Gingrich: "'GCB' Is Anti-Christian"
3/9/12


Republican presidential hopeful Newt Gingrich says a new ABC television series is evidence that the entertainment industry harbors anti-Christian bias.

Gingrich is criticizing the comedy-drama "GCB".

The series began airing last Sunday. ABC's website describes the series as a "funny, sassy and heartwarming drama."





The former House speaker says no network would run a show with such a title if the word "Muslim" were used in place of "Christian."

(He's referring to the show's original title, "Good Christian Bitches".)

Gingrich says anti-Christian bigotry is considered acceptable by the entertainment industry but Islam is protected.



Gingrich made the comments Friday at a rally in Gulfport, Miss.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/09/gingrich-says-new-abc-sho_0_n_1336193.html?ref=tv&ir=TV

Gingrich: "'GCB' Is Anti-Christian"
3/9/12
Republican presidential hopeful Newt Gingrich says a new ABC television series is evidence that the entertainment industry harbors anti-Christian bias.

I don't believe ABC is anti-christian. The network just needs to make money, and if GBC is making money for them, they are going to air it. If you are offended by the show, then just don't watch it. I don't watch it. I don't watch Jersey Shore either, but I've seen a few clips. Jersey Shore is ridiculous. Some say it portrays Italian-Americans in a very negative light, but I don't see any outcry of MTV being anti-Italian. I think the show totally sucks, but the fact is that it makes the network tons of money. They have every right to air it, and ABC has every right to air GCB.

I don't watch Jersey Shore either, but I've seen a few clips. Jersey Shore is ridiculous. Some say it portrays Italian-Americans in a very negative light, but I don't see any outcry of MTV being anti-Italian. That's a good point Steffy. Newt is just trying to push more of this "War on Christians" garbage. Personally, I find the show very funny. If anything, it is more a portrayel of hypocrites than Christians.

That's a good point Steffy. Newt is just trying to push more of this "War on Christians" garbage. Personally, I find the show very funny. .
Newt is always stirring up trouble and talking trash. Either that, or he's coming up with more ridiculous plots to form a development on the moon :lol:

If anything, it is more a portrayel of hypocrites than Christians
^ That sounds very interesting.

Of course there's a war on Christianity from the so-called mainstream culture.

Ever hear anyone from Hollywood or the LSM "news" shows talk about Rick Santorum and how dangerous he is?

Granted, Obama says he's a Christian and he's not been attacked that way, but the reason he's not attacked is that everyone knows he's not serious about his so-called Christianity.

And Gingerich is 100% correct about ABC's treatment of Christians vs Muslims. They'd never put a show on showing Muslims (hypocritical or otherwise) in a bad light, because of fear of a violent reaction.

Of course there's a war on Christianity from the so-called mainstream culture.

Ever hear anyone from Hollywood or the LSM "news" shows talk about Rick Santorum and how dangerous he is?

Granted, Obama says he's a Christian and he's not been attacked that way, but the reason he's not attacked is that everyone knows he's not serious about his so-called Christianity.

And Gingerich is 100% correct about ABC's treatment of Christians vs Muslims. They'd never put a show on showing Muslims (hypocritical or otherwise) in a bad light, because of fear of a violent reaction.


What does Obama have to do with GCB or Newts opinion about the show? If Newt does not agree with the show, then don't watch. There are a lot of things that I don't agree with on TV, and I choose not to watch it, I don't have a big hissy fit about it.

Of course there's a war on Christianity from the so-called mainstream culture.

Ever hear anyone from Hollywood or the LSM "news" shows talk about Rick Santorum and how dangerous he is?

Granted, Obama says he's a Christian and he's not been attacked that way, but the reason he's not attacked is that everyone knows he's not serious about his so-called Christianity.

And Gingerich is 100% correct about ABC's treatment of Christians vs Muslims. They'd never put a show on showing Muslims (hypocritical or otherwise) in a bad light, because of fear of a violent reaction.

True...America is pushing Christians out and soon the Christians will be fed to the Lions or exiled to Alaska...or both!

But ABC is pwned by Jews...from what I heard (And no...I'm NOT anti-semetic, I have a few Jewish friends)!

True...America is pushing Christians out and soon the Christians will be fed to the Lions or exiled to Alaska...or both!

Alaska is part of the United States...:lol:

Newt doesn't know what he is talking about. The show is not mocking Christianity, lol. It is a comedic take on people in Dallas. It's harmless. He should watch the show before he talks because the only uproar about the show was the B in the title not the C, lol! I saw the pilot and this week's episode that airs tonight at 10, so I have seen it.

What does Obama have to do with GCB or Newts opinion about the show? If Newt does not agree with the show, then don't watch. There are a lot of things that I don't agree with on TV, and I choose not to watch it, I don't have a big hissy fit about it.


I was pointing out that the Obamas are not a target of Hollywood and the Left's war on Christianity, simply because no one takes their self-proclaimed Christianity seriously. A real Christian could never get the nomination of the Democrat party.

