:confused: Ok, I remember either a Brady Bunch episode or scene that is no longer aired, maybe it has been cut or banned. Cindy & Bobby were on their way out and were walking through the kitchen in bathrobes when Alice asked where they were going; they replied that they were going to a friend's house whos father was a Dr. and told them it was healthy for them to sunbathe in the nude. Alice ordered them to open their robes and then she made them go upstairs to put on clothes. I am not a sicko, I am a true Brady fan and have seen every episode ten times over and this one has not been on in years. Does anyone remember this so that I know I am not going crazy?!

Greetings,

Yes, that scene is cut from "Goodbye Alice Hello" (Where she takes the waitress job) It was removed from all American syndicated versions of Brady Bunch in the mid 80's and also from Nick at Night versions. (Someone at the "Brady World" site posted this info to me) They were from Australia I believe, and in Australia that scene is still intact.

Another scene that I am trying to place the episode identity on is either in "A Camping We Will Go" or one of the "Grand Canyon" Epiosdes where the girls are in the sleeping bag and Alice can't get out and Cindy says, "Alice, but that's the sleeping bag that the zipper always sticks on." It might be from the Camping Episode where she thinks there is a snake in the sleeping bag, but you'd never know from the Nick at Night cut up crap that's on now.

Nick at Night has restored some footage however that syndicates still leave out. Bobby getting stuck in the stockade in "Un Underground Movie", the "Impractical Joker" scene of Mike & Greg in the garage teaching Myron to run the maze. (The scene that Reed hated, and he was smashed during rehersals!) Other footage in "Sorry Right Number" includes Peter helping his friend Jerry on the phone with the "new Math"...I can list others

A scene I have never seen is in "Slumber Party" Before the girls play "Truth or Dare, they play a game called "HA!" where they giggle & laugh at each other. Nick at Nite omits the line where Marcia talks to Mr. Randolph about the drawing and she says, "But I doodled George Washington, I didn't doodle Mrs. Dentin!" The biggest and worst cuts on Nick at Nite is they cut out ALL the scene in Impractical Joker where Myron gets loose in Carol's bedroom and the complete omission of Alice "Skiing" in the backyard in "Father of the Year."

Some people are complaining that...shockingly, even Columbia House was releasing edited tapes of episodes that were supposed to be uncut! They do have about 30 episodes or so of Brady Bunch so maybe if you guys have them, you could post some more missing scenes or footage that hasn't been scene since syndication! The only way that this "missing footage" is gonna be restored is if a network does a special anniversery edition or the series comes out on VHS/DVD. (A premium channel that would show uncut classic sitcomes would be another option) but that would take business away from TV Land (Can't compalin there! LOL!) but I don't know how many people would be willing to pay extra for a channel, when the footage should be there in the first place!

The "nude" scene was definitely in the first "Brady" syndication cycle in the 1970s -- too bad they removed it during the 80s. The skiing scene was also in the 70s syndicated episodes, but removed for the next cycle. I'd be curious to see how many minutes were cut for the first cycle (one is standard) and how many minutes were cut for the second.

The Columbia House "Brady" episodes seem uncut to me, although I've heard that CH mistakenly released edited episodes of "Diff'rent Strokes" and "Good Times".

When they added the cut scenes from "Father of the Year" back in, it was obvious that they couldn't find the original negative of those scenes and had to go to a 16 mm print or something. The restored scenes are very grainy and faded, compared to the rest of the scenes. This happened in one or two other restored CH episodes as well.

The "Ha!" game is included in the CH version of the slumber party episode.

I have the camping episode uncut, and the sleeping bag scene is included.

The syndicated version of "Now a Word from Our Sponsor" eliminated the whole explanation of Myrna vs. Meeeerna (Carol's acting coach friend). So the exchange at the end of the episode between commercial director Skip Farnum and his assistant made no sense. The explanation is in the N@N episode, but I'm sure they pulled something else out to compensate. From what I understand, N@N needs their episodes to be a different length from the syndicated versions, so they had Paramount recut the episodes from scratch. They did the same thing with "Three's Company", where N@N shows scenes that aren't in the broadcast version of the shows (ususally the tag).

Wow! I always thought that was a rumor! THat is soo unBradylike LOL

Yeah, I think there was a thread on this a few months back. Someone was insisting that it never happened, and a couple of us who are old enough to have seen it were insisting that it did. The scene was done very innocently, BTW. Alice says something like "Those aren't your bathing suits, those are your birthday suits!", and she quickly closes the robes. She did NOT know that they weren't wearing suits when she opened the robes -- she was checking to make sure that they were wearing the new bathing suits that Carol had bought them.

I guess things were more innocent 30 years ago.

Remember the episode where Peter has a major crush on Jans' friend Kerry? And he and Greg do that Cyrano act to make her like him. Nick at Nite chopped up that one big time.

This may be a bit off topic, but I've always wondered where that term "New Math" came from? I've heard it on Wonder Years before and I gotta tell you:

Its a curious term that, kinda like the "Reds" of the McCarthy Era in the 50s I think. Communism was such a big thing though back then and paranoia was high.

Time for Three's Company.

The original poster was most impressive.

Welcome to the board.

And Brady Grid is Righteous.

I believe that back in the 1960s, the way math was taught in the public schools was fundamentally changed. I'm not clear on the differences between the old and new methods, but I do know that the new method was referred to as "New Math". I've seen references to "New Math" in some of the old "Peanuts" comic strips, too.

Thanks to all for verifying. It's a shame that N@N cuts out footage; at first, I didn't realize they were doing this and then it occured to me that there were scenes which I were remembering that I never see anymore...I thought I was imagining them!

That skiing scene in Father of the Year, was omitted by Nick at Nite. As long as I can remember it was always seen in syndication at least in the episodes that ran in the late 80's and early 90's.

Another scene that has been forever deleted from syndication and Nick at Nite is in the episode, Will the Real Jan Brady Please Stand Up? After the kids make fun of Jan's wig, they cut to a scene where Mike and Carol are watching a movie and Carol is crying they make some jokes and then embrace on the couch.

In A Fistful of Reasons, there's a scene where Mike and Carol are in the family room with Cindy and they are helping her with the tounge twisters and Carol states that she is from Swamscott, Massachusetts, I don't think Nick at Nite shows that scene and I've never seen it in syndication.

the hawaii episodes pass the taboo has a cut where bobby asks peter what are bikinis peter reply you'll learn boy will you learn is cut.actually that whole scene is gone. also part two is cut where marcia is looking through the viewer. but severial scenes that are not on syndacated cuts are restored.
the best way to get the shows fully uncut is find 35 milimeter collectors
who sell them on bootleg video.
another show that was cut on fox family was the episode home is where the heart was from the partidge family.
its cut really bad. n@n ran this complete where fox family cut it.
they have restored the i love lucy episodes why not restore the brady bunch too?

"Sorry Right Number" in syndication has the scene with Carol telling Mike about the "new carpeting" when he is pacing back and forth in the master bedroom (Cut from Nick at Nite)Nick at Nite also omits the line about Carol helping Martha with her dress

"Fistful of Reasons" in syndication has Alice helping Cindy with her tounge-twister book ("I'm really busy now honey, I have to go get ready for shupper.") (Cut from Nick at Nite)

"Fistful of Reasons" on Nick at Nite restores a scene where Mike comes home and Carol tells him about Peter's fight with Buddy (Cut from syndication)

"The Babysitters" on all versions cuts out the line where Mike or Carol tells Marcia about a gas leak from the stove (not sure of exact dialoge here)and asks her if she or Greg know what to do, and she says, "But our stove's electric"

"Greg Get's Grounded" has a scene on Nick at Nite with one of Peter and Bobby's frogs covered by a baseball cap. Alice is hanging clothes and she sees the cap moving and it spooks her! (I never remembered this from syndication cause it was cut long ago) I always thought Alice wasn't even IN this episode! (The ending on Nick at Nite is bizzare) it runs the pre-tag credits after the frogs jump on the pizza, and you miss Greg's final lines before the tag. "I don't think we'll be eating this tonight, and he was in 34th place too!"

"Juliet is the Sun" on Nick at Nite has a scene where Marcia is arguing with Jan and Cindy about closet space in their bedroom, but it omits the scene where Mike comes home when Marcia and Harold Axelrod are rehersing their lines for the first time and he says, "Romeo wears glasses?"

"What Goes Up?" omits a scene with Greg on stilts talking to Bobby, encouraging them to try them out. (There is even a picture of this scene in the Growing up Brady Book)I don't think this scene is included in either Nick at Nite or syndicated versions!

"Tattletale" on Nick at Nite restores a scene where Cindy rats Greg out in front of Carol for ripping his clothes while playing basketball (Cut from Syndication)

"Her Sister's Shadow" on Nick at Nite omits the funniest line that was always in syndication. When Jan is practicing her pom-pom routine on the patio, Peter and Bobby mock her in the background and Carol suggests they help her, Alice says, "Oh you boys would make lovely pom-pom girls!" Peter says, "I'm not gonna be any pom-pom girl." and Bobby answers back, "I'm not even gonna be a pom-pom boy!"

Some dialogue is also cut from Nick at Nite about Bobby's encounter with the aliens in "Out of this World" when they talk about their size (not sure of the exact wording)

"Amatur Night" omits in syndication the part where Alfred (The platter salesmen) calls Jan to tell her that the platter is ready, Jan knows her parents are in the room and makes it sound like she is talking to a date. Syndicate always left in the part about Carol telling Jan ("Your freind Alfie called about you breaking your date with him.") but unless you saw the Nick at Nite episode or have the uncut version, her conversation makes no sense.

"Room at the Top" restores footage on Nick at Nite with Greg telling Peter and Bobby that he is moving into the attic. (The scene where they are outside carrying boxes) this is cut from syndication. Also cut from all versions is a scene where he decides to let Marcia have the attic and tells Peter and Bobby, "Ok you guys have to move my stuff back into our room." Peter says, "Our Room?" and Bobby says, "He must of banged his head on the rafter!"

"Subject Was Noses" includes added footage on Nick at Nite where they all paint the bedroom. (A lot is cut out in syndication) omitted is Cindy and Bobby's tic-tac-toe game and Mike says, "Didn't I tell you kids no games? Besides that's paint for the window trim."

"Today I am a Freshman" restores the additional footage of Peter and Bobby working on the volcano and Alices lines about being covered in mud. A running gag used in this epiosde is the line, "You get any of that on the patio, Alice will kill you." This has been cut from syndication. She says the line herself after sending the boys to clean up for dinner but syndication does not show it

"Our Son the Man" has a scene cut from all versions that I remember as a kid. That's the one where Greg is allowed to move into the den and he comes outside with Mike's desk chair and he tells Alice that he's moving into the den and "this is cool chair, I need something to sit on." She says, Greg if your father catches you with that chair you won't be doing any sitting." Also, the long ago, deleated from all versions, "Sleeping bag" scene with Alice getting stuck in the bag and Cindy saying "Alice, that's the sleeping bag the zipper always sticks on is from THIS episode! (Thank You TV GUY!!!) Greg gets her unstuck because "It took a man to do it"

"Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore" includes the visit from the mailman Mr. Stokey when the telescope is delivered on Nick at Night, but this is not in syndication

"Lights Out" on Nick at Night has restored footage of Cindy in Mike and Carol's bed and telling them about the "dissapearing lady" We learn a little more about her fear of dark places. Syndication does not show this scene

"Cincinnati Kids" on Nick at Nite restores several scenes of the family going through the park which is no longer in syndication

"The Hawaii Episodes" on Nick at Nite restore much of the first part episode where you see more of the background shots. Added scenes of the kids on the beach have also been restored as well as Greg telling Professor Whithead that "your beans are burning." Syndicates took out a lot of these scenes.

"54-40 & Fight" and "Katchoo" use the same scene with Tiger after having his bath gets stamps stuck on him! I know that this is in Nick versions, I don't think syndication shows it. Syndication does not show additional dialog of Mike explaining Jan's allergy to the boys for the first time. (Peter being allergic to arithmetic is cut out)

"Bobby's Hero" has restored footage on Nick at Night with Bobby chasing Cindy in the backyard pretending to be Jessie James. Shamefully, they take out the line of when the family is taking about hero's when eating pizza. Greg says, he likes Wilt Chamberlin, and Bobby's full line is, "Yea some chance I have of growing up to be 7 foot 2...and Black! (Nick at Night, takes out "and Black" which is left in syndication) (I must comment about this Politically Correct move IMO. Nick at Nite has really become the "Disney Network!")

So, with few exceptions, your talking about maybe a matter of seconds to one minute of cut dialoge per scene just to fill more commercial time! Absurd!

So many classic scenes, gone! What a shame! Hopefully, Columbia House will release some more volumes so we can see uncut episodes. Currently the 10 volumes available have a total of 40 uncut episodes on them. Columbia House thankfully hasn't botched this series like they did with Good Times and Diff'rent Strokes. With those two series, there are a couple volumes with edited episodes.

Then of course there are the four volumes of Paramount tapes that have an additional 3 episodes that are uncut that Columbia House doesn't offer.

So we have only 43 uncut episodes that we can see.

"The Dropout" on Nick at Nite restores a scene of Greg talking to Peter and Bobby in the garage about how he is gonna be a major leager ball player, but omits a line in syndication where he asked Mike, "What's the biggest bonus a ball player ever got?" and Mike's response about how much the Angels paid a guy. Nick at Nite also restores footage about where his History teacher calls home and informs Mike and Carol that he didn't turn in his assignment. Syndication chops off additional dialog after Mike says, "I don't get that, he's always done real well." and Carol says, "Not this time."

"The Possible Dream" (Marcia's Diary Episode) omits the funny line about some of the books from the Friend & Need Society going to Elmo's Drive-in...("In Connection with Elmo's Bookstore.") This is cut from all versions. Nick at Nite/TV Land also omits Alice's line when she is telling Marcia about how she kept a diary and "recorded every romance she ever had in it, of course that was the shortest chapter in the book."

ISTR a scene in "The Subject Was Noses" ("Oh my NOSE!!!!") where Peter gave advice to Marcia, something along the lines of "Use your hands to catch the ball, not your head!" after her unfortunate encounter with the pigskin. Such was not present in the Nicked at Nite edition, but I remember it from syndication in the early 1990s.

"The Drummer Boy" on Nick at Nite/TV Land has restored footage with Bobby singing to Carol when the other kids say he can't carry a tune, and other footage of the girls in their bedroom practicing for the glee club. This is cut in syndication. This version cuts out some of the "football" sequences that are left in syndication

"Will The Real Jan Brady Please Stand Up?" Restores additional footage of Jan talking to the wig saleslady on Nick at Nite/TV Land (cut in syndication)

We are seeing many scenes that are so poorly edited that they now start in the middle of lines and chop off ends of lines.....For shame!

Nick @ Nite shows to many commercials. They ruined their network by showing to many commercials & editing out lines
from their shows.

"Law and Disorder" has some restored footage of Bobby issuing citations to some of the kids at school. (The one kid who swallows his gum, is cut out in syndication.) A scene where he rats on Alice for improperly using her blender is included in TV Land/Nick at Nite but is cut from syndication. TV Land/Nick however, omit Carol telling Bobby that Marcia couldn't set the table because she had to read a book for a test the next day

Nick at Nite/TV Land cuts out all footage in "Peter & The Wolf" where Alice makes the kids Mexican breakfast food, which is included in syndication. Some added footage of Greg preparing Peter for his "older woman date" has been restored for Nick at Nite/TV Land (This is one of my favorite "older season" episodes!)

"Power of the Press" has restored Nick/TV Land footage of Marcia and Jan rehersing with the puppets of their teachers for Jambaree Night. Peter's line about Mr. Price being the toughest teacher he ever had is cut out in this version, but left in syndication. Minor line edits on all versions, Nick/TV Land cuts out Mr. Prices's quote when Peter asks about his exam..."Your analitical deductions wern't so good on your examination." Peter says, "Sounds like I didn't do so good." Mr. Price says, "You didn't do so well either." (Left in Syndication)

Also cut is Carol asking Peter about his finals, and was his science final and Mr. Price as tough as they say. Peter says he's sure he didn't get an A. Carol says, "Well I'll settle for an A-." His reply, "so would I" (Three little words) is cut out in all versions.

what about the scene 'in will the real jan brady please stand up" where jan puts a handbag on her head and says this ones groovy,or in"snow white and the 7 bradys the whole subplot about which brady will play doepy ,both of these have long been edited out. also,for you non- believers i remember the HA scene and the nude scene very well,but the sleeping back scene i dont.

That's right TV Land/Nick does restore a lot of the subplot scenes regarding which character will be "Dopey" in "Snow White & The Seven Brady's" (cut in syndication) and the TV Land/Nick versions restore a very funny line of Alice practicing her "wicked queen" role

(Holding the mirror and stirring a pot of soup) Alice says, "Mirror Mirror that I see, is there anyone prettier than me?" she looks at her script and forgets where she is holding the mirror." "Mirror, Mirror in my.....(she looks down at the pot)......soup?!"

This was cut from syndication long ago.

Originally posted by blue uniform
what about the scene 'in will the real jan brady please stand up" where jan puts a handbag on her head and says this ones groovy

The broadcast syndication version used to really chop this scene up, but in N@N's version, we at least get to see Jan trying on the "Midnight Temptress" wig. I have this one on tape from Columbia House, and after Jan attempts to try on the handbag, Marcia Wallace's character grabs it and walks away, saying "Helen...how many times do I have to tell you not to mix up the merchandise? A little girl almost walked out of here with this on her head. It's very embarrassing..."

viacom owns nick and tv land plus the brady bunch so why they do not go back to the uncut masters i don't know.
if someone can find paramounts e-mail or columbia house e-mail let's flood their accounts with brady requests to come out on dvd and video uncut every episode.

The Brady Grid Reveals Revelation Knowledge For All Nations, Tongues, and Kindreds Again!

This has been a most impressive list of cuts/restorations. All People That Read This Will Be Blessed.

And Slick Nick had best get on the ball with those Uncut Episodes. Shoot All TV Networks had best get on the ball. For Logic is not a part of TV Networks...

But Making Money Is.

Amen.

There is hope however. For the Brady Grid is Alive for All Nations, Tongues, and Kindreds as mentioned. And the only way I think we'll ever get to see uncut episodes is to find a rich millionaire that Loves Sitcoms and is willing to show them uncut. Digress:

I'm believing that in Eternity when we're in Heaven we'll get to see TV Shows in their entirety. This is Bible. For consider these verses of scripture (random):

Every Eye Shall See Him!

In the Beginning God Created the Heaven and The Earth.

He will give you the desires of your heart; yea and even the Hidden Riches.

