View Full Version : Mysterious phone calls in UM segments
SheRaaa 09-18-2012, 04:26 PM One thing that's a bit of a (welcome) UM cliche is the "mysterious/threatening phone call."
I just watched the Charlie Anderson segment for the first time and there was a mystery caller who claimed to have info., but who refused to have his voice recorded. The officers told him to call back on a different line, but the guy never called back.
There's also the infamous "Judy Himes is alive and lives in Omaha" calls, possibly the MOST mysterious of all UM's shadowy communications :cool:
I know there are many others!
*I did a search on this topic and nothing came up, so I apologize if this has been covered already!
RobinW 09-18-2012, 04:44 PM I just watched the Charlie Anderson segment for the first time and there was a mystery caller who claimed to have info., but who refused to have his voice recorded. The officers told him to call back on a different line, but the guy never called back.
I rewatched this and interestingly enough, I'm pretty sure I recognized UM producer John Cosgrove providing the voice of the caller in the re-enactment.
Maybe Mr. Cosgrove WAS the mystery caller all along, but just didn't want to tell us :lol:.
MegtheEgg86 09-18-2012, 05:28 PM Oh, tons. I think anonymous calls are one of the creepiest aspects of a segment. The ones that immediately come to mind are:
The "confession call" from "Don", who supposedly murdered Tracy Kirkpatrick.
The answering machine messages supposedly from Don Kemp.
Audrey Moate's ex-mother-in-law getting a phone call from someone claiming to be Audrey a few weeks after she disappeared.
Chance Wackerhagen's grandfather and the "Help me, help me!" call.
Chuck Morgan's wife and the cryptic call from "Green Eyes".
The Casie Nicole crew's families and those Spanish-English calls, speculated to be from someone in another country who knows what became of the missing.
L'Enfant.
1990 UM fan 09-18-2012, 05:58 PM The male who called in about Monika Rizzo's murder. I wonder if they ever found out who he is?
UMFaninMD 09-18-2012, 06:59 PM The woman who called Mary Ann Perez' family and told them she was in trouble.
The woman who called police about Cynthia Anderson's disappearance but wouldn't stay on long enough to give any real information. I think she called twice but didn't call back after that.
The calls from Cindy James' mysterious tormentor. The one that did get released for listening is downright frightening.
The man who called in about Jamie Santos not breathing. He's never been identified.
1990 UM fan 09-18-2012, 07:13 PM The man who called in about Jamie Santos not breathing. He's never been identified.
That one bothers me the most. It's been 21 years and he still hasn't been identified nor has anyone ever been charged with anything.
dynoguy88 09-18-2012, 11:39 PM The calls from Cindy James' mysterious tormentor. The one that did get released for listening is downright frightening.
6 1/2 years of phone calls. But technology in the 80's could only trace the calls back from districts in Vancouver and never an exact location in Vancouver.
Also, Chief Robert Hamerick's wife got a threatening phone call telling her husband to get out of town or else he was going to get hurt bad. Sure enough, he ended up dead within a few months.
XCalibur 09-19-2012, 12:30 AM 6 1/2 years of phone calls. But technology in the 80's could only trace the calls back from districts in Vancouver and never an exact location in Vancouver.
Also, Chief Robert Hamerick's wife got a threatening phone call telling her husband to get out of town or else he was going to get hurt bad. Sure enough, he ended up dead within a few months.
The segment about the Rock Creek Gang. What a bunch of lowlifes that was. Murdered him just because he stood up to them and their bullying.
Did the segment ever mention what happened to the gang or what happened in town after Hamerick was killed? I can't remember.
I hope those scumbags were stopped eventually and that town ultimately found peace even if they were never able to prove they killed Chief Hamrick. The segment never really said that I can remember though.
Necco 09-19-2012, 01:06 AM How is it possible that no one has mentioned the evil baby phone calls of L'Enfant?
1990 UM fan 09-19-2012, 05:37 AM How is it possible that no one has mentioned the evil baby phone calls of L'Enfant?
MegtheEgg86 did in her post on here. That kid's voice over the phone scared me as a kid. Still does. What became of the guy they were harassing?
soilentgreen 09-19-2012, 10:44 AM The 1979 phone call that claimed that Amy Billig was at a truck stop near Reno, Nevada.