Newt (or anyone else) has a perfect right to complain about a TV show. Or isn't this the United States of America any more?

Annie Potts Fires Back At Newt Gingrich For "GCB" 'Anti-Christian' Attack (VIDEO)
03/16/2012


"GCB" star Annie Potts is firing back at Newt Gingrich after the Republican presidential candidate criticized her new Texas dramedy for exemplifying what he described as "anti-Christian bigotry ... in the entertainment industry."

In an interview on "The View" Potts defended the show from Gingrich's jabs. "I don't know what all the fuss is about," she began.





When Joy Behar brought up Gingrich's criticisms of the show -- "the good Christian husband that he is" -- Potts had a few barbs of her own for the thrice-married former Speaker of the House.

"I did feel that it was especially rich coming from him, that he called our little TV show un-Christian when he was carrying on an affair while he was impeaching the president for doing the same. It's like, you know, look in the mirror honey, I think our show may be for you."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/16/annie-potts-newt-gingrich-gcb_n_1354337.html?

Alaska is part of the United States...:lol:

I know...

But Alaska is like the Siberia of the U.S., except on the south-east coast.

I just think GCB just looks stupid...and I'm a Christian as well!

Annie Potts Fires Back At Newt Gingrich For "GCB" 'Anti-Christian' Attack (VIDEO)
03/16/2012


"GCB" star Annie Potts is firing back at Newt Gingrich after the Republican presidential candidate criticized her new Texas dramedy for exemplifying what he described as "anti-Christian bigotry ... in the entertainment industry."

In an interview on "The View" Potts defended the show from Gingrich's jabs. "I don't know what all the fuss is about," she began.

When Joy Behar brought up Gingrich's criticisms of the show -- "the good Christian husband that he is" -- Potts had a few barbs of her own for the thrice-married former Speaker of the House.

"I did feel that it was especially rich coming from him, that he called our little TV show un-Christian when he was carrying on an affair while he was impeaching the president for doing the same. It's like, you know, look in the mirror honey, I think our show may be for you."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/16/annie-potts-newt-gingrich-gcb_n_1354337.html?

She is so right. Just watch the show sometime, and you'll see that Newt's past and present behavior exemplifies the behavior of the "Good Christian B*****s" on this show. LOL! This show isn't about mocking Christians, it's about exposing hypocrits. Newt fits that role perfectly.

"Kettle, meet Newt; Newt, meet kettle."

Clinton wasn't impeached for having an affair. Potts is an idiot

She didn't say Clinton was impeached.

MrCleveland: Being Christian doesn't have anything to do if you watch or like the show. It isn't about Christianity nor does it mock it.

She didn't say Clinton was impeached.

I did feel that it was especially rich coming from him, that he called our little TV show un-Christian when he was carrying on an affair while he was impeaching the president for doing the same.

Clinton was impeached. And Tweety, in a roundabout was, it was for cheating. It may not be the official reason, but it's basically why.

She didn't say Clinton was impeached. ...


Uh, yeah, she did...

"...When Joy Behar brought up Gingrich's criticisms of the show -- "the good Christian husband that he is" -- Potts had a few barbs of her own for the thrice-married former Speaker of the House.

"I did feel that it was especially rich coming from him, that he called our little TV show un-Christian when he was carrying on an affair while he was impeaching the president for doing the same. It's like, you know, look in the mirror honey, I think our show may be for you."



As I was saying, she's an idiot.

"...When Joy Behar brought up Gingrich's criticisms of the show -- "the good Christian husband that he is" -- Potts had a few barbs of her own for the thrice-married former Speaker of the House.

"I did feel that it was especially rich coming from him, that he called our little TV show un-Christian when he was carrying on an affair while he was impeaching the president for doing the same. It's like, you know, look in the mirror honey, I think our show may be for you."
Yes, Clinton was indeed impeached. All the while that hypocrite Newt Gingrich was messing with other women he was busy getting Clinton impeached. Newt is a hypocrite which is everything that GCB is about. It's not an attack on the religion of Christianity. It's an attack on hypocrites.



As I was saying, she's an idiot.
She's not an idiot. She is right on.

Yes...but Clinton got out of it like another impeached president...Andrew Johnson!

Thank you, Mr. Hypocrite.

Due to the fact that fatso hypocrite Newt has been drawing to GBC, I found myself compelled to check out this show. Before today, I just saw a few clips, however now I have seen the pilot on ABC.com and I plan on watching the other episodes. I think this show is very entertaining and funny. In NO way does this show attack Christianity. The show exposes HYPOCRITES that aren't unsimilar to Mr. Gingrich. Gingrich does not know what he is talking about when it comes to GCB. Once again, Newt has it ALL wrong.

In NO way does this show attack Christianity.The very name attacks it. Most Christians would not appreciate being called bitches. :rolleyes:

^^^ The women in that show ARE bitches who happen to be 'Christians.' Bitches are everywhere. They can be Jews, Buddhists, Muslims, Athiests, whatever.

