It was kind of nice to see that DNA testing cleared the husband. While most of the time police intuition is right, it makes me feel better that not every husband in one of these UM segments is a killer.

Great news... But imo, it was pretty obvious that her husband [was his name Jeff?] Was innocent. He was on of the most likeable ppl ever interviewed on UM..

Yeah, Jeff Oberholtzer seems like a straight-up, totally kind guy. It is obvious he misses Bobbi very much if you've read any articles or seen other shows about the case. What do you think happened? This is one of my favorite segments.

I wonder if the town cut down on hitching rides after these two murders... I really hope so!

Yeah, Jeff Oberholtzer seems like a straight-up, totally kind guy. It is obvious he misses Bobbi very much if you've read any articles or seen other shows about the case. What do you think happened? This is one of my favorite segments.
This is also one of my favorites. I can't believe it's not solved.

I understand that LE always has to look thoroughly at the spouse of a murder victim, but I think they developed a serve case of tunnel vision in regards to Jeff Oberholtzer and it might have distracted them from examining better leads for far too long.

I never understood why LE thought that Annette Schnee having his business card was such a damning piece of evidence. If Jeff had been planning to kill Annette, I don't think he would have given her his card first! And it was tucked away in her wallet, so it's not like it was a piece of evidence that could have accidentally been left behind in a struggle.

A couple years ago, the show "Sensing Murder" did a segment on the Orange Sock Murders and while I thought their psychic stuff was probably just a bunch of hooey, it was cool to see them do a more recent interview with Jeff Oberholtzer, who still seems like a very nice man.

I wonder if the town cut down on hitching rides after these two murders... I really hope so!

In the book, "Monster," by Steven Jackson, it says the town of Breckenridge went into a panic after these murders. People started locking their doors and many women went out to buy guns. But apparently not everyone quit hitchhiking right away. Just one month after both Bobbi and Annette were murdered hitching a ride our of Breckenridge, another woman named Mary Brown hitched a ride out of Breckenridge from Thomas Luther who drove her out somewhere and gave her some injuries that are so horrific, I can't even type them. She was able to escape but how she managed to survive such a brutal attack is beyond me. The timing and location of this attack still makes me think Luther was someone involved in the murders of Bobbi and Annette.

I agree with those who say Jeff seemed like a nice guy in both the UM segment and the Sensing Murder episode from 2006. The police always have to look at the spouse when a murder investigation starts. But the book 'Monster,' kind of hints that the police were doubtful Jeff could have been the killer because the timeline of Annette's murder, Bobbi's phone call home, Bobbi's murder, the visit of Jeff's friend Joe and the fact both men drove to a gas station to buy some beer while waiting for Bobbi to come home...it would have been impossible. Even so, Jeff wasn't completely cleared until until DNA testing became available in the 90's. The blood on Bobbi's mitten wasn't hers and it wasn't Jeff's. Investigators met with Jeff in a coffee shop to tell him that he was no longer a suspect. At that point, he broke down in tears and asked if the police were finally going to find the real killer(s). Poor Jeff. He spent about a decade being looked at as the main suspect and many people in the area didn't want him in their homes. Even after all that, he still comes across as a very down to earth guy.

Years back, I remember reading online that several years after the murders, Jeff eventually remarried and had a son. But he still wants desperately for the killer to be caught so both Bobbi and Annette's families can have some kind of closure.

http://www.summitdaily.com/article/20050827/NEWS/108270031

http://www.gazette.com/articles/mccormick-11302-psychics-oberholtzer.html

http://blogs.denverpost.com/coldcases/2008/06/01/two-young-hitchhikers-shot-and-dumped-near-breckenridge/34/

http://www.westword.com/1995-12-20/news/facing-the-monster/

These may have been posted elsewhere here and if they have, I apologize. :)

yeah, i never really thought Jeff did it. should he have been a suspect at first, yes, but charged, no. he didnt come off as a liar and while his knowing the other woman was out of nowhere, it doesnt make someone a killer. i still think the guy who did this was a sick guy who saw two sick opportunities and killed them because they could identify him.

