View Full Version : Religious demoniations on TV


Frump
02-24-2013, 06:13 PM
It seems like on TV shows most ppl are either Presbytarian or Baptist, and sometimes you hear mention of the Methodist.

What I'm wondering is, on TV, HOW COME you never hear mention of the Church of Chirst as someone's church on TV?

I always found it funny b/c I would say Church of Christ is the 2nd largest denomination in the country, second to Bapitst which is the largest I think.

catlover79
02-24-2013, 06:37 PM
The now-defunct ABC soap, Ryan's Hope (1975-1989) focused on an Irish-American family, the Ryans, who owned a bar and were devout Catholics. At least the mother was a devout Catholic, who went to Mass every day. The grown kids were pretty much backsliders (extramarital affairs, kids out of wedlock, etc.).

Here's the mother figure of the show, the devout Irish Catholic wife and mother of five, Maeve Ryan (Helen Gallagher):

shotzette
02-24-2013, 09:17 PM
I always found it funny b/c I would say Church of Christ is the 2nd largest denomination in the country, second to Bapitst which is the largest I think.

No insult intended, but I have never heard of Church of Christ. Is it US based? Growing up, most of my friends were Catholic, with a few Lutherans and Jews thrown in.

I was raised Catholic, but my mom had a Jewish/Baptist background and was raised Southern Baptist. She converted to Catholicism when I was a kid.

I consider myself lucky to have grown up among different denominations and faiths. My family has always been open to other faiths and I'm always a little surprised/disappointed when I hear about so much infighting over religious minutiae.

Frump
02-24-2013, 10:12 PM
No insult intended, but I have never heard of Church of Christ. Is it US based? Growing up, most of my friends were Catholic, with a few Lutherans and Jews thrown in.

I was raised Catholic, but my mom had a Jewish/Baptist background and was raised Southern Baptist. She converted to Catholicism when I was a kid.

I consider myself lucky to have grown up among different denominations and faiths. My family has always been open to other faiths and I'm always a little surprised/disappointed when I hear about so much infighting over religious minutiae.


Yes Church of Christ is US bases, but I dunno, maybe it's more of a Southern demonination, nearly EVERYONE around here is that.

Chruch of Christ have the reputation of thinking they're the only ones going to heaven, and having NO music in the singing.

You mention Church of Christ to someone and most likely they will say, "Oh that church that thinks they're the only ones going to heaven?!" lol

Also Church of Christ is known for NO MUSIC ALLOWED in church!! To my knowledge, it's the only church that is VERY against having music in the church. They always made such a huge issue over it.

Mr. Television
02-24-2013, 10:26 PM
Yes Church of Christ is US bases, but I dunno, maybe it's more of a Southern demonination, nearly EVERYONE around here is that.

Chruch of Christ have the reputation of thinking they're the only ones going to heaven, and having NO music in the singing.

You mention Church of Christ to someone and most likely they will say, "Oh that church that thinks they're the only ones going to heaven?!" lol

Also Church of Christ is known for NO MUSIC ALLOWED in church!! To my knowledge, it's the only church that is VERY against having music in the church. They always made such a huge issue over it.
It sounds sort of like Jehovah's Witnesses.

*ROGER*
02-24-2013, 11:46 PM
It sounds sort of like Jehovah's Witnesses.
Another cult.

Frump
02-25-2013, 02:37 AM
No no, they are VERY against Jehova's Witnesses.

They are prolly most similar to the Baptist. Minus the music and their view on Baptism.

Church of Christ believe Baptism is ESSENCIAL to going to Heaven and without it there is no hope.

*ROGER*
02-25-2013, 03:33 AM
No no, they are VERY against Jehova's Witnesses.

They are prolly most similar to the Baptist. Minus the music and their view on Baptism.

Church of Christ believe Baptism is ESSENCIAL to going to Heaven and without it there is no hope.
All religions are cults.

loaferman
02-25-2013, 05:02 PM
All religions are cults.
Thank you for that sweeping generalization. The church of Christ that the poster speaks of is primarily southern in the USA, mainly out of Texas, Oklahoma, and that region. There are other groups that use the name in some form. They are not considered mainstream enough to be used much on TV, and religion is seldom shown on TV unless in a negative light, at least not Christian ones. The church the poster refers to believes that you must have absolutely no instrumental music, you must take communion every Sunday, and you must be baptized in the manner they prescribe precisely in order for it to be acceptable. If you were not baptized in order to be saved, they do not accept you as saved.

*ROGER*
02-25-2013, 05:04 PM
Thank you for that sweeping generalization.
You're welcome. :)

All organized religions are forms of cults because they share one ideal. And all religions have ceremonies of one kind or another (i.e. praying or the sacrament)

DJM77
02-25-2013, 06:31 PM
They are prolly most similar to the Baptist. Minus the music and their view on Baptism.


Baptists don't believe that they're the only ones going to heaven. I'm Baptist.

McGillicuddy
02-25-2013, 08:12 PM
It seems everyone is Catholic, on Days of Our Lives.

Frump
02-25-2013, 11:40 PM
Baptists don't believe that they're the only ones going to heaven. I'm Baptist.


Well minus that then, a lot in the Church of Christ DO have that attitude.

But honestly I think MOST ppl in all demominations in some way kinda feel that way, that they have it right and all otehr denominations have it wrong, or else there wouldn't be 500 different demoninations.