The very name attacks it. Most Christians would not appreciate being called bitches. :rolleyes:

The show is called GCB. Doesn't stand for anything now. Not Belles or Bitches. If you watch Desperate Housewives, then you'll love this show. It's the same style but with more comedy.

Don't judge the book by its cover.

The show is called GCB. Doesn't stand for anything now. Not Belles or Bitches. If you watch Desperate Housewives, then you'll love this show. It's the same style but with more comedy.

Don't judge the book by its cover.

Really? Doesn't stand for anything? How'd they happen to come up with those three particular letters for the show's title, did they draw them out of a hat or what?

GCB doesn't stand for anything anymore: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G69BkoUCBl8 and http://www.vh1.com/video/misc/748739/leslie-bibb-talks-about-her-mob-wives-obsession.jhtml#id=1680903

What does it matter? You don't watch the show (nor have tried it like Newt) and you're judging a book by its cover just because someone who supposedly can't do anything wrong (Newt) who is against the show (of which he has never seen a second of).

GCB doesn't stand for anything anymore: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G69BkoUCBl8 and http://www.vh1.com/video/misc/748739/leslie-bibb-talks-about-her-mob-wives-obsession.jhtml#id=1680903

What does it matter? You don't watch the show...


True. Real men don't watch GCB OR Designing Women.

True. Real men don't watch GCB OR Designing Women.

Pulling the "Real Men Don't ______" card. How 1970's of you. This is 2012 Tweety, men can do whatever they want; for instance: not be enslaved by gender stereotypes like "real men" like you and Newt apparently are. ;)

^^^It's more like he's stuck in the 1950s

Pulling the "Real Men Don't ______" card. How 1970's of you. This is 2012 Tweety, men can do whatever they want; for instance: not be enslaved by gender stereotypes like "real men" like you and Newt apparently are. ;)

I have no idea whether or not Newt Gingerich watches Designing Women. But what I said was true even in the 1980s when the show first came on.

Truth is truth, doesn't matter what year it is. There are certain things that real men don't do. Like wearing Mom Jeans, for example...

GCB doesn't stand for anything anymore: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G69BkoUCBl8 and http://www.vh1.com/video/misc/748739/leslie-bibb-talks-about-her-mob-wives-obsession.jhtml#id=1680903

What does it matter? You don't watch the show (nor have tried it like Newt) and you're judging a book by its cover just because someone who supposedly can't do anything wrong (Newt) who is against the show (of which he has never seen a second of).

I'm quite sure I knew about this show before Newt did, and the fact that, for an ABC show, they had one of the actresses from that show go onto an ABC late-night show to say that GCB doesn't stand for anything doesn't prove anything.

So how did those three letters beat the 1-in-17,576 odds to become the letters for the title of the show?

I have no idea whether or not Newt Gingerich watches Designing Women. But what I said was true even in the 1980s when the show first came on.

Truth is truth, doesn't matter what year it is. There are certain things that real men don't do. Like wearing Mom Jeans, for example...

So, what is your definition of a "real man" and what does a "real man" watch? Sports? Wrestling perhaps? Two men rolling around on top of each other shirtless is pretty manly; I must say. Oh, mom jeans. Gotta love the way you can work Obama into nearly every post (related or not). Anyway, male or female, no one should be wearing mom jeans. LOL!

So, what is your definition of a "real man" and what does a "real man" watch? Sports? Wrestling perhaps? Two men rolling around on top of each other shirtless is pretty manly
Macho macho man! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Tweety is such a man's man

Macho macho man! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Tweety is such a man's man

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^^^ Tweety's theme song! :lol:

Tweety stop being childish. You can watch whatever you want, but you have no right to say what is for real men or not without actually watching the show yourself. And to say Obama is wearing "mom jeans" has nothing to do with this (or his politics). Be fair. Throwing a baseball is manly, isn't it? Or is baseball not manly now? I don't get why everything has to be so personal. Judging people or a show without knowing what they are about is not cool. That's what I hate about politicians...Newt is complaining about something that he knows nothing about and it is making him look like an idiot.

Newt is complaining about something that he knows nothing about and it is making him look like an idiot.
That isn't hard to do

No personal attacks.

Everett, who plays ranch foreman Booth Becker, also criticized Republican presidential hopeful Newt Gingrich, who previously accused GCB of "anti-Christian bigotry".

"For people who react that way, y'all don't even know what the show's about!" argued Everett. "People who take the time... to complain, it changes nothing.

Addressing Gingrich, he said: "I mean, you're running for office. I think there's bigger issues to deal with. And let's be honest, [the criticism] just helps the show's ratings."

True. Real men don't watch GCB OR Designing Women.

Pulling a Tim Allen there, aren't you? You know what I'm sayin'...

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But...I don't watch GCB because I have to work the next day and I go to bed at 10 p.m.

