In the episode.."The Magician". As soon as the episode starts after the opening credits, the woman sitting on the couch with Mr. Drummond is already laughing which looks like it may have been a line or two cut but the only proof would be if I had the NBC episode


But overall all the eps were full length and no other issues

You have no proof there were anything there originally! Run-times for those two episodes are consistent with the other non two-part episodes. Yet it was the two-part episodes' run-times you were whining about before you even had the DVD.

You have no solid proof to say there are edits, so you can't call out like that. Because if it was like that originally, you just made a fool of yourself AGAIN.

You have no proof there were anything there originally! Run-times for those two episodes are consistent with the other non two-part episodes. Yet it was the two-part episodes' run-times you were whining about before you even had the DVD.

You have no solid proof to say there are edits, so you can't call out like that. Because if it was like that originally, you just made a fool of yourself AGAIN.


So Pav what you are saying is when a episode starts and two people are already engaged in conversation and one of them is laughing, that is not a obvious edit????

Obviously Mr. Drummond already said something for her to laugh. Come on Pav

You have no proof there were anything there originally! Run-times for those two episodes are consistent with the other non two-part episodes. Yet it was the two-part episodes' run-times you were whining about before you even had the DVD.

You have no solid proof to say there are edits, so you can't call out like that. Because if it was like that originally, you just made a fool of yourself AGAIN.


The 2 part episode was fine. And I;m not whining I just made a observation from actually watching the episode instead of scanning through it

The 2 part episode was fine. And I;m not whining I just made a observation from actually watching the episode instead of scanning through it

You were whining and complaining like a little baby because it was not equaling 50 minutes when you failed to realize the 2-part episodes do not equal the half-hour episodes because the opening/closing theme only air once on there. This makes you look like a drama queen and a big whiner. You need to think before you do stuff.

So Pav what you are saying is when a episode starts and two people are already engaged in conversation and one of them is laughing, that is not a obvious edit????

Obviously Mr. Drummond already said something for her to laugh. Come on Pav

You don't know that for sure. Unless you have video proof, you can't say that. You can of course speculate, but to blatantly say it is edited would be horrible reporting. You need the proof. First, the episodes you mention are identical in run-time with the other half-hour episodes that you say is edit-free. Second, the episodes are not like syndicated prints or they would be 22-23 minutes or less, so you know something is edited if it was that low...only then you can mention it if you didn't have video proof. But to say something has a minor edit without any proof besides what you mentioned, would be horrible reporting. It's a good thing you are not in journalism, or you'd be fired after one day.

You were whining and complaining like a little baby because it was not equaling 50 minutes when you failed to realize the 2-part episodes do not equal the half-hour episodes because the opening/closing theme only air once on there. This makes you look like a drama queen and a big whiner. You need to think before you do stuff.


Ok I'm watching again.

Opening Credits roll and then after they are over

The lady sitting next to Mr. Drummond is laughing saying "oh stop"

And Mr. Drummond says..."No, the fact is I adopted Willis and Arnold because they are great kids"



So are you going to tell me that's not a EDIT???????? She obviously asked him why he decided to adopt Willis and arnold. So why can't you accept that this episode has a "OBVIOUS EDIT?"

You don't know that for sure. Unless you have video proof, you can't say that. You can of course speculate, but to blatantly say it is edited would be horrible reporting. You need the proof. First, the episodes you mention are identical in run-time with the other half-hour episodes that you say is edit-free. Second, the episodes are not like syndicated prints or they would be 22-23 minutes or less, so you know something is edited if it was that low...only then you can mention it if you didn't have video proof. But to say something has a minor edit without any proof besides what you mentioned, would be horrible reporting. It's a good thing you are not in journalism, or you'd be fired after one day.


So should I say a "questionable edit"?

That's your speculation. Runtimes are similar to other episodes. The episode could start out like that, you don't know that.

So should I say a "questionable edit"?

A "possible" missing line or scene would be better to say, but you don't know for sure. Look at the runtimes of those two episodes, it doesn't indicate anything is missing since it lines up with the other episodes.

I watched it myself and it doesn't look edited to me. There were a lot of episodes of the series which started in the middle of a conversation like that. Now, on the other hand, if somebody can show me a version of the episode, even a syndication version, which has something else intact before that, I'd be inclined to think of it as an obvious edit...

Here's the version as aired on BET: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwZtxy3MP5c

Granted, that is a syndicated version, but considering that the rest of the episode is seemingly intact on DVD, it would be awfully peculiar for a syndicated version to be missing that line as well as a "mostly unedited" one.

I watched it myself and it doesn't look edited to me. There were a lot of episodes of the series which started in the middle of a conversation like that. Now, on the other hand, if somebody can show me a version of the episode, even a syndication version, which has something else intact before that, I'd be inclined to think of it as an obvious edit...


That was the only episode on the DVD that started like that which is why I felt it may have been a slight edit. No other episode on the DVD starts with a conversation already in progress.

Ok the run time is 25:09 for the Magician and for Drummond's Fair Lady the run time is 25:09. So maybe it's not an edit but it looked like something was cut since we didn't know why the lady was laughing

Here's the version as aired on BET: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwZtxy3MP5c

Granted, that is a syndicated version, but considering that the rest of the episode is seemingly intact on DVD, it would be awfully peculiar for a syndicated version to be missing that line as well as a "mostly unedited" one.


Ok well looks like I maybe wrong but it was just something that looked cut. I mean atleast you know why I thought it was edited because the lady was already laughing.

