Observation 1

why would florida and james gift wrap a sweater for J.J's Birthday when they knew how much he wanted the art supplies? Why not just tell him straight up like a man since he was turning 18. I;m sure he wouldn't have cried once he found out:lol:


Observation 2

When Monty was telling Thelma the news about J.J why was he whispering and they were the only ones in the hallway?:lol:


Observation 3

Why the hell would Florida tell Thelma and Michael to go and do their homework right after a birthday party for J.J?

Observation 4

It was obvious that J.J was mad about not getting the gift he wanted which is why he left the house so fast:lol:

Observation 1

why would florida and james gift wrap a sweater for J.J's Birthday when they knew how much he wanted the art supplies? Why not just tell him straight up like a man since he was turning 18. I;m sure he wouldn't have cried once he found out:lol:


Observation 2

When Monty was telling Thelma the news about J.J why was he whispering and they were the only ones in the hallway?:lol:


Observation 3

Why the hell would Florida tell Thelma and Michael to go and do their homework right after a birthday party for J.J?

Observation 4

It was obvious that J.J was mad about not getting the gift he wanted which is why he left the house so fast:lol:[/QUOTE]





Observation 1
1. That's all they had and could only afford was a sweater, so they wrapped the sweater gift to look good and...could NOT afford the art supplies so they kept it moving:lol:
Observation 2
2. Maybe Monty was whispering because he did not want Florida or James to hear the bad news after he saw that they were having a good time dancing:lol: and yes the door was closed, however in the projects the walls are very thin and you could hear a pin drop:lol: :lol:

Observation 3
3. Think about it, there was nothing else to do after the party when JJ left, therefore why would Thelma go cook and maybe Michael did not want to go outside to play, I am sure Florida would have NOT said, Michael go outside and play after the miserable birthday party, so if Florida did NOT say anything, it would have been complete silence. lol: :lol: :lol:

Observation 4
4. EXACTLY, especially after he looked everywhere for the surprise art supplies and could NOT find it, only getting that pitiful looking sweater, I would have left too, however NOT to the liquor store with NO money..:lol: :lol:

Observation 1

why would florida and james gift wrap a sweater for J.J's Birthday when they knew how much he wanted the art supplies? Why not just tell him straight up like a man since he was turning 18. I;m sure he wouldn't have cried once he found out:lol:


Observation 2

When Monty was telling Thelma the news about J.J why was he whispering and they were the only ones in the hallway?:lol:


Observation 3

Why the hell would Florida tell Thelma and Michael to go and do their homework right after a birthday party for J.J?

Observation 4

It was obvious that J.J was mad about not getting the gift he wanted which is why he left the house so fast:lol:





Observation 1
1. That's all they had and could only afford was a sweater, so they wrapped the sweater gift to look good and...could NOT afford the art supplies so they kept it moving:lol:
Observation 2
2. Maybe Monty was whispering because he did not want Florida or James to hear the bad news after he saw that they were having a good time dancing:lol: and yes the door was closed, however in the projects the walls are very thin and you could hear a pin drop:lol: :lol:

Observation 3
3. Think about it, there was nothing else to do after the party when JJ left, therefore why would Thelma go cook and maybe Michael did not want to go outside to play, I am sure Florida would have NOT said, Michael go outside and play after the miserable birthday party, so if Florida did NOT say anything, it would have been complete silence. lol: :lol: :lol:

Observation 4
4. EXACTLY, especially after he looked everywhere for the surprise art supplies and could NOT find it, only getting that pitiful looking sweater, I would have left too, however NOT to the liquor store with NO money..:lol: :lol:[/QUOTE]



Well then they should have given him the sweater the same time they told him they couldn't get the art supplies. They made it worst by pretending to give him the supplies and have him see that it was only a sweater.


It was no way James and Florida would have heard Monty and they were no where near the door

Even if it was nothing else to do it sounded silly for a kid to go from party mode to homework mode

And Yes he that was a DUMB A$$ gift and should have never been gift wrapped. That's like a kid in 2012 expecting a IPOD and getting a pack of underwear instead when your parents gave you hints that the IPOD was coming

Observation 1
1. That's all they had and could only afford was a sweater, so they wrapped the sweater gift to look good and...could NOT afford the art supplies so they kept it moving:lol:
Observation 2
2. Maybe Monty was whispering because he did not want Florida or James to hear the bad news after he saw that they were having a good time dancing:lol: and yes the door was closed, however in the projects the walls are very thin and you could hear a pin drop:lol: :lol:

Observation 3
3. Think about it, there was nothing else to do after the party when JJ left, therefore why would Thelma go cook and maybe Michael did not want to go outside to play, I am sure Florida would have NOT said, Michael go outside and play after the miserable birthday party, so if Florida did NOT say anything, it would have been complete silence. lol: :lol: :lol:

Observation 4
4. EXACTLY, especially after he looked everywhere for the surprise art supplies and could NOT find it, only getting that pitiful looking sweater, I would have left too, however NOT to the liquor store with NO money..:lol: :lol:



Well then they should have given him the sweater the same time they told him they couldn't get the art supplies. They made it worst by pretending to give him the supplies and have him see that it was only a sweater.


