Jackee

Relations between Marla Gibbs and Jackie Harry were rather tense by the fourth season of 227, mainly because Jackee’s character, Sandra, had become the breakout star of the series. Harry filmed a pilot which aired in 1989 in which Sandra moved to New York to accept a job at a film studio. When it turned out that the studio in question made adult films, she instead took a job at a spa. The pilot had a plum slot right after The Cosby Show and finished fifth in the ratings, but NBC still declined to pick it up.

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I read that Jackee was grateful that the show did not get picked up. I know that some did not like the show after Jackee left but the show was till good to me. You still had a lot of good characters to work with and were funny. I taped the pilot ep when it aired but threw it out. LOL. Oops! However, retrieved another ep by someone (who will remain nameless. LOL.) The show was ok. I wanted to see how Sandra would adapt weekly out of her 22 environment.

Mostly all actors are happy when they don't get a spinoff for some reason. Charlotte Rae of Diff'rent Strokes didn't want one and neither did The Ropers. It just baffles me that if the show was a top 10 rating, why scrap it? I know it was cushioned with the Cosby Show, but still, it just does not make any sense to me.

I'm wondering if NBC lacked faith that show would have made it. If it had made it, it would have had the "Flo" syndrome. Iconic character has issues with the lead and moves off to her own piece and out of the hair of the lead. I loved Marla and I thought she seemed reasonable, though.

Jackee

Relations between Marla Gibbs and Jackie Harry were rather tense by the fourth season of 227, mainly because Jackee’s character, Sandra, had become the breakout star of the series. Harry filmed a pilot which aired in 1989 in which Sandra moved to New York to accept a job at a film studio. When it turned out that the studio in question made adult films, she instead took a job at a spa. The pilot had a plum slot right after The Cosby Show and finished fifth in the ratings, but NBC still declined to pick it up.

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The ratings for Jackee was irrelevant since NBC only aired one episode-lol The person acted like Jackee was aired for 6 weeks. By the way I have the first NBC episode on tape somewhere because I recieved a copy from someone lol

The ratings for Jackee was irrelevant since NBC only aired one episode-lol The person acted like Jackee was aired for 6 weeks. By the way I have the first NBC episode on tape somewhere because I recieved a copy from someone lol


Granted Sol, it was one episode, but it did really well. Why not continue with the project then?

Granted Sol, it was one episode, but it did really well. Why not continue with the project then?

I know. However, for some reason, NBC said no. It was a blessing for Jackee, though.

I know. However, for some reason, NBC said no. It was a blessing for Jackee, though.


Perhaps, but who knows what might have been. I guess I see your point though, because if Jackee was a hit, then she probably would have been type cast as the Sandra character forever. lol

Granted Sol, it was one episode, but it did really well. Why not continue with the project then?


Maybe because they didn't want to take a chance on 227 falling in the ratings?

Maybe because they didn't want to take a chance on 227 falling in the ratings?


I see what you are saying, but that would mean that NBC thought very highly of Jackee and the Sandra character. So, it still doesn't make that much sense. A tv mystery indeed. lol

I see what you are saying, but that would mean that NBC thought very highly of Jackee and the Sandra character. So, it still doesn't make that much sense. A tv mystery indeed. lol


You know how DULL 227 would have been without Sandra?-lol

You know how DULL 227 would have been without Sandra?-lol


There were Sandra-less episodes of 227 weren't there?

There were Sandra-less episodes of 227 weren't there?


I just saw that the following season of 227 was the last so yeah it was ODD that they didn't spinoff Jackee.

I just saw that the following season of 227 was the last so yeah it was ODD that they didn't spinoff Jackee.


Exactly my point! So very odd. A TV Mystery!

Exactly my point! So very odd. A TV Mystery!


Just saw that Sandra was not seen that much in season 5 at all, so I can see that season of 227 was unwatchable

Just saw that Sandra was not seen that much in season 5 at all, so I can see that season of 227 was unwatchable


I am guessing because there was friction between Jackee Harry and Marla Gibbs.

Yea Jackee was billed as a special guest star during the last season. The show had JTS by that point.

Yea Jackee was billed as a special guest star during the last season. The show had JTS by that point.


Really??? I had no idea they did that to her?

Really??? I had no idea they did that to her?
Yea. She was in the opening credits but only on the shows that she was in. NBC moved the show off Saturday halfway through the final year. I still haven't seen the last episode and I watched it almost to the end. lol

Yea. She was in the opening credits but only on the shows that she was in. NBC moved the show off Saturday halfway through the final year. I still haven't seen the last episode and I watched it almost to the end. lol


GMC is airing season 4 now so you will get your opportunity sometime in March-lol

Just saw that Sandra was not seen that much in season 5 at all, so I can see that season of 227 was unwatchable

People say that but I disagree as this season is my second favorite. I loved the characters in this season. I'm disappointed that Jackee was not in the show all the way through but it was still a good season overall.