Etc.

Undigress:

The point being that in this Earth realm, the World System (TV Networks) have decided that this scam of Networks cutting/editing/"restoring footage" helps them make more $ through commercials. And Logic is No Part (for the things of this World that is System are nonsence).

Amen.

For have you noticed that Everytime a scene is Restored, another scene is taken out?

But and however, if the Brady Grid will come alive and call for Uncut Episodes lest Slick Nick, etc lose money, then the World Will Be Saved from Bad Television that is TV that is Cathode Ray Tube (allowing for that Digital, etc) viewing.
I say it DEFINITELY should be UNCUT FOR DVDS, VHS, ETC PERIOD! And certainly the shows should be uncut as well. No more of this Malarkey!

Amen.

Brady Grid:

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And the fact that 3 is a Root of 9

And the fact that I'm now at 300 Posts is Very:

Righteous.

Brady Living!

Originally posted by Robert Tilton
The Brady Grid Reveals Revelation Knowledge For All Nations, Tongues, and Kindreds Again!

This has been a most impressive list of cuts/restorations. All People That Read This Will Be Blessed.

And Slick Nick had best get on the ball with those Uncut Episodes. Shoot All TV Networks had best get on the ball. For Logic is not a part of TV Networks...

But Making Money Is.

Amen.

There is hope however. For the Brady Grid is Alive for All Nations, Tongues, and Kindreds as mentioned. And the only way I think we'll ever get to see uncut episodes is to find a rich millionaire that Loves Sitcoms and is willing to show them uncut. Digress:

I'm believing that in Eternity when we're in Heaven we'll get to see TV Shows in their entirety. This is Bible. For consider these verses of scripture (random):

Every Eye Shall See Him!

In the Beginning God Created the Heaven and The Earth.

He will give you the desires of your heart; yea and even the Hidden Riches.

Etc.

Undigress:

The point being that in this Earth realm, the World System (TV Networks) have decided that this scam of Networks cutting/editing/"restoring footage" helps them make more $ through commercials. And Logic is No Part (for the things of this World that is System are nonsence).

Amen.

For have you noticed that Everytime a scene is Restored, another scene is taken out?

But and however, if the Brady Grid will come alive and call for Uncut Episodes lest Slick Nick, etc lose money, then the World Will Be Saved from Bad Television that is TV that is Cathode Ray Tube (allowing for that Digital, etc) viewing.
I say it DEFINITELY should be UNCUT FOR DVDS, VHS, ETC PERIOD! And certainly the shows should be uncut as well. No more of this Malarkey!

Amen.

Brady Grid:

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And the fact that 3 is a Root of 9

And the fact that I'm now at 300 Posts is Very:

Righteous.

Brady Living!
What was THAT all about! LOL :confused: Im sorry, but you confuse me.

Originally posted by tcbubblegrl

What was THAT all about! LOL :confused: Im sorry, but you confuse me.

Who isn't confused? :crazy: :lol:

In the Hawaii episode, they cut out the scene when Peter has the tarantula on him, and the subsequent scene between Mike and Carol when she thinks he bought her a coral pin, and it's a tarantula.

In the Hawaii episode, they cut out the scene when Peter has the tarantula on him, and the subsequent scene between Mike and Carol when she thinks he bought her a coral pin, and it's a tarantula.

Really!? I know that Nick at Nite showed that scene where Carol looks into the bag and discovers the tarantula, did you see this (or rather not see this) on TV Land.

I saw the "Pass the Tabu" part 2 episode today, and the Spider Scene is complete (at least on TV Land) But in "Cereno Da Brady" Some of the funny "pick up lines" of Peter's words to Kari are edited out. on TV Land/Nick at Night but left in syndication (i.e "Take what I have to offer, the rainbows, the sunlight".) also cut, is Greg telling Peter the plot while playing basketball, about Marcia being the "other woman" on TV Land/Nick. (It goes right to the scene with Greg greating Kari at the door.) A scene is restored with Peter arguing with Greg after they get home from Kari's house on TVLand/Nick versions. Also TV Land includes the scene with Alice telling Greg that Kari brought over homemade fudge for him. Greg says he has to "do something about that girl." and Cindy asks him, "If you don't like her anymore, can I have the fudge?" (This is all edited out in syndication.)

It's interesting because today they showed Part 3 "Tiki Caves" of the Hawaii episodes and of course there are scenes chopped out as always. (Although TV Land shows more of the Hawaii episodes than syndication does) But, what I noticed is that there wern't any scene "fade outs" (Where the screen goes black when something is cut.) The technology today allows "sitcom butchers" to sometimes remove parts of scenes without a screen "fade to black." We aren't fooled! They are still chopping and dicing like always!

Originally posted by boechsner


Really!? I know that Nick at Nite showed that scene where Carol looks into the bag and discovers the tarantula, did you see this (or rather not see this) on TV Land.
I saw the scene when Greg throws the pillow at Bobby and knocks the sculpture off the wall, then it cuts to the next morning when they're all going to the surfing contest. That's where I thought the tarantula scene was. Did it come on before that?

The tarantula scene occurs in the episode after the one where wall decoration falls. The whole "It's the coral pin...it's the jade bracelet...then it's the coral pin!" conversation cracks me up, for some reason.

And shouldn't the Bradys have had Professor Whitehead arrested for kidnapping? I mean, he wasn't the most stable guy in the world. What if he had pulled that again with some other kids? Pretty irresponsible of Carol and Mike, if you ask me.

I just noticed another deleted scene from the episode "Love and the Older Man" (a.k.a. Mrs. Marcia Dentist). In one of the scenes, Marcia is fantasizing about her future life married to Dr. Vogel, the dentist. But they cut out the scene where she imagines Bobby (in knickers) and Cindy (with old-fashioned curls) as her kids, calling her "Mummy". No big loss, but worth a mention.

And yet another. In today's "Greg Gets Grounded", they cut out part of the scene where Greg is on a date at the drive-in with Rachel and Bobby's jumping frogs. Originally, the last thing we see is one of the frogs jumping on Rachel's head, then she and Greg start laughing, and the checkerboard Brady squares fill in. Instead, we only got to see up to the point where a frog jumped in the most disgusting-looking pizza I've ever seen, and then the squares filled in.

"Kitty Karry All is Missing" restores added footage of the kids looking for Bobby's missing Kazoo and Cindy's doll on Nick at Nite/TV land. Also restored is Carol's line about how "She lost her favorite doll and cried for a week." and how "Marcia lost her shoe and and a week later we found it in the refrigorater." and Carol saying "Your a very smart man Bobby," after he says to her, "I guess girls love dolls more than boys love Kazoo's" (All these lines are cut in syndication)

"To Move or Not to Move" has some restored footage of Greg talking to Peter and Bobby about moving to the new house on Nick at Nite/TV Land. This is cut in syndication.

In Law and Disorder:

Nick/TV Land cuts the scene where Cindy Henderson, Florence's daughter, throws the crumpled piece of paper on the ground. (This was in syndication)

Restores the scene where Carol finds Bobby reading the saftey monitor rules under his covers.

what can we do to force the networks to show the episodes uncut?
i still think that paramount should release the entire series on dvd unedited.
another thing that's been cut out for years is the brady bunch in color before the show starts.

address for paramount
homevideo@pde.paramount.com
let them know what we think.

Originally posted by tulsa1960
another thing that's been cut out for years is the brady bunch in color before the show starts.

What exactly is this, tulsa1960? When the show starts (specifically the dark screen interrupted with a white horizontal line moving right, then becoming a picture of Florence Henderson, aka Carol Brady) this is all in color.:quest: :quest: :quest:

Yes the episodes were always in color. That little musical interlude with the family on the staircase and the "In Color" message was included during the first season during it's original run and during the first syndication cycle. (I am not sure if the original beginning was gone after the first season or not, but I remember the first picture of the "staircase" and the words "In Color" when I watched the syndicated cycles back in 1975.)

"How To Succeed in Business" (Peter's Bycycle Job) is really botched up in small areas on Nick/TV Land versions. Scenes restored are some shots of Peter in the park feeding the pidgions, and the girls helping Alice make Peter's "Promotion" cake. (Cut from syndication) But, TV Land/Nick cut out some dialoge when before Mr. Martinelli fires Peter and says he's not mechanically inclined (Peter saying...."I'll try harder" is cut) also cut is the added dialog of Peter suggesting to Mike and Carol they buy bikes from him. (Left in syndication) A recent cut that used to be included on Nick versions/syndication is when Marcia and Cindy come into the store and Cindy says, "I need a new horn for my bike." She honks the horn and Martinelli says, "Why don't you let me help you with the horns...we got loud horns, soft horns. (etc) This dialog has been cut out.

Originally posted by Jack1000
Yes the episodes were always in color. That little musical interlude with the family on the staircase and the "In Color" message was included during the first season during it's original run and during the first syndication cycle. (I am not sure if the original beginning was gone after the first season or not, but I remember the first picture of the "staircase" and the words "In Color" when I watched the syndicated cycles back in 1975.)

During the original ABC airings, the "In Color" still was used until the third season. The photo was changed in the middle of the first season (after Carol lost her bubble-do hairstyle/wig). The accompanying music was changed at the beginning of the second season. The Columbia House videos restore all of this -- it's almost worth getting them just to see it. One of these days, I'll digitize the "In Color" opening and post it.

If no one's mentioned this, the scene when they're overlooking the Grand Canyon has been shortened on TV Land/Nick at Nite.

More Cut Scenes:

In "Getting Greg's Goat" some added footage is restored on Nick/TV Land when Greg is with Raquel in the bedroom. This is cut in syndication. Also cut on Nick/TV Land is the scene where Greg gets the breakfast food from downstairs and Carol says,

"You planning to eat all of that or are you going to open your own restraunt?"

The dialoge of Mike telling Greg, "I want to see you now." Greg says, "Just give me a couple of minutes Dad." Mike says, "Your couple of minutes were up a couple of minutes ago." (This is cut on Nick/TV Land but is left in syndication)

Also added is additional scenes on Nick/TV Land with Peter/Bobby listening to Greg's conversation with Raquel through the bathroom vent for the first time. Bobby goes to the linon closet to get fresh towels and hears the conversation. (This is cut in syndication)
In "Marcia Gets Creamed" small added footage has been restored on Nick/TV Land of Marcia talking to Jeff, her boyfriend, which is trimmed down in syndication and Peter looking for a job. Restored footage includes some scenes of Mike and Alice trying to stick to their new diets and weighing themselves in the kitchen while Carol looks on. (Cut in syndication)

"Quarterback Sneak" has restored footage on Nick/TV Land with Peter talking to Marcia in the girls' room and arguing with her about putting up the posters for the Westdale-Fairview game. There is also some added footage of the kids playing football in the yard, which is cut in syndication.

"Try Try Again" (Jan's feels she's no good at anything) restores some footage on Nick/TV Land with Mike planning to cook the gourmet dinner, which is cut in syndication

"The Driver's Seat" restores quite a bit of footage on Nick/TV Land versions cut out in syndication. Jan going around the house practicing for her debate has been restored. She is in the girl's room and Bobby and Cindy are playing checkers. Peter works on a model airplane and asks Jan to use the bathroom so he can wash glue off his hands. There is also added footage of Greg and Marcia arguing about who is the better driver when they are talking in the kitchen. (All of this is cut in syndication)

In "Welcome Aboard" (Oliver Moves in....UUUUGGGHHH!) TV Land includes the scene of Oliver messing up Jan's painting, which is not in syndication. The part with Greg building that big sandwich and Oliver squirting him with the ketchup bottle has been cut out, but is left in syndication

"The Hustler" (a.k.a The Pool Table) on TV Land/Nick versions restores footage of Peter & Greg playing a game of pool before Bobby proclaims how good he is Bobby says, "I'm great at pool, I used to play at Steve's house all the time" and then he makes a shot. This is all cut in syndication. A scene cut on TV Land is where Bobby is playing pool and says, "Oh these last two shots are easy." Another cut scene on TV Land is where Greg complains to Mike and Carol in their bedroom about Bobby being outside practicing pool. Mike says, "At this hour"? Mike says, "I'll get his attention with the other end of a pool stick." Another cut line from TV Land is where Mr. Sinclair says to Mike when Mr. Matthews is playing pool with Bobby, "The boss hates to lose, and he's not as good as he thinks he is." Mike says, "Don't worry, he could beat me using the end of an umbrella as a pool cue...open!" This is still in syndication. Also cut is at least one scene where Mike calls Carol about Mr. Matthews inviting the other couples for dinner. This used to be shown in syndication. There's dialoge cut on TV Land when Mike says to Carol on the phone, "Are you planning to serve soup?" She says, "yes" and Mike says, "You better plan on adding a little more water." Some footage on TV Land is restored with Mike and Carol in the family room talking about the pool table (cut in syndication) and Carol has a funny line, "Well, it stays in the carport, or I stay at my mothers' and Mike says, "Hummm that's a tempting offer!"

"A Clubhouse is Not a Home" restores footage on TV Land/Nick with the girls picketing their signs around the boys' clubhouse, which is cut in syndication.
Also included is Greg going into the kitchen and looking at what Alice is cooking on the stove and Alice says, "Hey no peeking in the pots before dinner." Greg says, "I wasn't peeking in the pots. Do you think the girls are right about the clubhouse or the boys?" Alice says, "Id rather have you peek in the pots." Syndication always cut out Alice's first line of Greg peeking in the pots before dinner.

"Is There a Doctor in the House?" has restored TV Land/Nick footage with the kids all playing Monopoly in the girls room, which is not in syndication. A couple of minor lines are added but the biggest syndicated cut restored is when Bobby and Cindy come in and Greg says, "Wern't you two supposed to be in the other room coloring?" And Cindy says, "Yea, but now Bobby wants to color my dots!" This is no longer in syndication. There is added footage no longer in syndication of Alice taking Peter's tempurature in the boys room. Then she goes in the girls' room to talk to Jan. Minor line cuts not in TV Land are when Carol and Mike are deciding to use which doctor. Carol suggests tossing a coin and Mike says, "you got one with both sides the same?" and when Mike suggests using their own doctors, Mike says, "How bout that, I'm a genious!" Carol says, "If your such a genious, why didn't you think of that yesterday." Mike says, I'm what you'd call a slow genious." This is cut out on TV Land

OK, Jack, how do remember all of these? Or do you have a stack of uncut BB episodes available? I have the 40 released by Columbia House, but you're talking about a lot of episodes that haven't been released on home video, to my knowledge.

No I don't have access to uncut "Brady Bunch" episodes at all! (Damn!) I've just been an authority on the show for years because I've watched it all the time. For about 10 years, it was on Syndication here after it's original 1969-1974 run. (We didn't even have cable till 1985!) Then I started watching again when our local stations dumped it and it went to TBS. So it's like "Cool! Brady Bunch is on TBS now! Then when I started watching TBS I noticed things that were edited out of the original cycle. Then, years later when Nick at Nite got the rights, I just thought. "Oh they are just gonna use the butchered TBS cycled versions." I found out that it was a "mixed blessing" because Nick restored some cut footage but took out stuff that had been on TBS! That bugged me and a lot of fans over at the "BradyWorld" site www.bradyworld.com So I just thought that since I have a photographic memory for Brady Bunch Episodes, and Leave it to Beaver (In addition to the fact that I have no life! haha) episodes that I would start a list of episode edit comparisons....(You'll have to do without me as of June 1st for Brady edits, cause I'll be sleeping when Brady Bunch comes on!) If I think of more stuff I'll add to the list! And if you or anybody with the uncut tapes you DO have...feel free to add stuff to the list! We know, that there is at least 2-3 minutes gone from each episode and there is TONS of stuff that I can't remember! (So, us Brady fans, should consider this a work in progress.)

Thanks for the inquiry TV Guy!

Jack

Well, I'm impressed. I'm old enough to remember some of the original nighttime run, as well as the ABC daytime run and the syndication run in the 1970s and 80s. I can remember some of the deleted stuff, but not nearly as much as you.

"The Big Sprain" on Nick at Nite/TV Land versions includes some additional dialoge of Mike talking to the kids for the first time about household chores for the first time after Alice sprains her ankle. (Cut in Syndication) also included is the scene with Mike talking to Sam in the butcher shop the second time and he says, "Sam I think you've got more than eight steaks there." (Cut in Syndication)

A chopped up scene on on Nick/TV Land include when Greg is playing basketball and Marcia tells him that "We are doing a terrible job, we are not trying together." This is included, but Greg's line of "Even a dazzeling basketball star needs to feel he's part of a team." is not (remains in syndication)

Another omitted scene on Nick/TV Land is the first morning when the kids are doing the housework alone and Mike is about to go into the kitchen for breakfast. The boys stop him and Greg says, "Dad! I gotta warn you, stay out of the kitchen it's a disaster area!" Peter says, "Yea the girls are taking perfectly good food and making garbage out of it." Bobby says, "Yea poison garbage!" Mike says, "I'll be the guinne pig." He gives them extra money for lunch and says, "You guys better hurry up or you'll be late for school." (in syndication)

"Call Me Irresponsible" has restored TV Land/Nick footage when Greg loses his job on the first day. Alice comes in with coffee and she tells Mike about how badly she feels about Greg and how when she first started working for him she got the "starch mixed up on one of his shirts" Mike says, "yea I think one of them broke." She says, "You gave me a second chance Mr. Brady." This is cut in syndication. Syndication also cuts a scene with Marcia talking to Greg about losing his job, but then she says, "I was talking to Randy Peterson (Greg's girlfriend.) He is put off and says, "Oh great, I suppose you told her all about what happened." Marcia says, "Boy! That's the last time I'll try to be nice to a creep like you....even if he is my brother." (This is cut in syndication.) TV Land/Nick however does NOT show a related scene when Peter and Bobby come in with money and tell Greg about how they've been saving up for "rides in the new car that Greg's gonna buy with his job salery" Bobby says, "Yea it's great that your working for Dad after school." Peter says, "Hey! It's after school right now! What are you doing here?" Greg says, "I thought you both knew, I'm not gonna be with Dad anymore...I was fired." (Cut from TV/Nick, remains in syndication)

"The Winner" restores a scene on TV Land with Greg and Marcia complaining to Mike and Carol about Bobby "blowing his top" because he can't win at anything. (This is cut in syndication.) Did you also notice that for some strange reason, this is the only episode on all versions, to my knowledge that has several small cuts before the beginning credits are even complete? This was Robert Reed's first directed Brady Bunch Episode and he did a good job.

Neato!

I wish a certain publishing company would edit out certain portions of the misinformative Growing Up Brady book by Barry Williams and Chris Kreski. Which portions, you ask? All of them!