I just think GCB just looks stupid...and I'm a Christian as well!

I thought it sounded stupid just from reading the title and I'm a Christian as well. It's just not a show I'd be interested in, although I guess I should be glad that it's not another reality show!:rolleyes:

I think anybody, including Newt Gingrich, has the right to voice an opinion on anything they want. It's no big deal that he hasn't seen the show. It's getting enough publicity to give a feel for the type of show it is. Just look at youtube, and there are promos and trailers about most shows, including GCB. I think Newt's issue is with the title of the show, which considering the name of the book that it's based on, isn't a far stretch.

We do that here, talk about shows before they air. I think if Newt came out with an opinion that the show looks like it's going to be fantastic, those whose are telling him to put a sock in it now, would feel differently. Besides, this is America, a free country last time I checked. People can opine about anything they want.

I think anybody, including Newt Gingrich, has the right to voice an opinion on anything they want. It's no big deal that he hasn't seen the show. It's getting enough publicity to give a feel for the type of show it is. Just look at youtube, and there are promos and trailers about most shows, including GCB. I think Newt's issue is with the title of the show, which considering the name of the book that it's based on, isn't a far stretch.

We do that here, talk about shows before they air. I think if Newt came out with an opinion that the show looks like it's going to be fantastic, those whose are telling him to put a sock in it now, would feel differently. Besides, this is America, a free country last time I checked. People can opine about anything they want.

I'm not saying Newt can't voice his opinion, but when I wholeheartedly disagree with it, I'm certainly not going to stay silent. While we all have the freedom to voice our opinions, our opinions aren't free from criticism.

Actually, I'm kinda glad that Newt has been making such a big stink about this show, because he just draws more attention to it. His ridiculous hissy fit got me to check out the show, and I'm glad I did. I really like GBC. I think it's an entertaining show.

Thanks, Newt (Moon Man) ;)

I'm not saying Newt can't voice his opinion, but when I wholeheartedly disagree with it, I'm certainly not going to stay silent. While we all have the freedom to voice our opinions, our opinions aren't free from criticism.
If the shoe doesn't fit, then don't wear it. I'm referring to those who actually think Newt should zip it. I'm not asking anybody not to voice their opinions. On the contrary, I'm saying that everyone has a right to voice their opinion on anything, without personal attacks, like Potts and Joyless Bahar, in true liberal fashion, did when discussing Newt's opinion.

Tweety makes a tongue-in-cheek reference to what real men don't do. That one is as old as the hills. Real men do, real men don't. You were on him like a pit bull over the remark with your grossly personal posts to him (guess the shoe does fit), while it was starting to look like a 5th grade schoolyard around here with the "jokes" toward Tweety.

I'm not asking anybody to stay silent, just remain civil.

So, what is your definition of a "real man" and what does a "real man" watch? Sports? Wrestling perhaps? Two men rolling around on top of each other shirtless is pretty manly; I must say. Oh, mom jeans. Gotta love the way you can work Obama into nearly every post (related or not). Anyway, male or female, no one should be wearing mom jeans. LOL!
I can answer that! Since I have a book about real men. From 1982, not the '70s...

So, what is your definition of a "real man" and what does a "real man" watch? Sports? Wrestling perhaps? Two men rolling around on top of each other shirtless is pretty manly; I must say. Oh, mom jeans. Gotta love the way you can work Obama into nearly every post (related or not). Anyway, male or female, no one should be wearing mom jeans. LOL!


Sports, yes.

Wrestling, no.

Obama's an obvious example of what not to do if you're a man.

And you're right about mom jeans lol.

Tweety stop being childish. You can watch whatever you want, but you have no right to say what is for real men or not without actually watching the show yourself....

You're kidding? You mean all I have to do is sit through an episode and then I can say whatever I want about it with no complaints from you? Good to know, I'll keep that in mind.


...And to say Obama is wearing "mom jeans" has nothing to do with this (or his politics). Be fair....

I was just giving an example of what men don't do. If Bush 43 would have worn mom jeans, I'd say the same thing. Mom jeans are (or at least should be) a non-partisan issue.



... Throwing a baseball is manly, isn't it? ...

Not the way Obama does it, you ever see him?

I can answer that! Since I have a book about real men. From 1982, not the '70s...

lol, too funny! But they still snuck Pro Wrestling into their TV schedule..

lol, too funny! But they still snuck Pro Wrestling into their TV schedule..
Yeah, boxing should be there instead of Pro Wresting. Or karate!

Tweety makes a tongue-in-cheek reference to what real men don't do. That one is as old as the hills. Real men do, real men don't. You were on him like a pit bull over the remark with your grossly personal posts to him (guess the shoe does fit), while it was starting to look like a 5th grade schoolyard around here with the "jokes" toward Tweety.

I'm not asking anybody to stay silent, just remain civil.

