Hello All,

I will start by saying I have a touch of OCD, I get fixated on things, and one of the things ive been doing extensive research on lately after seeing it on TV was the Amy Bradley case, the one where the girl on the cruise ship dissappears, it was featured on unsolved mysteries, vanished, and Dr. Phil. Anyway so after exhaustive research here is my theory, if its in parenthesis it is what I'm basing it on. **Sorry this is gonna be long.**

**Here's what we know from interviews with her brother and father.

Amy was at the dance club in the early morning hours with her brother, she was dancing with the bass player for the cruise ship band, Alister "Yellow" Douglas.

Amy goes back to her room and sits on the balcony with her brother, he goes inside to go to bed this is approximately around 4am. Her dad awakens at 530 and see's Amy on the balcony still wide awake, he goes back to sleep for a "little bit longer" and when he awakens around 600am, she is gone.

**From here on out is my theory on what happened based on eyewitness accounts.

Amy left the balcony and either ran into Alister Douglas coincidentally or planned to meet the band member (two girls reported seeing Amy and Alister walk into the club at around 6am after getting off an elevator).

I believe Amy left the boat and entered Curacao willingly after the boat was docked, but she was not alone. (her brother stated that she told mentioned earlier that she was going to venture onto the island early to pick up some items). It would have been too difficult to get her off the boat against her will i feel. (in addition to Douglas, she was also seen hanging around with several waiters, she could have accepted an offer from one of these men to go onto the island after meeting up with Douglas).

I do not believe she fell overboard, the boat was preparing to dock and was extremely close to the shore. Amy was captain of the swim club and a trained lifeguard. Also, at this time in the morning people were surely up and would have heard something, the surrounding waters were checked.

The next known sighting was by a cab driver who told the Bradley family that Amy approached his cab in a panic and said she urgently needed a phone. Had the plan to kidnap her taken effect? was she trying to contact her family to tell them she already exited the ship or for help? why didn't she tell the cab driver she was in trouble or anyone else?

I have a feeling this cab driver might have been mistaken in who he saw. he said he remembers her green eyes but im not sure this happened, if it did, her captors caught up to her for a second time, if it didnt happen, she was already kidnapped at this point.

The next known sighting was in August of 1998 in Curacao, 5 months after Amy's disappearence. A man claims a women walking on the beach heard him speaking English so speedily walked up to him but was grabbed by two men and led to a cafe, the man followed and the woman made obvious attempts to show her tattoos off to the man and the man listed the tattoos and they matched Amy's.

Next was a naval soldier who visited a brothel in 1999 in Curacao, a woman came up to him and said her name was Amy Bradley and she needed help that she couldnt get away. Out of fear that he would be in trouble as he was not supposed to be in that brothel he waited two years two report this incident.

A woman named Judy said that she saw Amy in 2005 in a bathroom in the Barbados, she was in the stall and heard them saying a deal was going through and dont try to ruin it for them. When she came out the woman said her name was Amy and she was from Virginia, then the men came in and grabbed her and Judy ran.

**Here's my theory on that

We all know by now about the pictures from 2005 that were on a website of an escort named "Jaz" that bares a strong resemblence to Amy Bradley that provides "adult" vacations. (it is now under "new management" and has moved locations from curacao to dominican republic, stating on their website that venezuela (where Curacao is close to) does not like americans and was giving them grief. In actuality the first place burned down. What "Judy" might have witness was this organization selling off some of their girls to this Barbados operation, because now on their website they only have "local girls" from D.R. or so they claim.

So that's where we stand. I also examined the pictures that were on the website of "Jaz" and pain stakenly compared them to every picture and video of Amy Bradley I could find. Although it has been a few years, I examined ever inch of the face and they are exactly the same in every feature, the only thing I would say from the pictures are not 100% is Jaz's nose at the tip seems to bend slightly up, while Amy's slightly down. This could be the angle or makeup however. Also they strategically cover all of her tattooed areas with hair or camera positioning. An FBI investigator examined the pictures and stated unequivocately that it is her and said he would "stake his career on it."

So there you have it. The only question is who lead Amy off of the boat. On Alister Douglas' facebook page it talks about how religious and spiritual he is, almost at nauseam. Although he was questioned and given a polygraph test, he was not detained. Could he be the spotter for a human trafficker? He allegedly said to Amy's brother "sorry about your sister being missing" when only the family and Captain knew she was in fact missing, at that point. However I did read that the Captain looked around the boat and one of the first places he went to look was the Band's quarters and asked them if they saw her. Did the Captain tell them she was missing? Why would alister word it the way he did?

Hopefully Amy will be found and soon....

Sorry for this being so long. Thank you anyone that actually read.

Also....The woman Judy in 2005 and the other two gave composite sketches of the Girl that they saw, they can be seen on the Charley Project webpage. The sketches from the witnesses are identical to "Jaz"

the more I think about it,it seems as though Amy had planned to meet up w someone..(either that or she just got up to smoke a cig) and she was persuaded,for whatever reason,to leave the ship and go into town.I think she most likely met her fate there,with it probably planned,and she was assualted,killed,and buried somewhere there.This would seem the most logical explanation...I can't believe someone would have let her live,work and risk being caught.Nor does it seem she fell overboard.JMO.
This case seems a lot like the Claudia case at the Jamaican resort.

The sad part is the Bradleys were conned by a PI they hired. They paid him tens of thousands of dollars only to have him stage pictures that might look like photos of Amy. Not only for the money but lost hope and time lost in the investigation.

I still believe (based off of what was shown on UM and Disappeared) that she fell overboard after becoming intoxicated from staying up all night partying.

I thought they were docked at the time and the surrounding waters had been checked? someone correct me if i'm wrong.

I thought they were docked at the time and the surrounding waters had been checked? someone correct me if i'm wrong.


At 530am when the father saw her on the balcony they were probably close to shore but still moving, they were docked around 8am

Good theory, S2h2k2007. I seem to agree. This is a sad one, and probably one that will never be resolved.

Amy Bradley is the featured missing person this week on "Websleuths."

There is a person who posts regularly in her thread under the name "FindAmy." He or she is a verified insider on the case (not sure what his exact connection is). He has a lot of interesting information. You can see the thread here: http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4936&page=10 (I'm starting on page 10 because it contains recent posts, but there is some interesting stuff before that).

Quoting "FindAmy" here:

I will try to fill you in as much as possible on Alister Douglas "Yellow".
I personally believe that Alister Douglas and possibly a Portuguese waiter were paid to drug Amy and deliver her.



Alister Douglas was the bass player in a band called "Blue Orchid" on Rhapsody of the Seas. After the first day of the cruise, there were several crew members who were overly attentive to Amy. Even Iva commented the first day about how turned off she was by Alister's behavior. He was obnoxious. The waiter was also overly attentive.

The day that the ship docked in Aruba, the Bradley family rented a jeep and toured the island. When they returned, the waiter asked if Amy would go with them after dinner to a bar called Carlos and Charlies. This is the same location where Natalee Holloway disappeared, seven years later. I personally believe that Amy was supposed to disappear that night in Aruba. It would have been much easier than trying to take her off of the ship in Curacao. Amy told her parents that she wouldn't go anywhere with those waiters because she thought they were creepy. Amy stayed on the ship with her family. She and Brad won a limbo contest and then headed for the disco. This is where Amy ran into Alister Douglas, again. Chris Fenwick has the video of Amy dancing with Alister Douglas in the disco.

Amy and Brad returned to the family's room. The door logs show that they both entered the cabin. At 5:30, Ron Bradley awoke and saw Amy on the lounge chair on the balcony. I posted floor plans and photos of this arrangement, several pages back. Ron awoke again at 6:00 and Amy was gone. She did not have shoes and she only had her Marlboro cigarettes with her. By 7:00 the Bradleys were looking for Amy and they had reported her missing to Royal Caribbean. The family assumes that Amy went in search of coffee. At about this time, one of the waiters approached Amy's brother, Brad, and told him how sorry he was that his sister was missing. It was impossible for the crew members to have known that Amy was missing at this point in time.

