While I'm finally thankful that Warner finally released the complete first season of Alice on DVD and I think most of the episodes look and sound great, however, once again the young people who work in these departments who produce these things have once again done a sloppy job and not done their homework. And quite frankly in my humble opinion couldn't care less about what they are working on! Because some of the episodes are very poorly edited and rushed when breaking for a pause where the commercial usually went, most noticeably in the first break for the episode A Call to Arms. There is no pause between Act 1 & Act 2 in this episode. And in some of the other episodes before the theme is just ending, we have the first act already rushing in and beginning. Sloppy!:mad:

Now the biggest mistake so far on this whole DVD set is on Disc #3. where the first two episodes are out of order! :rolleyes:

Yes some idiot at Warner messed up by putting episode #18: "The Hex" as the first episode on Disc #3 which originally aired on 2-5-77 before episode #17: "The Failure" which originally aired first on 1-29-77. :(

So if someone at Warner is reading this or someone would like to notify them to correct any MOD future sets, that would be helpful! This is not the first time I have noticed that someone at Warner Home Video has screwed up when it comes our favorite TV shows on DVD because I know they also messed up on some of the opening scenes on the third season DVD set of Gilligan's Island too!
WARNER, GET IT TOGETHER ALREADY! THESE DVD'S ARE NOT FREE!!

Thanks I won't be rushing to purchase this DVD because of this. Why wasn't this mentioned on the sitcomsonline DVD review:confused:

Thanks I won't be rushing to purchase this DVD because of this. Why wasn't this mentioned on the sitcomsonline DVD review:confused:


LOL...you guys are too much...really...not buying it because two episodes are out of order ?? And the editing is bad...??? I dont see it...I am very happy with my set and I am waiting for season 2 since I am nearly done with Season 1.

LOL...you guys are too much...really...not buying it because two episodes are out of order ?? And the editing is bad...??? I dont see it...I am very happy with my set and I am waiting for season 2 since I am nearly done with Season 1.
Agree with Ron Ron. I wasn't going to reply in this thread but I couldn't resist. It's too funny how picky some people are. I'm very happy with my set and can't wait for season 2!

Well I did buy it and and in this time of economic recession where people like me have to shell out $35.00 for a DVD set with flaws, we can be picky! If I wanted such a sloppy job, I would have just recorded them myself off cable. Now if they were giving away this DVD for free then, I personally would not really have said anything! However the fans do need to know about the problems with this set and make up their own minds whether they still want to buy it or not? Now with that said, I will say it again, the episodes were rushed and poorly edited and the two episodes being out of order is a big deal for most serious fans of the show. TVShowsonDVD.com has suggested that we all call and complain to Warner about the problems. Their customer service number is 866-373-4389. Hopefully the dummies at Warner can fix the problem with future MOD sets of Alice like they did with The Bionic Woman Season 2 DVD flaws when enough fans called Universal and complained and Universal fixed the problem! Thanks.

There is that fine line between picky and insane perfectionism.

"insane perfectionism?" This is not even about a little perfectionism or there would be a whole list of what's wrong with this DVD set! However, there are mistakes that can easily be fixed.
But thanks for your opinion though!;)

Just spoke to Customer Service at Warner. Their customer service number is 866-373-4389. They said if a few people call in about the problems, they will more than likely try to correct them and issue another set and with an episode guide too! So make sure you call up about the problems. Thanks.

1.) DISC 1 Episode #5 A Call To Arms Problem: No pause between Act 1 & Act 2
2.) DISC 3 Episode #18 The Hex (OAD: 2-5-77) and Episode #17: The Failure (OAD: 1-29-77) are out of order.
3.) No Episode Guide was included with the DVD set.

Hopefully if a enough fans call up and let Warner know about these faults, they'll be a new girl, I mean a new DVD in town!:wave:

I'd rather call them and ask when Season 2 is coming out. :D

Just spoke to Customer Service at Warner. Their customer service number is 866-373-4389. They said if a few people call in about the problems, they will more than likely try to correct them and issue another set and with an episode guide too! So make sure you call up about the problems. Thanks.