But I remember where I went to church the ppl getting VERY offended if they heard ppl refer to Church of Christ as a "denomination", b/c they asserted that they were THE Church, and would proudly say that other churches like Methodist, Baptist, Prysbytetian, Church of God, etc were merely denominations.

tiredmike59
02-25-2013, 11:55 PM
Well minus that then, a lot in the Church of Christ DO have that attitude.

But honestly I think MOST ppl in all demominations in some way kinda feel that way, that they have it right and all otehr denominations have it wrong, or else there wouldn't be 500 different demoninations.

But I remember where I went to church the ppl getting VERY offended if they heard ppl refer to Church of Christ as a "denomination", b/c they asserted that they were THE Church, and would proudly say that other churches like Methodist, Baptist, Prysbytetian, Church of God, etc were merely denominations.
I thought the only denominations a church cared about were 10s and 20s .

Prince Michael
02-26-2013, 01:01 AM
I used to have a friend who was a member of the Church of Christ, so I used to visit it with him . The members of the Church of Christ don't believe in anything unless it's mentioned in the Bible . By the same token, they run their church the way the first century church is depicted in the Bible .

I used to wonder why more characters on TV shows weren't more religious . The most likely answer is that TV writers aren't well -- informed on what various churches believe .

If you watched 7th Heaven, it was about a minister and his family who belonged to "a church" . They never pinned down which church he and his family belonged to . Reverend Camden believed in honesty, integrity, marital fidelity, and all those other good things, but he never talked much about his church's doctrine . The main reason why Reverend Camden's denomination or doctrine was never never mentioned was because the writers didn't know much about the doctrine of the typical church .

Most people probably figure "My church is fine, but there are a lot of other churches that are just as good !" . The reason why there are so many different demoninations is because somebody has enough imagination to decide what he thinks a church should be, so he has to start his own church and try his ideas out . All he has to do is get a few members, and you have a new church .

I strongly disagree with the claim "All religions are cults" . Organized religion might not be YOUR bottle of soda pop, but it means a lot to some people . I knew one woman who got really involved in her church after her husband died, so that church became her substitute family . One man I knew had a heart attack and had to sell his farm . He joined the men's service organization at my church, and it gave him a new lease on life . A lot of psychologists and philosophers believe people have a need to worship a higher power . The remark "All organized religions are forms of cults because they share one ideal ." doesn't make much sense .

Frump
02-26-2013, 03:23 PM
I know the Church of Christ has issues over things that most churches don't think about like, they've always had an issue with earing ppl say "my church", b/c they say it's not YOUR church, it's the Lord's church.

And they have a big issue with preachers being called "reverand", "pastor', and even minister. They only like the word PREACHER.

Thye say the Bible says to reverand no man, and a pastor is something else, and we are ALL supposed to me ministers.

Frump
02-26-2013, 07:12 PM
Another thing I find interesting about the Church of Christ is, they even take liberties.

For e.g. They assert that Jesus turned the water to GRAPE JUICE, not wine. Basically b/c most Church of Christ members are tee-totalers when it comes to drinking.

But they alter to be Bible to be MORE conservative rather than more liberal.

shotzette
02-26-2013, 07:53 PM
I thought the only denominations a church cared about were 10s and 20s .

Awesome, Tired Mike!

:lol:

MacLeaper
03-05-2013, 01:10 PM
That is a sad stereotype. Churches are not all about getting people's money. (Well, Christian churches in any case- I can't speak for others, but I would say that's generally true of most all churches and religions.)
For Christians, it's all about sharing the love of God with people and letting them know about the free salvation He offers through Jesus' death and Resurrection. All He wants is for us to trust Him and know Him as Savior, Lord and Friend.
Christians are commanded to love one another and we must truly reach out to everyone and help those in need- feed the poor, give water to the thirsty, clothe the naked, visit the prisoners, come and care for the sick and do it all in love. We are commanded to love God with all we've got and love our neighbor as ourselves. And we should speak the Truth in Love.
As far as The Church of Christ goes- they do hold to things that I would disagree with theologically. They are quite different than the Jehovah's Witnesses group- they are not Christians because they do not believe in the divinity of Christ. They believe Jesus is a created being by God, but not actually the same person as God.
The Church of Christ certainly believes that Jesus is the Son of God and they believe in His position as the Second Person of the Holy Trinity. (God The Father, God The Son and God The Holy Spirit.)
If anyone wants to read more on their beliefs, you can check out their site here (http://www.church-of-christ.org/)
Now the main thing I do differ with this denomination on is the insistence on being baptized in order to be saved. Jesus does say it is good to be baptized and we should do this in obedience to Christ, but The Bible never makes it a condition for being saved.
The best example of this would be the thief on the cross. He asked Jesus to remember him when He came into His kingdom (and the thief also acknowledged that he was being punished justly for crimes he had done but Jesus had done no wrong.)- Jesus told the thief that that day the thief would be with Him in Paradise! There was no time or way for the thief to get baptized- but obviously he made it to Heaven anyhow. (see Luke 23)
The Bible also warns about adding anything else to the requirements God has given for salvation- the only requirement is to believe in His Son- trust in Christ's death and Resurrection to pay for all our sins and follow Him as Lord. (see John 3:16-17 and Romans 10:8-13 and Galatians 1).
As far as Christians being represented on TV shows (and in a positive light), I find that to be pretty rare, unfortunately. I can't recall any Christ of Church members depicted on TV shows. I do know I generally seem to see Catholics depicted more than anything, but there are some other denominations seen.
From what I've read, it seems possible that the Camdens on "7th. Heaven" may be either nondenominational or Disciples of Christ (aka Church of Christ)- so that might be one of the few depictions of this denomination on TV.