The problem I have with the "real men don't ______" argument, is the fact that there are men AND women that aren't interested in things that are considered "manly" or "feminine" or there might be men and women that are interested in both. For years, men and women have been told: "if you do ____, if you say ______, if you watch ______, you're not a "real man" or you're not "feminine enough." Because of this, many men and women have been pressured into doing things that they really don't like for fear of not being considered a "real man" or "feminine." In general, our society puts too much emphasis on gender roles. People should be able to do whatever they want without the fear of being considered "un-manly" or "un-feminine." I don't buy into the absurdity of the "men do this," "women do this" stereotypes, but many do, unfortunately. It is those people that I feel for, because they are so afraid of being thought of a certain way that they living a lie and denying themselves the things that they really want in life.

^^^ I agree and I also found Tweety's comment about "real men" offensive. My friend who is a man watches a soap opera. Does that mean he's not a real man? And I watch baseball and basketball. So is that not feminine? According to Tweety, it's wrong for both of us? :rolleyes:

The perpetually offended. So very PC. *yawn* All it is is a take off on an old book, Real Men Don't Eat Quiche. People use the joke sometimes. No need to go into lecture mode over it. No that I read any of it.

The perpetually offended. So very PC. *yawn* All it is is a take off on an old book, Real Men Don't Eat Quiche. People use the joke sometimes. No need to go into lecture mode over it. No that I read any of it.
Real men don't use tampons. How's that for PC?

Ah, **** it. Like Judge Judy says "[knock, knock] that thick."

The perpetually offended. So very PC. *yawn* All it is is a take off on an old book, Real Men Don't Eat Quiche. People use the joke sometimes. No need to go into lecture mode over it. No that I read any of it.

It's one thing to be offended; it's another thing for an individual to live a life of self-loathing self-hatred because of an unrealistic mold that all men and women have been forced into for generations. No man or woman should have to go through this. But, of course, it's too PC; so let's just pretend everything is fine and just laugh it off as a harmless "joke". :rolleyes:

Real men don't use tampons. How's that for PC?
I don't know about PC, just a lousy joke maybe, lol.

It's one thing to be offended; it's another thing for an individual to live a life of self-loathing self-hatred because of an unrealistic mold that all men and women have been forced into for generations. No man or woman should have to go through this. But, of course, it's too PC; so let's just pretend everything is fine and just laugh it off as a harmless "joke". :rolleyes:For Heaven's sake, take a breath, will you. All worked up over, who knows what, for who knows why. It was a joke. Get a grip on yourself.

I don't know about PC, just a lousy joke maybe, lol.
But you defended Tweety's 'joke' about real men who don't watch primetime soaps. At least what I said is true. Real men don't use tampons for a menstrual cycle.

But you defended Tweety's 'joke' about real men who don't watch primetime soaps. At least what I said is true. Real men don't use tampons for a menstrual cycle.
I defended his joke because some were going in yip yap mode. You can joke all you want about men and tampons, but take my word on it, that it's a clunker.

I defended his joke because some were going in yip yap mode. You can joke all you want about men and tampons, but take my word on it, that it's a clunker.
But it's a true clunker. And since it's true, it actually isn't a joke. I know what you mean about yip yap...LOL...

For Heaven's sake, take a breath, will you. All worked up over, who knows what, for who knows why. It was a joke. Get a grip on yourself.

The individuals who are most affected by this "joke" are our youth. Teens inparticular who are already struggling with who they are as people shouldn't be objected to this joke. This joke (by peers, family, friends, and the media)" is just one of the contributing factors to the increased suicide rate among youth. Tweety may have just meant it as a joke, but many do not. Many use it to harass and degrade people that don't fit society's idea of what men and women should be. Today, it has gone far beyond a "joke." Yes, I am worked up and this is why.

Yes, I am worked up and this is why.
I don't blame you.

Tweety's 'real man' joke is as bad as a parent who says that 'real boys' don't play with dolls. It's mean, ignorant and very detrimental.

You know, this 'could' have been an interesting topic, regarding the differences in male/female tastes in television. I recall a study I read in college which partially explained the different psychological outlooks on 'life,' where men viewed life as individual blocks/situations, and women as long, intertwining threads. Hence, men preferred close-ended action-oriented tales involving a conquest of adversity, while women preferred open-ended, serialized formats emphasizing emotional bonds. Not that this was remotely some kind of uncrossable dividing-line, but there was a certain reality to it. It's not just some kind of arbitrary cultural peer pressure that led nighttime soap-operas to have a largely female-centric viewership and episodes of "Rat Patrol" to have a largely male-centric viewership.

And that's also another topic, in that television used to serve up a lot of 'guy' shows... "Sea Hunt," "Combat," "Mission: Impossible," "Have Gun Will Travel," etc. Slews of 'em. In addition, manliness used to be defined well beyond the tough-guy cliche to include examples of solid, stand-up, moral decency like one would find in Robert Young in "Father Knows Best," for example. Looking through network shows nowadays, I'm not terribly convinced there's much genuine manliness to be found anywhere, from what I see. Lots and lots of stunted man-child characters and metrosexual wimps. A pretty bleak landscape for guys who might want 'real guy' shows, or at very least, some male characters they could relate to. I guess all the Richard Boone's, Brian Keith's, and James Arness' have become relegated to dinosaur-level extinction.