1.) DISC 1 Episode #5 A Call To Arms Problem: No pause between Act 1 & Act 2
2.) DISC 3 Episode #18 The Hex (OAD: 2-5-77) and Episode #17: The Failure (OAD: 1-29-77) are out of order.
3.) No Episode Guide was included with the DVD set.

Hopefully if a enough fans call up and let Warner know about these faults, they'll be a new girl, I mean a new DVD in town!:wave:


The episode guide not being included was mentioned in the SitcomsOnline DVD Review

LOL...you guys are too much...really...not buying it because two episodes are out of order ?? And the editing is bad...??? I dont see it...I am very happy with my set and I am waiting for season 2 since I am nearly done with Season 1.


Edited episodes on a DVD is not a laughing matter

Edited episodes on a DVD is not a laughing matter
Edited is when something is left out....nothing was left out.....the mentioned poster is talking about how one scene flows to the next....I saw no problem there....if there was one it is a slight one at best and doesnt distract from viewing that episode. I have seen the episode and didnt notice it...so I think it's a waste of time to complain. They aren't going to fix it. Remember this is a MOD release not a regular in stores one. You and others should be satisfied it is on DVD at all. If you dont want to purchase the dvd fine. But quit trying to bring down the release for others.....you have told us already about the problems quit telling us to call,,,most if not who responded on here arent going to and the review didnt mention any problems with editing.

Edited is when something is left out....nothing was left out.....the mentioned poster is talking about how one scene flows to the next....I saw no problem there....if there was one it is a slight one at best and doesnt distract from viewing that episode. I have seen the episode and didnt notice it...so I think it's a waste of time to complain. They aren't going to fix it. Remember this is a MOD release not a regular in stores one. You and others should be satisfied it is on DVD at all. If you dont want to purchase the dvd fine. But quit trying to bring down the release for others.....you have told us already about the problems quit telling us to call,,,most if not who responded on here arent going to and the review didnt mention any problems with editing.


Again, I said I won't RUSH to buy it because of the information. I never said I wouldn't purchase it

Anyone reading this thread is free to do what they want but for the most part Warner has already stated that they will take a look at the problems and possibly correct the mistakes if enough people call in. It's not that difficult to correct since this is a MOD. This was suggested by Gordon at TVShowsonDVD.com. With that said, you're free to settle and keep your sloppy DVD set and just be happy but there will be many other fans out there who want their money's worth. Thanks.

Thanks for taking the time to let everyone know about these issues Jack77. I still plan on ordering a copy in the very near future.

Anyone reading this thread is free to do what they want but for the most part Warner has already stated that they will take a look at the problems and possibly correct the mistakes if enough people call in. It's not that difficult to correct since this is a MOD. This was suggested by Gordon at TVShowsonDVD.com. With that said, you're free to settle and keep your sloppy DVD set and just be happy but there will be many other fans out there who want their money's worth. Thanks.

There hasnt even been any news by Gordon about issues with this DVD release. GMAB.......I'll keep my sloppy disks as you say...you are the reason why DVDs are never released because of nitpicking....really....boils my mind:mad:

Why don't they just turn the show over to the people at Shout! Factory? Wouldn't it be to their benefit, in the long run? They screwed up on Season 1 of Eight is Enough, also!

Thanks I won't be rushing to purchase this DVD because of this. Why wasn't this mentioned on the sitcomsonline DVD review:confused:

It's a minor mistake. It will be corrected on future DVDs, so not a big deal. It's not the like this show has to be watched in order.

It's a minor mistake. It will be corrected on future DVDs, so not a big deal. It's not the like this show has to be watched in order.


Everyone knows you watch a DVD in "airdate order"

Everyone knows you watch a DVD in "airdate order"

No, many DVDs are in production order, too...

I can somewhat understand the frustration over the episodes being out of order (I didn't even notice it myself, primarily because it only really affected one episode and there really aren't any episodes in the first season which depend upon previous episodes), but concerns about how much black space there is between acts? I had to go back and rewatch this myself... and I did so several times... and all I saw was a very short transition between the acts on the episode. But nothing seemed to be wrong or missing to me. They could do 10 seconds of black space as well. But that isn't going to be correct either. Honestly, nothing would be correct by this standard unless they put in enough black space to equal the time for the entire commercial load... and then it would just be annoying to see minutes of black space.

