First of I love Conan's comedy. It was not suited for The Tonight Show. His target audience is more young adults and college students when he did Late Night and a good chunk of the older audience find his humor too silly and goofy. I love that type of slapstick humor. I love his TBS show where he can go back to his goofy and silly humor. What NBC loss became TBS fain. Hope Conan stay beyond 2014. I love him and Andy. They work so well together. You can tell those two are genuinely friends.

He never really had a fair shot at the gig in my opinion. Yes, Conan's humor is different from Jay Leno's, but it does skewer younger. Younger is what every network wants, so I think NBC screwed up royally here.

No, he never changed his style of humor to fit the Tonight Show. If he knew that he was going to be on at a different time why not adjust his style?

No, he never changed his style of humor to fit the Tonight Show. If he knew that he was going to be on at a different time why not adjust his style?


Why should he? NBC knew all along what they were getting.

Why should he? NBC knew all along what they were getting.


But a lot of people at 11:30pm didn't know-lol I only knew because my mom is obssessed with his gooofiness

No, he never changed his style of humor to fit the Tonight Show. If he knew that he was going to be on at a different time why not adjust his style?

He did tone himself down, and even on TBS he has for 11. He hasn't been as funny since he left his 12:35 gig, and that's coming from someone who watched that show religiously growing up. I can barely stand him and his 11pm show now on TBS. It's like watching Conan Lite, and that's not what I want.

He did tone himself down, and even on TBS he has for 11. He hasn't been as funny since he left his 12:35 gig, and that's coming from someone who watched that show religiously growing up. I can barely stand him and his 11pm show now on TBS. It's like watching Conan Lite, and that's not what I want.


It's hard for him to be a RELAXED FUNNY guy LOL

they screwed up every yonight show host has changed tthe format to fit there style and if the pinheadsat nbc who ran things at that time knew anything at all about the history of the tonight show they would have known that but instead they wanted conan to be just like jay and before that they wanted jay to be just like johnny and on and on

sorry for the bad spelling i got on a rant and typed too fast

Conan had no chance. The minute NBC kept Jay Leno and gave him a prime-time show, Conan was doomed.

Conan had no chance. The minute NBC kept Jay Leno and gave him a prime-time show, Conan was doomed.


They wanted JAY NUMBERS and when it didn't happen they was like goodbye-lol

The whole thing was wrought with bad decisions and even worse timing from everyone involved. I equally blame all parties. NBC screwed the pooch by hiring the polar opposite of Leno and immediately expecting the same numbers. Leno f'd up because.... well, he's Leno and throwing people under the bus is his career. Conan tried too hard to water down his humor in order to appease NBC and the critics. As an avid Conan fan since the late 90s, it was evident the show was basically "Conan Lite." I actually grew tired of it and stopped watching after 6 weeks. His Tonight Show stint is definitely the weakest of his 3 shows. So no, I do not believe he was a good fit.

Conan made it clear on his last Late Night Show that he was not going to changw his style. He stated that someone said when he went to The Tonight Show that it was time for him to grow up. He knows he is who he is. That's too bad because he should not left Late Night. He was great on there once he hit his stride.

Why should he? NBC knew all along what they were getting.

Wrong! Conan did change his humor for Tonight and it BOMBED! You could tell from the very first Tonight Show with Conan that Conan was different than his late night days!

Plus you guys realize Conan was actually LOSING viewers at Late Night on NBC? Even Ferguson beat him some nights! He was down to 1.5 million viewers a night! Leno had over 5 million viewers a night!! Only a FOOL would replace Leno when he was on top like that! Leno was destroying Letterman every night in the ratings yet when Conan took over Letterman beat Conan's Tonight!

This is all Zucker's fault! He was a TOTAL moron for replacing a legend like Leno who was number 1 in the ratings for 15 years! Now Leno is back where he belongs and Conan is where he belongs on a network where no one sees him! :lol:

He never really had a fair shot at the gig in my opinion. Yes, Conan's humor is different from Jay Leno's, but it does skewer younger. Younger is what every network wants, so I think NBC screwed up royally here.

^^This^^

This is all Zucker's fault! He was a TOTAL moron for replacing a legend like Leno who was number 1 in the ratings for 15 years! Now Leno is back where he belongs and Conan is where he belongs on a network where no one sees him! :lol:

Conan's ratings have increased overall since he started at TBS, he recently signed a contract extending him to 2014, he has a HUGE online presence, an attractive highly-involved young audience, and his own production company. TBS has made him the focal point of a network on the upswing. Meanwhile Leno's ratings have fallen in a sure sign that he's done irreparable damage to his integrity after the debacle. He used to crush Letterman consistently, now he can barely win with marginal numbers and even falls behind from time to time.