I can't think of any specific examples on this set off top of my head as I would need to watch them all again to pay attention (it is something I never really think about), but it is pretty common on this series (and many sitcoms from the 70s and 80s) to start off an episode either in the middle of a conversation or more generally in the middle of anything. Use, for example, an episode where somebody visits a character on the series for some reason or another. We don't necessarily see them coming over or talking, but the episode may start with them walking out the door then the characters talking about why the character was there. It would be awfully weird for her to be there and just suddenly ask "Why did you adopt Arnold and Willis?" out of the blue, the response Mr. Drummond gives was a way to explain why she was there without going into a whole five minute scene where she would have to ring the doorbell, sit down, be offered coffee, then ask a series of questions leading to his answer. The way it is presented in the episode makes it very clear what she is doing and why she is there immediately, while anything which may have lead up to it is implied, for the viewer to recognize "oh, so this is what happened BEFORE these lines."

I can't think of any specific examples on this set off top of my head as I would need to watch them all again to pay attention (it is something I never really think about), but it is pretty common on this series (and many sitcoms from the 70s and 80s) to start off an episode either in the middle of a conversation or more generally in the middle of anything. Use, for example, an episode where somebody visits a character on the series for some reason or another. We don't necessarily see them coming over or talking, but the episode may start with them walking out the door then the characters talking about why the character was there. It would be awfully weird for her to be there and just suddenly ask "Why did you adopt Arnold and Willis?" out of the blue, the response Mr. Drummond gives was a way to explain why she was there without going into a whole five minute scene where she would have to ring the doorbell, sit down, be offered coffee, then ask a series of questions leading to his answer. The way it is presented in the episode makes it very clear what she is doing and why she is there immediately, while anything which may have lead up to it is implied, for the viewer to recognize "oh, so this is what happened BEFORE these lines."



Well I guess unless I can get the NBC episode I won't know for sure so for now we can just say unedited while I hunt for the NBC episode LOL.


As for the scene that looked edited in the episode "Substitute Mother", it looks like it jumps to another scene without a smooth transition.

As for the scene that looked edited in the episode "Substitute Mother", it looks like it jumps to another scene without a smooth transition.

You are wrong. It's not even a jump to another scene. Nothing wrong on that one either. Look 15:55 in from this syndicated version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgOsDA7bhjA#15m55s

You are wrong. It's not even a jump to another scene. Nothing wrong on that one either. Look 15:55 in from this syndicated version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgOsDA7bhjA#15m55s


Looks like a edit to me because once he sits down there is no salad in front of him and then all of a sudden he is chewing and saying it's good 5 secs later.

15:57 to 16:00


Tell me that is not a slight edit?

No, it is not an edit. He starts eating the salad right away and you even see Arnold didn't even close the door yet.

And that is not a jump to another scene. It's the same scene!

The salad is already in his bowl before he sits down. This one is not even a possible edit. No doubt about it.

Ok I didn't notice the salad in the bowl when he sat down so that's my error. But I will still hunt for the NBC episode of the Magician.

But as of now looks like i was wrong. I don't mind being proved wrong, it's called interesting conversation on a TV board:lol:

The salad is already in his bowl before he sits down. This one is not even a possible edit. No doubt about it.


Our dear Solomon could have a slight case of analytic paranoia. :lol:

Ok I didn't notice the salad in the bowl when he sat down so that's my error. But I will still hunt for the NBC episode of the Magician.

But as of now looks like i was wrong. I don't mind being proved wrong, it's called interesting conversation on a TV board:lol:

Interesting conversation? You blatantly called it an edit. That is false info! You were calling it a fact that it was edited. You need to remove yourself as a TVFactFan. Because that wasn't a fact. It was speculation. You need to need ask it as a question rather than just accusing them of editing it. How would you like it if I accuse you of something without "facts."

Our dear Solomon could have a slight case of analytic paranoia. :lol:


Tom if you look at the youtube link of "The Magician", you can see how I thought something was missing:lol:

Interesting conversation? You blatantly called it an edit. That is false info! You were calling it a fact that it was edited. You need to remove yourself as a TVFactFan. Because that wasn't a fact. It was speculation. You need to need ask it as a question rather than just accusing them of editing it. How would you like it if I accuse you of something without "facts."


You right Pav, my bad. See I wasn't even in a analyzing mood I was just watching the DVD and relaxing and all of a sudden when I saw the beginning of the Magician I was like..."wait a minute, something is missing."


But I should have just questioned if it was a edit. So you are right

I think the title of this thread should be changed otherwise people might see it and think episodes are edited on the set causing them not to purchase it.

I think the title of this thread should be changed otherwise people might see it and think episodes are edited on the set causing them not to purchase it.



Thanks, i just changed it

It is amazing how people notice edits that aren't there and won't notice that their is a 40 second scene missing from the Health Club episode. There is a dancing scene between Kimberly and Adelaide that was removed due to music rights.

I know this because that scene is intact with the Encore episodes.

I does not matter considering these are not syndicated episodes and run longer than they will in syndication so let's not complain about possible edits.

It is amazing how people notice edits that aren't there and won't notice that their is a 40 second scene missing from the Health Club episode. There is a dancing scene between Kimberly and Adelaide that was removed due to music rights.

I know this because that scene is intact with the Encore episodes.

I does not matter considering these are not syndicated episodes and run longer than they will in syndication so let's not complain about possible edits.
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