It was no way James and Florida would have heard Monty and they were no where near the door

Even if it was nothing else to do it sounded silly for a kid to go from party mode to homework mode

And Yes he that was a DUMB A$$ gift and should have never been gift wrapped. That's like a kid in 2012 expecting a IPOD and getting a pack of underwear instead when your parents gave you hints that the IPOD was coming[/QUOTE]


The Evans was POOR what do you expect?:crazy: :crazy: :lol: :lol: :crazy: :crazy:

Well then they should have given him the sweater the same time they told him they couldn't get the art supplies. They made it worst by pretending to give him the supplies and have him see that it was only a sweater.


It was no way James and Florida would have heard Monty and they were no where near the door

Even if it was nothing else to do it sounded silly for a kid to go from party mode to homework mode

And Yes he that was a DUMB A$$ gift and should have never been gift wrapped. That's like a kid in 2012 expecting a IPOD and getting a pack of underwear instead when your parents gave you hints that the IPOD was coming


The Evans was POOR what do you expect?:crazy: :crazy: :lol: :lol: :crazy: :crazy:[/QUOTE]



Well they should have kept things quiet like my mom did if they knew money was tight and have the art supplies be a SURPRISE

The Evans was POOR what do you expect?:crazy: :crazy: :lol: :lol: :crazy: :crazy:



Well they should have kept things quiet like my mom did if they knew money was tight and have the art supplies be a SURPRISE[/QUOTE]

Are you kidding saying, like your mom who have kept things quiet, everyone is different on how they handle things:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

Well they should have kept things quiet like my mom did if they knew money was tight and have the art supplies be a SURPRISE

Are you kidding saying, like your mom who have kept things quiet, everyone is different on how they handle things:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:[/QUOTE]


The Evans wasn't even part of the "working poor", they were "POOR" so they were in no position to get their kids hopes up knowing that they had little money

J.J wasn't suppose to know about the art supplies, it WAS suppose to be a surprise. J.J nosed around and found out about what James and Flo were trying to get him, just like he found out what Thelma, Micheal and Willona got him.

Are you kidding saying, like your mom who have kept things quiet, everyone is different on how they handle things:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:


The Evans wasn't even part of the "working poor", they were "POOR" so they were in no position to get their kids hopes up knowing that they had little money[/QUOTE]


What if Florida or James did NOT get their kids hopes up having plenty of money and got them a gift that they knew the kids wanted; however the kids did not show any interest because they wanted something else instead, is it the parents fault because the kids changed their mind for something different, after the parents got them exactly what the parents knew what the kids wanted?

J.J wasn't suppose to know about the art supplies, it WAS suppose to be a surprise. J.J nosed around and found out about what James and Flo were trying to get him, just like he found out what Thelma, Micheal and Willona got him.


It sounded like he expressed what he wanted to james and Florida because how else would they know what to get him?

The Evans wasn't even part of the "working poor", they were "POOR" so they were in no position to get their kids hopes up knowing that they had little money


What if Florida or James did NOT get their kids hopes up having plenty of money and got them a gift that they knew the kids wanted; however the kids did not show any interest because they wanted something else instead, is it the parents fault because the kids changed their mind for something different, after the parents got them exactly what the parents knew what the kids wanted?[/QUOTE]


That sweater was just a bad backup gift.

That sweater was just a bad backup gift.
That sweater really did stink as a gift. You could tell it took no thought at all, so I don't blame JJ for being upset. Even if he wasn't expecting art supplies, I imagine he would still be upset.

It sounded like he expressed what he wanted to james and Florida because how else would they know what to get him?

What does that have to do with anything? Just because your children want something doesn't mean that they will get it.

J.J knew that James and Florida did the best that they could with what they were working with.

What if Florida or James did NOT get their kids hopes up having plenty of money and got them a gift that they knew the kids wanted; however the kids did not show any interest because they wanted something else instead, is it the parents fault because the kids changed their mind for something different, after the parents got them exactly what the parents knew what the kids wanted?


That sweater was just a bad backup gift.[/QUOTE]

So what is the difference if Florida and James only could buy as a back up gift a pair of pants, a hat, shoes, pj's, blanket or socks when the art supplies was NOT a gift at all and you know dam well he was not getting a, bike, car nor a tv set, so whats left to buy that they could only afford?:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ?