In the meantime, there was a female passenger I will refer to as "E". "E" became ill a few days before the cruise and she was on heavy antibiotics. She couldn't go into the sun. She discovered that if she spent her time in the disco area, she could see a lot of what was happening on the ship. She was awake early because she wanted to disembark into Curacao. She had gone to the disco to wait until she could leave. While she was sitting there, she saw Alister Douglas and Amy get off of the large glass elevators and walk to the bar in the disco. Alister Douglas turned up the music in the disco. "E" then saw Alister bring Amy a drink containing a dark liquid. It appeared to be coke or coffee. "E" left because the passengers were preparing to disembark. Amy was never seen again, although Douglas was seen in the glass elevator by himself. "E"'s statements have been verified. She passed a polygraph and she did testify before a Grand Jury. One report indicates that Alister was later found asleep in his room. I personally believe that Amy was passed off to another crew member before she was removed from the ship. An important piece of information is that there is also a staff elevator that leads from the disco. Two college coeds also saw Alister Douglas in the glass elevators.

Alister Douglas was questioned by the FBI. His polygraph was inconclusive. He maintains that he doesn't know what happened to Amy. He claims that Amy had a drink in the disco with the band at about 1:00 AM and he didn't see her after that time. He claims that Royal Caribbean searched his room and found nothing. There was no evidence that Amy had been with him and the FBI never charged him with anything. After the cruise, Royal Caribbean fired Alister Douglas for fraternizing with a passenger.

In August of 1998 (six months later) an engineer from Canada and his friend were diving at the beach in Porto Marie, Curacao. His name is David Carmichael and he was shown on the Vanished program. David has been a wonderful help to the Bradleys. He has passed polygraphs and appeared for interviews. David was organizing his equipment, on the beach, when he noticed a woman and two men walking toward him. The woman had a horrified expression on her face. She appeared frightened. David began to respond to her, but one of the men with her ran between them. David said the man gave him a threatening look. David and his friend were later on the deck of the outdoor bar. They were sitting close to Amy and these two "handlers". David had full view of tattoos and other distinguishing things about Amy. David didn't know who Amy was until he returned to Canada and he saw her featured on a program. He immediately contacted the Bradleys and the FBI. Royal Caribbean sent their attorneys to David's home in an attempt to intimidate him, but he has absolutely maintained that the man with Amy was Alister Douglas.

Alister eventually returned to his native Grenada. He has reportedly found religion and he has been part of a band. He has had some other small business ventures. Douglas is married and he has at least one child. When the producers of Vanished were preparing to film the show, they contacted Douglas. They offered Douglas an opportunity to publicly give his version of the events. Alister Douglas refused to have any interaction with the program. After Amy's Vanished episode aired, Douglas contacted the producers and complained that he was innocent and that he was unfairly represented in the film.

At about this time, one of the waiters approached Amy's brother, Brad, and told him how sorry he was that his sister was missing. It was impossible for the crew members to have known that Amy was missing at this point in time.




I thought that this was disregarded because the ships crew had spoken to a lot of the staff about if they have seen Amy, and that's how some of the staff knew about her missing? I could be wrong.


After Amy's Vanished episode aired, Douglas contacted the producers and complained that he was innocent and that he was unfairly represented in the film.





You know what? This guy can burn in hell. You are one of the last people to be seen with missing person and you refuse to give your side of the story for documentary that would help get the word out about somebody's missing daughter. Ok fine, I know a few yrs back he said something like "I am done with this issue, LE is just going around in circles and I am sick of being a suspect". Fine. But to complain that he was presented in a bad light to the producers of Vanished? Get over it muchamba, you are a top suspect and for good reason, and you couldn't even give the producers an off camera statement.

Supposedly he has found religion now. Which is fine, but you would think if he really had converted, he would want to help find this girl in any way he could.

I still believe (based off of what was shown on UM and Disappeared) that she fell overboard after becoming intoxicated from staying up all night partying.

On the UM segment, Ron Bradley said that when he awoke at 5:30 to see Amy asleep on the balcony, the balcony doors were closed. He even goes as far to say that had the doors been open, he would have gotten up to close them (even with Amy still out there) before going back to sleep. When he woke up 20 minutes later to find Amy was missing, the balcony doors were now opened.

So if she really was so intoxicated and fell overboard like you theorize, that would mean she was coherent enough to know to open the balcony doors but still decided to then turn around and climb over the balcony to her death.

It just doesn't sound likely to me.

On the UM segment, Ron Bradley said that when he awoke at 5:30 to see Amy asleep on the balcony, the balcony doors were closed. He even goes as far to say that had the doors been open, he would have gotten up to close them (even with Amy still out there) before going back to sleep. When he woke up 20 minutes later to find Amy was missing, the balcony doors were now opened.

So if she really was so intoxicated and fell overboard like you theorize, that would mean she was coherent enough to know to open the balcony doors but still decided to then turn around and climb over the balcony to her death.

It just doesn't sound likely to me.

I agree. I've never been slobbering drunk wasted, but I have had too much to drink and I would still not go anywhere near something I was afraid of so much. I doubt she changed her clothes, grabbed her cigarettes and then went flying overboard.

Been reading through that thread on Websleuths and I find interesting that it got to the point where the moderators specifically asked posters to stop trying to push the theory that Amy simply fell off the ship's balcony. I know Websleuths can be notoriously rigid about its posting rules, but if wonder if this "FindAmy" person provided some inside info that officially disproves the theory. While I've never believed Amy fell off the ship, it's not like I could ever say with any certainity it didn't happen.

It's also interesting that "FindAmy" believes that Amy was kidnapped, but not forced into prostitution like many believe. This person claims to have their own theory which they cannot share for security reasons.

Been reading through that thread on Websleuths and I find interesting that it got to the point where the moderators specifically asked posters to stop trying to push the theory that Amy simply fell off the ship's balcony. I know Websleuths can be notoriously rigid about its posting rules, but if wonder if this "FindAmy" person provided some inside info that officially disproves the theory. While I've never believed Amy fell off the ship, it's not like I could ever say with any certainity it didn't happen.

It's also interesting that "FindAmy" believes that Amy was kidnapped, but not forced into prostitution like many believe. This person claims to have their own theory which they cannot share for security reasons.

In the post I quoted above, a witness identified as "E" saw Amy on the ship, AFTER the 6am time that her father last saw her on the balcony. Also, FindAmy says that there have been many "verified" sightings of Amy all the way up to 2005. I'm not sure what criteria has to be met for a sighting to be considered verified, but at least one of these sightings was considered credible enough that the FBI sent someone to the area to investigate. Like many of you, I'm usually skeptical of eyewitness sightings, but I think Amy's case, many of these have merit. Amy has specifically identified herself as Amy Bradley or Amy from Virginia. Also, she has distinctive tattoos.

Some of the reasons she may have been kidnapped that are being tossed around are as a breeder, as a lure to draw young women into prostitution, or as someone to help abduct young children. No one is saying that Amy has actually done these things- they're just thoughts. FindAmy won't disclose the reasons he thinks Amy might have been taken because he does not want to put her in further danger. Also, he made a good point- prostitution is legal in the Caribbean (or at least on Curacao). There's really no reasons to kidnap a high-profile American and make her work as a prostitute, and there is no reason to keep a prostitute around for years and surround her with handlers in public.

On the UM segment, Ron Bradley said that when he awoke at 5:30 to see Amy asleep on the balcony, the balcony doors were closed. He even goes as far to say that had the doors been open, he would have gotten up to close them (even with Amy still out there) before going back to sleep. When he woke up 20 minutes later to find Amy was missing, the balcony doors were now opened.

So if she really was so intoxicated and fell overboard like you theorize, that would mean she was coherent enough to know to open the balcony doors but still decided to then turn around and climb over the balcony to her death.

It just doesn't sound likely to me.

I think she was sleeping outside on the balcony, awoke and retrieved her cigarettes and went back on the balcony to smoke (leaving the slider open, knowing that her smoke break would only be a few minutes) and then fell overboard.

In the post I quoted above, a witness identified as "E" saw Amy on the ship, AFTER the 6am time that her father last saw her on the balcony. Also, FindAmy says that there have been many "verified" sightings of Amy all the way up to 2005. I'm not sure what criteria has to be met for a sighting to be considered verified, but at least one of these sightings was considered credible enough that the FBI sent someone to the area to investigate. Like many of you, I'm usually skeptical of eyewitness sightings, but I think Amy's case, many of these have merit. Amy has specifically identified herself as Amy Bradley or Amy from Virginia. Also, she has distinctive tattoos.

Yeah, even though eyewitness sightings are often unreliable, the thing that lends credibility to the 6 AM sighting of Amy (assuming they didn't get the time mixed up) is that it took place within the confines of the cruise ship. This isn't a case of a stranger thinking they saw a missing person in a public place somewhere. There could only be so many (if any) short-haired American girls on that cruise who bore a resemblance to Amy. I wonder if they checked to see if there were any possible lookalikes on the cruise that the witness could have mistaken for Amy, though given that they failed to initiate a lockdown after she went missing, it would have been hard to know for sure.