No, many DVDs are in production order, too...


Even if they are I watch them in airdate order by going to tv.com

There hasnt even been any news by Gordon about issues with this DVD release. GMAB.......I'll keep my sloppy disks as you say...you are the reason why DVDs are never released because of nitpicking....really....boils my mind:mad:


First of all Gordon was the one who suggested to me to contact Warner about the problem when I brought it to his attention! He thought that I would have more pull as a paying customer of the DVD.
Second of all, your statement about me being the reason that DVD's are never released is very ignorant of you and absolutely not true! And if your mind really boils over such issues, then I strongly suggest you log off your PC now and seek out therapy! Thanks.:wave:

While I'm finally thankful that Warner finally released the complete first season of Alice on DVD and I think most of the episodes look and sound great, however, once again the young people who work in these departments who produce these things have once again done a sloppy job and not done their homework. And quite frankly in my humble opinion couldn't care less about what they are working on! Because some of the episodes are very poorly edited and rushed when breaking for a pause where the commercial usually went, most noticeably in the first break for the episode A Call to Arms. There is no pause between Act 1 & Act 2 in this episode. And in some of the other episodes before the theme is just ending, we have the first act already rushing in and beginning. Sloppy!:mad:

Now the biggest mistake so far on this whole DVD set is on Disc #3. where the first two episodes are out of order! :rolleyes:

Yes some idiot at Warner messed up by putting episode #18: "The Hex" as the first episode on Disc #3 which originally aired on 2-5-77 before episode #17: "The Failure" which originally aired first on 1-29-77. :(

So if someone at Warner is reading this or someone would like to notify them to correct any MOD future sets, that would be helpful! This is not the first time I have noticed that someone at Warner Home Video has screwed up when it comes our favorite TV shows on DVD because I know they also messed up on some of the opening scenes on the third season DVD set of Gilligan's Island too!
WARNER, GET IT TOGETHER ALREADY! THESE DVD'S ARE NOT FREE!!
Its also maddening since the MOD releases aren't likely to have any extra features, and yet were paying premium price for them.

First of all Gordon was the one who suggested to me to contact Warner about the problem when I brought it to his attention! He thought that I would have more pull as a paying customer of the DVD.
Second of all, your statement about me being the reason that DVD's are never released is very ignorant of you and absolutely not true! And if your mind really boils over such issues, then I strongly suggest you log off your PC now and seek out therapy! Thanks.:wave:
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Its also maddening since the MOD releases aren't likely to have any extra features, and yet were paying premium price for them.

I wouldn't really say we're paying premium prices for them. $30 (and even $40) is the typical MSRP for many sets out there, but the volume of sales and a ton of competition drives those prices down, and for standard DVDs that we buy at retail outlets, it is almost unheard of to pay the actual MSRP. The MOD releases sell a fraction of what a standard DVD set does (we'll never know actual numbers because I highly doubt anybody would release those, but I have a feeling it is along the lines of an elephant vs. a mouse), but that doesn't make the cost of putting them together (authoring the discs, creating the package artwork, etc.) cost less... so they're forced to cut corners, which they did in this case by not bothering with an episode insert and no special features. I know, for instance, that Family Guy DVDs have been among the top sellers in TV-on-DVD. The ongoing costs with those DVDs essentially include reproducing DVDs which have been readily available for nearly a decade in the case of the earlier seasons... probably a few pennies. Something like Alice has to be created from scratch for a much smaller audience (there may be a lot of fans out there, but the demand just isn't there for a 35 year old series which has been neglected in syndication in recent years), and even at $30 a pop, there really is no guarantee that Warner will even recoup that what has been invested into it (though they likely will).

It's not enough of an issue for me not to buy it, esp since we aren't going to get Alice reran unedited anytime soon. I know I complain about the Eight is Enough season 1 DVD and maybe I went a little melodramatic doing it. I understand the feeling that someone at Warner is just not paying close attention to some of these releases. Anyways, I'm glad Alice is coming out, period!

