Obviously there were a lot of unsolved murders/assaults on UM, but some of the cases are so old that even if the killer were never caught, they are likely to be deceased.

However, I think some cases have the possibility that the "bad guy" (or girl) is still out there, so to speak, roaming the streets or just living life.

The Jonbenet case, for instance: of course if you think her mother did it, we all know Patsy has passed away, but if it was her father or an intruder, then those individuals could still be out there, hangin' around and maybe even surfing sitcoms online(!)

Also the Scott Johnson case (two little boys killed in shed in Arizona in the 70s): if the killer or killers were teens at the time of incident, they could definitely still be out there, maybe behind you in line at a Phoenix wal-mart or something.

What other violent criminals do you think could still be roaming the streets?

The first criminal that comes to mind is the East Area rapist a.k.a. the original night stalker. It's eerie to think that this sicko could be anywhere in the US, or elsewhere. He could be married and have kids. Perhaps he continues to commit criminal acts.

The first criminal that comes to mind is the East Area rapist a.k.a. the original night stalker. It's eerie to think that this sicko could be anywhere in the US, or elsewhere. He could be married and have kids. Perhaps he continues to commit criminal acts.

This is definitely one of the most frustrating and chilling. Many have called him the most elusive and proficient criminal in history, and yet he is relatively unknown outside of California. I believe this has contributed to him having escaped justice this long. But his DNA is on the national database, one slip up could still get him caught if he is still alive. He was believed to be fairly young at the time, its estimated he'd be in his late 50's or early 60's today. I hope that he doesn't go down as another Jack the Ripper or Torso Slayer, a killer whose identity eludes law enforcement forever, but he just might. I think there has been petitions for Americas Most Wanted to do a segment on him.

Other Unsolves Mysteries notables who could still be out there who committed violent crimes:

Dub Wackerhagen
Brad Bishop
Boston Mall Rapist
I70 killer
Ohio trucker serial killer (Although I do believe Sean Patrick Goble may be responsible for a few of those)
Joe Maloney
Donald Webb
The trucker who ran down Jay Durham

Those are off the top of my head, I'm sure there are more I'm just not thinking of.

There's the Blind River rest stop killer. I can't even watch the UM segment, it gives me chills. The fact it happened in Canada and he hasn't been caught makes me angry.


The murder of Jonbenet Ramsey. Sadly, I don't think that will never be solved.

The Swedish hitchhikers murders.

Wendy Camp, her daughter Cynthia and her sister in law Lisa. Sadly, I think they're all dead and we will never know what happened to them. Of course, her ex husband family does. :mad:

How about the Long Island serial killer? He could've been the one who killed the prostitutes in Ohio or New Orleans, possibly even the Connecticut River victims but moved his operation.

The people who killed Jay Cook and Tanya Van Cuylenborg in WA, Megan Curl in TX, Matthew Chase in CA, Phillip Fraser in Canada...

Even the person(s) who killed Rachel Runyan in UT back in 82 could still be a danger to the public. The UM wiki site says there's an un-named possible suspect who's been released from custody after committing an unrelated crime. If that information is correct and he IS the killer, then that's a horrific murderer who really is still lurking out there. :eek:

Boston Mall Rapist

THIS. This case bothers me so much. I really hope this horrible person is already in custody for another crime or something because he has really scarred so many people for what he did. The interviews in that segment are so gut-wrenching. I think someone like this never stops so hopefully he has been halted in one for or another.

There's the Blind River rest stop killer. I can't even watch the UM segment, it gives me chills. The fact it happened in Canada and he hasn't been caught makes me angry.


The murder of Jonbenet Ramsey. Sadly, I don't think that will never be solved.

The Swedish hitchhikers murders.

Wendy Camp, her daughter Cynthia and her sister in law Lisa. Sadly, I think they're all dead and we will never know what happened to them. Of course, her ex husband family does. :mad:

Actually this case was discussed extensively awhile back and there was pretty good information to suggest that was Ronald Glenn West, who is in jail. Its not a certainty mind you, but he is a good suspect. So that one may not still be out there. West was known to be in the area at the time of those murders, and resembles the composite.

Here are a couple of links on this:
http://murderpedia.org/male.W/w/west-ronald-glen.htm

THIS. This case bothers me so much. I really hope this horrible person is already in custody for another crime or something because he has really scarred so many people for what he did. The interviews in that segment are so gut-wrenching. I think someone like this never stops so hopefully he has been halted in one for or another.

Whats even worse is that the statute of limitations has run out, so that guy can't be charged even if he was caught!