Barry Williams' book lists two quotes I don't recall seeing on Nick at Nite:

Episode #13 "Vote For Brady": Marcia says, "Greg Brady ... this means war!"

Episode #110 "Out Of This World": Alice says, "It's out-of-this-world, too!" in regards to her pot roast.

Also of note, I had this book with me while watching Episode #59 "And Now A Word From Our Sponsor", examining Robert Reed's memo to the powers that be (pages 232-236). I don't recall at all any of the scenes he pointed out. :eek:

"Double Parked" (a.k.a "Save Woodland Park") has a scene restored on TV Land/Nick versions where Mike is brushing his teeth in the bathroom and Carol is talking to him about her being part of the "Save the Park" committee. (Cut from syndication)

Cut from Nick at Nite is a small scene after Mike tells Mr. Phillips about designing the courthouse in Woodland Park. Syndicate has more dialoge of Carol's reaction to this after Mike tells Carol about it. TV Land/Nick cuts in with......."Mike your kidding?....your a park wrecker!"

The "Clark Tyson' episode was also cut in syndication. Jan accused Marcia of trying to steal Clark and then Marcia simply said, "Jan, if boys don't find you attractive, don't blame it on me."
But on NAN there's an added scene where Mike and Carol come in and ask what's wrong with Jan and Marcia says something like it's just sibling rivalry.

"My Brother's Keeper" on TV Land/Nick versions restores footage of Bobby taking a bath after he has the accident with the green paint which is cut in syndication.

Originally posted by Jack1000
"My Brother's Keeper" on TV Land/Nick versions restores footage of Bobby taking a bath after he has the accident with the green paint which is cut in syndication.

Just as well. I always found it somewhat disturbing that Carol was watching her 12-year-old stepson take a bath. What's next, Bobby and Cindy skinny-dipping at the neighbors' pool? :)

LOL!!! I agree TV Guy! You know out of all the stuff that TV Land/Nick do cut, it's funny that THIS scene is left intact!!! Now come on, if they leave this in, they can certainly restore the cut "Skinny Dipping" scene from "Goodbye Alice Hello!"

Jack

"The Wheeler Dealer" restores a scene on TV Land/Nick versions after Mike tells Greg about the business practices of "Caviot Emptor" (Latin for "Let the buyer beware") Greg is in his room with Peter and Bobby and he tells them what "Caviot Emptor" is. Bobby tries to say his full name in Latin and Greg says, "That's Pig Latin" He then talkes about how he needs to get rid of his car and says, "Guess I'll just have to find someone who's dumber than I am." Peter replies, "That isn't gonna be easy."

Another restored line is when the whole family is outside looking at Greg's car and Mike says, "You know, it kind of reminds me of an old car my dad used to have. In fact I think it is my dad's old car."

All these scenes have been cut in syndication

Jack

The episode where Peter spies on the other kids with his tape recorder.

After he thinks there's going to be a surprise party he hints around about things he needs (ie "gifts"). At one point he says something like, "I sure could use some new records for my record player."

This was not in the show last week.

In "Oh, my nose!", the episode where Marsha breaks her date with Charlie to go out with Doug, there is a scene where the family is painting the parents' bedroom. Lots of funny gags in this scene (Gregg paints across Alice's face when she opens the door, Jan hands Peter the wet end of paint brush when he looks away), but they left out one: when someone stepped into a bucket of paint, and you heard a funky electric guitar riff punctuating the moment.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jack1000


"Subject Was Noses" includes added footage on Nick at Nite where they all paint the bedroom. (A lot is cut out in syndication) omitted is Cindy and Bobby's tic-tac-toe game and Mike says, "Didn't I tell you kids no games? Besides that's paint for the window trim."

I saw this episode the other nite, during the Brady Marathon (thursday Oct 18) and the tic tac toe game was in the episode...Did they retore it for this episode or did they show an alternate version

I will have to look for that scene. I wonder what deleted scenes will not be shown in tonight's episodes?

Hmmm. That is strange for Carol to be watching Bobby taking a bath. What is the purpose story wise for Carol to be in the bathroom at that point?:o

i don't remember that episode. but that's strange that they would take it off like that. if it was on back then in the 70's and was good enough for all of us to watch, then surely it can't be any worse than what children are watching these days on MTV or VH-1. geez!

I don't remember Carol watching Bobby take a bath. I can imagine the dialogue...

"Mom. I think you better leave me in privacy now."

"Why, Bobby?"

"Um...something suddenly came up."

Does anyone remember this scene and if so can you describe it in as much detail as possible? It seems so un Brady like. I can't even remember ever seeing a bathtub.

The "bathtub" scene has been restored on TV Land. It is from "My Brother's Keeper" (Where Bobby saves Peter from the fallen ladder) Bobby gets all covered with the green paint that Greg is using to paint the window shutters. He has to take a phone call and comes back and says, "Which one of you clowns knocked over my paint." Remember Peter promises to be Bobby's slave, but he soon tires of "brotherly devotion" when Bobby takes too much advantage of the situation.

Cut and there is a quick scene (deleated in syndication) of Bobby covered in suds taking a bath, Carol comes in and Bobby tells her about saving Peter from the ladder, and she just says, "Well, ok you've been in there long enough--dinner's ready." (or something like that)

The next scene is where Syndicate picks up, Bobby comes to the dining room table and says "Sorry I took so long, I took such a long bath I shrielved up into a prune." Nothing else is made of it. I think that this is the episode (and I don't know this...damn!) where Alice comes in and serves "Hungarian Goulash" (What is that anyway?) That's all I know.

Jack

TV Land omits a line from the Grand Canyon episode. The Bradys are looking at the Canyon and Mike is explaining that the Colorado River dug the whole Canyon. Tv Land omits Peter saying "no wonder you don't want us to leave the water faucet running" which was shown on TBS. Peter says something like that. That always used to crack me up, it still does when I think about it. It's just funny the way that Chris says it. I think that Nick At Nite omits that line too.

The scene where Bobby is in the tube and Carol is talking to him is shown on Nick At Nite. I don't know if TV Land shows it or not. This scene was never shown on TBS.

In "Getting Davy Jones", I believe the syndicate markets edited out the part where the boys try to help Marcia write a letter. Fortunately, it appears in the videotape version.

"To Davy Jones. Dear Sir, you have just won a 10 million dollar sweepstakes. For information, call Marcia Brady at..."

Greg: "A 10 million dollar sweepstakes?!?"

Peter: "20 million?"

"Greg's Triangle" has more footage on the TV Land versions. There are added scenes of Greg talking to Jennifer on the beach and eating hot dogs. Additionally, you see Peter and Bobby making fun of Greg when he is coming his hair for a date with Jennifer and Peter and Bobby make funny monkey noises!

There is also more footage of Marcia practicing for the cheerleading routine.

All of this is cut in syndication

Jack

Last night TVLand reran Law and Disorder, where Bobby becomes the school safety monitor, and I saw a scene I never remember seeing before. Alice has something in the blender when Bobby walks in and tells her that he's putting her on his report for not separating the cans and bottles from the other trash. Alice is so shocked that she turns on the blender w/o the cap on it and also knocks it over. However, TVLand deleted the line where Bobby puts Jan on his report for not setting the table when she was supposed to. TV Land also cut out the scene where Carol explains to Bobby why Jan didn't set the table, but it did leave in Jan's complaint "I had to study for a test" in among the adlibbed complaints of the kids about Bobby.

Another scene that's been chopped by TV Land and syndication: In My Sister, Benedict Arnold, Cindy and Bobby are begging for chances to be dunked in The Brady Booth by Peter, who's throwing the balls. Cindy gets her chance first, and then Bobby goes up on the machine and Peter's about to throw balls to knock Bobby in the water. Then Carol calls Peter in to do his homework "Now!", so Pete is about to leave when Bobby's still begging to be dunked. Pete then, I think but I'm not sure, pushes on the target to make Bobby fall in the water. Then Pete tells Bobby, "You sure look dumb as a mermaid". I've seen this scene stopping at the point where Carol tells Peter to do his homework, and I think TV Land cuts it even more to where even Carol's left out of the scene, but I'm not sure.
I have also seen the previously-described scenes in Love and the Older Man, where Mrs. Marcia Dentist talks to her two kids (Bobby and Cindy dressed and talking hysterically - "Ew, Mummy") and their French Maid (Alice - "si vous plait"). I know for certain that this scene was left in for syndication in the 80s because I remember that I was living in a house where my family lived long after TBB left the air when I asked my dad what Alice's French phrase meant.
I also remember Bobby in the bathtub soaking off the green paint in a syndicated rerun, but I have not seen this scene on TV Land as far as I remember.

Originally posted by jehobden
Another scene that's been chopped by TV Land and syndication: In My Sister, Benedict Arnold, Cindy and Bobby are begging for chances to be dunked in The Brady Booth by Peter, who's throwing the balls. Cindy gets her chance first, and then Bobby goes up on the machine and Peter's about to throw balls to knock Bobby in the water. Then Carol calls Peter in to do his homework "Now!", so Pete is about to leave when Bobby's still begging to be dunked. Pete then, I think but I'm not sure, pushes on the target to make Bobby fall in the water. Then Pete tells Bobby, "You sure look dumb as a mermaid". I've seen this scene stopping at the point where Carol tells Peter to do his homework, and I think TV Land cuts it even more to where even Carol's left out of the scene, but I'm not sure.
I have also seen the previously-described scenes in Love and the Older Man, where Mrs. Marcia Dentist talks to her two kids (Bobby and Cindy dressed and talking hysterically - "Ew, Mummy") and their French Maid (Alice - "si vous plait"). I know for certain that this scene was left in for syndication in the 80s because I remember that I was living in a house where my family lived long after TBB left the air, when I asked my dad what Alice's French phrase meant.
I also remember Bobby in the bathtub soaking off the green paint in a syndicated rerun, but I have not seen this scene on TV Land as far as I remember.

Good post!

My memory is hazy on the delated dunking booth scene for "My Sister, Benedict Arnold" I remember Bobby on the dunking platform, Peter throws a ball and misses, Bobby says, "Come on! Hit the target!" Peter says, "I'm trying too!" Carol than opens the patio door and says, "Peter, time to do your homework!" Peter says, "In a minute Mom." Carol says, Not in a minute, Now! Peter says, "Oh, OK" Bobby calls out, "Hey! I wanna get dunked!" Peter says, "You heard what Mom said"

That's as far as I can go with the scene. I am almost positive there is a fade to black here so maybe the scene in question with Peter pushing on the target and Bobby falling in the water and Peter's "Mermaid" line would logically come at this time.

BTW, TV Land does restore the scene of Bobby taking a bath trying to get the paint off of him in "My Brother's Keeper" Nick at Nite and most syndicates took this out a long time ago.

Jack

For anyone of you that has the Columbia House version of "Her Sister's Shadow (or Paramount's tape) could you please tell me the missing dialog after Mrs. Watson acknowledges Jan's admission of the scoring mistake in the essay contest? (In other words, what comes between Mrs. Watson saying, "Her behavior today should be an example to all of us." (then a cut) and then Jan in the middle of a line says...."and I wanted to win at something so bad, I didn't know what to do.")

This is probably my favorite Brady Bunch episode of all time and the scene here is so moving and powerful and the clowns at TV Land/Nick hack it to pieces. So if you know what is missing in this scene please post. Thank you!

Jack

Originally posted by jehobden

I have also seen the previously-described scenes in Love and the Older Man, where Mrs. Marcia Dentist talks to her two kids (Bobby and Cindy dressed and talking hysterically - "Ew, Mummy") and their French Maid (Alice - "si vous plait"). I know for certain that this scene was left in for syndication in the 80s because I remember that I was living in a house where my family lived long after TBB left the air when I asked my dad what Alice's French phrase meant.

I was disappointed that Paramount didn't add it back it when they recut the show for N@N and TV Land. In Boston, it disappeared when our local station got the second syndication cycle in the 80s. Perhaps your local station held onto the first cycle throughout a good part of the 80s. I know other stations had the first cycle a little later than Boston because they didn't double-run the show throughout the 70s (as they did in Boston) and so they didn't have to renew their license until later.

Jack - I have both the Paramount and Columbia House versions of "Her Sister's Shadow", and Mrs. Watson's line "Her behavior should be an example to us all" is the last line of her speech. As soon as she says this line, we see the audience clapping. I've always thought it was strange how the audience started clapping immediately after that line -- how the heck did they know it was the end of Mrs. Watson's speech?

Originally posted by TV Guy

That scene is hysterical, and I was disappointed that Paramount didn't add it back it when they recut the show for N@N and TV Land. In Boston, it disappeared when our local station got the second syndication cycle in the 80s (perhaps your local station held onto the first cycle throughout a good part of the 80s).

Jack - I have both the Paramount and Columbia House versions of "Her Sister's Shadow", and Mrs. Watson's line "Her behavior should be an example to us all" is the last line of her speech. As soon as she says this line, we see the audience clapping. I've always thought it was strange how the audience started clapping immediately after that line -- how the heck did they know it was the end of Mrs. Watson's speech?

Hi TV Guy,

No, I am not disputing Mrs. Watson's line, "Her behavior today should be an example to all of us." That IS the last line of her speech. I am questioning after we see the audience clapping (taken from footage from "Vote For Brady" as we all know...very cheesy!) there is a fade to black and the next thing we hear is Jan with Mike and Carol saying in the middle of a sentence......"and I wanted to win at something so badly, I didn't know what to do." They would never start a scene with "and I wanted to win at something so badly" Something is cut between the audience clapping and the middle of Jan's line, so I guess what I am looking for is what JAN says between the clapping and her saying, "....and I wanted to win at something so badly..." Sorry I wasn't more clear the first time.

Jack

Originally posted by Jack1000

No, I am not disputing Mrs. Watson's line, "Her behavior today should be an example to all of us." That IS the last line of her speech. I am questioning after we see the audience clapping (taken from footage from "Vote For Brady" as we all know...very cheesy!) there is a fade to black and the next thing we hear is Jan with Mike and Carol saying in the middle of a sentence......"and I wanted to win at something so badly, I didn't know what to do." They would never start a scene with "and I wanted to win at something so badly" Something is cut between the audience clapping and the middle of Jan's line, so I guess what I am looking for is what JAN says between the clapping and her saying, "....and I wanted to win at something so badly..." Sorry I wasn't more clear the first time.


Ah, I get it. It does seem like there should be something else there, but I just broke out both my tapes and checked, and they do start that scene with "And I wanted to win at something so badly." I guess the writers figured that we knew what was going on, and didn't need any further explanation. Of course, there's always the possibility that there was more there, and that Paramount didn't (or couldn't) restore it. From the looks of the grainy "lost" scenes in the video release of "Father of the Year", it's obvious that Paramount foolishly did their syndication cuts on the original negatives (at least for one episode and probably more).

Hi TV Guy,

Yea, I can't recall them off the top of my head, but when TV Land aquired the rights to The Brady Bunch they had to re-edit the shows to make them a slightly different length than the syndicated versions. Yes, you can see several instances of "graininess" where scenes have been restored that were cut in syndication. You can also note missing scenes cut from TV Land that were in syndication.

"Bobby's Hero", I watched last night (One of my all-time favorite Brady episodes for the quality of the writing and realism of the topic.) You can see that the footage of Bobby chasing Cindy in the backyard pretending to be Jessie James is grainy. That was cut a long time ago in syndication. I am sure that there are many others.

Jack

Originally posted by TV Guy

I was disappointed that Paramount didn't add it back it when they recut the show for N@N and TV Land. In Boston, it disappeared when our local station got the second syndication cycle in the 80s. Perhaps your local station held onto the first cycle throughout a good part of the 80s. I know other stations had the first cycle a little later than Boston because they didn't double-run the show throughout the 70s (as they did in Boston) and so they didn't have to renew their license until later.


Did you happen to watch BB reruns on WLVI-TV, ch. 56, in Boston? I have fond memories of this station from visiting my grandparents who lived in Saugus and Swampscott. I loved watching tv there since it had so many more stations than the four stations I had where I was in upstate NY and the five stations I had in middle TN later. I remember the early '80s jingle, "Here in Boston, the kids' choice is, Channel 56", followed by the Field Communications seven-note jingle. I remember 56 was good for BB reruns, back-to-back at around 5 or 6 PM and then on the weekend at 11:30 AM.

Speaking of Swampscott, I also remember Carol stating that she grew up there in "A Fistful of Reasons" since my dad was born and raised there and my grandparents lived there the rest of their lives.

Greetings,

I want to extend a special thank you to all of The Brady Bunch fans who worked so hard with me on this thread of scene cuts/comparisions of Nick-At-Nite/TV Land versus local syndicated versions of the Brady Bunch! This is quite a list!

Now....to complete the picture. I understand that there are about 40 or so episodes from Paramount/Columbia House tapes that are uncut. I don't have those tapes, but I thought it would be cool if whoever had them could post some scenes or lines from episodes that are cut out of ALL TV airings. This will give Brady fans at least 40 episodes where we will know exactly what is missing on all current Brady Bunch TV airings. Some have already been included in the list which is a great start! But, if you know of any lines or scenes that are now only on the Columbia House/Paramount tapes we could include that information.

I do think that at some point, at some time, all Brady Bunch episodes will be released uncut to VHS/DVD. It's just a matter of exactly when that will happen!

Thanks to all who worked on this thread!

Jack

I do remember the one where they are at the Grand Canyon and Peter says, "Wow, no wonder you don't like us to leave the water running!" Maybe you can help me remember if this is another one. I might be crazy but for some reason I remember seeing Peter hiding either in the doghouse or simply outback during the voice-changing episode. He is trying to practice singing I think, so he goes outside, and his voice is warbling, and his parents hear him and make him go back inside. Maybe someone can clarify that one.

Originally posted by CrazyNewt
I might be crazy but for some reason I remember seeing Peter hiding either in the doghouse or simply outback during the voice-changing episode. He is trying to practice singing I think, so he goes outside, and his voice is warbling, and his parents hear him and make him go back inside. Maybe someone can clarify that one.

Nope, you're not crazy -- I remember that scene. Peter lies in the doghouse screaming/wailing. When Mike and Carol come outside to see what's wrong, he explains that he's trying to force his voice to change faster.

Originally posted by TV Guy


Nope, you're not crazy -- I remember that scene. Peter lies in the doghouse screaming/wailing. When Mike and Carol come outside to see what's wrong, he explains that he's trying to force his voice to change faster.
I remember another scene in that ep. Peter is sitting on his bed with a towel over his head and a humidifier or something next to him and Greg walks in and gives him honey to help make his voice better. I never see that scene on TVLand.