It's not enough of an issue for me not to buy it, esp since we aren't going to get Alice reran unedited anytime soon. I know I complain about the Eight is Enough season 1 DVD and maybe I went a little melodramatic doing it. I understand the feeling that someone at Warner is just not paying close attention to some of these releases. Anyways, I'm glad Alice is coming out, period!

It isn't just that we probably won't see it reran unedited anytime soon... we're hitting the point now where it is unlikely we'll see it reran edited OR unedited anytime soon. There aren't any cable channels dedicated to older TV anymore (the only thing that comes close is TV Land, which used to be, but is now more focused on the past two decades and only the really big and "never out of syndication" series from before that), and while we do have the broadcast digital channels, it is interesting to note that, despite airing series from just about every major studio (Universal, Sony, CBS, Fox, MGM), we haven't seen Antenna, MeTV, or RTV (even though they're not even in a league close to the other two now) air even one episode of anything from the Warner library. I hope that I'm wrong, because I would love to see Alice on TV somewhere...

It isn't just that we probably won't see it reran unedited anytime soon... we're hitting the point now where it is unlikely we'll see it reran edited OR unedited anytime soon. There aren't any cable channels dedicated to older TV anymore (the only thing that comes close is TV Land, which used to be, but is now more focused on the past two decades and only the really big and "never out of syndication" series from before that), and while we do have the broadcast digital channels, it is interesting to note that, despite airing series from just about every major studio (Universal, Sony, CBS, Fox, MGM), we haven't seen Antenna, MeTV, or RTV (even though they're not even in a league close to the other two now) air even one episode of anything from the Warner library. I hope that I'm wrong, because I would love to see Alice on TV somewhere...


Seems like Alice should land on Antenna TV eventually after seeing the pickup of WKRP, Barney Miller, and Maude

It isn't just that we probably won't see it reran unedited anytime soon... we're hitting the point now where it is unlikely we'll see it reran edited OR unedited anytime soon. There aren't any cable channels dedicated to older TV anymore (the only thing that comes close is TV Land, which used to be, but is now more focused on the past two decades and only the really big and "never out of syndication" series from before that), and while we do have the broadcast digital channels, it is interesting to note that, despite airing series from just about every major studio (Universal, Sony, CBS, Fox, MGM), we haven't seen Antenna, MeTV, or RTV (even though they're not even in a league close to the other two now) air even one episode of anything from the Warner library. I hope that I'm wrong, because I would love to see Alice on TV somewhere...

I would love to see it reran too. All these channels and yet we have so many series just sitting in vaults.

LOL...you guys are too much...really...not buying it because two episodes are out of order ?? And the editing is bad...??? I dont see it...I am very happy with my set and I am waiting for season 2 since I am nearly done with Season 1.


Same here. While I like perfection I can live with an episode out of order. At least there are no scenes missing as far as I can tell. Hell, I haven't seen this show in over 12 years so I wouldn't know, lol. I'm anxiously awaiting season two ;)

Same here. While I like perfection I can live with an episode out of order. At least there are no scenes missing as far as I can tell. Hell, I haven't seen this show in over 12 years so I wouldn't know, lol. I'm anxiously awaiting season two ;)


Episodes being out of order is minor but editing is always a MAJOR ISSUE because the fun part of buying DVD's of old shows is to see things you never seen before.

Now I haven't seen Alice enough in syndication to know what was edited and can only go by if the episode is 25 mins long.

Just spoke to Customer Service at Warner. Their customer service number is 866-373-4389. They said if a few people call in about the problems, they will more than likely try to correct them and issue another set and with an episode guide too! So make sure you call up about the problems. Thanks.

1.) DISC 1 Episode #5 A Call To Arms Problem: No pause between Act 1 & Act 2
2.) DISC 3 Episode #18 The Hex (OAD: 2-5-77) and Episode #17: The Failure (OAD: 1-29-77) are out of order.
3.) No Episode Guide was included with the DVD set.

