View Full Version : What if Edith could not escape from the rapist from her house


Neutronman67
04-25-2013, 07:32 AM
Would the episode be more emotional and depressing if edith bunker would not be able to escape from the rapist attacking her in her house ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KflQ5--uSY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGJRkTIZAmQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cVcLoAjqHw

Frump
04-25-2013, 01:39 PM
Would the episode be more emotional and depressing if edith bunker would not be able to escape from the rapist attacking her in her house ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KflQ5--uSY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGJRkTIZAmQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cVcLoAjqHw


Yeah that might have been a little TOO heavy for the show. I can immagine the aftermath would have been MUCH MUCH harder for Edith, and she was already in horrible condition after it happened as it was.

Mr. Drucker
04-25-2013, 02:05 PM
Once on "Facts of Life",Natalie was raped but you never saw the assailant you just heard her discuss the attack to Mrs.Garrett et. al after the fact.And yes,showing anymore of it probably would have gone a little beyond acceptable perameters,even for AITF.I think even today's standards and practices wouldn't allow much more if any.Maybe on a police/forensic show but even then...

shotzette
04-25-2013, 04:28 PM
Once on "Facts of Life",Natalie was raped but you never saw the assailant you just heard her discuss the attack to Mrs.Garrett et. al after the fact.And yes,showing anymore of it probably would have gone a little beyond acceptable perameters,even for AITF.I think even today's standards and practices wouldn't allow much more if any.Maybe on a police/forensic show but even then...

Actually, Natalie was "almost" raped. She was able to fight back and get away from her assailant. She still had a pretty intense case of PTSD however.

Frump
04-26-2013, 01:59 AM
This was one episode of AITF that scared me and made me cry.

It was really emotional when Edith finally gets away and runs in grabbing Archie.

Neutronman67
04-26-2013, 07:47 AM
I think Archie would have been mad if that happened to edith instead of her getting away from that jerk before he could do anything.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMGZHT6RwmM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oBRq_QhpuA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEG6sbIyVKQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82Aut0WrrhY

Yong Fang
04-26-2013, 09:22 AM
How did this get past the CBS censors?

Whose crazy idea was this in the first place? Some writer, "Het, let's do an episode where Edith gets sexually assaulted!" and not be chunked as a bad idea, but something that gets the green light. If I were a suit, I would have said no, this is a situation COMEDY.

The guy who was the actor who played the rapist was supposedly threatened as he was walking down the street because people cannot tell the difference between TV and reality. He's dead now (from cancer I think).

I have never found this episode to be appropriate. Everyone knows what rape is, and it could have been handled in a later time in a drama. I was a kid in the 1970's and watched this show with my parents, and what fun it was to tell little Johnny what rape is.

Frump
04-26-2013, 11:45 AM
How did this get past the CBS censors?

Whose crazy idea was this in the first place. Some writer, "Het, let's do an episode where Edith gets sexually assaulted!" and not be chunked as a bad idea, but something that gets the green light. If I were a suit, I would have said no, this is a situation COMEDY.

The guy who was the actor who played the rapist was supposedly threatened as he was walking down the street because people cannot tell the difference between TV and reality. He's dead now (from cancer I think).


Well AITF dealt more with real life issues than other shows. I've heard ppl say that AITF was the Roseanne of it's day.

Neutronman67
04-27-2013, 08:43 AM
Yeah people think the actors are just like the characters they play on a TV show what people dont no is the producers are to blame not the actors who are forced to play their parts for cash.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMGZHT6RwmM

Adamantium
04-27-2013, 10:30 AM
More depressing definitely. However, I believe it's more emotional the way it is. It's such a wonderful moment when Edith finally gets away from that guy. The emotion, to me, comes from that moment. If it didn't happen, it just would be a depressing episode that I think people would avoid in reruns.

If I had been in the audience, when Edith escaped, I'd have done a standing ovation, clapped as loud as I could and cheer as well.