I remember one scene from the Kings Island episode that I haven't seen since the show aired on ABC... Marcia, Jan and Carol are going down one of those giant slides (the ones that had several dips and you had to sit on a gunny sack to avoid friction burns). They all seemed to have a grand old time, but I remember Carol had to keep lurching forward after each bump to continue down the slide!

Originally posted by Mijada

I remember another scene in that ep. Peter is sitting on his bed with a towel over his head and a humidifier or something next to him and Greg walks in and gives him honey to help make his voice better. I never see that scene on TVLand.

I actually have seen that scene on TVLand or Nick. Greg puts the spoon in and can't see where it's going. Pete says, "That's my ear!". Greg says "Oops! Sorry, Pete.", then gets the next spoonful in Pete's mouth. Unfortunately the honey didn't help much, as everyone who's seen the ep remembers.

Originally posted by OKCRay
I remember one scene from the Kings Island episode that I haven't seen since the show aired on ABC... Marcia, Jan and Carol are going down one of those giant slides (the ones that had several dips and you had to sit on a gunny sack to avoid friction burns). They all seemed to have a grand old time, but I remember Carol had to keep lurching forward after each bump to continue down the slide!

Ray, you're bringing back memories. Although I don't remember seeing this episode during the ABC run, I do remember seeing it in syndication in the 1970s, with the giant slide scene intact. I'm guessing it disappeared beginning with the second syndication cycle in the 80s.

A couple of added lines in TV Land for "Fright Night" with the kids asking Carol/Mike if they can sleep in the attic with regard to the allowence bet, and the kids talking about the bet. Geg is so sure that the girls will lose the bet that they can't sleep all-night in the attic he says....."Poorer but wiser, which is more important?" Syndicate cuts out these scenes.

Jack

Nick At Nite used to show the scene where Alice was getting a skiing lesson in Father Of The Year. But TV Land cut it out.

They also cut a scene out in To Move Or Not To Move. The scene at the beginning where Greg and Marcia are telling Carol that they need a bigger house is edited. Greg says and they (being the girls) use our closets and Marica says well girls have more clothes!! That scene is deleted from TV Land. Nick At Nite used to show it. I wish that scene would come back. I have ALWAYS loved that scene.


Crystal :ducky:

I don't know if this has been mentioned or not, but in "Fright Night" several scenes of Carol working on Mike's sculpture have been cut, including the one where Alice comes in and says something like "that looks really good - whoever it is." Though I think the one at the very beginning was probably cut for syndication because it didn't have any credits over it. And another scene is cut when Jan and Marcia are preparing the ghost and someone says "did you ever see a ghost wearing a mini-sheet?"

I am stumped on a line cut from TV Land! I know that it is cut and I don't know which episode it belongs to: I know that Bobby learns 3 things in "The Big Bet" (See 1-3 below)

1. "Never bet on anything...even if you win you lose."
2. "If I ever have to boss anyone around-I'll never be mean"*
3. "If you are going to a drive-in movie...never take an umbrella!

*Ok....now, #2 is cut from TV Land, but is #2 from the Big Bet or from Law and Disorder? I know that there are 3 OTHER things that Bobby learns in Law and Disorder, so if #2 isn't the thing he learns, what are the other two? All I know from Law and Disorder is....."Never use a whole box of soap in a washing machine!" Can anyone else fill in the gaps*

(As a sidenote,Does anyone have "The Big Bet" uncut? There is a syndicate scene that has been cut by TV Land where Jan and Marcia say, "Come on Greg, your driving us to the library." Greg says, "I'm not driving you to the library!" Jan says, "Yes you are, Bobby said so!" Marcia says, "We'll wait in the car.")

Jack

Originally posted by Jack1000
I am stumped on a line cut from TV Land! I know that it is cut and I don't know which episode it belongs to: I know that Bobby learns 3 things in "The Big Bet" (See 1-3 below)

1. "Never bet on anything...even if you win you lose."
2. "If I ever have to boss anyone around-I'll never be mean"*
3. "If you are going to a drive-in movie...never take an umbrella!

*Ok....now, #2 is cut from TV Land, but is #2 from the Big Bet or from Law and Disorder? I know that there are 3 OTHER things that Bobby learns in Law and Disorder, so if #2 isn't the thing he learns, what are the other two? All I know from Law and Disorder is....."Never use a whole box of soap in a washing machine!" Can anyone else fill in the gaps*


The Brady Bunch had a lot of these what I call "3-Point Lessons", including the funny 5th season ep "Peter and the Wolf". When I was a kid, I always hated when BB had to be serious and teach the kiddies a lesson, but I guess the third point ended the lesson w/ a laugh. I have seen Tom Hill's book TV Land to Go where he defines a Triple, where two of three statements fit together but the third is strangely different. I guess BB executed these triples more often than anyone else.

Originally posted by Jack1000
I am stumped on a line cut from TV Land! I know that it is cut and I don't know which episode it belongs to: I know that Bobby learns 3 things in "The Big Bet" (See 1-3 below)

1. "Never bet on anything...even if you win you lose."
2. "If I ever have to boss anyone around-I'll never be mean"*
3. "If you are going to a drive-in movie...never take an umbrella!

*Ok....now, #2 is cut from TV Land, but is #2 from the Big Bet or from Law and Disorder? I know that there are 3 OTHER things that Bobby learns in Law and Disorder, so if #2 isn't the thing he learns, what are the other two? All I know from Law and Disorder is....."Never use a whole box of soap in a washing machine!" Can anyone else fill in the gaps*



Jack
# 2 is definitly from the Big Bet
In Law and Disorder the 3 things Bobby learns are:
1. "Even if you have authority you have to listen to people."
2. "You have to use good reason and justice."
3. "Never use a whole box of soap in the washing machine."

Do you remember when Jan wanted a boyfriend, she made up George Glass? She called the operator, told her that they were having trouble with their phone, and to call her back to test it at 762-8059.

At the time this episode originally aired, this telephone number was in the Studio City, California area. This is where the real Brady house is located.

I called it many years ago, right after the epsiode aired on local television. I asked for Jan Brady. The person got mad and told me to go to hell. Apparenlty, he didn't understand why he received so many telephone calls.

Now, the telephone number has been edited out.

one of my favorite sences that tv land restored was from the getting davy jones ep it had marcia coming into the boys room all excited about davy and one of them cant remember wich says whats so great about davy jones and the other says yeah all he does is bang on a gituar and yell his head off and then bobby starts to yell im wild about you baby wild about you baby wild wild wild and then peter says careful davy baby dont break your geetar i dont know why thats still so funny to me after all these years but i still laugh every time i see that sence

Wow!
This is a lot of deleted scenes....
hopefully they make it to the DVDs.

(WHEN they come out, not if)
(season sets only!)

In "Click" ("Greg wants to play football') TV Land cuts out some dialogue about the coach telling Greg that his ribs may be broken and that he is going to call his parents to take him to the doctor. Greg, knows how much Carol objects to him playing football in the first place says....."Oh please coach, call my Dad" The coach agrees. TV Land picks up with Greg grimmicing and the coach says, "See...those ribs are pretty painful." Greg says, "Coach that's nothing, it's telling my mother that's going to be painful!"

Jack

My husband says that in Going, Going . . . Steady, there is a scene that was cut by TVLand where Greg and two others (Peter and Jan?) staged a mock wedding of Harvey and Marcia. It ended with "You may kiss the bride." "What? In front of all these people?"

He also said that in Ghost Town USA, when the kids make a stagecoach robbery movie, TVLand cut out Bobby's line "If you shoot me one more time, I'll get mad."

oops I just saw The Teether-Totter Caper. That had a scene where Peter and Greg performed a mock wedding. That must have been what my husband was thinking about.

The hell with Nick at Nite!!!!!!! They have left everything out in all of the shows. but thanks for these info people, it makes me want to buy the dvd version.:wave:

I love all these comments regarding deleted/chopped-up scenes. Funny thing is, this very topic was an integral part of one Brady episode!

Remember when Jesse James was Bobby's hero, and Mike and Carol allowed him to stay up late to watch a movie, in the hopes of Bobby finding out about how Jesse James really was? And how they got the surprise of their lives when the station cropped out all of the violence? Of course this led to one of my all-time favorite Bobby moments: in the movie they were watching, Jesse James supposedly shoots a prospector and kidnaps his daughter, however most of that is edited and all we see is Jesse and a woman riding on horseback (Bobby: "Wasn't it nice of Jesse to give that girl a ride?"). The looks on Mike and Carol's faces were priceless!

Funny how life imitates art, isn't it?

In the final episode (The Hair-Brained Scheme), we usually see Bobby and Oliver visit just one potential customer -- the night watchman who wears a wig. What is almost always cut out is that they also visited two other customers: one being a gentleman with a "NO PEDDLERS OR SOLICITORS" sign that has to explain to Bobby and Oliver what a "peddler" is, and also a woman, who Bobby greets with "Madam, is your hair an unruly mess?" before getting the door slammed in his face.

OKCRay, that was good, from the last episode. I don't even recall any of that, which goes to show how long some of the scenes discussed in this post have been cut. Bobby's my favorite Brady kid,and I would just LOVE to see the "unruly hair" bit! ;)

So far, nobody has mentioned a cut scene that I remember quite vividly... from "Power of the Press," where Marcia and Greg are warning Pete that he'd better hit the books big-time so he doesn't fail Mr. Price's science course. They give Peter studying tips, one of which is to create little rhymes to help memorize info. One such rhyme was, "a primate has the size and shape of a monkey, man, or any old ape." That short scene is always cut -- I bet I haven't seen it in 10 years.

However, I remember it so well, because one day while in 8th grade, I was studying bio and said the rhyme, and my dad happened to be passing by commenting how clever :doh: he thought I was. I started to correct him, but, seeing how impressed he was :lol: (the dope)!! I somehow couldn't break the news to him that I heard the rhyme on "The Brady Bunch." I didn't want to break his precious illusion. (tee hee hee)

Originally posted by OKCRay
In the final episode (The Hair-Brained Scheme), we usually see Bobby and Oliver visit just one potential customer -- the night watchman who wears a wig.

Personally I think they should have cut out Oliver's quote at the end, something like "Mothers never have the time to talk to their children about s*x."

They shouldnt cut out anything.


And whats so wrong with Oliver talking about sex??

Originally posted by barwars88
They shouldnt cut out anything.

Generally speaking, yes.

And whats so wrong with Oliver talking about sex??

I thought it was inappropriate for a wholesome show like The Brady Bunch; he was not yet ten years of age at the time.

I dont think using the word sex would be inappropriate.


I mean.... so what if he werent 10 years old.... I knew what sex was when I was 10.
In fact.... they taught about it in school when I was 10.
10 years old= 4th grade right??

I haven't seen this scene. But I don't see why it's cut out, doesn't seem too bad.

"Sex."

It sounds like a last ditch effort to gain ratings.

definately was...i think it was the stupidest thing they put in that epi...tell me did Oliver absolutely have to say that? i didn't think it was funny

Last ditch effort for ratings??
By saying the word sex??


Im pretty sure that it didnt effect ratings either way.... and that it probably wasnt promoted.

And if it were.... than the Brady Bunch has just become the saddest show in TV history.

The reason why cousin Oliver told Cindy "You know something, your mom sure has a hard time discussing sex" was because both he and Cindy had a hard time distinguishing between the rabbits, and he noticed how Carol tried to avoid further explaining it to them.

Oliver: "Which one's Romeo and which one's Juliet?"

Carol: "Juliet's the fat one, she's going to have the babies"

Cindy: "They're both fat."

Oliver: "Hey, maybe they're BOTH gonna have babies!"

Carol: "Oh, I don't think so, Oliver."

Oliver: "Why not?"

Carol: "Well, Romeos don't have babies."

Carol thought this would be an easy way to duck out of explaining in detail, so after she left, he turned to Cindy and told her the immortal quote.


Hope this explains it for you.

I'm pretty sure we all know about Greg and his "high" scene. But among the many things that have been trimmed out of the Brady Bunch over the years, how about an explicit drug reference? And, believe it or not, it came up in a discussion between Mike and Carol!!!

This is from the pilot/wedding episode. In the very first scene, Mike and Carol are talking to each other on the phone, expressing their nervousness at the upcoming ceremony. (note: the deleted lines of dialogue are in italics):

Carol: "Cindy just thought I had real butterflies in my stomach."

Mike: "You're lucky you've just got butterflies; I've got six flying saucers in mine."

Carol: "Maybe you should take a tranquilizer."

Mike: "I took one."

Carol: "Well, maybe you should take another!"

Mike: "Nothing doing; I just want to be calm for the ceremony."


Who would've known? And notice how the context changes when those lines are deleted! My guess is that those lines were edited out during the age of "Just Say No", and it's unlikely we'll get to hear them again any time soon!!!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by addicted2.2much
[B]
So far, nobody has mentioned a cut scene that I remember quite vividly... from "Power of the Press," where Marcia and Greg are warning Pete that he'd better hit the books big-time so he doesn't fail Mr. Price's science course. They give Peter studying tips, one of which is to create little rhymes to help memorize info. One such rhyme was, "a primate has the size and shape of a monkey, man, or any old ape." That short scene is always cut -- I bet I haven't seen it in 10 years.


Yep, and don't forget... "A vertebrate has a back that's straight!"

and Peter's classic retort: "Next year's going to be so nice, I won't have to worry about Mr. Price!!!"

(to which Greg replied, "I think you'd better hit the book, Pete, and READ IT!!!") LOL

Guys,

Can anyone describe the game of "Ha!" (dialoge edited out) during the Slumber Party Scene before the girls play "Truth or Dare?"

Jack

"MY FAIR OPPONENT" has some restorations on TV Land that were cut in syndicate. You see Marcia preparing Molly in several scenes for Senior Banquet Night. You also see her talking to Carol, Mike, Cindy, and Jan, after her "Makeover" A small cut occurs just after Molly wins with her acceptance speach. The next scene (cut) shows Marcia, Carol, and Mike at the kitchen table either playing a game or drinking hot chocolate (can't remember) and Marcia is crushed. Mike says, "Honey, you did your best in the competition didn't you?" Marcia says, 'Yea" Carol says, "Well, you can't do more than that." Marcia says, "I know, but what kills me is that Molly beat me with a speech I helped her write." I think she says she says she wants to go to bed cuz she is tired. Then the doorbell rings. Marcia says, "I'll get it." (this is where TV LAND picks up the conversation)

There is also a cut where Molly gets egotistical thinking she can win the hostess award. After Molly says, "It's amazing how popular I've become since changing my looks and personality." Marcia says (cut), 'Well, you DID have a little help you know!"

There is a blooper in this episode also! (It may already be on the board.) But, just for the record, it is established that Patty Holbert is the most popular girl in the class. Molly once refers to her as SALLY HOLBERT!

Jack

and Peter's classic retort: "Next year's going to be so nice, I won't have to worry about Mr. Price!!!"

That line is included! But, the "primate lines" and "vertibrate" lines" are cut.

Jack

Originally posted by Jack1000
There is a blooper in this episode also! (It may already be on the board.) But, just for the record, it is established that Patty Holbert is the most popular girl in the class. Molly once refers to her as SALLY HOLBERT!


That's probably why Molly wasn't very popular -- she couldn't even get her classmates' names straight.

Originally posted by Jack1000
Guys,

Can anyone describe the game of "Ha!" (dialoge edited out) during the Slumber Party Scene before the girls play "Truth or Dare?"

Jack

IIRC, the players sat in a circle, similar to "Truth or Dare", and the first person says "Ha." The next person says "Ha, ha." Third person "Ha, ha, ha" and so on, until someone actually cracks up laughing. If you laugh, you're out.

TV Land's version of "The Show Must Go On" has additional footage of Alice talking to Mike and Carol about Sam refusing to take her to Family Frolic Night because he has bowling practice that same night. (She pours coffee and discovers that she has forgotten to put coffee in the perkilator.) This is cut from syndicate versions.

Jack

Cyrano deBrady had a bit of the scene cut out just before Marcia portrayed Debbie that TV Land cut out. It was just a brief discussion where Greg is talking w/ Jan, who's failed in her attempt to push Kerry away from Greg. Greg verifies w/ Jan that Kerry hasn't met Marcia yet, so he gets the idea to have Marcia portray Debbie. Since TV Land cut this part out, any new watchers of the ep have to guess why Marcia's dressed up in a wig and glasses.

I remember that Wilt Chamberlain comment myself, never to be seen again. I was surprised because Bobby used the word Black. LOL. I'm black, so you know I remembered it when I was a kid. LOL. I just couldn't understand why they clipped it. Do you think it had anything to do with the word itself? They could've clipped other parts.

How about the scene from "How to Succeed in Business", where the girls go to the bicycle shop so they can have Peter wait on them, not knowing that Mr. Martinelli has already fired him. They cut out the part where Martinelli gets pissed at Cindy for honking one of the bike horns. He grabs it right out of her hands, from what I remember.

People have always called me crazy when I tell this story, but I'm the biggest Brady Bunch fan ever and I know what I saw. In the episode where Alice's cousin comes to whip the family into shape, they are out in the finely trimmed backyard doing exercises one morning and the person who is supposed to be Greg is totally NOT GREG! It was another actor dressed like Greg and with the same hair style, but the guy was easily 20 years old! It only shows him for a couple of seconds, and he didn't speak any lines. The last two times I saw the episode it had been cut out, so I guess someone finally noticed it. I guess maybe Greg was away from the set that particular day and they just needed a fill in, that's the only conclusion I can reach.

Also, the actress who played Alice's cousin in the episode has GOT to be related to Ann B. Davis in some way (maybe her twin?) but I've never been able to find any info on her. Any help out there?

Originally posted by still_theTHRILL
Also, the actress who played Alice's cousin in the episode has GOT to be related to Ann B. Davis in some way (maybe her twin?) but I've never been able to find any info on her. Any help out there?

still_theTHRILL, that was Ann B. Davis in a dual role! Not only did she play her usual Alice, but also her Cousin Emma!

still_theTHRILL, that was Ann B. Davis in a dual role! Not only did she play her usual Alice, but also her Cousin Emma!

Suuuuuuure. I guess they just used "TV magic" to enable her to appear beside herself on the screen then, right? :rolleyes:

Of course it was Ann B. Davis.

They can do all kinds of camera tricks.

The same way that Steve Urkel played Cousin Myrtle and stood right next to "her".

And when Uncle Jesse played Cousin Stavros and they spoke to one another.

I am not sure about this. I read that she has a twin sister. Plus this was the 1970's and they did not have this technology yet. I might have to disagree here.

Hello! This is the 1970's we're talking about here. That sorta technology was still a couple of decades away.

I remember looking for and not seeing in the credits a name for an actress playing the cousin. That means Ann B. Davis played both rolls.