The caller who said that Leonard Dirickson was at a bar in Amarillo.
The antagonistic (or so UM leads us to assume) call that Ron Gillispie received the night of his death.
The interesting tip that came in after Constable Scott Rossiter was killed during an altercation with David O'Neil; it lead them to a shallow grave, where O'Neil was found murdered.
TracyLynnS 09-19-2012, 10:46 AM In the Jay Cook & Tanya Van Cuylenborg case, mysterious phone calls weren't involved, but some nutter sent horrible letters/greeting cards to the parents of the murdered kids.
In Gary Grant Jr.'s murder, written messages were left on a cop car, a sidewalk, and maybe a building.
In Holly Krewson's case, someone called her mother, claiming to be Holly and saying she was in a hospital in Ohio. It was later determined that Holly was already dead at the time the calls were made so it was definitely a cruel hoax.
In the Circleville Letters case, someone actually sent a threatening letter to the people at UM.... the infamous "You El Sickos will pay!" warning. lol
dynoguy88 09-19-2012, 11:30 AM The segment about the Rock Creek Gang. What a bunch of lowlifes that was. Murdered him just because he stood up to them and their bullying.
Did the segment ever mention what happened to the gang or what happened in town after Hamrick was killed? I can't remember.
I hope those scumbags were stopped eventually and that town ultimately found peace even if they were never able to prove they killed Chief Hamrick. The segment never really said that I can remember though.
The segment never made any mention of whether the town was ever cleaned up of this gang after Hamrick's death. But those thugs getting away with murder like they did, I'm sure they probably thought they were invincible at that point. I really hate to think they went on to continue to terrorize the community for years and years.
I'll do some investigating online and see if there is any information.
TheCars1986 09-19-2012, 11:43 AM Even though it turned out to be a cruel hoax, the call into the loser DJ's on the segment "Confess Your Crime" was pretty creepy.
Necco 09-19-2012, 04:01 PM MegtheEgg86 did in her post on here. That kid's voice over the phone scared me as a kid. Still does. What became of the guy they were harassing?
So she did. I guess those commercials in the 1980s were right. Reading IS fundamental. Doh!
XCalibur 09-19-2012, 04:51 PM In the Jay Cook & Tanya Van Cuylenborg case, mysterious phone calls weren't involved, but some nutter sent horrible letters/greeting cards to the parents of the murdered kids.
Didn't they find the guy who was sending the greeting cards? It turned out not to be the killer, it was just some guy in Canada who supposedly had mental issues.
From what I understand the guy felt bad about it later and even tried to call Jay Cook's father to apologize but wasn't able to reach him.
Sick thing to do, but at least he tried to make amends.
To bad to date the killer hasn't been found.
XCalibur 09-19-2012, 05:02 PM The segment never made any mention of whether the town was ever cleaned up of this gang after Hamrick's death. But those thugs getting away with murder like they did, I'm sure they probably thought they were invincible at that point. I really hate to think they went on to continue to terrorize the community for years and years.
I'll do some investigating online and see if there is any information.
I kind of lean towards the feeling that they probably had to tone it down somewhat at least being suspected of murder. Although I don't know for sure.
Because terrorizing and bullying people is one thing, but you start killing people it a whole different ballgame.
This case reminds me a lot of a movie I saw once that was based on a true story. I can't remember the name of the movie but there was a guy named Len Roland who terrorized a town bullying people similar to how this gang did. He was just a large abusive guy who had a bunch of women and he and his family shot people's houses up and bullied them, it kind of peaked out when he shot this old guy and put him in the hospital. The sheriff's department was basically intimidated and would do nothing. Finally they had all had enough and eventually killed him. I remember Chris Cooper being in the movie seems like, but I don't remember the name of it, sound familiar?
Anyway my point was, you can only push people so far before they go angry mob and retaliate, most tyrants in history found that out. So my guess is the Rock Creek Gang had to tone it down eventually.
By all means anything you find out let us know though.
SheRaaa 09-19-2012, 05:49 PM I kind of lean towards the feeling that they probably had to tone it down somewhat at least being suspected of murder. Although I don't know for sure.
Because terrorizing and bullying people is one thing, but you start killing people it a whole different ballgame.