Yea. She was in the opening credits but only on the shows that she was in. NBC moved the show off Saturday halfway through the final year. I still haven't seen the last episode and I watched it almost to the end. lol


Last episode had Phyllis Diller sharing a hospital room with Mary. LOL. The show did return to Saturday to air off the last several episodes. And this is Jackee's billing and profile shot.

Last episode had Phyllis Diller sharing a hospital room with Mary. LOL. The show did return to Saturday to air off the last several episodes. And this is Jackee's billing and profile shot.


Oh ****-lol I just saw that episode and they brought the graduation to Mary's hospital room since she couldn't make and then at the end they showed Phyllis Diller. I had no idea that was the last episode-lol I just watched it last saturday on GMC

Oh ****-lol I just saw that episode and they brought the graduation to Mary's hospital room since she couldn't make and then at the end they showed Phyllis Diller. I had no idea that was the last episode-lol I just watched it last saturday on GMC

Yep. The one thing that his show did was bring in some noteable guests. I liked that the fact that they used Phyllis Diller.

Patient: OMG! They made me look like Phyllis Diller!!!!! :eek:
Mary: Child, I'd sue the hospital for that mistake!

Yep. The one thing that his show did was bring in some noteable guests. I liked that the fact that they used Phyllis Diller.

Patient: OMG! They made me look like Phyllis Diller!!!!! :eek:
Mary: Child, I'd sue the hospital for that mistake!


It didn't seem like a FINALE but I guess they had no idea they would be cancelled. I just thought it was a regular episode

It didn't seem like a FINALE but I guess they had no idea they would be cancelled. I just thought it was a regular episode


The higher ups and Marla mutully agreed that it was time to end the show. They had enough eps to run it in syndication and decided to end it there. In the fall of 1990, BET's "Screen Scene" reported that there was a rumor either 227 or Amen would be returning. It turns out that Amen was the show scheduled to return.

The higher ups and Marla mutully agreed that it was time to end the show. They had enough eps to run it in syndication and decided to end it there. In the fall of 1990, BET's "Screen Scene" reported that there was a rumor either 227 or Amen would be returning. It turns out that Amen was the show scheduled to return.


She decided to end the show? I think NBC decided to end the show since it finished below 30# LOL


I would only buy that it was her decision if the show was #13.

She decided to end the show? I think NBC decided to end the show since it finished below 30# LOL


I would only buy that it was her decision if the show was #13.


Like I said, it was a mutual choice.

Marla Gibbs: "I think it's time to end the show"

NBC President: "We already decided to end the show because the ratings are not good, AT ALL'


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Marla Gibbs: "I think it's time to end the show"

NBC President: "We already decided to end the show because the ratings are not good, AT ALL'


:lol:


Like I said, it was mutual.

Like I said, it was mutual.


Is there a source confirming this?

Is there a source confirming this?

I read it from a website whose name I can't remember and the rumor about 227 or Amen comes from a "Screen Scene" episode which I actully have in archive.

the pilot lost a big chunk of the Cosby lead-in. That, and negative reaction probably kept NBC from picking it up as a series.

the pilot lost a big chunk of the Cosby lead-in. That, and negative reaction probably kept NBC from picking it up as a series.


Seems like it would have made more sense to air it after 227. Why the hell did NBC air it after the Cosby Show? That was dumb

the pilot lost a big chunk of the Cosby lead-in. That, and negative reaction probably kept NBC from picking it up as a series.


Did the pilot ever air alone? I thought that it was just an episode of 227.

Did the pilot ever air alone? I thought that it was just an episode of 227.


Yes it aired seperately on May 11, 1989 on a Thursday Night after the Cosby Show at 8:30pm

Yes it aired seperately on May 11, 1989 on a Thursday Night after the Cosby Show at 8:30pm

I read somewhere that it was a failed pilot so I always assumed that it never aired by it's self.

I read somewhere that it was a failed pilot so I always assumed that it never aired by it's self.


The setup episode was aired on that date

The setup episode was aired on that date


Is it the same episode that airs with 227 episodes?

Is it the same episode that airs with 227 episodes?


Yes but it doesn't look like a 227 episode because it has Jackee Opening Credits and you see Manhattan as it's coming on

Yes but it doesn't look like a 227 episode because it has Jackee Opening Credits and you see Manhattan as it's coming on


That should be online some place.

That should be online some place.


The episode is on youtube but not the NBC version only the syndicated version with the 227 opening credits

The episode is on youtube but not the NBC version only the syndicated version with the 227 opening credits

I have seen the 227 version over and over. I want to see the original opening credits.

I have seen the 227 version over and over. I want to see the original opening credits.