Besides, when I was a kid, I asked my mom about that particular episode, "How did they do that?", and she said they film each character separately, then play them back next to each other.

They did the same type of thing in the 60's with Gomer Pyle, showing several Gomer characters talking to Sgt. Carter all at once. It's not that big a deal.

It was Ann B. in both roles. As far as the technology goes: Emma and Alice only appeared side-by-side in one of two scenes, so they only had to go to the expense of the special effect for those. In all the other scenes, Emma and Alice did not appear in the same frame, so they were able to create the conversations between the two of them via editing.

BTW, "Bewitched", "I Dream of Jeannie", and "Patty Duke" all used the side-by-side effect when their stars played dual roles in certain episodes, and those shows were made in the 1960s. Check out the original "Parent Trap" from 1961 -- they used the same effect.

Oh yeah, I forgot about Patty Duke.

Thanks for helping me set these kids straight. :D

TV Land is rerunning the Brady ep A Room at the Top tonight. I remember in the past a scene where the Bradys are cleaning out the attic, and Jan asks Carol about a certain large dress, and Carol says "I wore that when I was pregnant with you." I didn't see that scene on TV Land last night, but I know I remember seeing it in the past, since I thought it was funny to hear the word "pregnant" on The Brady Bunch, since it was taboo on I Love Lucy earlier. Of course this is a year before Oliver said "s_x". :)

I still say it's a separate actress, but I'm not gonna be dogmatic about it.

Originally posted by still_theTHRILL
I still say it's a separate actress, but I'm not gonna be dogmatic about it.

No, it's well-known among Brady-philes that Ann B. Davis played a dual role for that episode.

From The Brady Bunch Book, by Andrew Edelstein and Frank Lovece, here's a description of the episode, "Sergeant Emma":

"Ann B. Davis does the Patty Duke trip when she plays her identical-twin cousin in this episode."

And from Growing Up Brady by Barry Williams, who played Greg, the episode description for "Sergeant Emma" says:

"Ann B. Davis plays both roles." (the italics are not mine -- they're from the book)

Barry was there during filming, after all.

Even if Ann B. Davis does have a twin, it doesn't mean she can act. If someone else played the role of Cousin Emma, her name would have been in the credits.

Don't forget that Christopher Knight also had a dual role in Two Petes in a Pod. For him and Ann B. Davis both to have identical twins would be highly unlikely. No effort (except glasses part of the time) was made to make Arthur look any different from Peter. It was clearly Chris in both roles, and Chris was credited at the end of the show. The technology was there then.

Robert Reed and Florence Henderson also played the Mike and Carol's grandparents in another episode.

More good examples to prove it wasn't impossible to do such tricks "way back" in the 70's.

I can't believe you people thought I was serious. :lol:

People here take their "Brady Bunch" trivia very seriously, newbie.

TV Land reran "Kelly's Kids" yesterday, and I noticed that the scene where Ken shows his three boys part of his nightclub act ("One, two, three, and the hat") was missing, though I also saw a couple scenes, including one in the Kellys' bedroom, that I don't remember seeing before. I also noticed a scene in "My Brother's Keeper" last time TV Land reran it where Bobby was in the tub, washing off the green paint, and I know that the scene has been cut in the past. Maybe TV Land reruns eps w/ different scenes cut at different times.

TV Land has different versions than those which were previously seen in broadcast syndication and on WTBS. So there are scenes on TV Land that weren't in the syndicated versions, and vice versa. But I don't believe that TV Land has multiple versions of the same episode. The tub scene was cut out of the TBS version, but it's been there every time I've seen it on TV Land.

I, for one, wouldn't mind if they cut every scene out of "Kelly's Kids", though. Worst episode ever.

What was the point? They weren't doing a spinoff of those characters.

It was so obvious that the neighbor son was Mike Lookinland's brother. He sounded just like him!

Both of my small children thought he was Bobby instead of another character!

See? They can't even fool the kids. :lol:

"Kelly's Kids" was a backdoor pilot for a proposed series. Ole' Sherwood hoped to sell ABC on a series about the Kellys based on this episode. But ABC apparently didn't like the episode any more than we did, and they didn't bite.

Backdoor pilots aren't done as often as they used to be. But they were done all the time in the 70s and 80s. Keep an eye on the end of the "Green Acres" syndication cycle -- there are several backdoor pilots in there; they are episodes in which Oliver and Lisa hardly appear and instead serve to introduce the audience to a whole new setting and set of characters. Same thing with several episodes from the last season of "Charles in Charge".

Hey Guys,

Here are some more Brady Bunch episodes with restored scenes cut in syndication:

BIG LITTLE MAN: Has additional footage of Carol tending to Bobby after Greg saves him from the ladder incident

THE NOT SO ROSE COLORED GLASSES: Has one of my favorite scenes restored, which was cut from syndication! It's the one with the photographer Mr. Gaylord's confusion as he prepares to take the anniversery picture. Syndicate prints always took out the lines about him looking for his color plate for the camera, and him forgetting to put in the film.

Jack

"The Elopement" has more scenes of Bobby practicing his little organ out in the garage on TV Land, which were cut in syndication. The kids and Mike both make some funny cracks about how awful his playing in. (Incidently, turn on the CC on your TV, and it says in one instance that Bobby is trying to play "Yankee Doodle." It sure doesn't sound like "Yankee Doodle!")

TV Land does cut out a funny line when some of the kids are in Sam's butcher shop, trying to convince Sam to take Alice "bowling." Bobby says, "Sam, you just gotta take Alice bowling! I can almost play the whole song (i.e The Wedding March) on my organ!"

Sam askes Bobby, "What Song?"

Greg covers Bobby's mouth and says, "It's called ummm shut my mouth blues."

Jack

In the episode "The Drummer Boy" Nick at Nite/TV Land cuts out the bedroom scene where Carol and Mike discuss whether or not Bobby keeps his drum set. An added scene is where Peter, Jan and Cindy are in the girls' bedroom trying to sing for the glee club only to hear Bobby's drumming drowning it out.

In the episode "The Drummer Boy" Nick at Nite/TV Land cuts out the bedroom scene where Carol and Mike discuss whether or not Bobby keeps his drum set. An added scene is where Peter, Jan and Cindy are in the girls' bedroom trying to sing for the glee club only to hear Bobby's drumming drowning it out.

Good job BravesFan! I remember that from syndication!

Jack

TV Land reran Two Petes in a Pod this morning, and I noticed that TV Land didn't run the scene where Peter bribes Bobby, Cindy, and Oliver w/ popcorn, ice cream, soda pop, and movie tickets to get them out of the house for his date w/ Michelle. I remember that the kids are out on the swingset when Peter bribes them. This episode actually marked Robbie Rist's first appearance as Oliver, since it was filmed before Welcome Aboard, but ABC aired them in the correct order originally. Because they were filmed out of sequence, TV Land, as well as most local stations, show this ep before Welcome Aboard.

"Out of This World" contains the added footage about Greg's lip cut. ("He cut himself shaving.") This is cut out in syndicated versions. According to Barry's book, he had an automobile accident shortly after this episode was rehersed and that is how he cut his lip. (Looking at the pictures of his car banged up, he was very fortunate that he wasn't more seriously hurt.)

Jack

In the episode,"Getting Davy Jones", Marcia and her friends suggest groups and they mention The Beatles and The Carpenters. Didn't anyone know that The Beatles disbanded as a group a year earlier???

Originally posted by TV Guy
"Kelly's Kids" was a backdoor pilot for a proposed series. Ole' Sherwood hoped to sell ABC on a series about the Kellys based on this episode. But ABC apparently didn't like the episode any more than we did, and they didn't bite.

Backdoor pilots aren't done as often as they used to be. But they were done all the time in the 70s and 80s. Keep an eye on the end of the "Green Acres" syndication cycle -- there are several backdoor pilots in there; they are episodes in which Oliver and Lisa hardly appear and instead serve to introduce the audience to a whole new setting and set of characters. Same thing with several episodes from the last season of "Charles in Charge".

Actually, "Kelly's Kids" DID become a series 12 years later in a way, as it was the inspiration for the 1986 CBS sitcom "Together We Stand", which starred Elliott Gould as a former pro-basketball player and Dee Wallace-Stone as his wife. They had two kids of their own and adopted a young black girl and a preteen Asian boy. This series didn't last too long, and it was revived later in the tv season as "It's Not Easy", killing off Gould's character and making Wallace-Stone's character a supermom, working full-time, raising four kids, and going to night school too. I only watched "Together We Stand" once and thought most of the characters, especially their biological son (played by Scott Grimes), pretty obnoxious.

The last episode of Green Acres, which I saw on TV Land's Last Things Last marathon last year, is one of those obvious backdoor pilots. It starred Elaine Joyce as a young career woman who lives w/ her sister and brother-in-law and Richard Deacon as her boss. It was set in a large city (NYC, I think) and had nothing to do w/ the rural setting of Green Acres. Maybe the producer was trying to develop an urban sitcom, since CBS was about to kill all its rural sitcoms that year (1971).

Yeah, "Together We Stand"/"Nothing is Easy" was pretty bad. Sherwood only produced the pilot episode, and was let go when it went to series -- I remember him complaining about it to the press at the time. I wonder if it would have been any better or worse if he had stayed.

Guys,

With regards to "The Big Bet:"

TV Land adds several scenes of Bobby working out preparing for his chinup contest with Greg, which is cut in syndication. TV Land cuts out some dialogue where they are at the drive in and Bobby offers Rachel some of his pizza. Another cut scene by TV Land is where Bobby says, "Your blocking my view again!" Greg yells back, "Bobby, your not even watching the movie!" Bobby says, "Neither are you!" Then his dialogue (which TV Land does show) comes up where he tells Greg, "It's warm in here, put the top down."

I am also pretty sure that there are three things that Bobby says when Mike asked if he has learned something from all this.

1.) "I'll never bet on anything again, even if you win, you lose."

2.) "If I ever have to boss anybody around, I'll never be mean." (cut by TV Land)

3.) "If you are going to a drive-in movie, NEVER take an umbrella!"

Jack

I do remember that scene. Too bad TV has to be sensored like that. Something really kind of innocent gets cut and yet all the "little" swear words I hear in prime time today that would have never been said 20 years ago. Amazing!

Guys,

This thread will really be active when the Season 1 DVD comes out! (and subsequent seasons thereafter) People with the DVD will be able to REALLY see alll those cut scenes that many may have never seen.

Jack

Guys,

We already know about "My Brother's Keeper." TV Land restores the scene of Bobby taking a bubble bath getting the paint off of him. This was cut in syndication. TV Land's cuts include a few lines regarding Bobby's apology to Peter. After Peter says, "Well that's the crummiest apology I ever heard." (His response to Bobby saying, "I'm sorry I saved your life!") the cut lines are:

Bobby: "That wasn't crummy, I was being sincere!"

Peter: " Sincerely crummy!"

TV land picks up where Bobby says, "Creep!" and than throws the pillow, breaking Peter's model airplance.

The scene of Bobby screaming in the closet for Peter to come and let him out is also shortend on TV Land. Syndicated versions during this time, show Peter downstairs in between Bobby's yells, where he makes phone calls to his friends. He laughs and says, 'Yea Earnie, hahaha, I've got all night to shoot the breeze." Than the scene goes to where TV Land picks up with Bobby trying to break the door down and Peter comes and lets him out.

Jack

It'll be great when the DVDs come out for season 4, because then we can see the infamous scene where Alice rips open Bobby's and Cindy's robes, only to find them naked underneath, in "Goodbye Alice, Hello". And I am not kidding about this.

It'll be great when the DVDs come out for season 4, because then we can see the infamous scene where Alice rips open Bobby's and Cindy's robes, only to find them naked underneath, in "Goodbye Alice, Hello". And I am not kidding about this.

Good observation TV Guy!!! Yes, this is absolutely true!!!

Jack

Guys,

"Amateur Night", in addition to restoring the conversation with Jan and Alfred "The Silver Platter Salesmen" on TV Land, does have a small cut. Syndication always showed more of Alice talking to her friend Kay about the soap opera that she was watching.

Jack

One scene that keeps disappearing (appears every so often, but is cut most of the time) is in Part 2 of the Hawaii vacation. Sometime after the surfing contest (and resulting wipeout), Greg is on the beach, trying to hit on a pretty blonde girl named Mandy. He offers to help her with her suntan lotion, but Peter and Bobby come along and spoil the moment for him when they start helping her with the suntan lotion. Mandy then chirps, "Now that's what I call real island hospitality!" as Greg slinks away in disgust.

I've seen that part....kind of a dumb line if you think about it. It should be obvious the boys are only tourists and not native Hawaaiians!

Guys,

This thread will really be active when the Season 1 DVD comes out! (and subsequent seasons thereafter) People with the DVD will be able to REALLY see alll those cut scenes that many may have never seen.

Jack

Since I'm a first season DVD owner now, a couple restored cuts I've noticed so far are an additional scene w/ Carol's parents and others trying to catch Tiger in "The Honeymoon" and a scene from "The Hero" where Bobby says he has to take out the garbage from now on because "a hero" (Peter) can't be expected to do it anymore.

In the 70's Richard Mulligan played on Soap the sitcom. He played 2 Bert Campbells in a 2 parter episode. When there was an alien Bert Campbell sent down.

Bette Davis played Played both Margaret and Edith in Dead Ringer 1964

David O. Selznick's THE PRISONER OF ZENDA (1937) with Ronald Coleman playing both Rudolph Rassendyll and King Rudolf V, I recall a scene in which the "twins" must shake hands (or something similar--this is from memory). They handled that one by actually compositing only the head and shoulders of one "twin" into the previously shot footage of the other twin shaking hands with a stand-in.

French comedy (Le mouton à cinq pattes) starring Fernandel in multi-character role as both an old wine-growing father and each fifth of his five adult identical quintuplet sons, who have gathered for a family reunion. Nominated for an Academy Award in 1955 for Best Writing.

Corsican Brothers 1941

Douglas Fairbanks Jr. plays the conjoined twins, Lucien and Mario Franchi, who are separated as youngsters. Lucien is raised in the Corsican Mountains as a bandit and Mario grows up in Paris in luxury. Based on the Alexander Dumas novel. Dumas also used twins in the plot for his 'The Man in the Iron Mask'.

Dark Mirror 1946

Olivia de Havilland plays twin sisters, Terry and Ruth Collins, in the post-World War II mystery about one twin who is accused of a murder that may have actually been committed by her twin sister. Nominated for Best Screenplay in the 1946 Academy Awards. Olivia de Havilland, the 85-year-old, two-time Academy Award-winning actress, is retired and living a quiet life in France these days.

I, the Jury 1953

Movie based on the Mickey Spillane novel featuring detective Mike Hammer and in creepy supporting roles, Dran and Tani Seitz as twin sisters Esther and Mary Bellamy. Remade in 1982 with Armanda Assante in the Mike Hammer role and the real-life Harris Twins, Leigh and Lynette, as the Bellamy Twins.


The Black Room 1935

Classic horror film star Boris Karloff as the evil owner (Gregor) of an estate who lives in fear of a prophecy that he will be killed by his twin brother (Anton--also played by Karloff). One of Karloff's better film roles.

Here Comes the Waves 1944

World War II Pin-Up Betty Hutton stars as twin sisters, Susie and Rosemary, both of whom are being courted by Bing Crosby. The Academy Award-nominated song "Ac-cent-u-ate the Pos-i-tive" is the best-known song from this musical.

Matting film to make a star appear as twins
by John Cunningham 1998
Ever wondered how they make a scene where the same star plays two different characters, like Hayley Mills as both Sharon and Susan in THE PARENT TRAP (1961) or Bette Davis as both Margaret and Edith in DEAD RINGER (1964)? I did. So I asked John Cunningham and this was his answer:

This is done with a technique known most simply as matting (or matteing). It can be done in-camera (and frequently was done this way during the days of the silents), but most often was done in the lab (and nowadays is done with digital compositing in with computers).

Traditionally, during the days of the "classics" it was done as follows for a scene such as those in THE PARENT TRAP: (I'll simplify here and try to avoid technical jargon) --

The scene would be shot two times with the actor playing each role and the camera (usually) in the exact same position. A stand-in would play the "other" role for the actor who was "doubling." The scene would be laid out so that there would be some part of the background along which a "divide" could be easily made-- such as a straight edge of a wall, or a straight tree, etc. (although the divides didn't necessarily have to be straight, it did make things easier).

The dialogue was carefully timed by the script clerk so that the doubled characters would speak on the proper cues. Sometimes during the shooting of the second "twin" the taped dialog from the first "twin" could be played back on the set to help ensure proper timing of the dialogues and reactions. These reactions can later be helped along by good editing, of course.

In the compositing lab, there would then be two strips of film, each of which would contain one "twin." These would be combined ("composited") onto one a new single strip of film by means of the matte process. The equipment used for this is called an optical printer. Simply put, it is a device containing a projector on one end which projects directly into a camera on the other end. (This is an oversimplification, but I'm trying not to get too technical here.) Thus, a new strip of film can be made from previously shot material.

One of the previously photographed "twin" shots would be loaded into the projector side of the printer along with a "matte" which is simply a tailor made piece of film, part of which is clear and part of which is black. The black part of the matte will cover up (or "matte out") that portion of the scene with the stand-in, (i.e.. keep that portion of the frame from projecting into the camera head of the printer) and the clear part will allow the part of the shot we want to pass through to the new strip of film. This setup would then be run, thus exposing only half of our new strip of film (one "twin").

Then, the new film (still undeveloped) would be rewound, and the other "twin" footage would be added to the other side of the new filmstrip in much the same way. (A reverse matte would be created to matte out the stand-in in the second portion, and let the second "twin" portion of the previously shot footage pass through to the new strip of film).

Thus, our new strip of film will contain both "twins." It is a composite of the two different "sides" of the two previously shot scenes.

It was possible to move the camera during such a shot, but it made the matte process much harder because "traveling mattes" had to be used which would track the divide in the picture as the camera moved. Therefore, usually you will notice that shots showing both "twins" are usually static shots with no camera movement.

What really makes these shots work in the final film is, of course, the editing and sound. The over-the-shoulder shots (which show one "twin's" face with the back of the other "twin" in the foreground) were done normally, using a double for the "twin" whose back is showing. Thus, the complicated compositing process is kept to a minimum.

Needless to say the process also got complicated when one "twin" had to interact with another twin (like, for example, hand them something or shake hands). This called for much ingenuity on the part of the special effects departments, but a solution could usually be found.

