View Full Version : Since season 4 was the only incomplete season on DVD I wonder if it will


TVFactFan
06-12-2012, 08:25 PM
be re-released? Who can we talk to? I;m still bothered by this and would like to know a reason why ONE episode was edited out of 23:confused:

Pavan
06-12-2012, 11:24 PM
You don't have proof that episode was edited. Don't assume.

TVFactFan
06-12-2012, 11:27 PM
You don't have proof that episode was edited. Don't assume.


Can you talk to someone about it? Because we both know it was cut a little

*Pleasant Tomorrow*
06-12-2012, 11:46 PM
Which one and what was edited? I've never heard this.

TVFactFan
06-12-2012, 11:48 PM
Which one and what was edited? I've never heard this.


The Tag scene was not included for the episode Ralph's Rival in season 4

Pavan
06-13-2012, 01:07 AM
*IF* there was a tag scene.

TVFactFan
06-13-2012, 01:12 AM
*IF* there was a tag scene.


I'm sure it's someone you can ask out of all people so this can be put to rest

*Pleasant Tomorrow*
06-13-2012, 01:33 AM
lol you guys were around for the original run. Either you remember there was one, or you don't?

TVFactFan
06-13-2012, 01:54 AM
lol you guys were around for the original run. Either you remember there was one, or you don't?

No we wasn't around for the original run but since that was the only episode from season 4 that didn't have a TAG scene. So something is obviously wrong:lol:

*Pleasant Tomorrow*
06-13-2012, 03:39 AM
No we wasn't around for the original run but since that was the only episode from season 4 that didn't have a TAG scene. So something is obviously wrong:lol:
Oh okay, I see what you're saying now. I guess I've never thought about it before.

Skywalker
06-13-2012, 02:26 PM
Does Antenna TV show the tag scenes? That may be your best chance to find out if there really is a tag scene. Another idea is to find someone from Canada who taped the show when it aired on deja vu or whatever it's called. I heard they aired the show uncut.

BigManMike
06-13-2012, 02:30 PM
No Antenna TV doesn't air the tag scenes.

TVFactFan
06-13-2012, 05:56 PM
Does Antenna TV show the tag scenes? That may be your best chance to find out if there really is a tag scene. Another idea is to find someone from Canada who taped the show when it aired on deja vu or whatever it's called. I heard they aired the show uncut.


Antenna TV shows the local syndicated prints so you wouldn't see a tag scene

cloggedmind
06-15-2012, 03:15 PM
Which one and what was edited? I've never heard this. Bruno shows there's no hard feelings and offers to shake and make up with Tripper and Furley. You guessed it-- the hilarious "knuckle crusher" handshake follows.

TVFactFan
06-15-2012, 03:17 PM
Bruno shows there's no hard feelings and offers to shake and make up with Tripper and Furley. You guessed it-- the hilarious "knuckle crusher" handshake follows.


All we can do is speculate since we don't really know what happened

cloggedmind
06-15-2012, 03:41 PM
All we can do is speculate since we don't really know what happened Kinda. This is one show I obsessed over all those years ago, and I was around for original airings and the first runs in syndication on ABC, at 11 and 11:30 in the mornings. When, and if a clip turns up, you'll see Chrissy insist that Bruno apologize to Jack for knocking him in the gut. The handshake is the knuckle crusher. Bruno offers his hand to Furley, who refuses, doing his karate hands bit. I saw these shows so many times years ago, omissions like that just stand out.

TVFactFan
06-15-2012, 03:46 PM
Kinda. This is one show I obsessed over all those years ago, and I was around for original airings and the first runs in syndication on ABC, at 11 and 11:30 in the mornings. When, and if a clip turns up, you'll see Chrissy insist that Bruno apologize to Jack for knocking him in the gut. The handshake is the knuckle crusher. Bruno offers his hand to Furley, who refuses, doing his karate hands bit. I saw these shows so many times years ago, omissions like that just stand out.


Well without proof no one would be able to take your post seriously. Plus not knowing how older you are it would be kind of hard to take you seriously. You would have to be atleast 46 years old or older

cloggedmind
06-15-2012, 03:54 PM
Well without proof no one would be able to take your post seriously. Plus not knowing how older you are it would be kind of hard to take you seriously. You would have to be atleast 46 years old or older A fair enough conclusion. I was born in '72.. I can't imagine why I'd have to be 46?..