Ive been watching the WebSleuths thread as well and I suppose the reason they don't want to talk about falling overboard because it is general consensus that a body would have been found. I disagree with WS approach, but I see what they are doing, the case was highlighted for those couple days, and they wanted to shoot the breeze about sightings, and unless someone on there saw a girl overboard, it pretty much ends discussion when you say "She fell off".

I wonder how far from shore they were when her dad noticed her gone?

A few points since I've been following the WS thread and posting a bit...

1. I agree with the point made here that the 'she fell overboard' theory leaves no room for discussion. I just always want to ask people who support that theory why are they even following the thread then? Just to shoot down other theories? Just seems pointless. For that reason alone, shutting down that line of discussion seems reasonable to me.

2. Mikewho asked how far the ship was from shore that morning. From what I understand, the ship was right there off Curacao, just waiting for light to pull up along the harbor front, not out in the middle of the ocean between islands.

3. My theory before FindAmy showed up was more or less that she was taken for prostitution, but FindAmy has made some good points about why that wouldn't be the best idea for the bad guys involved since prostitution is legal down there. Right now I am leaning more towards the 'breeder' idea.

I think she was sleeping outside on the balcony, awoke and retrieved her cigarettes and went back on the balcony to smoke (leaving the slider open, knowing that her smoke break would only be a few minutes) and then fell overboard.


How?

I mean, how do you suggest that she fell? Those rails are something like four feet high, at least. She would have to actually climb up on the rail to fall off of it. I get that people do weird things sometimes, but I just don't see how that is logical at all.

And how do you discount all the sightings of her afterwards?

If she fell, wouldn't she scream on the way down?

It seems like someone would hear or see something.

I've been reading the websleuths thread also, and hope for the best for Amy and her family.

:D My petite daughter and I went on a cruise together and I rarely let her out of my sight. She's a young adult but looks about 15.

How?

I mean, how do you suggest that she fell? Those rails are something like four feet high, at least. She would have to actually climb up on the rail to fall off of it. I get that people do weird things sometimes, but I just don't see how that is logical at all.

And how do you discount all the sightings of her afterwards?

I'm not suggesting that she fell overboard and it's the end of the discussion. I just think it's the only theory that makes the most sense with the known evidence. She was also presumeably intoxicated at the time of her disappearance, that could explain why she would have climbed up on the rail or done something reckless that caused her to fall overboard. And sightings, thanks to countless UM segments, are often more than not unreliable. I think people have seen someone who resembled Amy who appeared to be under "duress" who thought they actually saw her.

It's possible she fell overboard but I've always felt that was the least possible scenario. When I first saw the case I figured she would at least be found by now or at least more clues would surface.

I'm not suggesting that she fell overboard and it's the end of the discussion. I just think it's the only theory that makes the most sense with the known evidence. She was also presumeably intoxicated at the time of her disappearance, that could explain why she would have climbed up on the rail or done something reckless that caused her to fall overboard. And sightings, thanks to countless UM segments, are often more than not unreliable. I think people have seen someone who resembled Amy who appeared to be under "duress" who thought they actually saw her.


According to FindAmy, she was not drunk at all. I thought the UM segment specifically said she was, but they are confident she was with her parents for a majority of the night and that she wasn't. If she really was not, I'd say that almost throws away the falling overboard theory. Unless she slept walk off the darn ship

According to FindAmy, she was not drunk at all. I thought the UM segment specifically said she was, but they are confident she was with her parents for a majority of the night and that she wasn't. If she really was not, I'd say that almost throws away the falling overboard theory. Unless she slept walk off the darn ship

I thought that in just about every interview her brother's ever given, he's made it clear that they "partied hard" all night and into the early morning hours.

I suppose foul play could be possible, but I don't buy into the white slave trade theory...it just sounds too much like that Satanic cult crap that scared people in the 80's. I think it much more likely (if foul play truely was involved) that she was killed/incapacitated on the ship and thrown overboard. However, the reason I think foul play is unlikely is because there's such a small window of time for her to have been abducted. Her father sees her and then a half an hour later she's off of the balcony and gone. IIRC, her cigarettes and sleep clothes were missing which indicate she was getting ready for bed. If she did in fact leave the balcony to smoke elsewhere, why did she not close the door? The door being open, IMHO, is the biggest flaw in the foul play theory. I've never been on a cruise ship before, but in an old thread about Amy Bradley several people have stated that it is very easy for someone to fall overboard...especially if they had been drinking.

However, the reason I think foul play is unlikely is because there's such a small window of time for her to have been abducted. Her father sees her and then a half an hour later she's off of the balcony and gone. IIRC, her cigarettes and sleep clothes were missing which indicate she was getting ready for bed. .

It was actually more like an hour and a half before they started a search for her, at 7 a.m. Her father noticed her not on the balcony at 6, but it took a bit longer for a search to get going. That's plenty of time for someone to drug her and hide her, or smuggle her off the ship in a big container or laundry cart or something. She could have been hidden on the ship for a while, too- those ships are HUGE.

I know all of this seems far-fetched, but there are a few cases where the unlikely does turn out to be what happened. This is one of the few cases where I just can't discount all the eye-witness sightings later on. Amy has distinct tattoos, which make her easier to identify. She has identified herself by name before. And even the FBI seemed to take some of these accounts seriously.

I have followed this case for years and have always felt that she fell overboard for a number of reasons. There are so many facts out there that contradict each other to really know what is true or what is not true. For example someone on this thread stated Amy was a lifeguard and strong swimmer so if she fell overboard she would have been able to save herself, however the UM segment started out with her family helping her to the side of the boat because she was so afraid of water or heights. Also, although FindAmy states she was not intoxicated at all, I just can't believe that. I remember her brother in an interview not denying they were drinking and in fact were up pretty late into the night. I have been on cruise ships a number of times and the amount people drink is crazy. Also, I have always questioned if she changed her outfit from the night before and have read she changed her shirt and that she went had the same outfit on. Too hard to figure out what is true or not.

The main reason I feel she fell overboard was her shoes being left behind. No matter what she planned on doing, going into Curaco early or going to meet the band member, I believe she would take her shoes (especially if she took her cigarettes). If everyone remembers the case of the woman killed in Washington and the child left behind at a Walmart (Mike something) the father I thought was straight up about if Mike killed his wife why would he leave his jacket behind when it was freezing out. This is how I feel about the shoes. I think she went to have a cigarette, maybe sat on the balcony ledge to smoke (if she is intoxicated would not be as nervous to do so) and fell overboard with the cigarettes.

Style Weekly article about Amy's disappearance. Lots of interesting info.


Part I (http://www.styleweekly.com/richmond/amy-bradley-disappeared-from-a-royal-caribbean-cruise-ship-on-march-24-1998-believing-shes-been-abducted-her-family-refuses-to-give-up-the/Content?oid=1390272)

Part II (http://www.styleweekly.com/richmond/part-ii/Content?oid=1390780)

Part III (http://www.styleweekly.com/richmond/part-iii/Content?oid=1383740)

Those who follow Amy Bradley's case should be aware of a very disappointing activity involving Amy. An X-rated, romance novel has been written based on Amy's tragic kidnapping.

DISGUSTING! Amy is still missing and this author is making money off things she imagined happened to her. People who don't know any better may get the mistaken impression that the case is solved.

Reading the description on amazon, it's not only X rated but very crudely done, not like "romance" novels I've read in the past.

In the reader reviews, some of the people are very aware that this book is based on Amy's story with no effort to cover up identifying details (location, tattoos, the distinctive hair of the prostitute on that website, the fact that a US military man was asked to rescue a woman in a brothel who claimed to be a kidnapped american, etc).

Other amazon users have voted down those posts to the point that they're hidden "because they don't contribute to the discussion" and you have to choose to open them to read the comment. Those idiots are so desperate to read that tabloid sleeze crap that they don't even care that a real family is dealing with the very real nightmare of not knowing what has happened to their loved one.

There is more information about Amy at


http://lookforamybradley.boards.net/board/2/board-public-view

Definetly was not allistar Douglass

Definetly was not allistar Douglass


How can you be sure?

It should be noted that on some cruise ships the entertainment staff is a different category than the regular staff. The entertainment staff have more privileges and can mingle with the cruisers much, much more.

I am in the camp that if she had fallen overboard, her body would have been found. Cruise ships are big and slow and the docking process can take a ridiculous amount of time.

I don't think she's alive and being carted all over the world, though. I think she was probably killed accidentally on board and secreted off the ship in trash or other cargo.

