View Full Version : Something seemed weird about the Davy Jones episode


TVFactFan
03-18-2013, 12:08 AM
I saw this episode this afternoon and when Davy Jones finally came to the house he asked Marcia to be his date and then she kisses him. Why was Marcia who was a teenage girl putting her lips on the face of a grown a$$ man?:lol: :lol: :lol:

Then Davy tells marcia..........."You can kiss me on this side too???:confused:


This was a ODD episode

Tweety
03-18-2013, 06:06 AM
Her idol had just asked her to be his date at the Prom. So she kissed him... it was just a peck...there was nothing passionate about it.

His comment "how about the flip side?" was just a silly little joke, and a reference to his being a recording star.

If HE was have kissed HER, that would have been weirder.

Frump
03-18-2013, 06:46 AM
True and I don't think they were as strict about things like that back then. I mean back then I think sometimes you saw older guys dating younger girls.

Just like when Marcia got infatucated with the dentist, she was fantasizing about MARRYING him. Patty Duke did the same thing with her doctor.

And as the above poster said, it was just as KISS.

What about all the young teen boys who kissed and got kissed by Carol Burnett on her show?

TVFactFan
03-18-2013, 09:13 AM
Her idol had just asked her to be his date at the Prom. So she kissed him... it was just a peck...there was nothing passionate about it.

His comment "how about the flip side?" was just a silly little joke, and a reference to his being a recording star.

If HE was have kissed HER, that would have been weirder.



Just seemed odd for a teen girl to be kissing a grown man who the cheek that she wasn;t related to-lol

I guess it's just me who found this episode creepy. Maybe a hug would have been better

*ROGER*
03-18-2013, 09:15 AM
If HE was have kissed HER, that would have been weirder.
That's true. If Davy Jones was the one who initiated the kiss, I would say he's a pervert. But Marcia was the one who kissed him and it was just a little peck.

TVFactFan
03-18-2013, 09:18 AM
That's true. If Davy Jones was the one who initiated the kiss, I would say he's a pervert. But Marcia was the one who kissed him and it was just a little peck.


I guess I never seen anything like that before-lol A grown male celebrity being KISSED not HUGGED by a teen girl:lol:

*ROGER*
03-18-2013, 09:20 AM
I guess I never seen anything like that before-lol A grown male celebrity being KISSED not HUGGED by a teen girl:lol:
She probably dreamed of kissing Davy Jones for a long time before she actually met him! :lol:

Mr. Drucker
03-18-2013, 02:42 PM
"The Brady Bunch" was mostly harmless,bubblegum humor.In fact,this was the ingredient Robert Reed cited as reason for countless verbal brawls with producer Sherwood Schwartz.

AB
03-18-2013, 03:06 PM
Also Davy Jones seemed more like a teenager himself than a grown man back then, so it didn't come off as such a big deal. Now if she'd kissed someone like Mick Jagger or Jim Morrison that would have been weird for a girl her age. But Davy Jones seemed pretty harmless.

Mr. Drucker
03-18-2013, 03:29 PM
And they called it puppy love......

Frump
03-18-2013, 08:18 PM
Just seemed odd for a teen girl to be kissing a grown man who the cheek that she wasn;t related to-lol

I guess it's just me who found this episode creepy. Maybe a hug would have been better


Did you find it creep when young teen guys kissed Carol Burnett?

TVFactFan
03-18-2013, 09:25 PM
Did you find it creep when young teen guys kissed Carol Burnett?


You know it's not the same when the man is the adult

MRPITT
03-18-2013, 09:39 PM
Just seemed odd for a teen girl to be kissing a grown man who the cheek that she wasn;t related to-lol

I guess it's just me who found this episode creepy. Maybe a hug would have been better

Seems like a hug is/could be creepier he would be putting his hands on her and squeezing her. I really dont see anything wrong with a peck on the cheek.

The Flying Dutchmans
03-19-2013, 12:24 AM
I agree that it wasn't bad. It was just a peck that's all. And, that was the 70s and people didn't frown at that sort of thing like they do now.

cleverfun3000
03-19-2013, 10:01 AM
It's that tired old double standard. Women can get away with physical contact with a man/ boy because hey, there are no such things as middlle aged female perverts!

MRPITT
03-19-2013, 10:10 AM
True and I don't think they were as strict about things like that back then.


I would have to say that girl from that Disney show Shake it Up on Dancing with the Stars is a bit more risky then Marcia giving Davy Jones a kiss on the cheek.

TVFactFan
03-19-2013, 07:55 PM
It's that tired old double standard. Women can get away with physical contact with a man/ boy because hey, there are no such things as middlle aged female perverts!