Skywalker
06-15-2012, 04:03 PM
Kinda. This is one show I obsessed over all those years ago, and I was around for original airings and the first runs in syndication on ABC, at 11 and 11:30 in the mornings. When, and if a clip turns up, you'll see Chrissy insist that Bruno apologize to Jack for knocking him in the gut. The handshake is the knuckle crusher. Bruno offers his hand to Furley, who refuses, doing his karate hands bit. I saw these shows so many times years ago, omissions like that just stand out.

I believe you. This has been going on for a couple of years and I honestly didn't think there ever was a Tag scene for this episode or one was filmed but never used, but you went into so much detail it's hard to doubt you. I'm going to find someone who recorded it on deja view and try and make a trade. I'm sure it would be pretty difficult to find an original airing of Ralph's Rival. :lol:

Thanks for clearing this up, for me anyway. :wave:

Mr. Television
06-15-2012, 04:03 PM
I googled it and found someone else mention that same tag scene.

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/t/212019/threes-company-season-four-is-something-missing

Mr. Television
06-15-2012, 04:06 PM
Kinda. This is one show I obsessed over all those years ago, and I was around for original airings and the first runs in syndication on ABC, at 11 and 11:30 in the mornings. When, and if a clip turns up, you'll see Chrissy insist that Bruno apologize to Jack for knocking him in the gut. The handshake is the knuckle crusher. Bruno offers his hand to Furley, who refuses, doing his karate hands bit. I saw these shows so many times years ago, omissions like that just stand out.
I used to audio record TC but I didn't start doing in until 1982 . If it happened to one of the later shows, I'd probably remember it. I was obsessed with it back then. That show does sound familiar though.

TVFactFan
06-15-2012, 04:08 PM
A fair enough conclusion. I was born in '72.. I can't imagine why I'd have to be 46?..


Because that means you were only 7 when that episode aired so it's no way I can take your statement seriously. How many 7 year old is watching a 30 min sitcoms every week?

SO no I can't take you seriously

cloggedmind
06-15-2012, 04:13 PM
Because that means you were only 7 when that episode aired so it's no way I can take your statement seriously. How many 7 year old is watching a 30 min sitcoms every week?

SO no I can't take you seriously I used to watch and record shows like Three's Company and The Jeffersons every week-- on audio tape, mind you! Sometimes whole, sometimes just bits. Same with the Three Stooges. Weird kid, I know.

Mr. Television
06-15-2012, 04:16 PM
I used to watch and record shows like Three's Company and The Jeffersons every week-- on audio tape, mind you! Sometimes whole, sometimes just bits. Same with the Three Stooges. Weird kid, I know.
I did too and I used to listen to mine so much that I memorized the dialogue.

Skywalker
06-15-2012, 04:23 PM
I googled it and found someone else mention that same tag scene.

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/t/212019/threes-company-season-four-is-something-missing

Thanks for posting this, Sonny. :cool: The posters on the HTF generally know what they're talking about. I've seen threads go on for several pages arguing about edited episodes. :lol:

Mr. Television
06-15-2012, 04:33 PM
Thanks for posting this, Sonny. :cool: The posters on the HTF generally know what they're talking about. I've seen threads go on for several pages arguing about edited episodes. :lol:
You're welcome Justin. :) I don't know if it's true or not but 2 different people talking about it makes me wonder. It does sound familiar. If I saw it, I'd probably remember it. :lol: I know a few of those early tags on the DVD's I had forgotten about but once I saw them, I remembered them.

TVFactFan
06-15-2012, 04:36 PM
You're welcome Justin. :) I don't know if it's true or not but 2 different people talking about it makes me wonder. It does sound familiar. If I saw it, I'd probably remember it. :lol: I know a few of those early tags on the DVD's I had forgotten about but once I saw them, I remembered them.


You have more credibility because you are a long time member and a daily poster and you were around 14 years old when the episode aired, not 7:lol:

TVFactFan
06-15-2012, 04:37 PM
I used to watch and record shows like Three's Company and The Jeffersons every week-- on audio tape, mind you! Sometimes whole, sometimes just bits. Same with the Three Stooges. Weird kid, I know.