Hopefully if a enough fans call up and let Warner know about these faults, they'll be a new girl, I mean a new DVD in town!:wave:

Well, do the people who bought from the first batch get an episode guide??
I rushed to buy this, because I understood the first batch of Alice Season 1 was supposed to be pressed on regular DVD!!

I bought early and got a pressed set, but no episode guide in mine. No worries, I can tell by the titles which show it is anyway. I rarely even look at inserts in the DVDs I buy.

I bought early and got a pressed set, but no episode guide in mine. No worries, I can tell by the titles which show it is anyway. I rarely even look at inserts in the DVDs I buy.


Any DVD release without a episode guide sounds like a Bootlegg version from someone who burns TV shows and sells them. I know it's not that big of a deal but i just never heard of such a crappy release with no episode guide

Any DVD release without a episode guide sounds like a Bootlegg version from someone who burns TV shows and sells them. I know it's not that big of a deal but i just never heard of such a crappy release with no episode guide

None of the WB Demand DVDs have episode guides. I like the other poster look at the guide once and thats it. Its no big deal to me as I really have use for it. Just dont buy the DVD.....I am tired of you trashing the DVD release. Everywhere I have gone and read the reviews for this release from buyers has been positive...all 5 stars. The only person that gave it below 5 stars was because he/she already owned it via Itunes on her computer. I can just see them not releasing anymore because of complaints about an episode insert and the complaining they are getting from it. No way does this set look like a bootlegg dvd. Dont like it...dont buy it...simple.....and stop trashing it.

None of the WB Demand DVDs have episode guides. I like the other poster look at the guide once and thats it. Its no big deal to me as I really have use for it. Just dont buy the DVD.....I am tired of you trashing the DVD release. Everywhere I have gone and read the reviews for this release from buyers has been positive...all 5 stars. The only person that gave it below 5 stars was because he/she already owned it via Itunes on her computer. I can just see them not releasing anymore because of complaints about an episode insert and the complaining they are getting from it. No way does this set look like a bootlegg dvd. Dont like it...dont buy it...simple.....and stop trashing it.

I'm not trashing the release just the lack of episode guide. I haven't analyzed it yet to trash the release

I'm not trashing the release just the lack of episode guide. I haven't analyzed it yet to trash the release

You compared it to a bootlegg..so yes you are trashing it.

You compared it to a bootlegg..so yes you are trashing it.


Isn't that how most DVD sets are when you buy them from a person and not receiving them from a store??????????????

these problems don't seem to exist on Amazon's video on demand version of Season 1.

You compared it to a bootlegg..so yes you are trashing it.

Bootleg? Nah. Not at all.

The fact that it is out of order with those two eps is an issue...but I'm with you. It's not that big of a deal. I have a problem with it as Solomon makes a good point that it takes away from the fun of it. Plus, accuracy is a must. However, its not that bad as it will not prevent me from buying the show. I like the show and I'd like to see it.

Bootleg? Nah. Not at all.

The fact that it is out of order with those two eps is an issue...but I'm with you. It's not that big of a deal. I have a problem with it as Solomon makes a good point that it takes away from the fun of it. Plus, accuracy is a must. However, its not that bad as it will not prevent me from buying the show. I like the show and I'd like to see it.


Yeah i still plan to buy the show it just fell down on my list of to buy shows

With all the botched DVD releases of so many shows, where scenes are cut, I have zero problem with 'Alice' from Warner on Demand. I am grateful that it's finally on DVD, with no dialogue missing.

Meh, I'm just happy and grateful to have it. It doesn't have to be PERFECT. For all these ppl saying they won't buy things if they are not 100% perfect, I'd rather have it this way than NOT have it at all.

These shows are getting harder and harder to find, so I think I'm lucky just to have it.

Meh, I'm just happy and grateful to have it. It doesn't have to be PERFECT. For all these ppl saying they won't buy things if they are not 100% perfect, I'd rather have it this way than NOT have it at all.

These shows are getting harder and harder to find, so I think I'm lucky just to have it.



I rather wait to see if it's a complete series released

I ordered and received season 1 and 2 I'm on disc 2 of season 1 and really enjoying the show. I forgot how good this show was happy to see this one.

Glad to hear that, Joey :)