There should be no statute of limitations on rape, thats disgraceful in my opinion.

Actually this case was discussed extensively awhile back and there was pretty good information to suggest that was Ronald Glenn West, who is in jail. Its not a certainty mind you, but he is a good suspect. So that one may not still be out there. West was known to be in the area at the time of those murders, and resembles the composite.

Here are a couple of links on this:
http://murderpedia.org/male.W/w/west-ronald-glen.htm

:eek: Jc, he was a cop. No wonder he was able to get away with the crimes he did, he knew what to do and what not to do. :mad:

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Blind_River_Killer

The similarities between West and the composite drawing are eerie.

Wherever Gordon and Jacqueline are, I hope they're together and are at peace knowing the person who may have done this is locked up and will never hurt anyone again.

The Boston Strangler. Lots of information points to it being Albert DeSalvo but there are doubters. This was back in the 1960s.

The Zodiac killer from the same era in San Francisco. Arthur Lee Allen is strongly suspected of being the killer, who is now deceased, but nothing is set in stone.

The abductor of Nyleen Kay Marshall. Just a real creep, especially knowing the letters he wrote. You know, someone probably knows him very well as either a neighbour a co-worker or even a relative. They also would know Nyleen very well also because I believe she is alive. For all we know, Nyleen has a child of her own. You could literally have your child go to the same daycare as Nyleen's.

Johnny Gosch's abductor. Forget his loony mom who went off the deep end, as strange as this case is, at the end of the day SOMEONE abducted him.

Whats even worse is that the statute of limitations has run out, so that guy can't be charged even if he was caught!

There should be no statute of limitations on rape, thats disgraceful in my opinion.
That is horrible! I agree, a statute of limitations for that kind of crime is absolutely despicable. He could still be charged with the robberies, probably? But I think the rapes and violence are what he should really be paying for. Forget stolen money. He scarred and harmed innocent people and has no business out in the streets.

I also think some of the crimes that may have been committed by teenagers or young adults could see the killers roaming free even today:

-Ketrick Jordan case

-Russell Evans hit-and-run/whatever it was

-Whoever may have killed Keith Warren

-Jenny Pratt case

*I believe none of these are solved but I could be wrong

I also think some of the crimes that may have been committed by teenagers or young adults could see the killers roaming free even today:

-Ketrick Jordan case

-Russell Evans hit-and-run/whatever it was

-Whoever may have killed Keith Warren

-Jenny Pratt case

*I believe none of these are solved but I could be wrong

All those are unsolved except the Jordan family murders. They did name 2 suspects in the arson/murders but one is dead and the other I think is still in prison for an unrelated crime but either was never charged or was but was released.

The Boston Strangler. Lots of information points to it being Albert DeSalvo but there are doubters. This was back in the 1960s.
I thought DNA proved it wasn't him? Nonetheless, I would think there was someone else killing at the very least.

I thought DNA proved it wasn't him? Nonetheless, I would think there was someone else killing at the very least.

DNA proved it wasn't him who killed Mary Sullivan, who they think is a victim of the REAL strangler. They have never said if he killed the others or not. I strongly believe by my own reading that there was more than one strangler, all not interrelated.

I think the person who killed Tracey Kirkpatrick is probably still out there, sadly. I really wish he would get caught, not only for the sake of safety but to give her family some peace.


The person who shot Morris Davis during an orchestrated robbery setup.


Possibly Robert Fisher.



I think that EAR/ONS is either dead or unable to commit crimes any longer. I think Debbie's attacker is probably in jail for another crime. I think something may have happened to the Boston Rapist as well to cause him to be unable to commit attacks any longer. I really hope I'm correct because all of these people are sick individuals and a true danger to society.

I also definitely think the trucker who ran down Jay Durham is still out there.

I think the Boston mall rapist is probably dead, and I'm with WishfulDreamer on Debbie's attacker--I think he's incarcerated.

Victor Gerena

Mark Nichols. :mad:

Whoever killed Diana Robertson, Mike Riemer, Ruth Cooper, and Stephen Harkin is still at large.

Richard Bare (Sherry Hart's murderer) is probably living under an assumed identity, possibly the same with Michael Cline. Franklin Smith (Eileen Mangold's killer) was acquitted.

Possibly living regular lives: the killers of Judy Smith, Kathy Hobbs, Tom Roche, Megan Curl, Dwayne McCorkendale, Angela Hammond, Su Taraskiewicz, Niqui McCown, David Hurley, Richard Aderson, Michael Hunter, Deborah Poe, Elizabeth Campbell, Don Smith, Cindy Anderson, Jonathan Francia, Fathers Kerrigan and Rivera, Shane Stewart and Sally McNelly, Diane Shawcroft and Jennifer Lueth, Michael Johnston and Rochelle Robinson.