^^^ Maybe they could rent some John Wayne pictures....or Rock Hudson?

The individuals who are most affected by this "joke" are our youth. Teens inparticular who are already struggling with who they are as people shouldn't be objected to this joke. This joke (by peers, family, friends, and the media)" is just one of the contributing factors to the increased suicide rate among youth. Tweety may have just meant it as a joke, but many do not. Many use it to harass and degrade people that don't fit society's idea of what men and women should be. Today, it has gone far beyond a "joke." Yes, I am worked up and this is why.

And yet, when certain groups of people are portrayed in a negative light or a certain way on popular TV shows, you don't seem to have a problem with that. "Heck, it's just a TV show, if you don't like it, don't watch it".

What percentage of TV fathers (or just adult male characters in general) are portrayed as either sexual predators or complete buffoons? Not just on sitcoms, but on all shows? How far back in TV history does one have to go to find a reasonable father figure, for example?

How are kids who plan on saving themselves for their future wife/husband portrayed on TV by Hollywood? You sure as heck wouldn't want to be one of them, would you? Not a cool thing to do, is it?

Charles Ingalls from Little House On the Prairie was a great dad on TV. But wait, this isn't 1875 anymore....different times.

And yet, when certain groups of people are portrayed in a negative light or a certain way on popular TV shows, you don't seem to have a problem with that. "Heck, it's just a TV show, if you don't like it, don't watch it".

I'm not talking about a TV show, I'm talking about life. I'm talking about how actual people treat individuals that don't fit society's stereotypical male-female roles. But you're right, TV shows have portrayed men and women in a certain light and over time, people have come to believe that if you're a women you don't love cooking, scrapbooking, and chick flicks or if you're a man and you don't love sports, hunting, and tools, there's something wrong with you. That type of generalizing leads to low self-esteem and even self-hatred for individuals that don't fit society's male-female roles.

What percentage of TV fathers (or just adult male characters in general) are portrayed as either sexual predators or complete buffoons? Not just on sitcoms, but on all shows? How far back in TV history does one have to go to find a reasonable father figure, for example?

Depends on your definition of "reasonable." But, IMO, a good dad is one that lets his children be who they want to be and do what they want to do and doesn't place unrealistic expectations on how they should act or what they should do. For example: telling a girl she can't play with a truck because "that's for boys" or telling a boy he can't play with a dollhouse because "that's for girls."

How are kids who plan on saving themselves for their future wife/husband portrayed on TV by Hollywood? You sure as heck wouldn't want to be one of them, would you? Not a cool thing to do, is it?

This isn't really related to my point on gender stereotyping, but yes, they are portrayed in a negative light and it certainly doesn't help improve their self-worth or self-esteem.

I don't blame you.

Tweety's 'real man' joke is as bad as a parent who says that 'real boys' don't play with dolls. It's mean, ignorant and very detrimental.

Thanks for seeing my point. :)

I just hate it now that men are considered stupid like, "Hey, drrr...does this baby need batteries"? (I see this in commercials all the time)!

Another "Real Man" Celebrity would be Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin. Sure they had bad-boy roles, but they too had soft spots...especially Sinatra, he was in musicals!

Annie Potts Criticizes Newt Gingrich for Calling Show Anti-Christian
03/22/2012


Annie Potts is back on TV, playing a wealthy Texas socialite who loves clothes and Jesus on the new series "GCB". And although the show has only been on for a couple of weeks, it has already caused quite a controversy among several conservative groups, while former House Speaker Newt Gingrich has called the show anti-Christian.

"Well, you know those conservatives don't like women very much," Annie told me on the set of "New York Live".

“No they don’t. They want to take away our contraceptives and get rid of Planned Parenthood -- next we will lose the right to vote ... For Mr. Gingrich to say our show is anti-Christian, I can assure you that is the furthest thing from our creator's intention."





Annie, who isn’t afraid to talk politics, says she worships MSNBC's Rachel Maddow and insists "GCB" is very American, asking, "what other country in the whole world could do a show like this? Americans are great because we can laugh at ourselves."



That's why she thinks Gingrich should tune in.

"I think he ought to watch it," Annie said. "I think he has something to learn there."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/22/annie-potts-gcb-christian_n_1373036.html?

I think anybody, including Newt Gingrich, has the right to voice an opinion on anything they want. It's no big deal that he hasn't seen the show. It's getting enough publicity to give a feel for the type of show it is. Just look at youtube, and there are promos and trailers about most shows, including GCB. I think Newt's issue is with the title of the show, which considering the name of the book that it's based on, isn't a far stretch.