That sweater was just a bad backup gift.

So what is the difference if Florida and James only could buy as a back up gift a pair of pants, a hat, shoes, pj's, blanket or socks when the art supplies was NOT a gift at all and you know dam well he was not getting a, bike, car nor a tv set, so whats left to buy that they could only afford?:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ?[/QUOTE]


Something connected to his passion like......"one paint brush" or something else to add to his art hobby. Maybe they should have used the money they spend on that nasty a$$ looking CAKE.

That cake looked like sweet SH*T:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

What does that have to do with anything? Just because your children want something doesn't mean that they will get it.

J.J knew that James and Florida did the best that they could with what they were working with.


They should have paid cash for a smaller gift connected to his art hobby. J.J wasn't the sweater wearing type of guy so it was a stupid gift that confirmed they put no thought in it

They should have paid cash for a smaller gift connected to his art hobby. J.J wasn't the sweater wearing type of guy so it was a stupid gift that confirmed they put no thought in it

What was wrong with the Sweater? It was something that he needed. They even threw him a small party with the fam. The store that sold the art supplies could have been too far away.

If I were in J.J's place, I would have been happy to get anything.

Man, I cannot wait until the day when you have kids :lol:

What was wrong with the Sweater? It was something that he needed. They even threw him a small party with the fam. The store that sold the art supplies could have been too far away.

If I were in J.J's place, I would have been happy to get anything.

Man, I cannot wait until the day when you have kids :lol:


And James was full of sh*t too because when he made this statement I knew he was lying

"I may have missed a payment once.......Or...TWICE......which means...SEVERAL:lol:


SO that's why his card was denied LOL

And James was full of sh*t too because when he made this statement I knew he was lying

"I may have missed a payment once.......Or...TWICE......which means...SEVERAL:lol:


SO that's why his card was denied LOL

How did he lie? ALSO he didn't have a card, he was trying to get store credit at a store that he never had trouble getting credit from in the past.

Did you watch the episode????? Re-watch it.

How did he lie? ALSO he didn't have a card, he was trying to get store credit at a store that he never had trouble getting credit from in the past.

Did you watch the episode????? Re-watch it.


Brieanna when some says..."I may have a missed a payement once or twice" that means they missed payments all the time. So he had a long history of paying sh*t late and it caught up with him on J.J's 18th birthday:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Brieanna when some says..."I may have a missed a payement once or twice" that means they missed payments all the time. So he had a long history of paying sh*t late and it caught up with him on J.J's 18th birthday:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

If you have shopped at a store for years and years, you use your store credit, you pay your bill and then one day you're told that the store will no longer grant you credit, that would be a shock to anyone. James had periods when he was unemployed so of course some bills will get paid late. Who hasn't paid a bill late or missed a payment? Things happen.

I paid our Electric Bill this evening and it was WAY past being late, the bill we got in the mail today was PINK :lol: , we were about to be in the dark :lol: I just forgot to pay it last month.

If you have shopped at a store for years and years, you use your store credit, you pay your bill and then one day you're told that the store will no longer grant you credit, that would be a shock to anyone. James had periods when he was unemployed so of course some bills will get paid late. Who hasn't paid a bill late or missed a payment? Things happen.

I paid our Electric Bill this evening and it was WAY past being late, the bill we got in the mail today was PINK :lol: , we were about to be in the dark :lol: I just forgot to pay it last month.



Electric is something that is on the same level as rent-lol How the hell you forget to pay that james?:lol:

Electric is something that is on the same level as rent-lol How the hell you forget to pay that james?:lol:

LOL. I paid the gas bill thinking that it was the electric. I saw the word Energy on the bill and I automatically thought that it was the electric. I was wondering why it was only $102 :lol:

LOL. I paid the gas bill thinking that it was the electric. I saw the word Energy on the bill and I automatically thought that it was the electric. I was wondering why it was only $102 :lol:


You would have been at the Electric Company just like James


"I;m sure I missed a payment once or twice but it's no reason to turn off my electric":lol: :lol: :lol:

You would have been at the Electric Company just like James


"I;m sure I missed a payment once or twice but it's no reason to turn off my electric":lol: :lol: :lol:

I did call them wondering why they were about to disconnect our services LOL. It got paid

I did call them wondering why they were about to disconnect our services LOL. It got paid



Well my August electric bill was not really high but it felt like it was because I just sent them $135 in July and for the august bill to come and say $120, that means I didn't accomplish anything.

So I only sent them $17.00 this month since I gave them so much last month:lol:

So The bill should be $250 in September.