I reckon Leno is to television as Ty Cobb was to baseball. The history books will recall one of the most solid performers in history (numbers don't lie) with an asterisk noting ethics and practices so revolting that he's ultimately a Great Black Mark.

I think Conan was a good fit.And it would of just took a little time.I don't think it was right at all that Jay gave him the show.And then decided he wanted it back and took it.That's not the way things should be done.I think Conan is funnier than Jay if you ask me.I also agree i think they made a mistake .

Conan's ratings have increased overall since he started at TBS, he recently signed a contract extending him to 2014, he has a HUGE online presence, an attractive highly-involved young audience, and his own production company. TBS has made him the focal point of a network on the upswing. Meanwhile Leno's ratings have fallen in a sure sign that he's done irreparable damage to his integrity after the debacle. He used to crush Letterman consistently, now he can barely win with marginal numbers and even falls behind from time to time.

I reckon Leno is to television as Ty Cobb was to baseball. The history books will recall one of the most solid performers in history (numbers don't lie) with an asterisk noting ethics and practices so revolting that he's ultimately a Great Black Mark.

NONSENSE! Leno is the master of the monologue!

Just ask anyone who saw Leno doing clubs 300 days of the year before he got the Tonight Show. He mastered his craft by being a true stand up comedian in all sorts of dive clubs!

Conan, on the other hand, has ZERO stand up experience! During the summer before Conan got Tonight I saw an interview where Conan admitted he has NO stand up experience! ZERO! ZILCH! NADA! His Tonight Show monologues were downright horrible and that's why he lost the show! People changed the channel when they saw he couldn't tell a joke!

Letterman had been losing to Tonight consistently for 15 years yet when Conan took over Letterman beat Tonight consistently!

NONSENSE! Leno is the master of the monologue!

Just ask anyone who saw Leno doing clubs 300 days of the year before he got the Tonight Show. He mastered his craft by being a true stand up comedian in all sorts of dive clubs!

Conan, on the other hand, has ZERO stand up experience! During the summer before Conan got Tonight I saw an interview where Conan admitted he has NO stand up experience! ZERO! ZILCH! NADA! His Tonight Show monologues were downright horrible and that's why he lost the show! People changed the channel when they saw he couldn't tell a joke!

Letterman had been losing to Tonight consistently for 15 years yet when Conan took over Letterman beat Tonight consistently!
Yea Leno was so wonderful that NBC affiliates were begging NBC to cancel his show. :lol: Since he's been back at The Tonight Show, his ratings have been mediocre at best. He's lost a lot of fans over the last few years.

Yea Leno was so wonderful that NBC affiliates were begging NBC to cancel his show. :lol: Since he's been back at The Tonight Show, his ratings have been mediocre at best. He's lost a lot of fans over the last few years.

Conan has lost fans too! His peak audience on Late Night on NBC was around 2 million yet he was down to 1.5 million when he left for Tonight. Even Fergie beat him some nights!

His latest ratings show he's down to 900K! :lol:

Leno still has almost 4 million viewers! Leno is still the KING!

In just seven months, I watched way more episodes of The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien as host than I have during Leno's intermittent nineteen years as host.

Conan's a doofus, he should of never gotten the Tonight Show to begin with. Lord, what was NBC thinking?

They were thinking (in 2004) that they didn't want to lose Conan the way they lost Letterman eleven years earlier. Unfortunately, the Conan/Leno fiasco ended up being far worse than the Letterman/Leno episode.

They were thinking (in 2004) that they didn't want to lose Conan the way they lost Letterman eleven years earlier. Unfortunately, the Conan/Leno fiasco ended up being far worse than the Letterman/Leno episode.

I wouldn't necessarily say that.

The irony is neither Fox or ABC ever offered Conan a deal! Zucker could've let Conan walk and Leno would've trounced him in the ratings just like he is now!

ABC already had/has an established late-night lineup, and the majority of Fox affiliates weren't willing to give up their late-night syndicated shows (mostly sitcom reruns), which give them more ad revenue than a network program ever could. There simply was no room for Conan on broadcast television after he left NBC.

ABC already had/has an established late-night lineup, and the majority of Fox affiliates weren't willing to give up their late-night syndicated shows (mostly sitcom reruns), which give them more ad revenue than a network program ever could. There simply was no room for Conan on broadcast television after he left NBC.

EXACTLY!

Yet Zucker was too stupid to realize that and he ran NBC! You're smart enough to realize that. You wanna run NBC? :lol:

http://pagesix.com/2015/02/02/ex-leno-staffer-disses-conan-in-new-book/

"He has been on the air for 22 years, but he still has the same nervous tics he had in 1993," Jon Macks says of the "Conan" host in his book, "Monologue: What Makes America Laugh . . . Before Bed."