It would be great to see this case solved.

They have DNA and this person killed twice. I doubt this person would voluntary stop and hopefully will be ID'ed.

They have DNA and this person killed twice. I doubt this person would voluntary stop and hopefully will be ID'ed.
However it needs to happen! We've seen some very strange and hard to solve cold cases get solved over the years. This is one that would be very fulfilling because this is one of the most memorable UM segments.

It would be great to have someone come forward in this case. like the people that were last seen with the victims or someone that was/is local that knows something. It's likely that the killer is from the area or has some type of connection to it. The DNA might not be the whole story because it could be someone else's(not the killer's) but at least a match would force someone to talk if not identify the killer himself.

I understand that LE always has to look thoroughly at the spouse of a murder victim, but I think they developed a serve case of tunnel vision in regards to Jeff Oberholtzer and it might have distracted them from examining better leads for far too long.

I never understood why LE thought that Annette Schnee having his business card was such a damning piece of evidence. If Jeff had been planning to kill Annette, I don't think he would have given her his card first! And it was tucked away in her wallet, so it's not like it was a piece of evidence that could have accidentally been left behind in a struggle.

A couple years ago, the show "Sensing Murder" did a segment on the Orange Sock Murders and while I thought their psychic stuff was probably just a bunch of hooey, it was cool to see them do a more recent interview with Jeff Oberholtzer, who still seems like a very nice man.
I thought it was strange too that the detective came on UM and said that when someone knows two of the victims the case tends to center around that person. It makes total sense that Jeff didn't remember her at first(maybe by name) and then when he saw her picture that he was honest and called them to inform them that he did meet her once. Why would he lie about that? I guess it is easy to look back now that he has been cleared, but it is frustrating when investigators go after one person rather than keeping all avenues open. Perhaps that wasn't the case here though. it could be possible that in this case they just had no leads and he was the only suspect that they had at that time when the segment was filmed.

A couple years ago, the show "Sensing Murder" did a segment on the Orange Sock Murders and while I thought their psychic stuff was probably just a bunch of hooey, it was cool to see them do a more recent interview with Jeff Oberholtzer, who still seems like a very nice man.

I watched this show recently on Netflix and came to see if anyone else had. I agree...the psychics seemed way off on this one. When then one said that Bobbi might have been killed out of jealousy to get back at "another man" (in this case, Jeff), I stopped holding out hope she was on to something.

It WAS nice to see Jeff again. You can tell he still loves her very much.

I watched this show recently on Netflix and came to see if anyone else had. I agree...the psychics seemed way off on this one. When then one said that Bobbi might have been killed out of jealousy to get back at "another man" (in this case, Jeff), I stopped holding out hope she was on to something.

It WAS nice to see Jeff again. You can tell he still loves her very much.
yeah I seen the psychic show too and while I can see two killers, I tend to go against their idea of it. I still believe it was just a sick guy who saw two sick opportunities and took them and then killed them both as they could identify him after he picked them up for a ride.

In the book, "Monster," by Steven Jackson, it says the town of Breckenridge went into a panic after these murders. People started locking their doors and many women went out to buy guns. But apparently not everyone quit hitchhiking right away. Just one month after both Bobbi and Annette were murdered hitching a ride our of Breckenridge, another woman named Mary Brown hitched a ride out of Breckenridge from Thomas Luther who drove her out somewhere and gave her some injuries that are so horrific, I can't even type them. She was able to escape but how she managed to survive such a brutal attack is beyond me. The timing and location of this attack still makes me think Luther was someone involved in the murders of Bobbi and Annette.

Wow, that's interesting to know. I wonder if LE ever did DNA testing on this guy Luther to see if his blood matched the blood found on the mitten. This guy should be a prime suspect in the Orange Sock murders, IMO.