Definetly was not allistar Douglass

This is the 2nd post Ive read that says this from the same poster. Do you know Mr. Douglass? Are YOU Mr. Douglass?

Speaking of Alister Douglas, he is nowadays a religious fanatic. His Facebook page is so full of religious paraphernalia it is almost nauseating. If that isn't a red flag I don't know what is.

Mr Douglas also turned down the opportunity to speak to Beth Holloway and tell his ''side of the story'' in 2010 when Amy's case was featured on Beth Holloway's ''Vanished'' series. When that aired he then went to complain to the producers that he was portrayed ''unfairly'' throughout the program. His arrogance is really amazing.

If Amy was taken from the ship against her will....how would they have gotten her through customs?
Wouldn't there be a record of her entering the country?

I'm sorry if this sounds naive, but I have been on a few cruises, and the security involved in getting on and off the ship, as well as entering the port is very, very detailed.

Definetly was not allistar Douglass

Well that settles it then.

Speaking of Alister Douglas, he is nowadays a religious fanatic. His Facebook page is so full of religious paraphernalia it is almost nauseating. If that isn't a red flag I don't know what is.

Mr Douglas also turned down the opportunity to speak to Beth Holloway and tell his ''side of the story'' in 2010 when Amy's case was featured on Beth Holloway's ''Vanished'' series. When that aired he then went to complain to the producers that he was portrayed ''unfairly'' throughout the program. His arrogance is really amazing.

Why is it a red flag? People become overly religious for all kinds of reasons. He has never been charged with anything so why would he need to work a religious gimmick? If there was evidence enough of anything to arrest & charge him then it would make zero difference whether he comes in the court acting like an altar boy or as a devil worshiper.

Why is it an opportunity? The guy has already been found guilty by many in the court of public opinion based on hearsay & insinuation & it sounds like the shows intention was to paint him as a bad guy-he likely figured they would edit anything he said to make him look guilty so why give them more ammunition? He doesn't have the right to complain about a national broadcast portraying him in what he believes was a very negative way?

Speaking of Alister Douglas, he is nowadays a religious fanatic. His Facebook page is so full of religious paraphernalia it is almost nauseating. If that isn't a red flag I don't know what is.


Whoa. Maybe my minister kidnapped Amy Bradley. She's ALWAYS posting religious stuff.

If Amy was taken from the ship against her will....how would they have gotten her through customs?
Wouldn't there be a record of her entering the country?

I'm sorry if this sounds naive, but I have been on a few cruises, and the security involved in getting on and off the ship, as well as entering the port is very, very detailed.

I think the theory is that she was stashed in a container and moved off the ship that way.

I am in the camp that if she had fallen overboard, her body would have been found. Cruise ships are big and slow and the docking process can take a ridiculous amount of time.



They could have stashed her body and dumped her later, when the ship was out in the waters away from the islands.

I think the theory is that she was stashed in a container and moved off the ship that way.

They could have stashed her body and dumped her later, when the ship was out in the waters away from the islands.

That is an interesting theory I had never even really considered-it would explain more easily why no body was ever found if it was a murder & disposal.

Whoa. Maybe my minister kidnapped Amy Bradley. She's ALWAYS posting religious stuff.

I just choked on my soup. LOL.:D :D :D

I think the theory is that she was stashed in a container and moved off the ship that way.

They could have stashed her body and dumped her later, when the ship was out in the waters away from the islands.

I actually think this is the most plausible scenario. I've been on a cruise myself and I agree that the security while getting on/off the boat is pretty tight.

I believe that Amy was most likely assaulted and killed on the ship by a crew member, quite possibly Mr. Douglass, who stashed her body and dumped it later.

I can understand the whole human trafficking angle, but the part that bugs me is that Amy does not fit the "type" of girl taken. It's my understanding that blondes with light skin and blue eyes are the "hot" commodity, so to speak. It's why I could understand Natalee Holloway potentially being sold into the sex trade. While Amy is a very attractive woman, I don't see her fitting the mood for those place into the slave trade.

88Keys - thanks for responding. I think it is definitely possible that Amy was taken off the ship in a container of some sort.

I also feel (like the poster above) that Amy doesn't fit the profile of a woman in the sex trade, but, then again, she was young, slim and may have seemed an easy mark to them, for some reason.

There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding about what Amy was actually taken for, Yes Amy is a human trafficking victim. However she is not a sex trafficking victim. There are many different forms and variations of human trafficking, some are trafficked for sex, some for forced labor, the extraction of organs, forced marriage, smuggling ect. Amy is believed to be being used as a mule. FindAmy has been adamant about this. The media is responsible for the the false hype of Amy being a prostitute. However that being said, that does not mean Amy hasn't faced horrible sexual abuse.

Thank you for your post.
I read something about Amy possibly being used as a "breeder."
Is there any info on that?

Also, can you explain more about the forced marriage?

The link about forced marriages doesn't work, but if there is anything you can share on that subject, I would really appreciate it.

I find the subject of human trafficking to be fascinating.
The mechanics of how they do it, how they elude capture and how a lot seems to be kept under the radar.

Another example of this kind of human trafficking is Actress Analeigh Tipton. Analeigh is most known for her roles in ''warm bodies'' and ''Crazy, Stupid, Love'' She was also once a former contestant for America's next top model. Her story began when she approached by recruiters who posed as ''modeling agents'' in America who wanted to sell her off to a prince in Saudi Arabia as a wife. Here she explains her ordeal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37_rTIU3nlc Analeigh was however lucky enough to be able to get out of the deal before it was finalized. It's scary to think what might've happened if she had went to Saudi Arabia with these so called ''modeling agents'' Analeigh would probably be just another unsolved missing person case in a police file.

Most likely she would have ended up being a porta potty/escort for a couple of weeks & return home with a load of cash. That is very popular with rich Arab men who pay huge money for attractive western girls to go out there.

Then again you have to question the wisdom of anybody who believes a model agency rep who tells them they don't even have an agency & accepts an invite to go hang out with random men-how does that not scream you are going to be an escort & not a model?

It should be working now. Anyway, Google ''forced marriages human trafficking'' and you will find hundreds of links.

Human trafficking is also very fascinating to me. However it just perplexes me how many of our missing are actual trafficking victims. It's usually a tough thing to verify, since we don't know whether the missing individual is alive, or what the motive of the kidnapping was. However traffickers are very good at their jobs, a lot of them mostly prey upon teen runaways, or people that they think won't be missed very much. However with middle class victims of trafficking the are able to manipulate the individual and kidnap them strategically. I 100% believe the recruiters/traffickers purposely boarded the Rhapsody Of The Seas on March 21 1998 looking for a victim that suited their fancies. After all no one knew what human trafficking even was back then, and a person disappearing off a cruise ship would most likely be ruled as an a fallen overboard passenger. That's probably what was in their minds.

Law enforcement have been investigating human trafficking for many decades-long before 1998.

There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding about what Amy was actually taken for, Yes Amy is a human trafficking victim. However she is not a sex trafficking victim. There are many different forms and variations of human trafficking, some are trafficked for sex, some for forced labor, the extraction of organs, forced marriage, smuggling ect. Amy is believed to be being used as a mule. FindAmy has been adamant about this. The media is responsible for the the false hype of Amy being a prostitute. However that being said, that does not mean Amy hasn't faced horrible sexual abuse.

1. You assume Amy was taken & is a victim of trafficking. She could just as easily be a victim of foul play on the ship or off of it if she went for a drink with somebody.

2. The kidnapping of people for extraction of organs-urban legend time.

3. So if she was kidnapped then what was the purpose if it wasn't sexual? Aside from the fact she isn't really a high candidate for sex traffickers what would be the point of kidnapping a westerner who sticks out like a sore thumb in the Caribbean when you could have any number of people living there in poverty who would be willing mules or indeed unwilling? If she isn't a sex trafficking victim then what were all the Jas photos about that FindingAmy says is her?

Another example of this kind of human trafficking is Actress Analeigh Tipton. Analeigh is most known for her roles in ''warm bodies'' and ''Crazy, Stupid, Love'' She was also once a former contestant for America's next top model. Her story began when she approached by recruiters who posed as ''modeling agents'' in America who wanted to sell her off to a prince in Saudi Arabia as a wife. Here she explains her ordeal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37_rTIU3nlc Analeigh was however lucky enough to be able to get out of the deal before it was finalized. It's scary to think what might've happened if she had went to Saudi Arabia with these so called ''modeling agents'' Analeigh would probably be just another unsolved missing person case in a police file.

