View Full Version : Five reasons why this show is so much better than Mary Tyler Moore


TVFactFan
06-10-2012, 03:20 PM
1. valerie harper was the lead

2. The Rhoda Cast all together

3. Cranky character who is actually funny.....Ida

4. Fun episode topics about dating and everyday life

5. Unpredictable laugh out loud moments



Loving this show so much and it's really because it's in the category of my other favorite shows

Jeffersons
Three's Company


Season 3 is coming up soon!!!!

Brian Damage
06-10-2012, 03:25 PM
1. valerie harper was the lead

2. The Rhoda Cast all together

3. Cranky character who is actually funny.....Ida

4. Fun episode topics about dating and everyday life

5. Unpredictable laugh out loud moments



Loving this show so much and it's really because it's in the category of my other favorite shows

Jeffersons
Three's Company


Season 3 is coming up soon!!!!


I respectfully disagree on almost all points. But then again The Jeffersons just doesn't hold up for me and Three's Company is burnt out for me as well.

TVFactFan
06-10-2012, 03:31 PM
I respectfully disagree on almost all points. But then again The Jeffersons just doesn't hold up for me and Three's Company is burnt out for me as well.


Maybe I will feel differently in July when I start watching MTM at 8pm. But based on season 1 it was not as good as Rhoda. Me-TV will be airing season 2 in July

Brian Damage
06-10-2012, 03:38 PM
Maybe I will feel differently in July when I start watching MTM at 8pm. But based on season 1 it was not as good as Rhoda. Me-TV will be airing season 2 in July


As I have said before, season 1 of MTM is probably the weakest of all of them. Mary Tyler Moore is a superior show overall.

Mr. Television
06-10-2012, 03:43 PM
Yea I like Rhoda but The Mary Tyler Moore Show was a better show overall. I like how you put as #2 about the Rhoda cast. I agree which is why I don't understand what the producers were doing later on. Maybe they couldn't have prevented Nancy Walker leaving for her own show but splitting Rhoda and Joe up and trying to remake the show as a Mary Tyler Moore clone didn't work.

TVFactFan
06-10-2012, 03:56 PM
Yea I like Rhoda but The Mary Tyler Moore Show was a better show overall. I like how you put as #2 about the Rhoda cast. I agree which is why I don't understand what the producers were doing later on. Maybe they couldn't have prevented Nancy Walker leaving for her own show but splitting Rhoda and Joe up and trying to remake the show as a Mary Tyler Moore clone didn't work.


I'm about to see now why the show bombed without David Groh and Nancy Walker.

OH Nuts!
06-10-2012, 04:08 PM
Rhoda was a nice show but, IMHO, it pales in comparison to TMTMS. Nobody can top Mary as a lead character, not even Rhoda.

TVFactFan
06-10-2012, 04:28 PM
Rhoda was a nice show but, IMHO, it pales in comparison to TMTMS. Nobody can top Mary as a lead character, not even Rhoda.


Even Mary was funnier on Rhoda because of the cast members-lol Carlton brought the funny out of Mary

Brian Damage
06-10-2012, 05:38 PM
Even Mary was funnier on Rhoda because of the cast members-lol Carlton brought the funny out of Mary


Mary didn't need Carlton to be funny though.

OH Nuts!
06-10-2012, 05:41 PM
Mary didn't need Carlton to be funny though.

Yup. Mary could do it all on her own. She was awesome.

Mr. Television
06-10-2012, 05:48 PM
Yup. Mary could do it all on her own. She was awesome.
She could turn the world on just with her smile. lol

TVFactFan
06-10-2012, 06:10 PM
I will have to sample season 2 of MTM. Rhoda seemed to be the funnier one when they were together and maintained her humor when she got her own show

Adamantium
06-10-2012, 06:29 PM
I prefer "Rhoda" to "The Mary Tyler Moore Show."

TVFactFan
06-10-2012, 06:55 PM
I prefer "Rhoda" to "The Mary Tyler Moore Show."


finishing off season 2 and working my way to season 3. I'm still waiting for the POT HOLE during the series run. I guess it will be season 3

Brian Damage
06-10-2012, 09:01 PM
I prefer "Rhoda" to "The Mary Tyler Moore Show."

Why? I am just curious

Adamantium
06-10-2012, 10:09 PM
Why? I am just curious

Obviously, The Mary Tyler Moore Show is a classic series and Rhoda is just it's spin-off but maybe I have a thing for underdog shows. I like both shows, I just feel more connected to Rhoda.

As I think of it, I don't really have some simple straight answer about why I like one over the other. I know that I love the Brenda character and her relationship with Rhoda. I liked watching a married Rhoda and then when Rhoda and Joe were divorced, we went through something with her that we didn't go through with Mary Richards. I really cared about these characters - not that I didn't with the Mary characters, it just went a little deeper here.

I'm also a fan of Carlton the Doorman. It's funny to think that he would go on to voice Garfield and Peter Venkman in he 80s.

TVFactFan
06-10-2012, 10:12 PM
Obviously, The Mary Tyler Moore Show is a classic series and Rhoda is just it's spin-off but maybe I have a thing for underdog shows. I like both shows, I just feel more connected to Rhoda.

As I think of it, I don't really have some simple straight answer about why I like one over the other. I know that I love the Brenda character and her relationship with Rhoda. I liked watching a married Rhoda and then when Rhoda and Joe were divorced, we went through something with her that we didn't go through with Mary Richards. I really cared about these characters - not that I didn't with the Mary characters, it just went a little deeper here.