It's a shame you still don't have that tape so I can see a copy of it:lol:

cloggedmind
06-15-2012, 04:39 PM
It's a shame you still don't have that tape so I can see a copy of it:lol:

You can't see anything on audio tape. :lol:

TVFactFan
06-15-2012, 05:22 PM
You can't see anything on audio tape. :lol:


Oh I got that confused with videotape

MRPITT
06-15-2012, 06:54 PM
There is a copy of this episode in its original form down at the UCLA Film & Television Archives. I will try to take a look at it in the near future.

TVFactFan
06-15-2012, 07:10 PM
There is a copy of this episode in its original form down at the UCLA Film & Television Archives. I will try to take a look at it in the near future.



Why is there a copy of this particular episode at the UCLA Film and Television Archives?

MRPITT
06-15-2012, 07:18 PM
There are lots of other episodes as well. There doesnt have to be a special reason, they try to preserve as much as they can and this just happens to be one they have.

Pavan
06-15-2012, 07:27 PM
MRPITT, please do check. Also, if they have Mighty Mouth, check if there is a brief scene missing on that, as mentioned on the HTF thread linked here.

TVFactFan
06-15-2012, 07:41 PM
MRPITT, please do check. Also, if they have Mighty Mouth, check if there is a brief scene missing on that, as mentioned on the HTF thread linked here.


I have to check that HTF thread because I didn't notice anything missing in that episode


Just watched it last night by the way-lol

MRPITT
06-15-2012, 07:44 PM
It looks like they dont have Mighty Mouth these are the ones they have

http://cinema.library.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?Search_Arg=three%27s+company&SL=None&Search_Code=FTIT&PID=D-OF9oA4p7MJ-dXgzUickcyQA&SEQ=20120615163037&CNT=50&HIST=1

It's just my opinion but I dont think anything is missing from Mighty Mouth

TVFactFan
06-15-2012, 07:47 PM
It looks like they dont have Mighty Mouth these are the ones they have

http://cinema.library.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?Search_Arg=three%27s+company&SL=None&Search_Code=FTIT&PID=D-OF9oA4p7MJ-dXgzUickcyQA&SEQ=20120615163037&CNT=50&HIST=1

It's just my opinion but I dont think anything is missing from Mighty Mouth



The only reason I found something wrong with Ralph's Rival is because it was no tag scene. I don't remember that being the case with Mighty Mouth

TVFactFan
06-15-2012, 07:56 PM
Kinda. This is one show I obsessed over all those years ago, and I was around for original airings and the first runs in syndication on ABC, at 11 and 11:30 in the mornings. When, and if a clip turns up, you'll see Chrissy insist that Bruno apologize to Jack for knocking him in the gut. The handshake is the knuckle crusher. Bruno offers his hand to Furley, who refuses, doing his karate hands bit. I saw these shows so many times years ago, omissions like that just stand out.


Just want to apologize to you and say that your description of the TAG scene is consistent with the description on the Home Theather Forum about Jack being hurt again by Bruno.

Thanks for your contribution and the speculation of whether or not it was a tag scene for Ralph's Rival is over

Pavan
06-15-2012, 09:42 PM
Not over until MRPITT checks. Need video proof and he has that.

TVFactFan
06-15-2012, 10:40 PM
Not over until MRPITT checks. Need video proof and he has that.


Two people who don't know each other posted the same tag scene on different message boards


IT'S Confirmed

MRPITT
06-16-2012, 12:58 AM
Two people who don't know each other posted the same tag scene on different message boards


IT'S Confirmed


There are hundreds (none of whom knew each other) who have claimed to have seen Elvis alive but I am not yet ready to say its confirmed.

lol, but that scene sounds awfully familiar.

*Pleasant Tomorrow*
06-16-2012, 03:52 AM
I don't understand why it would have been omitted from the DVD's?

cloggedmind
06-16-2012, 09:41 AM
I don't understand why it would have been omitted from the DVD's?

For 2-inch quad video tapes to be edited, you have to actually cut and splice the tape. On occasion, some trims might get spliced to the end of the reel, as in the case of one or two Monty Python episodes, which were recently (within the last 10 years) discovered to contain extra material at the end of the reel. Maybe the tag scene was, simply, not where it was supposed to be on that particular master tape and got overlooked or missed? Things like that happen.

Also, there may be more than one master tape, possibly mislabeled and edited, and the wrong one may have been used for the transfer.

Or, the scene could have been omitted from the transfer process as, simply, an oversight. The proper transfer of quad videotape requires plenty of attention, much tweaking and, at best, you might get 10-15 minutes of sparkling quality video at a time. Then the recording has to stop and everything gets re calibrated, reloaded and started over again. Considering the process involved, it's amazing we have these shows on dvd looking as good as they do and as complete as they are!