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This is what Analeigh looked like during her stint on Top Model. I can buy her being sold to an Arab prince, as she would meet that blonde hair/light skin/light eye color that I believe is widely preferred.

I do agree with James T's comments. There's an awful lot of assumptions being made that Amy was sold into human slavery. Is it even a possibility that she would still be alive? I'm no expert, but it seems to me that this life is pretty brutal on these girls and life expectancy is short...

Completely OT: I watched Top Model during Analeigh's season. She should have been in the final two, for sure. :D

http://antm411.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/antm_analeigh13.jpg

This is what Analeigh looked like during her stint on Top Model. I can buy her being sold to an Arab prince, as she would meet that blonde hair/light skin/light eye color that I believe is widely preferred.

I do agree with James T's comments. There's an awful lot of assumptions being made that Amy was sold into human slavery. Is it even a possibility that she would still be alive? I'm no expert, but it seems to me that this life is pretty brutal on these girls and life expectancy is short...

Completely OT: I watched Top Model during Analeigh's season. She should have been in the final two, for sure. :D

Very attractive-she does indeed fit just the mold of western girls that do short stints in the middle east being treated like dirt by rich Arabs who return with a lot of money for it. Never heard of any of them not returning-there seems to be a lot of women happy to do this kind of stuff for the wealth it brings them, so kidnapping isn't even considered & western girls going missing brings all kinds of unwanted attention.

Which kind of makes the whole idea of Amy being a target somewhat hard to believe. Why would traffickers risk being observed, abduct a woman with a well off family who could make ructions/involve the feds bringing all kinds of heat down on them when they could be grabbing native ladies stumbling out of bars drunk at 3 in the morning, or enticing poor people to get involved with their activities with the lure of money?

There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding about what Amy was actually taken for, Yes Amy is a human trafficking victim. However she is not a sex trafficking victim. There are many different forms and variations of human trafficking, some are trafficked for sex, some for forced labor, the extraction of organs, forced marriage, smuggling ect. Amy is believed to be being used as a mule. FindAmy has been adamant about this. The media is responsible for the the false hype of Amy being a prostitute. However that being said, that does not mean Amy hasn't faced horrible sexual abuse.

FA has not been adamant that Amy was used as a mule. She has just been adamant that Amy was not used for sex trafficking. She wouldn't tell us what Amy's "special purpose" was.

And Analeigh was the coolest! She definitely has the All-American/Western look. She also would have still been a teenager when the Saudi Prince thing happened, IIRC.

Amy Bradley is attractive, but she does not look like the type of girl usually favored by traffickers. She was also well-educated and traveling with her family. Again, not the favored type. I'm not saying it couldn't have happened, but it seems very unlikely. And a cruise ship would be an odd place to try to abduct someone. It makes more sense to drug someone in a club or take them off of a beach. Somewhere less contained than a ship.

It should be working now. Anyway, Google ''forced marriages human trafficking'' and you will find hundreds of links.

Human trafficking is also very fascinating to me. However it just perplexes me how many of our missing are actual trafficking victims. It's usually a tough thing to verify, since we don't know whether the missing individual is alive, or what the motive of the kidnapping was. However traffickers are very good at their jobs, a lot of them mostly prey upon teen runaways, or people that they think won't be missed very much. However with middle class victims of trafficking the are able to manipulate the individual and kidnap them strategically. I 100% believe the recruiters/traffickers purposely boarded the Rhapsody Of The Seas on March 21 1998 looking for a victim that suited their fancies. After all no one knew what human trafficking even was back then, and a person disappearing off a cruise ship would most likely be ruled as an a fallen overboard passenger. That's probably what was in their minds.


In my opinion, Amy wasn't taken to be a drug mule. First of all, there are PLENTY of desperate and or greedy folks who will transport drugs. Second of all, Amy would be exactly what agents were looking for as a mule. http://www.health24.com/Mental-Health/Alcohol/10-facts-on-drug-mules-20120721

In my opinion, Amy wasn't taken to be a drug mule. First of all, there are PLENTY of desperate and or greedy folks who will transport drugs. Second of all, Amy would be exactly what agents were looking for as a mule. http://www.health24.com/Mental-Health/Alcohol/10-facts-on-drug-mules-20120721

Yep, why would anybody want a mule who is going to try to screw up & would be picked out at customs? Of course the story from FindingAmy is they use private jets-in which case why would they need any mules if they can just fly around without we are led to believe any hindrance from anybody?

Amy Bradley is attractive, but she does not look like the type of girl usually favored by traffickers. She was also well-educated and traveling with her family. Again, not the favored type. I'm not saying it couldn't have happened, but it seems very unlikely. And a cruise ship would be an odd place to try to abduct someone. It makes more sense to drug someone in a club or take them off of a beach. Somewhere less contained than a ship.

Yet another reason I think it makes more sense to make the argument that Natalee Holloway could have been sold into slavery as opposed to Amy. She went missing from a bar/nightclub, she was quite young, more than likely intoxicated, and she wasn't on vacation with her parents. I think 88keys makes a good argument. Amy was not hammered drunk from most accounts, she was older than your "typical" trafficking victim, and she was on a vacation with her family where her absence would be noticed.

It would like more likely. But it seems far more likely from all we have seen that Holloway hang out with some bad boy types, they tried it on, she rebuffed them & with a mixture of alcohol & narcotics being involved ended up paying with her life.

For sure. I always thought her death was accidental and Van Der Sloot freaked out and disposed of her body in the ocean.

Then again, with his actions in Peru, I could be very mistaken on that one.

For sure. I always thought her death was accidental and Van Der Sloot freaked out and disposed of her body in the ocean.

Then again, with his actions in Peru, I could be very mistaken on that one.

What makes it even more disturbing is some idiotic woman has married him & given birth to his child. Still he is locked up for another 20 plus years & has already been stabbed twice it seems.

I've gotta raise an eyebrow about the human trafficking angle regarding both Amy Bradley and Natalee Hollaway. Before anyone chimes in, I'm not saying human trafficking doesn't happen, I know it does, but my primary objection in these cases is that given how much media attention both Amy and Natalee have attracted, wouldn't using them as slaves be counter-productive? I mean, a lot of people know what they look like. While I'm not saying it wouldn't be possible to still keep them alive for whatever purpose they're using them for, I do question why they would instead of just killing them and trafficking in someone whom no one would know or care is missing. Keeping those two girls alive...can't help but think it would require more time and effort than most criminal enterprises are willing to put forth. Just what would either really have to offer them that they couldn't get from some runaway that no one knows or cares about?

I've gotta raise an eyebrow about the human trafficking angle regarding both Amy Bradley and Natalee Hollaway. Before anyone chimes in, I'm not saying human trafficking doesn't happen, I know it does, but my primary objection in these cases is that given how much media attention both Amy and Natalee have attracted, wouldn't using them as slaves be counter-productive? I mean, a lot of people know what they look like. While I'm not saying it wouldn't be possible to still keep them alive for whatever purpose they're using them for, I do question why they would instead of just killing them and trafficking in someone whom no one would know or care is missing. Keeping those two girls alive...can't help but think it would require more time and effort than most criminal enterprises are willing to put forth. Just what would either really have to offer them that they couldn't get from some runaway that no one knows or cares about?

Fair point. I don't want anyone to misunderstand what I was trying to say, however. I believe both Amy and Natalee are deceased.

After all no one knew what human trafficking even was back then, and a person disappearing off a cruise ship would most likely be ruled as an a fallen overboard passenger. That's probably what was in their minds.

Respectfully snipped. People most certainly did know what human trafficking was back then.

In the 1980s, actress Susan Richardson (Eight is Enough) claimed that she was held captive in Korea. While her story was doubted by many, it WAS widely reported and she appeared on talk shows and such discussing the matter. There is an hour long show/interview with her on the site that must not be mentioned. Look for "Susan Richardson" "Eight is Enough" and "People are Talking"

http://nypost.com/2013/09/21/my-life-of-hell-in-an-afghan-harem/

We knew of the comfort women of WWII.

Etc.

Don't think the FBI would have ruled any possibility out 100%.

Well what do people smuggle? Generally it is drugs, could be tobacco. Again maybe if there was any proof of her being a mule we might not be assuming anything. Assuming it is drugs is perfectly logical.

Again the only ones claiming they know a lot are FindingAmy, yourself & a few others. Pity none of you have been able to provide any evidence at all, so it is nothing other than wild speculation. Why would the Bradley's know much?

I'm curious....what else DO people smuggle??