I had the NBC ep for 2 years and gave it away to someone on this board back in March because i retired from tape trading

I had the NBC ep for 2 years and gave it away to someone on this board back in March because i retired from tape trading

You should have put it up on Youtube :lol: the only thing that I can find is the promo.

You should have put it up on Youtube :lol: the only thing that I can find is the promo.


I tried but I don't know how to do it

I tried but I don't know how to do it


It's easier now with the new VLC player, you just press the Record button and press Stop where you want it to stop.

I had the NBC ep for 2 years and gave it away to someone on this board back in March because i retired from tape trading


Now, I got an issue. What do you mean you gave up trading? Does that mean you gave away all those classic shows W/O/C? Am I gonna have to hire a hitman or lawyer, bruh? :lol:

Now, I got an issue. What do you mean you gave up trading? Does that mean you gave away all those classic shows W/O/C? Am I gonna have to hire a hitman or lawyer, bruh? :lol:


No what started happening was certain guys started sharing all the RARE SHOWS and trading became boring. You know that GEM you sent me with You Take the Kids, I always held on to that and never shared it with no one unless someone could offer something really rare like that was

I;m a part-time trader now

No what started happening was certain guys started sharing all the RARE SHOWS and trading became boring. You know that GEM you sent me with You Take the Kids, I always held on to that and never shared it with no one unless someone could offer something really rare like that was

I;m a part-time trader now


I remember your quote" "You take the kids is OUR show". LOL. I had the 1st ep but its lost in my tape archive. The first ep was recorded on film instead of videotape.

I remember your quote" "You take the kids is OUR show". LOL. I had the 1st ep but its lost in my tape archive. The first ep was recorded on film instead of videotape.


Yeah I wasn't going to retire until I got CHECKING IN but I got tired of waiting.


Now these are the biggest things I want for Christmas

1. Jeffersons...."A Friend in Need" on CBS all commercials--1/18/75

2. Three's Company...."Ralph's Rival........"12/4/79"....on ABC..all commercials

I just saw TVONE's Life After featuring Marla Gibbs (was surprised to learn her real name is Margaret), she stated briefly the show was supposed to return for a 6th season and then they started talking about her theatre in South Central LA. The video is available on TVOne's website at www.tvoneonline.com under Life After.

I've heard the rumors of 1990 where NBC was only going to bring back one black show between Amen and 227. The last season of Amen felt thrown together, so I guess they were surprised to be coming back.

Admittedly, I felt bringing on Countess Vaughn as Alexandria was the beginning of the end of the show for me. I just get turned off by 'nerdy, overly smart kids' on TV. We all know when kids are added, it means the show is running out of steam.

Jackee had a Life After had talked very little about the show, they discussed Sister, Sister more than 227 surprisingly.

TVOne supposedly used to air the 'Jackee' episode un-edited. I remember on tv.com a member discussing how they were surprised to see this episode in that form.

I finally saw the pilot of Jackee and was not impressed with it to be honest. She belonged on 227 and it was sad about the rift between her and Marla. It hurt both of their careers for a few years. Jackee stated that she had a hard time finding constant work after final few episodes on 227. In an interview with Ebony, she stated she filmed several pilots but none were ever picked up. She almost didn' take the role on Sister, Sister as she felt she was not to play a mother.

Exactly my point! So very odd. A TV Mystery!

You think it could have anything to do with racism?

I just saw TVONE's Life After featuring Marla Gibbs (was surprised to learn her real name is Margaret), she stated briefly the show was supposed to return for a 6th season and then they started talking about her theatre in South Central LA. The video is available on TVOne's website at www.tvoneonline.com under Life After.

I've heard the rumors of 1990 where NBC was only going to bring back one black show between Amen and 227. The last season of Amen felt thrown together, so I guess they were surprised to be coming back.



You may be right about Amen being "Thrown together" as it seems so different from the other seasons as far as the storylines and transition beats go.

I too remember hearing those rumors about one of those shows. I heard it on BET's now defunct show "Screen Scene" from 1990. I was kind of hoping that it was 227 that was coming back. It was AMEN that came back and I was actually cool with the changes. I knew Barbara Montgomery could not come back because she had taken the role on ABC's "Married People". Amelia and Thelma became best friends around this time which I think was great. I was disappointed that AMEN didn't come back for a season six but it was all good.

I just saw TVONE's Life After featuring Marla Gibbs (was surprised to learn her real name is Margaret), she stated briefly the show was supposed to return for a 6th season and then they started talking about her theatre in South Central LA. The video is available on TVOne's website at www.tvoneonline.com under Life After.

I've heard the rumors of 1990 where NBC was only going to bring back one black show between Amen and 227. The last season of Amen felt thrown together, so I guess they were surprised to be coming back.

Admittedly, I felt bringing on Countess Vaughn as Alexandria was the beginning of the end of the show for me. I just get turned off by 'nerdy, overly smart kids' on TV. We all know when kids are added, it means the show is running out of steam.