I'm curious what happened to Tyrom Theiss, Brad Bishop and Ann Sigmin after they fled - I don't necessarily feel that any of them are alive currently.

Michael Cline

Totally forgot about that guy. If anyone's "living a normal life" under an assumed identity, it's DEFINITELY Michael Lewis Cline.

Whoever kidnapped and presumably killed Angela Hammond is still running around free...I'm sure she wasn't the first nor the last person that this creep has gotten his evil paws on!!

Whoever kidnapped and presumably killed Angela Hammond is still running around free...I'm sure she wasn't the first nor the last person that this creep has gotten his evil paws on!!

Hey Mysteryphile, this is a little off topic but is that a Police sketch of the 1995 "Grateful Dead Concert" John Doe in your Avatar?

Hey Mysteryphile, this is a little off topic but is that a Police sketch of the 1995 "Grateful Dead Concert" John Doe in your Avatar?


Yes!! I was hoping someone might recognize him!

If I'm not mistaken, Randall Utterback hasn't been caught, has he?

Also, someone earlier mentioned Joe Maloney. He could possibly still be out there, but he would be 78 years old now, so I would say it's also fairly likely that he's dead.

I'm not sure what to make of Ann Sigmin being either dead or alive, but if she's alive, I have a feeling she'll never be caught, because her identity is, and always has been to some extent, the subject of debate. I can almost guarantee that she wouldn't still be using the name Ann Sigmin, and I don't know if this was truly unknown, or if UM just felt like they didn't need to mention it for whatever reason, but prior to marrying Charlie Sigmin, she was referred to simply as Ann. Her last name prior to that was never mentioned, so unless one of her kids or their father comes forward, I think her true identity may never be known.

I'm curious what happened to Tyrom Theiss, Brad Bishop and Ann Sigmin after they fled - I don't necessarily feel that any of them are alive currently.

Was on another message board not too long ago where the Tyrom Theiss case was discussed. Apparently, he was last seen bragging about his murders in a bar and about two or three of the patrons were reportedly following him after he left. It's suspected that Theis may have been the victim of some vigilante justice and that his body has never been found.

As for Ann Sigmin, I've always wondered if Garey Goff, the ex-cop she was on the run with, might have killed her before turning himself in and they've just never found her body.

Wendy Camp, her daughter Cynthia and her sister in law Lisa. Sadly, I think they're all dead and we will never know what happened to them. Of course, her ex husband family does. :mad:

Thankfully, you were wrong about us never knowing what happened to them.

Hopefully, LE will be able to make charges stick in this case.

As for Ann Sigmin, I've always wondered if Garey Goff, the ex-cop she was on the run with, might have killed her before turning himself in and they've just never found her body.

I think that makes a lot of sense. I wonder if he was ever investigated for it, in the midst of all that.


I think whatever individuals lowered Dave Bocks into that furnace are definitely out and about, and will probably never be identified nor prosecuted.

I think whatever individuals lowered Dave Bocks into that furnace are definitely out and about, and will probably never be identified nor prosecuted.

I agree unfortunately. Unless the NLO Scandal is somehow reinvestigated or blown open, I don't think we'll ever know who killed him.

It's frightening to the think that those two men who raped and tortured that woman in front of her son in Texas is still out there.

Original night stalker

Hi, I've been browsing this forum for a while now and finally decided to sign up. Always been a big fan of UM, and to this day I find myself reading up on cases whether they're solved or not.


As for this topic....


- Cowboy bandit (Spokane, Washington. There was a cowboy bandit arrested for robbing banks in Texas, but I don't know if he's the same guy)

- Victor Manuel Gerena (money heist, also featured on AMW, among FBI's Top 10 most wanted fugitives)

- Robert William Fisher (murdered his wife and 2 kids and then set the house on fire with them inside, also featured on AMW, among FBI's Top 10 most wanted)

- Jason Derek Brown (1st degree murder and armed robbery, don't think he was a UM segment but was still featured on AMW, FBI's Top 10 most wanted, various theories on his whereabouts such as hiding out in a Mormon community and living with a woman who may or may not know his real identity, or living in France or Thailand)

- Killer of Matt Flores (this case in particular still irks me because it makes no sense, and nothing concrete has ever been found with respect to leads or possible suspects...except for the white Ford Explorer on the parking lot surveillance camera)

Watching a doc on ear/ons right now. I hope he's caught.


Also the black widow in Mexico.