I'm curious....what else DO people smuggle??


In some places, money or gems.

In some places, money or gems.

And weapons.

Just saw this on Vanished.

She fell into the ocean. Too much money/effort wasted on nowhere leads, and people lying.

I seriously feel bad for her family as they really want her back, and they were scammed out of money, and time. Sad truth is she fell over though.

I always thought that smuggling her off the ship, if that's really what happened, would have been an extremely silly move by her abductors. Amy was seen a lot around the ship with her brother, so her abductors probably knew that she was on the ship with her family. Why wouldn't her family panic once they found out she was missing, and start an investigation immediately?

I always thought that smuggling her off the ship, if that's really what happened, would have been an extremely silly move by her abductors. Amy was seen a lot around the ship with her brother, so her abductors probably knew that she was on the ship with her family. Why wouldn't her family panic once they found out she was missing, and start an investigation immediately?

Exactly. And on top of that she was last seen on the balcony where her shoes were. Common sense says she fell over.

Also blaming that Yellow dude of selling her into sexual slavery is weird. Does he have a history of this? Why would you kidnap a grown woman? I thought they typically went for children or teens, not grown 20 year olds?

I always wondered why he was suspected when there's footage of them drunkingly dancing on each other. Dude was the ships band member? Who seriously think he kidnapped a grown woman into sexual slavery? lol.

Exactly. And on top of that she was last seen on the balcony where her shoes were. Common sense says she fell over.

What's your explanation for the balcony doors being open?

A few hours before she vanished, she was chatting with her brother on the balcony then he left her there, closing the sliding doors behind him. At 5 a.m., her father woke up momentarily, looked over and saw Amy asleep on the balcony, the doors still closed. Then an hour later, he woke again to see Amy was gone but the glass doors were now open.

So basically a few hours asleep on the balcony left her coherent enough to open the doors back to the room but then for some unknown reason, she decided to turn around, walk back on the balcony and then climb over the railing to her death? That doesn't sound like common sense to me.

What's your explanation for the balcony doors being open?

A few hours before she vanished, she was chatting with her brother on the balcony then he left her there, closing the sliding doors behind him. At 5 a.m., her father woke up momentarily, looked over and saw Amy asleep on the balcony, the doors still closed. Then an hour later, he woke again to see Amy was gone but the glass doors were now open.

So basically a few hours asleep on the balcony left her coherent enough to open the doors back to the room but then for some unknown reason, she decided to turn around, walk back on the balcony and then climb over the railing to her death? That doesn't sound like common sense to me.

It is common sense, and let me explain why:

1.) How closed was the door? Was it closed tight, or left partially open? If the door was partially open, then hitting a wave, or having a rocky turbulence could've opened the door all the way. Meaning which she could've never left the balcony. Also, what caused her father to jolt awake like that? a scream, or ruckus from the balcony perhaps?

2.) Amy could've easily went in to use the bathroom, or get something else from inside the cabin, and returned to the balcony. Her shoes were left on the balcony, so where would she go without her shoes? She leaves her shoes, but takes her cigarettes? Took her cigarettes, and lighter where?

Climbing over to her death? How about topping over, not climbing to her death. Keep in mind Amy was drunk/hungover, and possibly was on some substances. What happens most of the time when you're hungover? Correct, you vomit. Who's to say she didn't run immediately to the railing to throw up, but got woozy and fell overboard? Her mother mentioned that she had a fear of heights, and was afraid of looking over the ship, but perhaps she ran to throw up, and when she came to she realized what she was looking at and toppled over?

This theory is out there, but I'm going to say it anyway. She committed suicide. We seen on the tapes how drunk/drugged she was when she was dancing with Yellow, and we know that she got to the room later after that footage. Is it possible that she was possibly raped, or regretted doing something under the influence and jumped over? This isn't solid, but something I thought about. I know she didn't seem like she was raped according to her brother, but some drugs/alcohol are depressants, so maybe she had a "low" moment, and committed suicide.

Exactly. And on top of that she was last seen on the balcony where her shoes were. Common sense says she fell over.

Also blaming that Yellow dude of selling her into sexual slavery is weird. Does he have a history of this? Why would you kidnap a grown woman? I thought they typically went for children or teens, not grown 20 year olds?

I always wondered why he was suspected when there's footage of them drunkingly dancing on each other. Dude was the ships band member? Who seriously think he kidnapped a grown woman into sexual slavery? lol.

Precisely-why would a guy playing in a band on cruise ships just wake up one day & decide he is going to become a white slave trader? Considering there is no evidence of this happening on any other voyage he was on it seems highly improbable.

What would seem more probable if he was involved is that either she backed out on a sexual encounter with him, he got mad, killed her accidentally & then threw her body overboard to cover up the crime. Or in their drunken passion she fell overboard & he panicked & decided to do nothing for fear of arrest & prosecution.

What would seem more probable if he was involved is that either she backed out on a sexual encounter with him, he got mad, killed her accidentally & then threw her body overboard to cover up the crime. Or in their drunken passion she fell overboard & he panicked & decided to do nothing for fear of arrest & prosecution.

I fully agree. If he was involved this is exactly what I think happened, a hook-up gone wrong. Maybe he tried to have sex with her, she said no, there was a struggle, and he killed her.

I don't think she left the balcony though. She came in late after being seen with him on camera. If something did happen, then they hooked up before she returned, which could explain why she was late getting back.

Also, there was an eye witness account of them two walking around together seeming chummy. The time matches to being pretty early in the morning, I wonder if the eye witness got the time wrong, and seen them right after they were dancing together?

I also find it sickening that alot of people are storming his Facebook, but have no evidence.

I fully agree. If he was involved this is exactly what I think happened, a hook-up gone wrong. Maybe he tried to have sex with her, she said no, there was a struggle, and he killed her.

I don't think she left the balcony though. She came in late after being seen with him on camera. If something did happen, then they hooked up before she returned, which could explain why she was late getting back.

Also, there was an eye witness account of them two walking around together seeming chummy. The time matches to being pretty early in the morning, I wonder if the eye witness got the time wrong, and seen them right after they were dancing together?

I also find it sickening that alot of people are storming his Facebook, but have no evidence.

There was most likely a lot of retrofitting going on when people were being approached/questioned. People genuinely wish to help, but as we have seen & especially when there is a desperate family involved & in this case right in front of them they will start mixing things up in their mind & inventing things that they didn't actually see to try to make the family feel better & help them.

I honestly think that this is purely a case of the company & the people running that ship handling things really badly/callously & that seems to be something that affects that industry right across the board & the family then reacting to that & inventing a kidnap scenario & that then being fed by parasites like the guy who conned them & those coming forward with sightings that they never bothered to report at the time, but only after reading or seeing a television segment about the case offering a reward.

Yeah, it is sad that nearly 20 years on & with no solid evidence against him, his never having been arrested, let alone charged that this guy has had all manner of accusations leveled at him & since the popularity of the internet pretty much cyberstalked/harassed. He might well have been responsible for her disappearance, but she might just as easily have gone overboard on her own.

Yeah, it is sad that nearly 20 years on & with no solid evidence against him, his never having been arrested, let alone charged that this guy has had all manner of accusations leveled at him & since the popularity of the internet pretty much cyberstalked/harassed. He might well have been responsible for her disappearance, but she might just as easily have gone overboard on her own.

I don't think he did it. Think of it this way, if she never went missing, and we seen the footage of them two dancing drunk, then would it still appear to be creepy? Nope, just two drunk people dancing.

There's really not much against him other than hearsay, and accusations. Her brother had said that he said "sorry about your sister" which he found weird seeing as it was still early. I'm sure the crew members were notified ahead of everyone else to make sure she wasn't with one of them, and to not freak out the other passengers.

No offense to her family, but seeing all of the desperate things that they did, I'm sure they jumped the gun and just randomly pointed fingers. I would've done the same, but some of their testimony is rocky.

Sucks to say but she was seen all over him, and grinding on him. I don't think he had a motive to kill her.

If drunk, how drunk was she? Was she drunk enough to get her smokes or seen she forgot her shoes, turn around get dizzy go to throw up over board and pass out and fall over board?

If drunk, how drunk was she? Was she drunk enough to get her smokes or seen she forgot her shoes, turn around get dizzy go to throw up over board and pass out and fall over board?

From the footage, and her brother's testimony she seemed like she was pretty drunk, and possibly on a substance.