That's just how life is


A woman can compliment her girlfriend's 14 year old son and say how handsome he is

But if a man was to compliment his friend's 14 year old daughter it would sound creepy:lol: :lol:

Frump
03-20-2013, 09:57 AM
Yeah I thought that'd be the reason and I think double standards are ignorant.

I mean for God's sake this is 2013 not the dark ages, why can't ppl just be accepted for their personalities and not just their gender?

I believe if a woman is a pedophile she should do time for it the SAME as a man. I get so tired of seeing female teachers get away with stuff like that, but everyone wants to FRY a male teacher for doing the same thing.

I mean why should certain ppl get away with things just b/c of what they were born, if it's morally wrong it's WRONG reguardless of who is doing it.

As a radio personality pointed out, it's almost like it's a quadruple standard as far as this stuff goes. We have ONE rule for how we treat grown men for being innappropriate with young girls, then another rule for how we treat grown women for being inappropriate with young guys, THEN we have rules for how we treate grown women for being innappropriate with young girls and then another standard for how we treat grown men for being innappropriate with young guys.

It's like like certain young ppl's safty is more important than others based on their gender, and we should go harder on certain ppl for doing the exact same thing based on their gender.

Just b/c it's the way life is doesn't mean it's right, at one time slavery was the was life was but that wasn't right. So I call ignorant IGNORANT!

Sometimes it's good to question your beliefs and ask yourself WHY you believe the things you do.


It's like women in their 50s who like guys in their 20s are called cougers, but men in their 50s who like women in their 20s are called perverts, that's stupid too, same rule should apply to both.

Frump
03-20-2013, 10:04 AM
You know it's not the same when the man is the adult


Why is it not the same?

TVFactFan
03-20-2013, 07:48 PM
Yeah I thought that'd be the reason and I think double standards are ignorant.

I mean for God's sake this is 2013 not the dark ages, why can't ppl just be accepted for their personalities and not just their gender?

I believe if a woman is a pedophile she should do time for it the SAME as a man. I get so tired of seeing female teachers get away with stuff like that, but everyone wants to FRY a male teacher for doing the same thing.

I mean why should certain ppl get away with things just b/c of what they were born, if it's morally wrong it's WRONG reguardless of who is doing it.

As a radio personality pointed out, it's almost like it's a quadruple standard as far as this stuff goes. We have ONE rule for how we treat grown men for being innappropriate with young girls, then another rule for how we treat grown women for being inappropriate with young guys, THEN we have rules for how we treate grown women for being innappropriate with young girls and then another standard for how we treat grown men for being innappropriate with young guys.

It's like like certain young ppl's safty is more important than others based on their gender, and we should go harder on certain ppl for doing the exact same thing based on their gender.

Just b/c it's the way life is doesn't mean it's right, at one time slavery was the was life was but that wasn't right. So I call ignorant IGNORANT!

Sometimes it's good to question your beliefs and ask yourself WHY you believe the things you do.


It's like women in their 50s who like guys in their 20s are called cougers, but men in their 50s who like women in their 20s are called perverts, that's stupid too, same rule should apply to both.



I agree with everything you said but it's not going to change.

Tweety
03-20-2013, 10:05 PM
Yeah I thought that'd be the reason and I think double standards are ignorant.

I mean for God's sake this is 2013 not the dark ages, why can't ppl just be accepted for their personalities and not just their gender?

I believe if a woman is a pedophile she should do time for it the SAME as a man. I get so tired of seeing female teachers get away with stuff like that, but everyone wants to FRY a male teacher for doing the same thing.

I mean why should certain ppl get away with things just b/c of what they were born, if it's morally wrong it's WRONG reguardless of who is doing it.

As a radio personality pointed out, it's almost like it's a quadruple standard as far as this stuff goes. We have ONE rule for how we treat grown men for being innappropriate with young girls, then another rule for how we treat grown women for being inappropriate with young guys, THEN we have rules for how we treate grown women for being innappropriate with young girls and then another standard for how we treat grown men for being innappropriate with young guys.

It's like like certain young ppl's safty is more important than others based on their gender, and we should go harder on certain ppl for doing the exact same thing based on their gender.

Just b/c it's the way life is doesn't mean it's right, at one time slavery was the was life was but that wasn't right. So I call ignorant IGNORANT!

Sometimes it's good to question your beliefs and ask yourself WHY you believe the things you do.


It's like women in their 50s who like guys in their 20s are called cougers, but men in their 50s who like women in their 20s are called perverts, that's stupid too, same rule should apply to both.

Excellent points, there's definitely a double standard.

I believe it's because of the fairly wide-spread perception that men are predators who are only interested in having (censored)ual relations with women... not only with women, but with every woman we meet.

Therefore, if an adult female teacher seduces a male student, even if the student is underage, most people think that the student HAS to like what happened, especially if the teacher is considered to be attractive.