Skywalker
06-16-2012, 01:49 PM
You're welcome Justin. :) I don't know if it's true or not but 2 different people talking about it makes me wonder. It does sound familiar. If I saw it, I'd probably remember it. :lol: I know a few of those early tags on the DVD's I had forgotten about but once I saw them, I remembered them.

Yeah, 2 people talking about it definitely confirms it for me. I doubt even 1 person, let alone 2, would make up a story about a 30 second tag scene that hasn't been seen in at least 25 years. :lol:

Skywalker
06-16-2012, 01:53 PM
MRPITT, please do check. Also, if they have Mighty Mouth, check if there is a brief scene missing on that, as mentioned on the HTF thread linked here.

Does Deja View show Three's Company uncut? I got the complete series of The Ropers off someone who recorded them from that channel and the episodes were about 24 minutes long and had tag scenes.

TVFactFan
06-16-2012, 02:59 PM
Does Deja View show Three's Company uncut? I got the complete series of The Ropers off someone who recorded them from that channel and the episodes were about 24 minutes long and had tag scenes.


They should since they aired the Ropers Uncut. I enjoyed those Uncut ropers episodes so much so I know for a fact if TC ever aired on that channel it was uncut

TVFactFan
06-16-2012, 03:02 PM
I don't understand why it would have been omitted from the DVD's?


I been playing the TAG in my head with my eyes closed based on what the posters said what was in the TAG scene:lol:

Pavan
06-16-2012, 04:18 PM
Does Deja View show Three's Company uncut? I got the complete series of The Ropers off someone who recorded them from that channel and the episodes were about 24 minutes long and had tag scenes.

I think they chopped off the tags from Three's Company and Three's a Crowd, but other than that, DejaView aired everything else.

TVFactFan
06-16-2012, 04:35 PM
I think they chopped off the tags from Three's Company and Three's a Crowd, but other than that, DejaView aired everything else.


Well that sounds ********. They keep the tags for a show that is RARE but cut the Tags for the Parent show which created the rare show:crazy:

BigManMike
06-16-2012, 05:04 PM
How do I get access to materials from UCLA library? It looks like they have other items I would be interested in too but it sounds like they are only available for use in the library. Is there a way to do interlibrary loan with them?

TVFactFan
06-16-2012, 05:07 PM
How do I get access to materials from UCLA library? It looks like they have other items I would be interested in too but it sounds like they are only available for use in the library. Is there a way to do interlibrary loan with them?


Well moving to Los Angeles will be one way to gain access:lol:

MRPITT
10-22-2012, 05:43 PM
Kinda. This is one show I obsessed over all those years ago, and I was around for original airings and the first runs in syndication on ABC, at 11 and 11:30 in the mornings. When, and if a clip turns up, you'll see Chrissy insist that Bruno apologize to Jack for knocking him in the gut. The handshake is the knuckle crusher. Bruno offers his hand to Furley, who refuses, doing his karate hands bit. I saw these shows so many times years ago, omissions like that just stand out.


Sorry

Here is the transcript of the tag scene for 0412 Ralphs Rival

Janet & Chrisssy are sitting at the kitchen table eating bread and peanut butter (Janet is eating Bread and Chrissy is eating and spreading Peanut Butter on a slice of bread)

Chrissy: I dont like Pink I am so tired of Pink

Janet : Why Not?

Jack Walks in with a brown paper bag full of groceries and sets it on the counter.

Janet : Hi Jack! (muffled a bit with a mouth full of Peanut Butter Bread)

Jack : Well? (Annoyed tone)

Janet : Well What?

Jack : Did Furley Get us a Plumber?

Chrissy: Yeah He Did Jack

Jack : A Real Plumber?

Janet : Yes, A Real Licensed Plumber

Jack : Fantasatic! I cant wait to see a Garbage Disposal That Works Properly (As he is walking towards the sink)

Jack Turns on the Garbage Disposal and Water Shoots all over his face (just like it dis earlier in the episode)

Janet : Ah You (as water is sprayin everywhere)

Jack : I thought you said he got us a real plumber?

Chrissy: Well he did but said he would be here tomorrow morning.

Jack Shakes his head and water flys all over the place as Janet and Chrissy runs around to the other side of the table.