My problem with her leaving the balcony period was that her father had seen her around 5 a.m. sleeping. If she was partying super hard, then it's a possibility that she was blacked out. I find it hard to believe that a person who's been partying so hard that they blacked out on the balcony of a ship, got up after 5 a.m. to go to someone else's room where they were conveniently kidnapped for sexual slavery.

I think she got up to throw up overboard, and fell in.

Another problem is that people hold to much stake in the open door. If she was still on the balcony then it's a possibility that her brother left the door cracked, thinking that she was going to come back in soon. And if the door was left open then ships hit waves and rock all of the time. It's a possibility that the door just slid open from being cracked, and she never left the balcony period. That's why her shoes were still there.

Makes you wonder. If Amy was overweight, or a minority would people think Yellow was still guilty?

My big issue with this is that especially with cruise ships, the deck is not of "average" height. They've taken the consideration that people could fall overboard into account. As such, the balconies are at a higher level than one you would find outside your home.

I could see Yellow killing her in the midst of a sexual encounter gone awry and throwing her body overboard. I think that's a very plausible theory.

However, I'm not so quick to throw away the human trafficking possibility. Amy had features that would have been desirable to those involved with the trade. It's not just limited to children and adolescents.

My big issue with this is that especially with cruise ships, the deck is not of "average" height. They've taken the consideration that people could fall overboard into account. As such, the balconies are at a higher level than one you would find outside your home.

I could see Yellow killing her in the midst of a sexual encounter gone awry and throwing her body overboard. I think that's a very plausible theory.

However, I'm not so quick to throw away the human trafficking possibility. Amy had features that would have been desirable to those involved with the trade. It's not just limited to children and adolescents.

Even if the deck isn't of average height she still could've stood on the railing to have thrown up, or jumped. Her being drunk/drugged is a HUGE factor in this case. Even if the railing was higher than average she still could've been able to look over top of it.

If Yellow is guilty, then yes, I think that's what happened.

The human trafficking theory is bunk. I'm going to be so blunt that it's going to ruffle feathers, but other than Amy being white, she had no features that would make someone kidnap her off of a cruise ship where she was seen by numerous people, and was on video. I understand it was the 90's style, but she looked like a lesbian, or the last person I would kidnap for sexual slavery.

The problem being everyone is rushing to this sexual slavery theory, but are there reports of Yellow, or anyone on this ship doing this? Does this ship have a huge problem with missing white females? If it did, then it'd be shut down. Also, keep in mind that there were other females who probably were younger, and looked better than Amy on the ship. If so, then why wasn't anyone else kidnapped?

Another factor is that everyone is making Yellow out to be a monster, but from the footage she was grinding and on him pretty hard. People are acting as though Amy was quietly sitting in the corner, and he came over and started sexually assaulting her. Everything looked mutual to me, and on top of that she was on the deck around 5 a.m. knocked out.

I'm not saying that Amy was a wallflower that was taken away, kicking and screaming, by Yellow. But I could absolutely see both the sexual killing and the human trafficking happen. I totally get where you're going with the fact that Yellow has seemingly not engaged in trafficking activities previously.

....BUT.... who are we to say that it hadn't happened previously? If you start to delve into cruise ships, I think you'll find that a lot of hinky things happen on them--things that cannot be investigated or prosecuted correctly due to the confusion about where jurisdiction actually lies. I think people disappear from cruise ships more often than you realize. I do believe that there is a cover-up at play here, at least to a certain degree. You'll see the same thing in places like Jamaica and Aruba, places that are dependant on tourist income and cannot risk their reputations on the disappearances of young women.

It ties into one of my own favorite UM segments-- the disappearance of Claudia Kirschhoch. I do not think Claudia was put into trafficking-- however, I do believe she was murdered and the case was not aggressively pursued because of the negative impact it may have on Jamaica's tourism.

....BUT.... who are we to say that it hadn't happened previously? If you start to delve into cruise ships, I think you'll find that a lot of hinky things happen on them--things that cannot be investigated or prosecuted correctly due to the confusion about where jurisdiction actually lies. I think people disappear from cruise ships more often than you realize. I do believe that there is a cover-up at play here, at least to a certain degree. You'll see the same thing in places like Jamaica and Aruba, places that are dependant on tourist income and cannot risk their reputations on the disappearances of young women.

There's no evidence, or anyone coming forward accusing Yellow of this before. Like I hear around here all the time "evidence". Only evidence you have is them dancing together on the dance floor, that's all. This is a case where the parents don't want to accept what happened, came up with a "they sold our daughter into sexual slavery" theory to avoid the truth and hold out hope, pitched the idea, and everyone ate it up.

I'm not saying they're bad people, I understand, but it's likely that she fell overboard. If Amy never came back to the room period, then I'd be on the foul play side, but since she came back, and was seen around 5 by her father, I'm going with she went overboard.

If you start to delve into cruise ships, I think you'll find that a lot of hinky things happen on them--things that cannot be investigated or prosecuted correctly due to the confusion about where jurisdiction actually lies. I think people disappear from cruise ships more often than you realize.

People also fall overboard more than you realize. It's a ship. She wasn't in a hotel where she just went missing, she was on a ship where she was last seen on the balcony. Put 2 and 2 together.

I'm not saying that Amy was a wallflower that was taken away, kicking and screaming, by Yellow. But I could absolutely see both the sexual killing and the human trafficking happen. I totally get where you're going with the fact that Yellow has seemingly not engaged in trafficking activities previously.

....BUT.... who are we to say that it hadn't happened previously? If you start to delve into cruise ships, I think you'll find that a lot of hinky things happen on them--things that cannot be investigated or prosecuted correctly due to the confusion about where jurisdiction actually lies. I think people disappear from cruise ships more often than you realize. I do believe that there is a cover-up at play here, at least to a certain degree. You'll see the same thing in places like Jamaica and Aruba, places that are dependant on tourist income and cannot risk their reputations on the disappearances of young women.

It ties into one of my own favorite UM segments-- the disappearance of Claudia Kirschhoch. I do not think Claudia was put into trafficking-- however, I do believe she was murdered and the case was not aggressively pursued because of the negative impact it may have on Jamaica's tourism.


I recall about a missing man on his honeymoon? Some blood found on the umbrella below there room? Some think the wife killed him...

I recall about a missing man on his honeymoon? Some blood found on the umbrella below there room? Some think the wife killed him...

George Smith (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_George_Smith). Not profiled on UM, but definitely a case about oddities on cruise ships. Two theories: Drunken accident or botched robbery.

It's right up there with another pet case of mine, the disappearance of Rebecca Coriam (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Rebecca_Coriam) off of the Disney Wonder. I've been bugging RobinW about that one for awhile now... those who know me personally are well aware of my love for Disney and "The Mouse," but I'm fairly certain there is a massive cover-up involved in the Coriam disappearance.

George Smith (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_George_Smith). Not profiled on UM, but definitely a case about oddities on cruise ships. Two theories: Drunken accident or botched robbery.


Thats the one!!!!!

I recall about a missing man on his honeymoon? Some blood found on the umbrella below there room? Some think the wife killed him...

I wonder if that's where Slayer got their idea for the song "raining blood" from?

From the footage, and her brother's testimony she seemed like she was pretty drunk, and possibly on a substance.

My problem with her leaving the balcony period was that her father had seen her around 5 a.m. sleeping. If she was partying super hard, then it's a possibility that she was blacked out. I find it hard to believe that a person who's been partying so hard that they blacked out on the balcony of a ship, got up after 5 a.m. to go to someone else's room where they were conveniently kidnapped for sexual slavery.

I think she got up to throw up overboard, and fell in.

Another problem is that people hold to much stake in the open door. If she was still on the balcony then it's a possibility that her brother left the door cracked, thinking that she was going to come back in soon. And if the door was left open then ships hit waves and rock all of the time. It's a possibility that the door just slid open from being cracked, and she never left the balcony period. That's why her shoes were still there.

Although the picture of the sex slave does look a lot like Amy, I believe this statement by freakbook is probably what happened.

Makes you wonder. If Amy was overweight, or a minority would people think Yellow was still guilty?

Probably, although the case would likely not receive anywhere near the level of publicity.

Even if the deck isn't of average height she still could've stood on the railing to have thrown up, or jumped. Her being drunk/drugged is a HUGE factor in this case. Even if the railing was higher than average she still could've been able to look over top of it.

If Yellow is guilty, then yes, I think that's what happened.

The human trafficking theory is bunk. I'm going to be so blunt that it's going to ruffle feathers, but other than Amy being white, she had no features that would make someone kidnap her off of a cruise ship where she was seen by numerous people, and was on video. I understand it was the 90's style, but she looked like a lesbian, or the last person I would kidnap for sexual slavery.