Jackee had a Life After had talked very little about the show, they discussed Sister, Sister more than 227 surprisingly.


I wanted to see that Life AFter with marla gibbs but it came on a Monday Night.

I wanted to see that Life AFter with marla gibbs but it came on a Monday Night.


It may air this afternoon on TV ONE at either 4pm or 4:30pm possibly.

It may air this afternoon on TV ONE at either 4pm or 4:30pm possibly.


Today is NFL from 1pm to 1am

I wanted to see that Life AFter with marla gibbs but it came on a Monday Night.

I saw it and it was very good. She was married with 3 or 4 kids before age 20!

She's the only main cast member left alive from The Jeffersons!

You may be right about Amen being "Thrown together" as it seems so different from the other seasons as far as the storylines and transition beats go.

I too remember hearing those rumors about one of those shows. I heard it on BET's now defunct show "Screen Scene" from 1990. I was kind of hoping that it was 227 that was coming back. It was AMEN that came back and I was actually cool with the changes. I knew Barbara Montgomery could not come back because she had taken the role on ABC's "Married People". Amelia and Thelma became best friends around this time which I think was great. I was disappointed that AMEN didn't come back for a season six but it was all good.

I remember that show as well. I was hoping for 227 as well too. I also heard that Marla was ready to move on from TV as well from other sources from that year. At least the series ended with Brenda's graduation from high school. I remember when TV.com was tvtome.com and I joined in with several fans when we made up our own season six of the show. We even had an in-depth conversation back in 2004 about why the show went downhill.

Today is NFL from 1pm to 1am

You can catch it ON DEMAND 24/7 on TVOne's website.

You can catch it ON DEMAND 24/7 on TVOne's website.



Life After is not on Demand, I already checked 3 days ago,

Life After is not on Demand, I already checked 3 days ago,

I will find the link. I watched the Marla Gibbs' edition on their website last night. It came up in the player after I watched the clips from Ernest Thomas and Bern Nadette Stanis.

I will find the link. I watched the Marla Gibbs' edition on their website last night. It came up in the player after I watched the clips from Ernest Thomas and Bern Nadette Stanis.


I will have to catch it on TV because if I watch it on the site it will take away my web browsing

I was happy to see that Encore aired the Jackee spinoff uncut and with the Jackee Title and theme song. The other times I saw Jackee it had the 227 theme and title.

I was happy to see that Encore aired the Jackee spinoff uncut and with the Jackee Title and theme song. The other times I saw Jackee it had the 227 theme and title.


Did you see Pearl's surprise appearance at the end?

Yes it was there.

I was happy to see that Encore aired the Jackee spinoff uncut and with the Jackee Title and theme song. The other times I saw Jackee it had the 227 theme and title.

WHAT?!? I record 227 on Encore, but it didn't record the Jackee spinoff! I wonder if that's because it was listed as "Jackee" and not "227"?? Grrrrrrr!! :mad: I wanna see the Jackee main titles!!

Oh wow that sucks they showed it on May 7th. I can send it to you or upload it somewhere are something if you want.

Oh wow that sucks they showed it on May 7th. I can send it to you or upload it somewhere are something if you want.

Ah, just now saw this...thanks for that, but actually my DVR recorded it this time around, and I got to finally see the original main titles the other night :)

They weren't any great shakes, lol, but it was so cool to get to actually see them.

WHAT?!? I record 227 on Encore, but it didn't record the Jackee spinoff! I wonder if that's because it was listed as "Jackee" and not "227"?? Grrrrrrr!! :mad: I wanna see the Jackee main titles!!

Both versions where 227's theme and ending credits were tossed on it and the original 1989 edition are on youtube. The theme song the had the 'living la vida loca' beat to it. Quite catchy and very 80's

When TVOne had the rights to the show, it aired the original 1980's version of the spin-off and it did throw off many people as they thought it was some other show they forgot about. I had to remind people this aired as a special Thursday night edition of 227 in 1989 and most syndication packages just tossed it in there with edited openings. A few outlets aired this unedited not many but they did

2004, when TV one was actually the sh*T:wave:

Btw, Logo(?) just aired the series finale didnt they? I missed it. Didnt know about Jackee having her own theme song and credits to her pilot. I think when it airs, it airs as 227.

WHAT?!? I record 227 on Encore, but it didn't record the Jackee spinoff! I wonder if that's because it was listed as "Jackee" and not "227"?? Grrrrrrr!! :mad: I wanna see the Jackee main titles!!

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Btw, Logo(?) just aired the series finale didnt they? I missed it. Didnt know about Jackee having her own theme song and credits to her pilot. I think when it airs, it airs as 227.

When I finally saw Encore air it, it aired as "Jackee" with the rare opening and closing titles.

And thank you TMC, but as I stated, I finally did get to see it on Encore! :)