Wow, that's interesting to know. I wonder if LE ever did DNA testing on this guy Luther to see if his blood matched the blood found on the mitten. This guy should be a prime suspect in the Orange Sock murders, IMO.

Apparently, he was the prime suspect for many years. The police just never released his name to the public, to my knowledge. The book also mentions other women that Luther attacked, one of which ended up dead. Every woman was petite with shoulder length hair. Bobbi and Annette both fall into that category. Luther also had access to many guns. When police questioned him about Bobbi and Annette, he told them that he was at work the day of and the day after the murders, which turned out to be a lie.

Despite all these facts, when DNA testing became available in the 90's, they tested the blood found on Bobbi's mitten and it did not match Luther's.

That was a huge setback obviously, but police think Luther was still somehow involved, and so do I.

Great news... But imo, it was pretty obvious that her husband [was his name Jeff?] Was innocent. He was on of the most likeable ppl ever interviewed on UM..

Yeah, he really comes across as decent fella :)

I understand that LE always has to look thoroughly at the spouse of a murder victim, but I think they developed a serve case of tunnel vision in regards to Jeff Oberholtzer and it might have distracted them from examining better leads for far too long.

I never understood why LE thought that Annette Schnee having his business card was such a damning piece of evidence. If Jeff had been planning to kill Annette, I don't think he would have given her his card first! And it was tucked away in her wallet, so it's not like it was a piece of evidence that could have accidentally been left behind in a struggle.

A couple years ago, the show "Sensing Murder" did a segment on the Orange Sock Murders and while I thought their psychic stuff was probably just a bunch of hooey, it was cool to see them do a more recent interview with Jeff Oberholtzer, who still seems like a very nice man.

The funny thing is what goes around comes around, first they had tunnel vision regarding Jeff being the killer then now according to a recent article in the Denver post cold cases blog the cops think some guy in Nevada state prison was somehow responsible even though this guys DNA doesnt match the DNA from the sock ........

A couple years ago, the show "Sensing Murder" did a segment on the Orange Sock Murders and while I thought their psychic stuff was probably just a bunch of hooey, it was cool to see them do a more recent interview with Jeff Oberholtzer, who still seems like a very nice man.

One of the psychics also made an interesting revelation regarding the possible location were Annette was raped and the detectives seemed intrigued , could interesting people living there at the time of the crimes .....

I picked up an old copy of "Murderers Among Us" from my bookshelf because I felt like reading about this case from a 1991 (pre-DNA) perspective. The author painted Jeff in a VERY unkind light. It was almost angering to reread it now, knowing he has been cleared.

I picked up an old copy of "Murderers Among Us" from my bookshelf because I felt like reading about this case from a 1991 (pre-DNA) perspective. The author painted Jeff in a VERY unkind light. It was almost angering to reread it now, knowing he has been cleared.

I wasn't as upset about the author's take on Jeff as I was about how Jeff's younger brother supposedly behaved, pointing the finger at him with pretty much zero basis.

I wasn't as upset about the author's take on Jeff as I was about how Jeff's younger brother supposedly behaved, pointing the finger at him with pretty much zero basis.

Interesting. I've never read this. Is it available online?

Interesting. I've never read this. Is it available online?

Not that I know of, but it's in Murderers Among Us (I was under the impression you had a copy. If not, I'll send you a pm. Just let me know).

Yeah, you can order the book on Amazon. It's by Stephen Michaud. It has a good handful of UM cases profiled in it, actually.

I picked up an old copy of "Murderers Among Us" from my bookshelf because I felt like reading about this case from a 1991 (pre-DNA) perspective. The author painted Jeff in a VERY unkind light. It was almost angering to reread it now, knowing he has been cleared.

A lot of things didnt look good in Jeff`s favor early on in this case and the allegations Jeff`s brother made against Jeff in that book didnt help at all

it kinda explains why cops were initially looking hard at Jeff in the early days, as well as that argument Jeff had with Bobbi about a cold pizza .....

:talk: What Jeff said about his brother in that book is also very revealing to say the least !