The problem being everyone is rushing to this sexual slavery theory, but are there reports of Yellow, or anyone on this ship doing this? Does this ship have a huge problem with missing white females? If it did, then it'd be shut down. Also, keep in mind that there were other females who probably were younger, and looked better than Amy on the ship. If so, then why wasn't anyone else kidnapped?

Another factor is that everyone is making Yellow out to be a monster, but from the footage she was grinding and on him pretty hard. People are acting as though Amy was quietly sitting in the corner, and he came over and started sexually assaulting her. Everything looked mutual to me, and on top of that she was on the deck around 5 a.m. knocked out.

This has always been my big problem with the trafficking theory-Amy was fairly plain looking & although not unattractive you would think these people would be looking for somebody who looked more like Natalee Holloway. Also of course there are any number of women in these countries who are willing to be in the sex trade to make money, it would be incredibly difficult to keep a white woman secret-you would have to promote her & word would surely get back to the authorities. Of course we also have to believe that these kidnappers paraded her in public places until 2005-including somehow transporting her back to America & supposedly around the world evading law enforcement somehow.

When I looked into it a while back I could find no other incident before or after on this ship of this nature, the only other thing was in 2010 a crew member raped a 15 year old & in 2013 a man went overboard & was found dead 90 minutes later. I could not see any pattern of western women vanishing from cruise ships either.

Although the picture of the sex slave does look a lot like Amy, I believe this statement by freakbook is probably what happened.

Yeah, that picture had me stumped, it looked so much like her. I think the thing that got me to believe it wasn't her was her nose, and mouth. The prostitute also looked like she was from the late 70's/80's. Too dates to be Amy. I also recall seeing that the lady in the photo was a prostitute from Las Vegas.

When I looked into it a while back I could find no other incident before or after on this ship of this nature, the only other thing was in 2010 a crew member raped a 15 year old & in 2013 a man went overboard & was found dead 90 minutes later. I could not see any pattern of western women vanishing from cruise ships either.

I understand that Yellow looks guilty, and he was a convenient person to blame, however, the thing that makes me believe she fell overboard was the time frame. She was seen passed out drunk at 5 a.m., only to have disappeared a little while later. I think she fell, and her father jolted awake because he heard her fall/scream. I do hope something comes up and gives the family peace.

Also never realized her brother's name is Brad Bradley.

Anything new here?

https://www.ranker.com/list/facts-about-amy-lynn-bradley/philgibbons?var=4&utm_expid=16418821-322.aCGzpiECRI6K2_CYUZm8eA.3&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=pd&utm_campaign=What_Happened_to_Amy_Bradley_bitlytest&asid=23842739647470495&pgid=1011190218967434&psid=1574686509284466&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2F

drunk and falling over seems likely. The vast ocean is the cruelest and loneliest way to die.

I just happened to come across this website as I was actually reading about Natalee Holloway . They keep running the same story about her. Her parents have written books that are coming out or maybe already have. I think that Joran proved himself as a serial killer. He was a problem and on those islands like Aruba, Belize, women are 2nd class citizens. When I visited Belize, there was a film being produced about abuse of women on the Island. I have no doubt that Joran raped and murdered Natalee and got rid of her body. Joran's Father rich, influential and that's why they let Joran go, I'm sure it wasn't the first time. So, it was that I came upon the case of Amy Bradley. I'm always intrigued by mysteries and people who disappear. I don't know a lot about the background story, just what I read on here. She could have committed suicide. Or went off the ship voluntarily. She looked like she liked mischief. A girl from Virginia, maybe sheltered by her family. The only problem I have with them alleging she went off ship is the time. They just docked and I have been on a few cruises and they don't let you off the ship right away when they dock. Douglas being in a band doesn't fall under the rules of the crew and he might have gotten off with Amy, but If she did, she went voluntarily. And most of the crew members don't get to go ashore. I know because when on these cruises I had a lot of conversation with the crew members. 6 Months on the ship, 3 months home. And not all go ashore. Those crew members are pulling double shifts, sleep very little. I also noticed and this is not to offend anyone , but do you think that Amy might have been gay? Gay women love to party at that age, maybe Douglas said he knew of a place to really party , maybe some drugs were offered. When she got off the ship she was passed to another handler. Just because prostitution is legal there, doesn't mean women are lining up for the job. I have to read some more, get more info.

I just happened to come across this website as I was actually reading about Natalee Holloway . They keep running the same story about her. Her parents have written books that are coming out or maybe already have. I think that Joran proved himself as a serial killer. He was a problem and on those islands like Aruba, Belize, women are 2nd class citizens. When I visited Belize, there was a film being produced about abuse of women on the Island. I have no doubt that Joran raped and murdered Natalee and got rid of her body. Joran's Father rich, influential and that's why they let Joran go, I'm sure it wasn't the first time. So, it was that I came upon the case of Amy Bradley. I'm always intrigued by mysteries and people who disappear. I don't know a lot about the background story, just what I read on here. She could have committed suicide. Or went off the ship voluntarily. She looked like she liked mischief. A girl from Virginia, maybe sheltered by her family. The only problem I have with them alleging she went off ship is the time. They just docked and I have been on a few cruises and they don't let you off the ship right away when they dock. Douglas being in a band doesn't fall under the rules of the crew and he might have gotten off with Amy, but If she did, she went voluntarily. And most of the crew members don't get to go ashore. I know because when on these cruises I had a lot of conversation with the crew members. 6 Months on the ship, 3 months home. And not all go ashore. Those crew members are pulling double shifts, sleep very little. I also noticed and this is not to offend anyone , but do you think that Amy might have been gay? Gay women love to party at that age, maybe Douglas said he knew of a place to really party , maybe some drugs were offered. When she got off the ship she was passed to another handler. Just because prostitution is legal there, doesn't mean women are lining up for the job. I have to read some more, get more info.

Welcome! :wave:

I definitely agree with your opinions on Joran Van Der Sloot, although I'm not sure if Natalee's death was intentional or accidental. Given that he murdered a girl in Peru for "seeing too much" on his computer, however, would give some credibility to the theory that he murdered Natalee.

As to Amy Bradley... it's a head scratcher. I used to think foul play, but there have been some very good points here that would lean towards an accidental death. While the sex worker pictures do resemble Amy, I agree with the majority that it's not her.

It's right up there with another pet case of mine, the disappearance of Rebecca Coriam (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Rebecca_Coriam) off of the Disney Wonder. I've been bugging RobinW about that one for awhile now... those who know me personally are well aware of my love for Disney and "The Mouse," but I'm fairly certain there is a massive cover-up involved in the Coriam disappearance.

I don't want to derail this thread, but I just saw this post and remember going down the rabbit hole a few months ago on this case. I found this (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4285188/girlfriend-of-missing-disney-cruise-ship-worker-rebecca-coriam-breaks-six-year-silence-to-claim-lover-took-drugs-and-considered-suicide/) article and agree with the ex-girlfriend's theory.

I don't want to derail this thread, but I just saw this post and remember going down the rabbit hole a few months ago on this case. I found this (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4285188/girlfriend-of-missing-disney-cruise-ship-worker-rebecca-coriam-breaks-six-year-silence-to-claim-lover-took-drugs-and-considered-suicide/) article and agree with the ex-girlfriend's theory.

My computer wouldn't let me open it. Probably firewall. I'll try later. I read the web address and found it interesting. Suicide, eh? I'll check it out.

I don't want to derail this thread, but I just saw this post and remember going down the rabbit hole a few months ago on this case. I found this (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4285188/girlfriend-of-missing-disney-cruise-ship-worker-rebecca-coriam-breaks-six-year-silence-to-claim-lover-took-drugs-and-considered-suicide/) article and agree with the ex-girlfriend's theory.

That’s far more plausible than anything else I’ve ever seen/read about this case.

Another tawdry story from the trashiest paper in the UK. Find it hilarious she makes great play that she spent six years protecting Coriam's reputation & then tells everything for money.

Another tawdry story from the trashiest paper in the UK. Find it hilarious she makes great play that she spent six years protecting Coriam's reputation & then tells everything for money.

This (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/missing-disney-cruise-worker-rebecca-10683859) article says that the ex-girlfriend told the same story to the police immediately after she went missing. Multiple (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4173979/kids-entertainer-rebecca-coriam-who-vanished-from-disney-cruise-was-having-torrid-lesbian-affair-with-fellow-crewmember-and-had-threesome-with-love-rat-dad-just-before-she-vanished/) people on the ship have confirmed this.