Sure he can have an opinion, but he should at least watch the show if he wants to publicly bash the show. The show is not anti-Christian and the promos/clips don't even make it seem that way. That makes no sense at all for him to say it is anti-Christian. A campy show like this is taken seriously by Newt Gingrich? And the title of the show is simply GCB. There is NO mention on the show or in the actual credits of "Good Christian Bitches (or Belles)"

I've had enough of politicians and religious leaders meddling with TV shows they have never watched a second of. Take that Reverend Wildmon in the '70s attacking shows like Three's Company, Dallas, Charlie's Angels and Soap for being sexpots. He never watched an episode of those shows but from what he "heard" he made comments telling people to avoid those shows.

Just my two cents.

Sure he can have an opinion, but he should at least watch the show if he wants to publicly bash the show. The show is not anti-Christian and the promos/clips don't even make it seem that way. That makes no sense at all for him to say it is anti-Christian. A campy show like this is taken seriously by Newt Gingrich? And the title of the show is simply GCB. There is NO mention on the show or in the actual credits of "Good Christian Bitches (or Belles)"
Again, there are a lot of promos and clips on youtube, etc. Newt was probably told that the show is based on a book called Good Christian Bitches. It's not hard to figure what GCB means once you know that. What does GCB mean? I haven't seen the show, but I've seen a lot of it, on talk shows and various clips. I get the show's message. People can have an opinion of a show without seeing it.

Again, there are a lot of promos and clips on youtube, etc. Newt was probably told that the show is based on a book called Good Christian Bitches. It's not hard to figure what GCB means once you know that. What does GCB mean? I haven't seen the show, but I've seen a lot of it, on talk shows and various clips. I get the show's message. People can have an opinion of a show without seeing it.

GCB doesn't stand for anything anymore. I don't think it is fair to criticize something (or in this case, totally misunderstand) you haven't seen (I never do that) especially since this is a job for the cast and crew of the show. I mean his job is in politics, not a TV critic. At least the critics watch something they comment on.

And the title of the show is simply GCB. There is NO mention on the show or in the actual credits of "Good Christian Bitches (or Belles)"Come on, we all know the GCB stands for Good Christian bitches. That was the original title of the show and it's the title of the book the show is based on.

Come on, we all know the GCB stands for Good Christian bitches. That was the original title of the show and it's the title of the book the show is based on.

Well it isn't anymore since people would knock it right there without seeing a second of it. But they don't care about all the swearing and "real" sex on the premium cable shows these days, not that I care about that. I know you are a fan of Desperate Housewives, catsrule. The show is very similar to that show, but really campy.

I know you are a fan of Desperate Housewives, catsrule. The show is very similar to that show, but really campy.
The show is VERY similar to Desperate Houswives. I think this GCB show may even be better. :)

The show is VERY similar to Desperate Houswives. I think this GCB show may even be better. :)

I don't know about it being better, but I like it.

I don't know about it being better, but I like it.
All in all, I love Desperate Houswives much more than GCB, but now with this final season I am enjoying GCB a lot more. DH really stinks this season IMO with the ridiculous cover-up/death story about Gaby's stepfather. I haven't liked the show at all since this started. That's why I say GCB may be better now.

I know you are a fan of Desperate Housewives, catsrule.not anymore, I dropped DH two years ago.

I'm not knocking the show at all (I don't have a dog in this fight one way or the other), but it is based on a book called Good Christian Bitches, and that was the working title of the show. I'm no fan of Newt Gingrich, but let's call a duck a duck. Saying "GCB" doesn't stand for "Good Christian Bitches" anymore is like pointing out that "AOL" no longer stands for "America Online," or that "CBS" isn't officially the "Columbia Broadcasting System" anymore.

A company, showrunner or network can decide to rebrand a proper noun abbreviation so that it no longer "officially" stands for something, but that doesn't mean the original meaning is forever lost. In this case, ABC and the creators of GCB didn't just choose those three letters out of a hat; they got it from a book. A book called Good Christian Bitches.

That said, I think Speaker Gingrich can find more pressing things to talk about than a silly television show.

That said, I think Speaker Gingrich can find more pressing things to talk about than a silly television show.
Maybe he should come up with some more plans for his housing developments on the moon.

After looking at the article, Newt was only complaining about the show's title. You don't have to watch a show for that. This isn't a just a case of him talking about a silly talk show. The title of the show is controversial, so Newt weighed in. He has just as much right to do so as we do. He's a private citizen now, and even if he was a politician, he would still have a right to take a few minutes out and make a statement. Whatever happened to freedom of speech?

After looking at the article, Newt was only complaining about the show's title. You don't have to watch a show for that. This isn't a just a case of him talking about a silly talk show. The title of the show is controversial, so Newt weighed in. He has just as much right to do so as we do. He's a private citizen now, and even if he was a politician, he would still have a right to take a few minutes out and make a statement. Whatever happened to freedom of speech?