This case reminds me a lot of a movie I saw once that was based on a true story. I can't remember the name of the movie but there was a guy named Len Roland who terrorized a town bullying people similar to how this gang did. He was just a large abusive guy who had a bunch of women and he and his family shot people's houses up and bullied them, it kind of peaked out when he shot this old guy and put him in the hospital. The sheriff's department was basically intimidated and would do nothing. Finally they had all had enough and eventually killed him. I remember Chris Cooper being in the movie seems like, but I don't remember the name of it, sound familiar?
Anyway my point was, you can only push people so far before they go angry mob and retaliate, most tyrants in history found that out. So my guess is the Rock Creek Gang had to tone it down eventually.
By all means anything you find out let us know though.
The case you're thinking of may be the infamous Ken McElroy case out of Skidmore, Missouri...very interesting string of events!
sharonite 09-19-2012, 11:39 PM Not sure if this quite fits the original intent of the thread, but if you asked me, I think the ultimate "mysterious phone call" ever featured on UM would be the infamous unreleased 911 call from a certain case we're not allowed to discuss.
1990 UM fan 09-19-2012, 11:45 PM Not sure if this quite fits the original intent of the thread, but if you asked me, I think the ultimate "mysterious phone call" ever featured on UM would be the infamous unreleased 911 call from a certain case we're not allowed to discuss.
It's not mysterious when we know who made the "chilling call to 911". :happyface :crazy:
sharonite 09-20-2012, 12:06 AM It's not mysterious when we know who made the "chilling call to 911". :happyface :crazy:
True. I was referring to the contents of the call, not the caller.
1990 UM fan 09-20-2012, 12:32 AM True. I was referring to the contents of the call, not the caller.
oh, ok. I'd be too scared to even hear it, imagining what it would say.
WishfulDreamer 09-20-2012, 06:14 AM I agree. I am scared to hear that phone call, mainly because even the detective said it was chilling- my question is, was it made DURING the attack like she somehow was able to make the call or was the assailant coming like on his way up to her or something? That's what I'm curious about. But it is so creepy to think of the guy leering at her in the store right before this- was it him? Sorry, tangent on a case we're not suppose to talk about. That's just a call I'm curious about but don't want to hear.
justins5256 09-20-2012, 08:39 AM This case reminds me a lot of a movie I saw once that was based on a true story. I can't remember the name of the movie but there was a guy named Len Roland who terrorized a town bullying people similar to how this gang did. He was just a large abusive guy who had a bunch of women and he and his family shot people's houses up and bullied them, it kind of peaked out when he shot this old guy and put him in the hospital. The sheriff's department was basically intimidated and would do nothing. Finally they had all had enough and eventually killed him. I remember Chris Cooper being in the movie seems like, but I don't remember the name of it, sound familiar?
In Broad Daylight (1991) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102106/
It occasionally aired on Lifetime years ago. Brian Dennehy was the bully and did an awesome job.
MegtheEgg86 09-20-2012, 10:08 PM 1990 UM fan's avatar made me think of two from the same segment: the strange phone call Selena Edon made to her mother before she disappeared for good, and the "garbled message" she left on her friend's answering machine on New Year's.
I think someone already mentioned the Holly Krewson call that was supposed to have been made after she died, but that one comes to mind too.
What about those death threat calls made to Ed Baker? No one ever found out who was responsible for those or why they were made.
UMFaninMD 09-20-2012, 10:37 PM Another one is "Antonio's" call to police about witnessing Rebecca Young's murder. The call itself wasn't creepy, but played against the reenactment of the killing, it was pretty scary.
TracyLynnS 09-21-2012, 09:53 AM Didn't Cecilia Newball receive phone calls from someone who claimed to be preparing a baby shower for her husband Alfredo, at work? This person was asking to meet Cecilia so she could pick out a piece of baby furniture as a gift? IIRC, it was later determined there was no baby shower planned at all and they don't know who made the calls to Cecilia.
rhzunam 09-21-2012, 05:27 PM Iīm not good with the names of cases or pointing them out. Which was the one where a lady dissapeared and there was an answering machine message from a coworker asking her why she wasnīt at work but there was a problem with the timeline in the message?
thelesis 09-21-2012, 05:40 PM Not sure if this quite fits the original intent of the thread, but if you asked me, I think the ultimate "mysterious phone call" ever featured on UM would be the infamous unreleased 911 call from a certain case we're not allowed to discuss.