For example, in David O. Selznick's THE PRISONER OF ZENDA (1937) with Ronald Coleman playing both Rudolph Rassendyll and King Rudolf V, I recall a scene in which the "twins" must shake hands (or something similar--this is from memory). They handled that one by actually compositing only the head and shoulders of one "twin" into the previously shot footage of the other twin shaking hands with a stand-in.

You really can't even see it on TV, but the effect is barely discernable on a projected print. (I happen to be lucky enough to have that film on 16mm.) Well, you might be able to detect the matte on a good TV if you looked very closely.

If you taped the series HOLLYWOOD off of AMC in 1997 (the series narrated by Ed Asner about RKO studios), there is one episode in which special effects wizard Linwood Dunn (who pioneered the modern use of matte effects) explains some of this using film clips from CITIZEN KANE (1941) and BRINGING UP BABY (1938). The scenes from BRINGING UP BABY with the leopard would have been done with the same technique as was used when compositing "twins"-- so you might find that helpful to look at. Some of these shots had camera movement and, thus, used the traveling matte process.

© 1998 John Cunningham

I NOW OWN THE SEASON I DVD!!!!!!!

Here are a couple of restored cuts:

I noticed the one talked about above in "The Honeymoon."

"Katchoo!" has an added scene of Mike and Carol talking on the phone while he is at the office about Jan's "allergy." She talks about him coming home for lunch because she is making tuna salad for him.

There are a lot of small lines of dialogue that are restored on all episodes. I have only watched the first disk so far. I didn't notice any added stuff in "Kitty Karry All is Missing." based on the TV Land version of the same episode. I can tell everyone however that the shows are uncut. The pilot runs 25 minutes, the others come in at about 25 minutes and 30 seconds. (The pilot has no tag, which is probably the reason why.)

It appears that some episodes on TV Land, Nick at Night, and syndicate, were edited worse than others. I look forward to the skiing scene in "Father of the Year." Subsequent DVD season releases will give us the scenes of Myron the mouse getting loose in the master bedroom in "The Impractical Joker," as well as the famous "Bathrobe Scene" with Bobby and Cindy in "Goodbye Alice, Hello."

Jack

"The Wheeler Dealer" restores a scene on TV Land/Nick versions after Mike tells Greg about the business practices of "Caviot Emptor" (Latin for "Let the buyer beware") Greg is in his room with Peter and Bobby and he tells them what "Caviot Emptor" is. Bobby tries to say his full name in Latin and Greg says, "That's Pig Latin" He then talkes about how he needs to get rid of his car and says, "Guess I'll just have to find someone who's dumber than I am." Peter replies, "That isn't gonna be easy."

Another restored line is when the whole family is outside looking at Greg's car and Mike says, "You know, it kind of reminds me of an old car my dad used to have. In fact I think it is my dad's old car."

All these scenes have been cut in syndication

Jack

This week on Jeopardy!, one of the questions (answers?) in a category about phrases w/ Latin origins mentioned The Brady Bunch using this phrase that means "Let the buyer beware". Of course the question was "What is caveat emptor?". It was nice seeing a BB reference in Jeopardy! for a change.

More Brady Bunch Season 1 DVD Restored Cuts:

"Every Boy Does it Once": This has added footage of Mike talking to Bobby in his den, while he is fixing a doll cradle for Cindy. Some moving interaction takes place here between Mike Lookinland and Robert Reed in this scene.

As a sidenote: I am finding the episodes more "moving" and "emotional" by seeing the original uncut versions! Story lines and sequences make so much more sense when you see the shows fully uncut! It's funny, because I had tears in my eyes watching Every Boy Does it Once and Katchoo! (when the boys are saying goodbye to Tiger in their room.) I don't remember feeling the same emotion during TV Land or syndicated runs of the series. Probably because commercials and cuts kill the moments.

Jack

Right now I'm watching "54-40 or Fight" on DVD, just having seen it on TV Land at 3AM this morning. I have noticed so far the restoration of a scene where Mike and Carol discuss possible gifts for the whole family, since the kids had agreed to let Carol pick out their gift. Carol suggested a grandfather clock, which Mike suggested boys wouldn't use, since they tell time by asking "Dad, what time is it?". Then Mike suggested a pool table, ironic in context of the 5th season ep where the family is stuck w/ a pool table from Mike's boss, but then Carol suggested that girls don't play pool. Mike then mentions a college date who played pool well, leading Carol to comment "I'm not interested in the lurid women of your past.". There also seems to be more conversation among the boys and girls about what they should get after they find out that the company is going out of business. That includes Jan's line, after Marcia says that boys don't use hair dryers, "They should. Boys have longer hair than girls these days.".

BTW, since DVDs allow pausing, I thought I'd post here the article segment on the paper announcing the trading stamp company closing:

CHECKER TRADING STAMPS GOING OUT OF BUSINESS --- 30 DAY DEADLINE TO CASH IN STAMPS

The Checker Corporation, a national trading stamp organization, has announced the forthcoming liquidation of its assets and has requested that all premiums, exchangeable for the stamps, be redeemed within the next 30 days. If such stamps are not redeemed, their spokesman went on to say, they will be of no value.

The company advised redeeming their stamps as quickly as possible with the last day of the month the definite deadline. To repeat, the Checker Trading Stamp company is going out of business in 30 days.

(smaller print, obscured by being out of picture frame, obviously from the existing paper)
The present plan again demonstrates...the whole world the great vital...
---

Pretty nicely written, though the last sentence related to the story (To repeat...) looks like something that would be in a radio or tv story. What written story says "To repeat..."?

I'm not sure if this was covered, but in Bobby's Hero; At the dinner table the family is talking about better examples of who can be Bobby's hero other than Jesse James. When it's Greg's turn he suggests someone like Wilt Chamberlin(I think), and Bobby retorts back "Fat chance I have at being 7'2", and BLACK!" TV Land edits out Bobby saying "and black" with silence. Is this Political Correctness gone too far? I never thought that line was offensive in the slightest!

No, nothing offensive about that at all. He's only stating the truth. He's not making a negative comment about blacks.

Dear Libby on the DVD has a restored scene that is no longer on TV Land or syndication. Mike and Carol spend about two minutes rearranging furnature, while they talk about the problems that the letter has caused for the family.

Jack

Guys,

I can't recall if this on the list or not, but "My Sister, Benedict Arnold" (Kathy Lawrence vs. Warren Mullany) omits more of the dunking booth scenes in TV Land's version that syndicate leaves in. Peter is trying to dunk Bobby into the booth and keeps missing. Bobby tells him "Come on! Hit the Target!" Peter says, "I'm trying to! Carol opens the patio door and yells out to Peter that it's time to do his homework. Peter says, "In a minute, Mom" Carol says, "Not in a minute, Now!" Peter says, "Oh OK" and starts to leave. Bobby yells, "Hey, I wanna get dunked!" Peter says, "You heard what Mom said."

(Varify this if you remember, not sure here) I think at this point Bobby dunks himself and Peter sees him do it and yells out, "You made a dumb looking mermaid!" Bobby either gives him a funny look or says something back to him, but I can't remember what it is.

I can't wait for Season 3 on DVD! (I can't wait for all of the seasons on DVD!) I taped this episode last night. From what I remember it was timed at about 21:42. Most of what is cut is Bobby and Peter's dunking conversation, but there could be more Greg and Marcia conniptions about Kathy and Warren that are cut. I can't wait to see them restored on DVD!

Definitely in my top 5 episodes of the series!

Jack

I thought it was inappropriate for a wholesome show like The Brady Bunch; he was not yet ten years of age at the time.


Isn't it ironic how the word SEX did not appear in an Brady Bunch episode until the very last show, yet it appeared in the very FIRST episode of The Partridge Family (and again spoken by a 10-year-old)! Shirley asks Danny if the singer for their group (a rabbi's daughter) has a nice singing voice. Danny responds, "No, but she has a body that won't quit. I decided the group needed a little sex-appeal."

Guys,

With regards to the famous long ago deleted "Skinny Dipping Scene" from "Goodbye Alice Hello" Does anyone remember the scene that comes before or after it?

Jack

Right now I'm watching "54-40 or Fight" on DVD, just having seen it on TV Land at 3AM this morning. I have noticed so far the restoration of a scene where Mike and Carol discuss possible gifts for the whole family, since the kids had agreed to let Carol pick out their gift. Carol suggested a grandfather clock, which Mike suggested boys wouldn't use, since they tell time by asking "Dad, what time is it?". Then Mike suggested a pool table, ironic in context of the 5th season ep where the family is stuck w/ a pool table from Mike's boss, but then Carol suggested that girls don't play pool. Mike then mentions a college date who played pool well, leading Carol to comment "I'm not interested in the lurid women of your past.". There also seems to be more conversation among the boys and girls about what they should get after they find out that the company is going out of business. That includes Jan's line, after Marcia says that boys don't use hair dryers, "They should. Boys have longer hair than girls these days.".

BTW, since DVDs allow pausing, I thought I'd post here the article segment on the paper announcing the trading stamp company closing:

CHECKER TRADING STAMPS GOING OUT OF BUSINESS --- 30 DAY DEADLINE TO CASH IN STAMPS

The Checker Corporation, a national trading stamp organization, has announced the forthcoming liquidation of its assets and has requested that all premiums, exchangeable for the stamps, be redeemed within the next 30 days. If such stamps are not redeemed, their spokesman went on to say, they will be of no value.

The company advised redeeming their stamps as quickly as possible with the last day of the month the definite deadline. To repeat, the Checker Trading Stamp company is going out of business in 30 days.

(smaller print, obscured by being out of picture frame, obviously from the existing paper)
The present plan again demonstrates...the whole world the great vital...
---

Pretty nicely written, though the last sentence related to the story (To repeat...) looks like something that would be in a radio or tv story. What written story says "To repeat..."?


I just watched this episode on Channel 23 in Chicago, which just started airing the Brady Bunch. I wish I had the DVD to compare, but it seemed as though some of the scenes had a grainier look to them, so I'm not sure if these episdodes have been "recut" or if they are from an earlier syndication cycle. All of the aformentioned scenes were shown, so maybe they have.

I think I read somewhere that this episode has a scene with Tiger getting stamps all over him. That was not shown.

This thread is enlightening. I'm glad I happened upon it. I have all the episodes taped from TVLand's Marathon. Plus most taped a second time as I was trying to get them leading up to the marathon (with other shows on the tape so I didn't record over them and just keep the marathon versions). Anyway, I think I'll start buying these DVDs. I was going to anyway, but now I'll step that up a bit. These should be complete.

I just watched this episode on Channel 23 in Chicago, which just started airing the Brady Bunch. I wish I had the DVD to compare, but it seemed as though some of the scenes had a grainier look to them, so I'm not sure if these episdodes have been "recut" or if they are from an earlier syndication cycle. All of the aformentioned scenes were shown, so maybe they have.

I think I read somewhere that this episode has a scene with Tiger getting stamps all over him. That was not shown.

My guess is that these are the same prints that were playing in syndication before TV Land got exclusive rights. Paramount has been recycling the same prints of "Happy Days" in broadcast syndication for years, so why would they strike new prints of the Bradys?

I'm curious -- what logo is at the end? The old Paramount logo (a division of Gulf & Western), or the new CGI one (a Viacom company).

its the old paramount logo, in the little box.

A Couple More Notables: (DVD Restorations)

"54-40 and Fight" has an area that is messed up in ALL VERSIONS. TV Land has restored a scene where the boys are getting their stamps together in the house and the girls are organizing their books on the patio. They each accuse the other of taking the others' books. (Tiger has the stamps stuck on him from Alice giving him a bath.) This is restored.

Also, the scene cut from TV Land but included in syndication about Carol suggestiing they get a grandfather clock. Mike says, "Boys don't look at clocks, they say, "Dad, what time is it?" The same with the discussion about the pool table when Carol and Mike are in bed together.

But in the TV land version, the kids are sitting at the table the conversation goes something like "We have 54 books and they have 40." Cindy says..."That makes....." (then they cut to the next scene) so it makes her look stupid! like she can't add! LOL!)

What really happens is all six kids are at the table talking about the trading stamps and debating about the rowboat vs. sowing machine. The kids do their math calculations AT THE TABLE (not walking away like at the other edited versions.) Cindy says at the table. "That makes 94 books." Then Carol also shows up and gives both kids cataloges to look at. Then they leave. The point is, Cindy's line about the book totals is so messed up on TV Land/Syndicate that the scene doesn't even match the line!

Also, in "The Under Graduate" Greg asks Marcia about what makes men attrative to women. The syndicate/TV Land just says, "What's in...what's really in, is a mustache." The DVD has Marcia talking about other famous men/movie stars and Greg trying to mock them with facial/body gestures. Then, we get her mustache line.

Jack

More DVD Restorations.

Extended scenes of Jan and Cindy looking for Marcia, and an added scene of Mike and Carol coming upstairs to check on the boys seeing that they are asleep in Father of the Year.

Also in Father of the Year, Alice's skiing lesson in the backyard is cut by TV Land. There is also an extended version that syndicate/TBS never showed of the boys getting her up on the hayloft.

Jack

DVD Restorations (The Hero and The Possible Dream)

The Hero: After Peter saves Tina in the toystore, a scene with Greg and Bobby playing ball and Peter coming up to them excitedly to say what he did. They don't believe him.

Another scene with the girls wondering what to say to Peter when they find out what he did.

More dialoge from Mike and Carol about why he shouldn't have accepted all of Mrs. Spencer's gifts.

Added dialogue of Peter talking to his friends about his after school party.

A small cut scene of Bobby and Cindy on the swingset and Bobby telling her that he has to take out the garbage instead of Peter, because "Heros don't take out the garbage."

The Possible Dream: A longer list of bookstores is given by the Friend In Need Office Manager. This includes the books going to Elmos drive-in (in connection with Elmos bookstore.) The Elmos Drive-in gag ("connected with Elmos bookstore") has been cut for many years.

Alice talking to Marcia about how she recorded every romance in her own diary and that was the shortest chapter in the book. (There might also be some more lines that are added here, but I can't varify for sure.)

Jack

I got my "Brady Bunch" Season 2 DVD set in the mail yesterday. I've already finished watching the first disc (there are four in total). I believe all the eps are fully restored to their original state. I just watched the episode with Jan making up the pretend boyfriend, George Glass. Remember when Jan has the operator call the Brady home because Jan said they were having trouble with their phone? She gives the operator the Bradys' phone number. TV Land edits out the phone number--but now, we get the full phone number on the DVD. But there is one thing missing in the set: Extras! No extras are included in the Season 2 set whatsoever! That's a bummer. It would have been nice to at least had some commentary on a few eps. I've been such a HUGE "Brady" fan since I was a youngster, and now I'm close to 40.

By the way, Jack, I tried e-mailing you to join my Yesteryearland group on Yahoo! It is a fun and friendly group in which we talk about classic entertainment, including "The Brady Bunch." Would love to have you and other Brady fans in the group!:

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/yesteryearland/

SEASON 2 (Noted DVD Restored Scenes)

The Dropout: Greg telling Bobby and Peter about how he's gonna be a major leaguer talking to them in the garage. Mike telling Greg about the biggest bonus a ballplayer ever got. Extended dialogue of Carol and Mike talking about the phone call from Greg's teacher about how he didn't turn in his history assignment. Added dialogue after Greg has his energy drink. After he says he's riding his bike over to the game, he gives Marcia and Cindy his autograph. More shots of the actual ball game scenes.

The Babysitters: Mike asking Greg and Marcia to turn off the gas. She says, "Dad, our stove's electric" More shots of Mike and Carol at the restrauent using the phone to call home. More dialogue about Carol worrying about Cindy's sniffles. More dialogue about Carol, Mike, and Alice calling people and looking for a sitter before Greg and Marcia come downstairs and tell them that they are too old to have one.

The Slumber Caper: Marcia's line when she tells Mr. Randoph that she doodled George Washington and not Mrs. Denton. The girls' "Ha" game right before they play "Truth or Dare."

Call Me Irresponsible: Peter and Bobby giving Greg money for rides in his new car that he is saving up for before telling them he got fired.

Jack

More Season 2 DVD Restorations:

What Goes Up? Several scenes of everyone in the family bringing Bobby books and games to play to help him pass the time as he recovers from his sprained ankle.

Carol and Mike actually talking about getting Bobby a companian (i.e a parakeet) because Bobby is so bored.

The scene of Greg on stilts encouranging Bobby to try them out.

Confessions Confessions...(i.e "Don't Play Ball in the House")

Added scenes of all the girls discovering the broken vase and the boys swearing them to secrecy so that Peter can still go camping.

A small added scene with some added dialogue when the boys buy the glue.

Mike coming home with flowers for Carol and the girls telling the boys that they are worried that she will want to put them in the vase.

Added dialogue of Alice in the Den talking to Mike and Carol elaborating about where the vase was when she claimes to have broken it to try to protect the kids from getting punished.

Jack

SEASON 2 DVD RESTORED SCENES:

The Impractical Joker: Extended scene after Mike helps Greg run Myran through the maze in the garage, Jan also comes outside and offers to help Greg after Mike leaves.

Where There's Smoke: More dialogue with Marcia hinting to Alice on whether or not she should tell Carol and Mike about Greg's smoking. Also, more conversation aboout Greg asking Mike for an advance on his allowence to get his guitar's amplifier fixed.

Will The Real Jan Brady Please Stand Up?: (Lots restored here!) More scenes with Greg and Bobby joking around how a girl Peter hates will be at Lucy Winter's birthday party. More scenes of Jan in the store looking for a wig and talking to the saleslady. Much longer sequences of Jan looking around at the wigs in the store and trying on the "Midnight Temptress" wig. The long-ago deleted scene of Jan in the store trying to put a handbag on her head!

Another long ago deleted scene of the saleslady saying, "Helen how many times have I told you not to mix up the merchandise? A little girl almost walked out of the store with this handbag on her head! It's very embarrassing."

A scene with Carol crying while watching a movie while Mike is reading before Jan comes home after being humiliated at Lucy's party about her wig.

Jack

RESTORED DVD SCENES:

Coming Out Party:

An early scene of Alice insisting she is not going on Mr. Phillips' boat because she gets seasick. A scene with the boys and Alice in the backyard where they simulate a boat with a balance beam board and some chairs and get her to try to get the feel of being on a boat.

Our Son, The Man:

A scene of Mike coming home and Carol telling Mike that Greg wants to talk to him. Added dialogue of Mike and Greg trying to talk in the boys' room and Peter and Bobby bothering Greg. The long-ago deleted scene with Alice getting stuck in the sleeping bag that Cindy says, "The zipper always sticks on!" Greg getting Alice "unstuck." Alice warning Greg about moving a chair of Mike's as he begins to trannsfrom Mike's den into his groovey batchelor pad.