In fact, we'll hear comments from grown men who say "where were the teachers like that when I was a kid?", not understanding that a kid can be traumatized after an experience like that.

And you're also correct in saying that no one person's life or safety is worth any more (or less) than another's.

Frump
03-21-2013, 02:15 AM
Thanks,

Yeah and I like how this radio host pointed out its a quadruple standard.

It's like if a female teacher is innapropriate with a female student, they will go EASIER on her than they would a male teacher who is innappropriate with a female student, BUT they might go a littler harder on her than they would a female teacher who's innappropriate with a male student.

It has to do with WHOME is commiting the crime and who the crime is being commited on.

In the above e.g.

Since it's not as offensive when it's a woman commiting the crime they'd go easier on her in that aspect, HOWEVER since girls being violated is more offensive than guys being violated they'd go harder on her in that aspect.

This is why a female teacher seducing a male student is looked at as the most harmless.

Tweety
03-25-2013, 09:53 PM
Thanks,

Yeah and I like how this radio host pointed out its a quadruple standard.

It's like if a female teacher is innapropriate with a female student, they will go EASIER on her than they would a male teacher who is innappropriate with a female student, BUT they might go a littler harder on her than they would a female teacher who's innappropriate with a male student.

It has to do with WHOME is commiting the crime and who the crime is being commited on.

In the above e.g.

Since it's not as offensive when it's a woman commiting the crime they'd go easier on her in that aspect, HOWEVER since girls being violated is more offensive than guys being violated they'd go harder on her in that aspect.

This is why a female teacher seducing a male student is looked at as the most harmless.


In a way, this and a couple of your previous comments in this thread kind of swerved into an area that bugs me (and bugs a lot of conservatives) and that is, the concept of "hate crimes".

IMO, "hate crimes" legislation is beyond ridiculous, because if something is a crime, it shouldn't matter who it's committed against. A crime is a crime.

If a white person kills a black person, that white person could be charged with a "hate crime" (which apparently is worse than just killing someone)... simply because the victim is black and the killer is white.

However, if a black person kills a white person under the exact same circumstances, that would NOT be a hate crime because the killer is black and the victim is white.

On the OTHER hand, if the white person killed in scenario #2 happens to be a homosexual, then guess what? It COULD be a hate crime...although if a black person kills a gay person, your guess would be as good as mine as to what would be charged.

That's why the so-called "Violence Against Women" act is so absurd. It's ALREADY illegal to commit violence against women... or against anyone else.

Liberals. Give me a break.

*ROGER*
03-26-2013, 12:04 AM
IMO, "hate crimes" legislation is beyond ridiculous, because if something is a crime, it shouldn't matter who it's committed against. A crime is a crime.

I agree with you about hate crimes. ALL crimes are inspired by hate. And by saying that a certain group of people (blacks, Asians, Hispanics, homosexuals, etc.) deserve special treatment is just segregating them even further. If a homosexual is murdered by a non-homosexual, it's considered a "hate crime." But what about when a white heterosexual is killed by another white heterosexual or a black heterosexual? That would not be considered a hate crime? That's ridiculous. It's still a hateful act. All crimes are hate crimes.

Frump
03-26-2013, 01:36 AM
I think the hate crime aspect is b/c there are certain groups that are MORE likely to have crimes committed on them, for e.g. if there's an effeminate gay man, he's more likely to get assaulted walking down a dark alley than a masculine "normal" man.

So I think the hate crime aspect is to let ppl know they BETTER think twice before assaulting a fem gay man, b/c if they do there will be hell to pay. It's just kinda a deturance for something that is more likely to happen.

I have to say I WAS glad to hear that we trans women are going to be protected under the violance against women act. I was just listening to Obama's Violance against women act and someone said it WOULD include transgendered women and lesbian women.

I NEVER knew there was even an issue with lesbian women not being protected.

But I know when it comes to us trans women we are expected to be bigger and stronger than MEN and we are expected to be able to defended ourselves even better than ordinary males can and expected to become the HULK and get this super hidden strength in a moment's notice lol

Schmoopie
03-26-2013, 01:56 AM
It's interesting how such a wonderful epsiode could spark such a discussion. This is by far my favorite Brady Bunch episode and I absolutely love it! If I were a teenage girl and a young Davy Jones came to my house and asked me to the Filmore Junior High prom, I'd kiss him on the cheek too!;) She was probably so happy that he cared enough to not only follow through with his promise to sing at her prom that she just went with her instincts.

Mr. Drucker
03-26-2013, 10:13 AM
Maureen McCormick even became a real life friend of Davy Jones.As far as "the kiss" is concerned,in the early seventies,one from a Monkee was probably deemed as good as one from an Ex-Beatle Beatle in the minds of MANY romantically developing teen girls.Of course today it would be Justin Timberlake or Justin Bieber.