I'm also a fan of Carlton the Doorman. It's funny to think that he would go on to voice Garfield and Peter Venkman in he 80s.


CARLTON IS THE SH^T!!!!!:lol:

Adamantium
06-10-2012, 10:19 PM
CARLTON IS THE SH^T!!!!!:lol:

Yeah, he's hilarious. It's funny you never see him and yet I have this image of what I think he looks like (it's nothing like what the voice actor actually looked like) and the image is so clear, sometimes I forget I made up it up, lol.

Adamantium
06-10-2012, 10:25 PM
Sol, in 1980, they made an animated pilot about Carlton, called "Carlton Your Doorman." It was never picked up but in the episode, Carlton is revealed to be a relatively young man with shoulder length blonde hair and a mustache.

Here's a link to the voice cast.
http://tv.yahoo.com/carlton-your-doorman/show/5095/castcrew

TVFactFan
06-10-2012, 10:28 PM
Yeah, he's hilarious. It's funny you never see him and yet I have this image of what I think he looks like (it's nothing like what the voice actor actually looked like) and the image is so clear, sometimes I forget I made up it up, lol.


Yes, his interaction with Mary was the best so far-LOL

scotsguy
06-12-2012, 07:24 AM
I love "Rhoda" but the first three seasons particularly,it lost direction in seasons 4 and 5 and the scripts were pretty weak in season5.

"The Mary Tyler Moore Show" script wise went from strength to strength,I totally agree season1 of TMTM is the weakest.

Rhoda,by having her split with Joe,got kinna heavy and the character of Rhoda was weakened,that storyline on season4 of Rhoda having to spend a night out by herself was kinna depressing,was suprised it was chosen as the best episode of season 4,on the 90s vhs "Best Of Rhoda".

TVFactFan
06-12-2012, 11:34 AM
I love "Rhoda" but the first three seasons particularly,it lost direction in seasons 4 and 5 and the scripts were pretty weak in season5.

"The Mary Tyler Moore Show" script wise went from strength to strength,I totally agree season1 of TMTM is the weakest.

Rhoda,by having her split with Joe,got kinna heavy and the character of Rhoda was weakened,that storyline on season4 of Rhoda having to spend a night out by herself was kinna depressing,was suprised it was chosen as the best episode of season 4,on the 90s vhs "Best Of Rhoda".


What was the name of that season 4 ep? And that does seem depressing because I would never HANG with myself in public:lol: When I;m alone in public it's because I'm shopping for clothes, food, or DVD's. I would never be alone in a diner eating at a table in public.

scotsguy
06-12-2012, 03:17 PM
Hi,its called "One Is A Number" on the vhs "Very Best Of Rhoda" too.

Brieannas21
06-12-2012, 11:14 PM
Maybe I will feel differently in July when I start watching MTM at 8pm. But based on season 1 it was not as good as Rhoda. Me-TV will be airing season 2 in July

Don't tell me that you've never watched MTM???

TVFactFan
06-12-2012, 11:21 PM
Don't tell me that you've never watched MTM???


Never had the opportunity, when TV land aired it I didn't have the channel. And since 2000, this is the first time I had the chance to watch it

Brieannas21
06-13-2012, 12:35 AM
Never had the opportunity, when TV land aired it I didn't have the channel. And since 2000, this is the first time I had the chance to watch it

You don't get FamilyNet or Me-TV? Also MTM aired on Nick@Nite

TVFactFan
06-13-2012, 12:39 AM
You don't get FamilyNet or Me-TV? Also MTM aired on Nick@Nite


I didn't watch N@N when MTM was on because that was in the mid 90's?


I do have Me-TV. I had it since April

Brieannas21
06-13-2012, 12:50 AM
I didn't watch N@N when MTM was on because that was in the mid 90's?


I do have Me-TV. I had it since April

MTM comes on MeTV.

TVFactFan
06-13-2012, 01:18 AM
MTM comes on MeTV.


I know I haven't had a chance to watch it because it comes on at 8pm. A better time would be from 7pm to 8pm or 12am to 2am.

8pm to 12am I'm usually eating dinner, or chatting on the phone or doing whatever

Brieannas21
06-13-2012, 10:33 PM
I know I haven't had a chance to watch it because it comes on at 8pm. A better time would be from 7pm to 8pm or 12am to 2am.

8pm to 12am I'm usually eating dinner, or chatting on the phone or doing whatever


Aww, Well to bad that you don't get FamilyNet because it comes on right around that time.

TVFactFan
06-13-2012, 10:53 PM
Aww, Well to bad that you don't get FamilyNet because it comes on right around that time.


Comcast has added enough new channels since 2011 so I have no complaints

JSP
10-26-2014, 06:30 PM
Rhoda was a nice show but, IMHO, it pales in comparison to TMTMS. Nobody can top Mary as a lead character, not even Rhoda.
To me Mary wasn't a strong lead. She was routinely overshadowed by Lou, Ted, Rhoda, Phyllis, and Sue Ann.

JSP
10-26-2014, 06:36 PM
Rhoda is better than Mary Tyler Moore if you ask me because it was apolitical and wasn't trying to make any social commentary like MTM based on my observations.

It wasn't trying to change the world, it was just an apolitical and entertaining show. Rhoda was pure feel-good TV.