Jack

More Restored Scenes on DVD:

"The Liberation of Marcia Brady": A couple small restored shots of the boys mocking Marcia's stance on women's lib when they see her on TV. The boys telling Mike about Greg joining her Sunflower Girls Club. (Before Greg reads the guidebook and finds out he is too old and Peter has to take his place!) Mike warning Greg not to get carried away about it. Alice also helping Marcia do some sort of breathing excercise for her Frontier Scouts Field Initiation Test.

More outdoor shots when Marcia has her field test. Marcia doing more test activities, including bandaging a scout! (Not sure if it is Greg cuz he has bandages all over his face), but he says something like, "You covered my mouth! I can't breathe!"

Lights Out: Peter doing a dissapearing banana trick in the girl's room and also a trick with dissapearing and reappearing hankerchiefs.

Guys,

Sidenote: It really is almost like watching a new series with all of the DVD restorations!!! I will try to provide info for the board as I watch and all Brady fans feel free to add!!!

Mods or Admins might want to pin up this thread for easy reference!

Jack

WE ARE ON A ROLL!!!!! THIS IS NEATO!!!! (DVD Restored Cuts)

The Winner: Several added scenes of the family talking about buying magazine subscriptions from Bobby. Lots of added complaints to Mike and Carol from Greg and Marcia about Bobby being a "sore loser"..."little stinker"...etc. Mike/Carol explaining to Greg and Marcia how hurt Bobby feels because he is the only Brady without a trophy. Added scene of the family encouraging Bobby just before Mike and Carol take him to the ice cream eating contest. Much longer scenes at the Cartoon King TV Studio.

Double Parked: A few more scenes of the family working on pettioning to keep the park and Mike assuring them to keep fighting against his firm who wants to design the courthouse in the same area. A longer dialogue between Alice and the man who wouldn't sign the petition for Cindy and Bobby. (That guy would later be....Harry Duggan in the epiosde where the Brady's go to court!!)

Jack

RESTORED DVD SCENES:

Coming Out Party:

An early scene of Alice insisting she is not going on Mr. Phillips' boat because she gets seasick. A scene with the boys and Alice in the backyard where they simulate a boat with a balance beam board and some chairs and get her to try to get the feel of being on a boat.


Strangely enough, a similar scene from "Father of the Year", where the kids try to simulate skiing for Alice (using a ramp and hay) is usually cut, too.

I had totally forgotten abt that "nude" scene. You brought back memories for me. I had seen it during the first run and in reruns. Haven't seen Brady Bunch in a long while so I didn't even know they had done that. I bet if I had seen the episode, I probably wouldn't have even noticed that scene was deleted since it's been so long.

WE ARE ON A ROLL!!!!! THIS IS NEATO!!!! (DVD Restored Cuts)

The Winner: Several added scenes of the family talking about buying magazine subscriptions from Bobby. Lots of added complaints to Mike and Carol from Greg and Marcia about Bobby being a "sore loser"..."little stinker"...etc. Mike/Carol explaining to Greg and Marcia how hurt Bobby feels because he is the only Brady without a trophy. Added scene of the family encouraging Bobby just before Mike and Carol take him to the ice cream eating contest. Much longer scenes at the Cartoon King TV Studio.[/B
Jack

Also restored is the blooper in "The Winner." Notice that Mike, Carol, and Bobby leave for the "Cartoon King" TV show in the blue convertible--but come home in the brown station wagon! Oops! TV Land omits one of these scenes--can't remember which one now--but now we finally get to see this blooper return! :D

Guys,

Still need to watch "Alice's September Song" (The Mark Millard episode) and "Tell it Like it is" to finish Season 2! But, I haven't seen these episodes in a long, long time. (Especially the Mark Millard one.) So if someone else wants to do a DVD restored scene list for those two that would be groovy! LOL!

Jack

I had totally forgotten abt that "nude" scene. You brought back memories for me. I had seen it during the first run and in reruns. Haven't seen Brady Bunch in a long while so I didn't even know they had done that. I bet if I had seen the episode, I probably wouldn't have even noticed that scene was deleted since it's been so long.

Just for the record, that scene was from Season 4: "Goodbye Alice, Hello" where she takes the waitress job. Bobby and Cindy come downstairs wearing only thier bathrobes with nothing underneath them! They talk about going to a friends' house to go swimming and Alice says, "You are not going to swim in an X-rated swimming pool without your parent's permission." (What prompts her to say this is she looks to see whether Bobby is wearing his new swimming trunks or the ones with the holes in them.) She looks at his robe and is shocked!!! "You're not wearing your bathing suit, your wearing your birthday suit!"

Jack

Guys,

Still need to watch "Alice's September Song" (The Mark Millard episode) and "Tell it Like it is" to finish Season 2! But, I haven't seen these episodes in a long, long time. (Especially the Mark Millard one.) So if someone else wants to do a DVD restored scene list for those two that would be groovy! LOL!

Jack

I just saw both the DVD/TV Land's version of "Tell it Like it Is" Here are the DVD restored scenes cut from TV Land:

1.) A scene of the boys talking about Carol writing for Tomorrow's Woman magazine. (TV Land does include the girls talking about it, but omits the boys' scene)

2.) Two scenes with the boys amd the girls certain that Carol's article is going to be published practicing to be famous. One scene has the girls pretending to drink from tea cups and among other things, Cindy says that she is called "Cindy" in the article, but her real name is Cynthia.

2a.) Another scene with the boys wondering why Greg is putting on a shirt and tie. Peter says, "What are you getting dressed up for?" Greg answers, "Pete, when you get to be famous, you can't look like a slob." Greg, than tries to straighten his tie and says, "There, how do I look?" Peter answers, "Like a slob with a tie!"

Jack

1st time poster so be gentle as I have not read the previous 14 pages.

In The Brady Girls Get Married there is a scene with the girls and Carol (and possibly Mike). I think the scene is where everyone is getting dressed for the big event. I think we see the girls all sitting together as carol and Mike look on. The scene then disolves to a clip of the girls as young girls sitting on the edge of a double bed. Thing is, I cannot find any episode where this comes from. As far as I can tell it was never used in the show. I do not recall ever seeing the double bed used in the clip in any episode. In the clip the girls are still young so it would have been filmed during the first or second season. Perhaps a cut scene from the pilot where the kids join the parents at the hotel. Any views would be most welcome.

That scene is from the pilot, "The Honeymoon", and takes place in Carol Tyler Martin's bedroom, where she and the girls are getting ready for the wedding. It's not cut - check out the next time the pilot airs on TV Land.

That scene is from the pilot, "The Honeymoon", and takes place in Carol Tyler Martin's bedroom, where she and the girls are getting ready for the wedding. It's not cut - check out the next time the pilot airs on TV Land.
No, in that scene the girls are in their night clothes. In the scene from '...Get Married' they are in day clothes.

SEASON 3 DVD RESTORED CUT SCENES!

The Grand Canyon Episodes: Way too many to mention!

Part 1: Grand Canyon or Bust: The girls talking about the trip and lengthy conversations about Alice afraid to ride a mule to the bottom of the canyon. Lots more shots of the car going down the road and the family singing different songs which are greatly shortend on TV Land/syndicated prints or cut all together in some cases. Huge restored scene of Greg filming his "Great Stagecoach Robbery" with his little 8 mm movie camera. Longer scenes of Greg telling them what to do in the stagecoach scenes. Peter "holding up" the stagecoach. Bobby's "dying" scene after Peter "shoots" him! Large scenes with Mr. Brown giving the family a tour of Cactus Creek before they get to the jail.

Part 2: Ghost Town USA: Lots of exterior shots of Grand Canyon. A much longer mule-ride sequence. Carol and Cindy getting that old water pump ready. (Greatly shortened on TV Land) Alice and the girls talking to Bessie the mule about getting her to plow the word "help"

Part 3: The Brady Braves: Much longer sequences of the family looking for Bobby and Cindy. A few scenes of the rest of the family back at camp such as Mike waking up Carol after he finds Bobby and Cindy with Jimmy the Indian. He says something like, "Honey you may be looking at the first Indian on Mars." Bobby's comment when he first meets Jimmy about being "Palefaced" has been cut by TV Land/syndicated prints for politically correct reasons.

The Wheeler Dealer: Long ago deleted scene of Greg in the kitchen with Alice and simulating "driving" to her with a kitchen chair and a plate. I have NEVER seen this before, so this must have been one of the first scenes cut when the show went into syndication. (Sidenote: Other than "The Tatletake" espisode, this (so far at least) is the only episode where Alice says that she does not know how to drive,) This prompts Greg to give her a simulated driving test. This is another scene that I have not seen in 30 years, if ever.

My Sister Benedict Arnold: (Yes!!! The Warren Mulaney vs. Kathy Lawrence fued comes to DVD!!!) One of my favorite episodes!!! Oh..the restored scenes! A scene of Marcia preparing for her date with Warren and she says she is nervous because of Greg's disdain for him. Cindy points out that she is wearing two different shoes. This scene must have been cut long ago.

The restored scenes of Peter trying to dunck Bobby in the Brady Booth. Carol telling Peter to come in and do his homework. Bobby dunking himself, Peter coming back and saying he makes "a dumb looking mermaid." Bobby tries to splash him with water.

MUCH MORE TO COME!!! (Feel free to add to the list!)

Jack

MORE RESTORED DVD SCENES:

The Personality Kid: Peter telling Greg that he has no personality when they talk privately. More scenes with Bobby encouraging Mike and Carol to have practice fire drills because Bobby and Cindy are learning about home-safety in school. A longer sequence of Peter talking to Marcia and her friend about the Ivasion of the Potato People movie.

Juliet is The Sun: Expanded scene of Greg and Alice talking about how to boost Marcia's confidence (before she gets "star happy.") TV Land picks this up in the middle of their conversation. A small added scene when Marcia decides to play Juliet. TV Land cuts after she says, "I'm beautiful, and nobel.....I'm Juliet!!" What happens after that is Bobby comes into the kitchen and asks, "What was that?" Carol says, "That was the power of positive thinking." Restored scene of Jan and Peter practicing to be palace guards and doing their "Hark!, Who Goes There?" Lines. Mikes lines questioning that "Romeo wears glasses?" when he sees Harold Axelrod for the first time.

Interesting tidbit!! Listen closely when Marcia is looking in the mirror and her "conscience" is reflecting on all of the things that were said to her, Jan says, "You're a terrific actress!" Mike says, "You look beautiful and nobel to me!" Carol says, "Your a beautiful girl!" and Greg says, "Don't play it so cool, you know you're something else." What is interesting is that Greg's line was NEVER said previously to allow Marica to reflect on it! Greg tells Marcia that a guy he knows thinks she is groovey and Greg does try to encourage her. But he never says that specific quote. I had always thought that Greg's line was cut by TV Land or syndication prints. But with the uncut DVD it is not included! This scene could have been cut at the time of filming or else it qualifies as a "Brady Blooper!"

Jack

I enjoy reading these observations.

SEASON 3 DVD RESTORED CUT SCENES!



[B]Part 3: The Brady Braves: Much longer sequences of the family looking for Bobby and Cindy. A few scenes of the rest of the family back at camp such as Mike waking up Carol after he finds Bobby and Cindy with Jimmy the Indian. He says something like, "Honey you may be looking at the first Indian on Mars." Bobby's comment when he first meets Jimmy about being "Palefaced" has been cut by TV Land/syndicated prints for politically correct reasons.

Actually, Jack, I heard that paleface comment on TV Land's rerun just a few weeks ago.

Actually, Jack, I heard that paleface comment on TV Land's rerun just a few weeks ago.
Thanks TV Guy!

It had been awhile since I had seen the TV Land version of that episode! I am surprised that they left it in!

And Now A Word From Our Sponsor: Restored scenes of Mr. Farnam "scanning the pad" before filming. Calling Alice, "Pussycat Alice" Scenes of the kids pretending to be famous because they are in a commercial. (The boys wonder what they are going to buy with the money that they will make, the girls pretending to be in a TV commercial when they are brushing their teeth and doing their hair in the bathroom. ) Added shots of Mike and Carol looking over the contract.

The Private Ear: A longer scene of Marcia and Greg arguing when Peter hints that he knows about Greg not returning an overdue library book. Mike and Carol in their bedroom talking about clothes and plans for their ski trip. Peter talking about needing some new records that he hopes to get for his "Surprise Party." Added scene of Mike trying to fix an old typewriter and Peter offering to help saying that he could use a new typewriter.

(Another Brady Blooper in "The Private Ear")

The tape recording that Greg and Marcia make for "the surprise party" does NOT have the same exact words on the tape as it does when they make the live recording! The live quote said by Greg is, "Peter's been failing Geometry all year, and bang he buckles down and brings home an "A." But when the tape is played back by Peter and than by Carol and Mike the quote is, "Peter's been failing Geometry all year and bang he brings home an "A." The words "buckles down" are nowhere on the tape, but they are clearly spoken and therefore should be on the tape when played back!

Her Sister's Shadow: Carol handing screws to Mike as he is trying to put something up or repair something in his den. Bobby and Peter mocking Jan's pom-pom tryout and refusing to help Peter says, "I am not gonna be any pom-pom girl!" Bobby says, "I am not even gonna be a pom-pom boy!" Slightly longer pom-pom tryout sequence in the school's gym.

Season 3 seems to have some of my favorite episodes. I should get it.

Click: A sequence of Alice helping Greg and the kids throw the football around in the backyard because Greg says he needs some help understanding some of the plays. Slightly longer sequence of Greg taking some pictures of Lynette on the patio. A slightly longer sequence with Greg and his coach after he hurts his ribs

Getting Davey Jones: Longer sequence of the boys mocking Davey Jones when Marcia says she is going to try to get him to sing at the prom. Also an extended scene of Marica talking to her teacher about trying to get him. More dialogue of Marica trying to write a letter to Davey Jones and the kids helping her with what to say. A small line restored about Carol saying that Davey Jones is the greatest thing around here since Pepperoni Pizza.

Jack

The Not So Rose Colored Glasses: (Very little cut in this episode) Some added dialogue between Carol and Alice, with Carol trying to give her more hints about where her anniversery present is. (This is one episode where TV Land restored quite a bit because there was a lot cut in syndication.)

The Teeter Totter Caper: Alice trying to make a spaghetti receipe from a radio cooking show. She gets stuck cuz she can't find garlic. Cindy asks her to come out to take her place while she goes to the bathroom

Little Big Men: Mike and Carol come home from shopping and Cindy asks if it's tattling if you know something and you want to tell someone but they don't want you to tell what it is. Mike says, "Sure it is." Cindy says, "Good because Bobby almost fell off the house!" A couple more shots of Bobby stretching himself from the swingset.

Jack

MORE DVD RESTORATIONS:

Dough Re Mei (a.k.a Peter's Voice Is Changing.)

Extended scene of Mike, Carol, and Alice waking up in the middle of the night thinking they hear a Coyotte and it's Peter out in the car trying to get his voice back to normal. They think he's a coyotte! A scene of Peter using a vaporizer and Greg feeding him honey. (Many 16mm back ups were used in this episode to restore it.) Most are on TV Land's version of this episode.

Jan's Aunt Jenny: (A lot restored here.) Mike working on fixing the old Victrola. Bobby fooling around with the gamaphone and Mike yelling at him! Jan talking to Mike about heredity/genes after she get's Aunt Jenny's picture. Extended sequence of Marica trying to ask Jan what the problem is.

The Big Bet: A scene of Mike showing Bobby how to do some exersizes when he is working out in the back yard. A couple of added lines of Greg, Bobby, and Rachel at the drive-in movie. (Very little cut based on TV Land's print.)

The Power of The Press: A small scene of Alice playing with the puppets. Small dialoge restored between Peter and Mr. Price about his exam. (Very little cut based on TV Land's print.)

Jack

MORE DVD RESTORATIONS:
Jan's Aunt Jenny: (A lot restored here.) Mike working on fixing the old Victrola. Bobby fooling around with the gamaphone and Mike yelling at him! Jan talking to Mike about heredity/genes after she get's Aunt Jenny's picture. Extended sequence of Marica trying to ask Jan what the problem is. A longer tag sequence. TV Land and syndicate roll the end credits shortly after Jan, Mike, and Carol look at the names on her autographed cast, What actually happens and has long ago been cut is that Jan gets a call from a friend and they talk. Than the end-credits come up.

Jack1000, was the scene with the totem pole restored? Based on past threads (and possibly Usenet newsgroups) and assuming it was another gift from Aunt Jenny I thought that was also cut out by Nick(ed) at Nite, just to name one.

Jack1000, was the scene with the totem pole restored? Based on past threads (and possibly Usenet newsgroups) and assuming it was another gift from Aunt Jenny I thought that was also cut out by Nick(ed) at Nite, just to name one.


Oh James!

I remember a totum pole thing but I can't place within this episode! OK guys, help me here! Where did the totum pole come from?

This episode runs about 25:50 seconds on DVD. I had forgotten about the plaster cast with the celeberities on it and always assumed that the gift that she sent WAS a totum pole!

This is gonna drive me crazy! Could there be another episode where it is mentioned that Aunt Jenny sends a totum pole? I don't remember any other ecentric or strange relatives within the Brady clan. Carol had an Aunt Martha who was always forgetting things. (Episode: Locket Lost, Locket Found) a "gabby" friend Ellie whom she could never get off the phone (Episodes: Coming Out Party, My Sister Benedict Arnold) and either a friend Martha (or she is talking to her Aunt again about resizing her dress, not specified. (Episode: Sorry, Right Number.) and her Aunt Jenny. But I know the Brady Bunch like the back of my hand and this one has me stumped!!! I am even seeing a totum pole and hearing conversation about it. I am going to research this question.

Jack

This is gonna drive me crazy! Could there be another episode where it is mentioned that Aunt Jenny sends a totum pole? I don't remember any other ecentric or strange relatives within the Brady clan. Carol had an Aunt Martha who was always forgetting things. (Episode: Locket Lost, Locket Found)...


It was Aunt Martha, rather than Aunt Jenny, who sends the Bradys a totem pole in the tag scene of "Lost Locket, Found Locket". Jan makes a corny joke about how she's the middle girl on the totem pole (slightly garbling her lines). Carol and Mike laugh hysterically, and then the credits roll.

MORE DVD RESTORATIONS:

Sergent Emma: Emma inspecting the boys room. Longer exersize sequences, including the family doing knee-bends in the yard.

Cindy Brady, Lady: Cindy talking to Alice in her room as she is putting beaty cream on to go to bed.

