other sitcom w/ a predominately black cast during the '90s like Out All Night and In the House only lasted about a season on NBC.


ADW had run it's course anyway. The final season was not near as good.

Moving Miami Vice from 10 pm to 9pm and competing against Dallas.

Moving Mad about you to Sunday 8pm instead of Tuesday 8pm and forming comedy block with Frasier.

Here's another!

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nbc-ratings-beijing-winter-olympics_n_6212234ee4b0f93b2619b86b?fbclid=IwAR2ygnwVP_GGmaqwRjNqaa8doWQRmswQD-MSyiqhbjvA4etUFrfzAvyYFh8

1992 Olympics Triplecast

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympics_Triplecast

From Wikipedia:

“Several issues plagued the Triplecast.

Logistics
Cable providers took a lower profit cut than they normally do for pay-per-view events. A national center was also set up (1-800-OLYMPIC) to take calls, but it often had trouble telling if a viewer's cable system was participating. In January 1992, for instance, Chuck Dolan, head of Cablevision, tested the ordering system, which could not tell if his Cablevision Long Island system was carrying the Triplecast.[6]

Low uptake
The biggest issue with Triplecast was low uptake. NBC estimated two million people would subscribe to the programming.[7] But TripleCast projections were around 200,000-250,000, and the Pay-Per-View Update industry newsletter estimated only 125,000. Early reports of slow sales even inspired David Letterman, then still at NBC, to make jokes about the Triplecast.[7] Midway through the games, discounts were applied for one-day service and weekend packages were added. But the attempts to boost subscription largely failed. Another attempt to boost interest was made, by airing a three-way split screen of the TripleCast channels in hour-long blocks on CNBC, but with no audio.[8]

The final tally of Olympics Triplecast subscribers was 200,000.[9] It was enough of a flop that Chuck Dolan was already acknowledging by August 6 that "the public didn't find enough incremental value for the Triplecast over what they could get on NBC" and that "we blew it from an economic point of view." It also surfaced that research figures were enhanced. While one percent of surveyed viewers said they would "definitely" buy the TripleCast, that number was enhanced in press materials by adding those who declared they would "probably" buy the service.[10]

Cannibalizing the main coverage
The TripleCast service took a very austere, no-frills approach to broadcasting that included play-by-play and commentary, but few graphics and absolutely no feature stories or background vignettes. According to some TripleCast viewers, this made the main NBC coverage seem "schmaltzy and overproduced".[7] In addition, NBC's main coverage was denigrated to some extent, with Triplecast viewers knowing some results 10 hours or more before the events were aired on the main network.

Advertising
Original Triplecast advertising promoted that the service was "live with no interruptions" — though half of the broadcast day was a repeat. The New York City Consumer Affairs Department charged NBC and Cablevision with deception in advertising as a result.[4] Eventually, the parties settled, with NBC and Cablevision agreeing to clarify the advertising.[11] In addition, about 10 percent of NBC's 205 affiliates refused to run Triplecast advertising because they did not want to promote competition for their broadcast.[6]”

Moving Miami Vice from 10 pm to 9pm and competing against Dallas.

Moving Mad about you to Sunday 8pm instead of Tuesday 8pm and forming comedy block with Frasier.Mad About You ended up moving to Tuesdays anyway.