That's how I feel, if you object to anything...people will call you a bigot!

"Freedom of Speech" is going away!

I'm not knocking the show at all (I don't have a dog in this fight one way or the other), but it is based on a book called Good Christian Bitches, and that was the working title of the show. I'm no fan of Newt Gingrich, but let's call a duck a duck. Saying "GCB" doesn't stand for "Good Christian Bitches" anymore is like pointing out that "AOL" no longer stands for "America Online," or that "CBS" isn't officially the "Columbia Broadcasting System" anymore.

A company, showrunner or network can decide to rebrand a proper noun abbreviation so that it no longer "officially" stands for something, but that doesn't mean the original meaning is forever lost. In this case, ABC and the creators of GCB didn't just choose those three letters out of a hat; they got it from a book. A book called Good Christian Bitches....

Exactly.

Over the years, there have been other attempts to get away from the true meaning of something by saying (or pretending) that the letters really don't stand for anything...

KFC - used to stand for Kentucky Fried Chicken, now it's just KFC, and they refuse to acknowledge the actual meaning.

MMC - I'm sure the kids on that show in the 90s didn't want to be associated with something called "The Mickey Mouse Club", so they changed the name to MMC, hoping no one would notice.

Nobody but nobody but nobody will deny me my freedom of speech...and when you say something I perceive to be idiotic I will exercise my freedom of speech to call you out on your idiocy. As ever it should be. What is so hard to understand about that? Seems like a lot of the bleating about freedom of speech is really just about shutting down criticism.

Not from me I'll tell ya....

Seems like a lot of the bleating about freedom of speech is really just about shutting down criticism.
You got this right. A lot of people got upset because Newt had the audacity to express his opinion on the title of a show, some going as far as saying he has no right to express his opinion because he's a politician (which he is not), or because he should have other things to do besides talk about a silly show. People can do a few things at once.

Fact is there was a controversy here. Enough that Kraft pulled their advertising. That "Good Christian Bitches" sticks in some minds, I guess. People can have an opinion on Newt's opinion, yet saying he should zip it is just wrong. Everyone has a right to express their opinion, as long as it's done in a respectful manner.

You got this right. A lot of people got upset because Newt had the audacity to express his opinion on the title of a show, some going as far as saying he has no right to express his opinion because he's a politician (which he is not), or because he should have other things to do besides talk about a silly show. People can do a few things at once.

Fact is there was a controversy here. Enough that Kraft pulled their advertising. That "Good Christian Bitches" sticks in some minds, I guess. People can have an opinion on Newt's opinion, yet saying he should zip it is just wrong. Everyone has a right to express their opinion, as long as it's done in a respectful manner.

I agree too, Janice. Everyone is free to express their opinion regardless of their occupation. Also, just because a person isn't liked by some people doesn't mean their opinion is worthless.

I just LOVE your kitty, Jenny. He just looks a little lonely. Let's just say that his brothers and sisters are there with him (or her). :)

I just LOVE your kitty, Jenny. He just looks a little lonely. Let's just say that his brothers and sisters are there with him (or her). :)

He probably was last to get to the food bowl. :lol: His little eyes. aww.

Annie Potts Criticizes Newt Gingrich for Calling Show Anti-Christian
03/22/2012
... "Well, you know those conservatives don't like women very much," Annie told me on the set of "New York Live".

“No they don’t. They want to take away our contraceptives and get rid of Planned Parenthood -- next we will lose the right to vote ... .."


This woman is WAY too stupid for words.






... Annie, who isn’t afraid to talk politics, says she worships MSNBC's Rachel Maddow...

Like I said...

All the controversy didn't help it at all. GCB joins the many shows that were cancelled after one season (a well deserved cancellation!)

and Newt Gingrich has since dropped out of the race.

I don't believe ABC is anti-christian. The network just needs to make money, and if GBC is making money for them, they are going to air it. If you are offended by the show, then just don't watch it. I don't watch it. I don't watch Jersey Shore either, but I've seen a few clips. Jersey Shore is ridiculous. Some say it portrays Italian-Americans in a very negative light, but I don't see any outcry of MTV being anti-Italian. I think the show totally sucks, but the fact is that it makes the network tons of money. They have every right to air it, and ABC has every right to air GCB.


But here's the difference, Steffy. The producers who made that show ARE anti-Christian because they go out of their way to get their little "digs" in wherever they can, and it's plain and obvious. And you know what? These types of shows don't sell, because people get tired of it. But does that stop them? No. They go out of their way to push their antichristian prejudices (be it slowly and subtley) in their shows. And when they fail, they come back with another, do the same thing again, and when it fails, they come back with another and do the same thing again. But do I watch it? No. Do most people watch it? No, unless the show is good enough to overshadow the digs. But with today's mediocre writing, and quality of programming, it shows that television only gets what the big shots like. And it's becoming harder and harder for the big shots to get the audience it needs to keep a show successful and popular today.