My Fair Opponent: More scenes of Marcia preparing Molly to be Senior Banquet Hostess. Cindy being "overly nice" to Molly when meeting her for the first time. More dialoge with Mike, Carol, and Marcia playing Chinese Checkers, after Marcia loses to Molly.

The Fender Benders: Large sequence of Greg talking to a friend on the phone about Carol's car accident. His friend makes predjudicial remarks against women drivers. (Probably cut today for discrimination/PC reasons.) Marcia picks up another phone extension, hears Greg's friend's conversation, and blasts him. Another scene of Peter calling Bobby a creep and "Benedict Arnold" when he learns that Bobby may have to testify against Carol.

Jack

SEASON 4 DVD RESTORATIONS:

Hawaii Bound: A MUCH longer monologue/tour of Hawaii. (TV Land did some restorations that syndication had left out) but more site-seeing scenes are included. The biggest restorations are when the family is touring Pearl Harbor monuments. David the tour guide takes a picture of some of the family. Peter and Bobby fool around with a squirt gun on one of the carriers. Carol and Mike having after dinner drinks at night. Bobby trying to play the Ukilliele and Cindy telling how bad he sounds. (I think I remember this from TV Land, but the DVD uses a 16mm print here for this scene.)

Pass The Tabu: No noticeable huge cuts (compared to TV Land's print.) EXCEPT the already talked about 20 second cut in on the DVD with the boys talking about whether or not they believe in the Tabu

The Tiki Caves: Didn't notice any cuts compared to TV Land's print.

It appears the largest restorations are on Part 1: All vacation episodes are missing the fill-in squares between the tag and the end credits

Today I am a Freshmen: More scenes of Peter working on his volcano and more of the kids saying, "If you get any of that on the patio, Alice will kill you." A brief scene of Marcia reluctant to finish her breakfast before her first day of school and Greg telling her to huirry up.

Cyrano Da Brady: Extended dialogue of Greg feeding Peter the romantic lines at Kerry's house. More dialogue of Greg telling Jan about his plan to convince Kerry that he is a "rat fink" by disgusing Marica as "The Other Woman" An added scene with Mike and Carol looking at a brochure for the art exhibit. Peter coming home from Kerry's house mistakenly thinking that Greg stole Kerry away from him. Greg coming home saying he was only trying to help Peter get closer to Kerry. Greg talking to Marcia about becoming "The Other Woman."

Fright Night: Extended dialogue of the boys waking up in the attic and the girls "Ghost Tape Recording." The girls making the ghost and Jan saying something like, "Wow, that's a big sheet!" Marcia says, "Of course! Did you ever see a ghost in a mini sheet?"

(Very little cut in this episode based on TV Land's version.)

The Show Must Go On?: Long ago deleted scene (perhaps going all the way back to the first syndicated run) of Peter and Bobby selling Family Frolic Night tickets door to door. A very geeky girl starts coming on to Peter and says her Mom will buy some tickets if Peter agrees to take this ugly girl to the movies! Peter says to Bobby, "Can you see me taking her????!!!" (LOL!) Bobby says, "You just blew a sure sale." Since they have sold so few tickets going door to door he talks Peter into taking the girl to the movies. Bobby says, "The tickets are a real bargain." Peter says something like, "What I just got was NO Bargain!!!"

(Does anyone remember this scene before the DVD came out? I sure don't!)

The Show Must Go On?: Long ago deleted scene (perhaps going all the way back to the first syndicated run) of Peter and Bobby selling Family Frolic Night tickets door to door. A very geeky girl starts coming on to Peter and says her Mom will buy some tickets if Peter agrees to take this ugly girl to the movies! Peter says to Bobby, "Can you see me taking her????!!!" (LOL!) Bobby says, "You just blew a sure sale." Since they have sold so few tickets going door to door he talks Peter into taking the girl to the movies. Bobby says, "The tickets are a real bargain." Peter says something like, "What I just got was NO Bargain!!!"

Does anyone remember this scene before the DVD came out? I sure don't!

I don't, either, Jack - and I remember watching the ABC daytime reruns in the early 70s. My guess is that this scene hasn't been seen since the primetime run.

I don't, either, Jack - and I remember watching the ABC daytime reruns in the early 70s. My guess is that this scene hasn't been seen since the primetime run.

You know what else I think remember but can't be sure of:

On "Call Me Irresponsible" you know the part where Randy Peterson is doing the scene with the drama teacher and Greg gets hit with the flowers when the teacher opens the door? For some strange reason, I remember watching this scene and having them do the scene at least two times:

Teacher (acting): "Where did you get those flowers?"

Randy: "From a boy named Jeff, aren't they super?

Teacher: You are much too young to be receiving flowers from a stanger. MUCH too young."

The first time through I remember (or think I do) the teacher asks Randy to do the scene over again. Than, on the second try, the teacher opens the door and Greg gets hit in the chest with the flowers.

I am about 55% sure that this was included and 45% sure that this was my imagination. However, as the timing of this episode comes in at over 25 minutes on the DVD, and there does not seem to be a flip in dialogue on the DVD, maybe it was my imagination. (Of course, if you had NEVER seen "Pass The Tabu" on syndicated prints or TV Land, you would never know that about 15-20 seconds of dialogue is missing on the DVD of that episode.)

Can anyone help me out with "Call Me Irresponsible?"

Jack

You know what else I think remember but can't be sure of:

On "Call Me Irresponsible" you know the part where Randy Peterson is doing the scene with the drama teacher and Greg gets hit with the flowers when the teacher opens the door? For some strange reason, I remember watching this scene and having them do the scene at least two times:I am about 55% sure that this was included and 45% sure that this was my imagination. However, as the timing of this episode comes in at over 25 minutes on the DVD, and there does not seem to be a flip in dialogue on the DVD, maybe it was my imagination. (Of course, if you had NEVER seen "Pass The Tabu" on syndicated prints or TV Land, you would never know that about 15-20 seconds of dialogue is missing on the DVD of that episode.)

Can anyone help me out with "Call Me Irresponsible?"

Jack

Jack, I am almost sure you're right about that missing part. I seem to remember that the scene was longer with the drama teacher and Randy rehearsing the play before Greg came in.

The Show Must Go On?: Long ago deleted scene (perhaps going all the way back to the first syndicated run) of Peter and Bobby selling Family Frolic Night tickets door to door. A very geeky girl starts coming on to Peter and says her Mom will buy some tickets if Peter agrees to take this ugly girl to the movies! Peter says to Bobby, "Can you see me taking her????!!!" (LOL!) Bobby says, "You just blew a sure sale." Since they have sold so few tickets going door to door he talks Peter into taking the girl to the movies. Bobby says, "The tickets are a real bargain." Peter says something like, "What I just got was NO Bargain!!!"

(Does anyone remember this scene before the DVD came out? I sure don't!)

I don't remember this scene, either. I did notice that this geeky girl is the same girl who had a crush on Peter in the episode in which Jan and Peter go to a birthday party, with Jan in the black wig. The girl's name in that episode ("Will the Real Jan Brady Please Stand Up?") was Margie, but in this "Show Must Go On?" episode, her name is Muriel. The writers shouldn't have changed her name! Maybe she had a identical twin sister, both in love with Peter, LOL!

Fright Night: Extended dialogue of the boys waking up in the attic and the girls "Ghost Tape Recording." The girls making the ghost and Jan saying something like, "Wow, that's a big sheet!" Marcia says, "Of course! Did you ever see a ghost in a mini sheet."

(Very little cut in this episode based on TV Land's version.)

Who does the voice of the ghost on the tape recorder - Marcia or Jan? I used to always think it was Jan, but watching the episode again, I'm now thinking it was Marcia. :confused:

It always sounded like Marcia to me.

MORE DVD SEASON 4 RESTORATIONS:

Jan, The Only Child: A slightly longer sequence of Alice and Carol preparing to make strawberry preserves for the hoe down. A longer square dance and potato sack race sequence.

Career Fever: A scene of Marcia helping Cindy who wants to be a model by balancing a book on her head. A scene of Bobby in Tiger's doghouse in an astronaught suit cuz he wants to be an astronaught. Another scene of Cindy talking to Greg in the den who doesn't want to draw anything because he doesn't want to hurt Mike's feelings by telling him he doesn't want to be an architect.

AND NOW THE BIGGEST RESTORATION OF THE BRADY BUNCH SEASON 4:

BOBBY AND CINDY WANT TO SWIM NAKED IN THE NEW NEIGHBOR'S POOL!!!

HERE IT IS:

Goodbye Alice Hello: A longer scene first of Peter and Greg trying to fix the broken lamp. TV Land cuts right after they put the lamp on the table and Greg says, "Great, no one will ever know it was broken." What happens next is Bobby knocks at the door, and Peter wonders, "Can we trust him?" Greg, says, "He won't squeal but he is too young." They decide to keep the door locked and put the lamp in the closet. Greg says to Peter, "Pretend like you're studying." Bobby comes in and is suspicious about them doing homework. He says he's looking for his football, than his helmet. Nervously they guard the closet, Greg gives him his football and Peter gives him his helmet. Greg says, "Have a good game."

Now the scene that we have waited to see for at least 25 years! (It's right after Marcia and Jan get upset about Alice squealing on Peter and Greg for breaking the lamp and Marcia tells her that because she left the record player on all night that she can't use the stereo for a whole week. Then Alice says, "No matter what I say nowdays, turns out to be something I shouldn't have said.")

HERE IT IS!!!!!
(This may still not be exact, but it is close)

Bobby and Cindy come downstairs:

Cindy: "We're ready to go Alice"

Cindy: "The new people on the corner invited us over to swim."

Alice: Good, find out if they've got a housekeeper, maybe they'll invite me over."

Alice: "Bobby, are you wearing your good trunks or the ones with all the holes in them?" (She opens his robe)

Alice: "Ahhhh! Your not wearing your bathing suit, your wearing your birthday suit! Who moved in down there, Adam and Eve?"

Bobby: "The Bellfields. Their father's 's a doctor."

Alice: "He must not have much of a practice if they can't afford bathing suits" Go upstairs and suit up."

Bobby: "They swim without clothes all the time over there!"

Cindy: "We can't were any if they don't were any."

Bobby: "And Dr. Bellfields says the sun has LOTS of vitamins!"

Alice: "Well, so does orange juice but you don't go swimming in it! upstairs!

Bobby: "But Alice, Why can't we go like this?"

Alice: "You are NOT going to swim in an X-rated swimming pool without your parent's permission. UPSTAIRS"!

Bobby: "But Alice?!!!"

Alice: "No buts, out, out out."

Alice: "Whew!!"

Jack

There it is, folks - the filthiest scene in the history of "The Brady Bunch"! (which isn't saying much, of course).

Wonder if Mike had a talk with Dr. Bellfields. :lol:

Wonder if Mike had a talk with Dr. Bellfields. :lol:

Who's Dr. Bellfields? :confused:

Who's Dr. Bellfields? :confused:

The neighbor that owned the swimming pool and had his friends and family swim naked in it!!!! (See the above description) It's the dialogue cut long ago from the "Goodbye Alice, Hello" episode, which Brady fans can now see on the Season 4 DVD!

Jack

Greg's Triangle: Slightly longer sequences with Carol trying to learn how to play golf, with Alice helping her by reading a Golf lessons book. Slightly longer sequence of beach shots when Greg and Jennifer go surfing. Mike asking what movie they are going to see when Greg brings her over later that night. Jennifer saying that she already saw the movie and Greg saying, "We'll see it again."

Everybody Can't Be George Washington: Several scenes of the family making props in the yard for the play. Cindy makes a yellow moon with a "Have a Nice Day" smile. (Great 70's logo!) The family trying to row a boat in sequence. Mike says, "Ahh the wave sank and the boat stayed afloat." Jan "modifying" the cherry tree prop that George Washington chops down. Bobby chops it, Half the tree falls and the other half still stands.

Love and the Older Man: A couple of longer dream sequences when Marcia is fantisizing about marrying Dr. Vogal, and at least one added scene of the boys working on the go-cart. (Very little cut compared to TV Land.....Except the fill in squares!!!)

Law and Disorder: A few more scenes of Bobby catching kids at school for breaking rules and writing citations on them. A scene with Cindy complaining to Alice about Bobby turning her in. A small line of Bobby saying that he has been guilty of chewing gum all term after Carol catches him reading his rules manual in bed.

Greg Gets Grounded: A few scenes of Peter and Bobby preparing their frogs in the backyard for the contest. A bit more dialogue of Greg complaining to Mike and Carol about having to take them to the Contest as they get ready for their dinner date. Alice getting spooked by Peter's frog, which is on TV Land but not in syndication.

Love and the Older Man: A couple of longer dream sequences when Marcia is fantisizing about marrying Dr. Vogal, and at least one added scene of the boys working on the go-cart. (Very little cut compared to TV Land.....Except the fill in squares!!!)

We finally get to see the dream sequence that has Bobby and Cindy as Marcia's children, dressed in old-style clothing, and Alice as the French housekeeper in the kitchen! I haven't seen this dream sequence in many years! When this episode airs on TV Land, are the fill-in squares shown at the end? I can't figure out why they are omitted on the DVD.

Amatur Night: A couple small scenes. Carol showing Jan her kneedlepoint before "Alfie" the silver platter guy calls. Mike tellling Carol they can't go out on a certain day for their anniversery because Mr. Phillips needs him to appear before an architecture planning commission for a new courthouse he helped design.

Bobby's Hero: (My favorite #1 episode tied with "Her Sister's Shadow.") A scene of Mike rehersing his " Use of Ancient Architecture in Modern Buildings" speech while the family is getting ready to eat dinner. He tries a joke that no one else thinks is funny. Bobby saying that he can't follow Wilt Chamerberlin for his hero cuz he has no chance of being 7 foot 2...and black! (Finally, no more PC TV Land cutting off the line after 7 foot 2!) The girls looking for Mike's speech in the trashcans. Bobby comes up to them as Jessie James, they tell him to "get lost." Bobby says, "OK. I'll just find a different bank to rob." (Then it goes to where all the cut prints pick up, Greg and Peter looking for Mike's speech in the foyer closet.)


The Subject Was Noses: An added scene of Marcia and Doug Simpson outside the house. Jan and Cindy playing checkers. A running line of Cindy always wanting to know why there would be conflict with Marcia trying to juggle two dates at the same time. Both Jan and Marcia say to Cindy, "You're too young to understand" at least twice. Not too much cut here compared to TV Land. Syndication greatly shortened the bedroom painting scenes.

The Subject Was Noses: An added scene of Marcia and Doug Simpson outside the house. Jan and Cindy playing checkers. A running line of Cindy always wanting to know why there would be conflict with Marcia trying to juggle two dates at the same time. Both Jan and Marcia say to Cindy, "You're too young to understand" at least twice. Not too much cut here compared to TV Land. Syndication greatly shortened the bedroom painting scenes.

Jack, I also seem to remember Peter saying to Marcia, "It's better to use your hands and not your head" or something similar. This was from a syndicated airing in the early 1990s.

Amatur Night: A couple small scenes. Carol showing Jan her kneedlepoint before "Alfie" the silver platter guy calls. Mike tellling Carol they can't go out on a certain day for their anniversery because Mr. Phillips needs him to appear before an architecture planning commission for a new courthouse he helped design.

With TV Land cutting out the scene in which "Alfie" calls to ask Jan why she hasn't been in to pick up and pay for the platter, it never made sense at the end of the episode when Carol mentioned "Alfie" when explaining how she found out about the platter. Therefore, I was glad to see the phone call from "Alfie" restored!

With TV Land cutting out the scene in which "Alfie" calls to ask Jan why she hasn't been in to pick up and pay for the platter, it never made sense at the end of the episode when Carol mentioned "Alfie" when explaining how she found out about the platter. Therefore, I was glad to see the phone call from "Alfie" restored!

Actually,

TV Land has the first phone call from "Alfie" the platter salesmen. Syndication and TBS (which used the same prints) always omitted that scene, which was removed during the syndication cycle of the mid 80's.

Jack

Jack, I also seem to remember Peter saying to Marcia, "It's better to use your hands and not your head" or something similar. This was from a syndicated airing in the early 1990s.

Yea,

That's sort of ringing a bell with me too. But than it seems out of place. The first thing Peter and Bobby ask is "Marcia! You OK? We're really sorry." It doesn't seem "Bradylike" that any of the kids would make a joke like that if one of their siblings got hurt, so maybe if it was there it was removed.

We need to start watching TV Land/Syndicate prints to see if we can spot these kinds of subtlties because now we have the DVD's to compare them to. In early March when Season 5 comes out, the set will be complete.

Trivia for "The Subject Was Noses: Barry said in Growing up Brady, that they didn't fake Marcia getting hit with the football. The propman hit her in the face with the football, they only had to do the scene once and Maureen recovered quickly.

Jack

How To Succeed In Business?: A scene with Bobby and Cindy in the backyard with all of their friends' bikes because they want Peter to get the total commission from fixing them instead of Mr. Martinelli. Peter says he would never do that to him. A couple more scenes of Peter in the park feeding the pidgeons. A scene of Peter encouraging Mike and Carol to buy bikes from him. A few small lines added when Peter is getting fired by Mr. Martinelli

The Great Earing Caper: A scene of Mike and Carol trying to decide whom they should dress up as for the costume party. A scene of Peter bugging Greg with his detective kit!!! (And some VERY FUNNY LINES that you can't hear anywhere else! Classic older brother younger brother stuff here! (But I am not giving away this scene here!! :lol: ) Criminal that all other versions cut this out!)

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OK, I'll include the stuff from the Great Earing Caper. Peter gets all excited about his detective kit. He looks at his pores through a magnifying glass and says something like, "Wow!!! I have big pores!" Greg's trying to read, and gets P.O at him, and Peter's looking under the bed and goes, "Hey there's a lot of stuff down here!" He crawls under the bed, messing around trying to find things, Greg says, "What are you doing!!!?? looking for your brain!???!" With Peter under the bed, Greg sits on it and jumps up and down on the matteress. The bed starts sagging and Peter yells.........."OWE!!!"

Jack

Your Never Too Old: (YUCK!!!!!! Could there be anything worse??? This is like combining the "Tiger/Fluffy slapstick scene from "The Honeymoon" episode, than adding Tank Gates, Skip Farnum, and Cousin Oliver to the mix!!!.) Sorry but I will NEVER watch this one! Someone else can do a DVD scene restoration for this episode. Even if I could, it wouldn't be accurate as I have seen this episode maybe twice in my life and would not be able to do any scene comparisons. This episode will make you HATE the "Play All" feature on your DVD! Avoid it.

Mike and Carol Brady dressed up as...........GRANDPARENTS!!!! OH THE HORROR!!! PLEASE WAKE ME FROM THIS NIGHTMARE!!!

Jack