Wait, can you say the name of the case? I've been lurking a few years and don't know any banned cases - I don't want to discuss it, I just want to know what it is, lol.
UMFaninMD 09-21-2012, 05:51 PM Iīm not good with the names of cases or pointing them out. Which was the one where a lady dissapeared and there was an answering machine message from a coworker asking her why she wasnīt at work but there was a problem with the timeline in the message?
I'm pretty sure that was Debbie Wolfe.
charmedsignora 09-21-2012, 06:05 PM I remember the threatening phone calls that Officer Thompson received while working the night shift at the Frontera Prison infirmary. This was shortly after Terri Lucas died and Thompson didn't want to file the paperwork "in the proper manner." The caller told Thompson that she'd end up like Jessalyn Rich.
sharonite 09-21-2012, 08:06 PM Wait, can you say the name of the case? I've been lurking a few years and don't know any banned cases - I don't want to discuss it, I just want to know what it is, lol.
This one: http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Mary_Morris_and_Mary_Morris
1990 UM fan 09-22-2012, 03:32 AM I remember the threatening phone calls that Officer Thompson received while working the night shift at the Frontera Prison infirmary. This was shortly after Terri Lucas died and Thompson didn't want to file the paperwork "in the proper manner." The caller told Thompson that she'd end up like Jessalyn Rich.
What became of all that anyways? The last I heard was a big hearing or trial about the corruption in the prison and that the remains they found were thought to be Jesslynn's but weren't.
rhzunam 09-22-2012, 04:34 AM I'm pretty sure that was Debbie Wolfe.
Thanks. Thatīs the case with the mysterious call in the message machine about "being out a lot of days" at work when she had only missed one.
dynoguy88 09-22-2012, 11:21 AM I kind of lean towards the feeling that they probably had to tone it down somewhat at least being suspected of murder. Although I don't know for sure.
Because terrorizing and bullying people is one thing, but you start killing people it a whole different ballgame.
This case reminds me a lot of a movie I saw once that was based on a true story. I can't remember the name of the movie but there was a guy named Len Roland who terrorized a town bullying people similar to how this gang did. He was just a large abusive guy who had a bunch of women and he and his family shot people's houses up and bullied them, it kind of peaked out when he shot this old guy and put him in the hospital. The sheriff's department was basically intimidated and would do nothing. Finally they had all had enough and eventually killed him. I remember Chris Cooper being in the movie seems like, but I don't remember the name of it, sound familiar?
Anyway my point was, you can only push people so far before they go angry mob and retaliate, most tyrants in history found that out. So my guess is the Rock Creek Gang had to tone it down eventually.
By all means anything you find out let us know though.
Looking through google news archive, I could find only one article and it was from 1992, several months after the story first aired on UM. It said that state investigators reaffirmed that Hamrick's death was an accident. But the superintendent of Ohio Bureau of Criminal Investigation admitted that we'll never really know.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=wvRYAAAAIBAJ&sjid=fIUMAAAAIBAJ&pg=1217,490555&dq=robert+hamrick+rock+creek+ohio&hl=en
MissFit29 09-22-2012, 11:45 AM What about those death threat calls made to Ed Baker? No one ever found out who was responsible for those or why they were made.
You know, I always thought he made those up. Was there ever any verifiable proof that he actually received the calls?
I thought he was setting up a smoke screen so he could easily skip town later. I thought it was interesting that his wife moved to Europe after Baker's "death." Maybe he's there with her.
charmedsignora 09-22-2012, 05:28 PM What became of all that anyways? The last I heard was a big hearing or trial about the corruption in the prison and that the remains they found were thought to be Jesslynn's but weren't.
That's what I heard too. I guess she's still missing!
MegtheEgg86 09-22-2012, 06:13 PM You know, I always thought he made those up. Was there ever any verifiable proof that he actually received the calls?
I thought he was setting up a smoke screen so he could easily skip town later. I thought it was interesting that his wife moved to Europe after Baker's "death." Maybe he's there with her.
I have actually never thought of it that way because I've always had it in my mind he couldn't pay up to his debtors and was murdered for that reason. But you're right. There was no verifiable proof he'd received the calls.
Well that's something to think about!
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