Neutronman67
04-28-2013, 07:51 AM
The episode does seem right for a show like AITF this is a comedy not a drama show lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs0Pqm7TA6U

Hughsgirl
04-29-2013, 04:56 PM
Yes, AITF was a comedy, however, I feel this episode was no different from any other that they did in regards to doing stories that was "taboo" and IMO, that's what set them apart from the others of their time. This episode was done in a very real way and very well done IMO. If you all recall, earlier in the show, Gloria was groped while walking by a construction site. Sure, we didn't see it, but they showed the effects of it.

Neutronman67
04-30-2013, 07:28 AM
Every show in the 70's and 80's that was a comedy show had to have atleast a couple controversy episodes to teach the viewers a lesson about whats going on in the world everyday, People say this episode of AITF is the most disturbing episode of the series run.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F36tONrZeHs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtVahVom_Hk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RvVuI6hbhk

Hughsgirl
04-30-2013, 01:09 PM
Every show in the 70's and 80's that was a comedy show had to have atleast a couple controversy episodes to teach the viewers a lesson about whats going on in the world everyday, People say this episode of AITF is the most disturbing episode of the series run.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F36tONrZeHs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtVahVom_Hk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RvVuI6hbhk

As with anything it's all a matter of opinion. But it was disturbing because rape is disturbing - is it not?

Neutronman67
05-01-2013, 07:19 AM
.The scene would have been better if archie walked in the room and tried to fight the creepy rapist away before he could make a move on edith, we never new if archie was a fighter on AITF he could have been like the hero.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWb5fMPvSXs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHJYAWThx3M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b125NDff49A

Hughsgirl
05-01-2013, 10:00 AM
.The scene would have been better if archie walked in the room and tried to fight the creepy rapist away before he could make a move on edith, we never new if archie was a fighter on AITF he could have been like the hero.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWb5fMPvSXs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHJYAWThx3M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b125NDff49A

But IMO, that would have taken away from the powerful scene where Edith shoves the cake in the guy's face and gets away. That scene was awesome! Again, the way it was written was perfect.

BigManMike
05-01-2013, 05:20 PM
By the way this episode is airing tonight on Antenna TV.

Neutronman67
05-02-2013, 02:03 AM
Yeah but edith was nervous when she hit the creep in his face with the apple pie she could have missed him, edith looked pretty strong she got have punched the guy in the face and have him cry and run out the house its a TV show anything is possible in the television world hahaha lol

Coffeecup
05-04-2013, 07:48 PM
I didn't watch much tv in the 90's or 2000's but I wonder how this situation would have played out with a younger character. Say 20's something gal.

Neutronman67
05-05-2013, 04:40 PM
The 1990's and early 2000's were the best time to watch TV shows even the promo's and commercials were amazing, miss edith bunker should have locked her door before the creep could attack her their is a rule for people always lock your door.

visaman666
05-06-2013, 04:31 AM
Actually, Natalie was "almost" raped. She was able to fight back and get away from her assailant. She still had a pretty intense case of PTSD however.


Yes, and she was dressed up like Oliver Hardy when it happened. When I first saw that scene I felt sorry for the attacker. :(

visaman666
05-06-2013, 04:37 AM
I've heard ppl say that AITF was the Roseanne of it's day.


:rolleyes:

Neutronman67
05-06-2013, 07:50 AM
Not really Roseanne was not a controversy show mostly just poor family with everyday problems and Dan was not a bigot like archie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHE32dm7ME0

Jack1000
06-03-2013, 02:10 AM
Yeah but edith was nervous when she hit the creep in his face with the apple pie she could have missed him, edith looked pretty strong she got have punched the guy in the face and have him cry and run out the house its a TV show anything is possible in the television world hahaha lol

I believe it was a cake that Edith used to attack the rapist. One of the most emotional and powerful episodes ever done for a sitcom. This episode won awards, and was used at rape crisis centers for years according to TV Guide.

David Dukes played the rapist and was hated for the rest of his life after that episode. They even had to hire security in the audience I was told, so that people would not run up and attack Dukes when he was hurting Edith.

It is very hard to watch.

Jack

DVDLover
06-03-2013, 02:32 AM
Then she would have gotten raped

What a stupid question