They are wearing different clothes then the previous scene so it seems like maybe its the next day.

In total the scene last 36 seconds.

TVFactFan
10-22-2012, 05:50 PM
Sorry

Here is the transcript of the tag scene for 0412 Ralphs Rival

Janet & Chrisssy are sitting at the kitchen table eating bread and peanut butter (Janet is eating Bread and Chrissy is eating and spreading Peanut Butter on a slice of bread)

Chrissy: I dont like Pink I am so tired of Pink

Janet : Why Not?

Jack Walks in with a brown paper bag full of groceries and sets it on the counter.

Janet : Hi Jack! (muffled a bit with a mouth full of Peanut Butter Bread)

Jack : Well? (Annoyed tone)

Janet : Well What?

Jack : Did Furley Get us a Plumber?

Chrissy: Yeah He Did Jack

Jack : A Real Plumber?

Janet : Yes, A Real Licensed Plumber

Jack : Fantasatic! I cant wait to see a Garbage Disposal That Works Properly (As he is walking towards the sink)

Jack Turns on the Garbage Disposal and Water Shoots all over his face (just like it dis earlier in the episode)

Janet : Ah You (as water is sprayin everywhere)

Jack : I thought you said he got us a real plumber?

Chrissy: Well he did but said he would be here tomorrow morning.

Jack Shakes his head and water flys all over the place as Janet and Chrissy runs around to the other side of the table.



They are wearing different clothes then the previous scene so it seems like maybe its the next day.

In total the scene last 36 seconds.



This doesn't sound right to me because it's not connected to the episode. Why would there be a scene about a garbage disposal when they just finished leaving Furley's with Elmo?

MRPITT
10-22-2012, 05:57 PM
This doesn't sound right to me because it's not connected to the episode. Why would there be a scene about a garbage disposal when they just finished leaving Furley's with Elmo?


Not connected? Watch again

TVFactFan
10-22-2012, 05:59 PM
Not connected? Watch again


You are right, I apologized on another thread. Thanks for confirming the episode was edited

MRPITT
10-22-2012, 06:01 PM
You are right, I apologized on another thread. Thanks for confirming the episode was edited

Oh my bad. I feel honored to have seen it.

TVFactFan
10-22-2012, 06:05 PM
Oh my bad. I feel honored to have seen it.


Someone on here stated he remembered that Elmo was in the Tag scene shaking Jack's hand so that's why i thought the transcript was in accurate

cloggedmind
10-23-2012, 03:29 AM
Someone on here stated he remembered that Elmo was in the Tag scene shaking Jack's hand so that's why i thought the transcript was in accurate

Nope. The person who said that was 150% WRONG! :wave: Not the first time I've ever been proven wrong, but at least someone got to see the missing material.

Now that the mystery is solved, I just want the complete episode, but I guess that will never happen.

TVFactFan
10-23-2012, 10:33 AM
Nope. The person who said that was 150% WRONG! :wave: Not the first time I've ever been proven wrong, but at least someone got to see the missing material.

Now that the mystery is solved, I just want the complete episode, but I guess that will never happen.


It was actually 2 people, one person on here mentioned Elmo in the Tag scene and another person on the Home Theater Board.

BigManMike
10-23-2012, 03:50 PM
Well I did see they had re-released them in smaller plastic cases, like Season 1 was. But so far, I have only been able to find 3 and 5 in those cases, but I would assume they have redone all of them. Maybe on the new edition of Season 4 they fixed that error if enough people complained to them about it in the past.

cloggedmind
10-23-2012, 04:48 PM
Well I did see they had re-released them in smaller plastic cases, like Season 1 was. But so far, I have only been able to find 3 and 5 in those cases, but I would assume they have redone all of them. Maybe on the new edition of Season 4 they fixed that error if enough people complained to them about it in the past.
Wonder if there's any fans on this site with the plastic case release that could check?

Skywalker
10-23-2012, 04:57 PM
Don't waste your money. They're not going to fix it.

TVFactFan
10-23-2012, 07:03 PM
Well I did see they had re-released them in smaller plastic cases, like Season 1 was. But so far, I have only been able to find 3 and 5 in those cases, but I would assume they have redone all of them. Maybe on the new edition of Season 4 they fixed that error if enough people complained to them about it in the past.


I doubt it

TVFactFan
10-23-2012, 07:05 PM
Don't waste your money. They're not going to fix it.


Especially since it's only 36 seconds