View Full Version : Antenna TV - the good and the bad


bencasey
11-23-2011, 01:21 PM
Do we really need them to show series that are on our shelves complete on DVD? Really, we can do without Good Times, All in the Family, Sanford and Son, Three's Company, Leave it to Beaver, Dragnet, Dennis the Menace, Father Knows Best, Gidget, Adam-12, etc. If I want to watch any of those series, I'll put it in the DVD player. Of the hundreds of series produced, couldn't they come up with more shows that people HAVEN'T seen over and over and over? I'm not even talking about the shows with only a few episodes. But what about series like San Francisco Beat, The Millionaire, Our Miss Brooks, December Bride, The Joey Bishop Show, Make Room for Daddy, The Little People, To Rome With Love, Julia, Ghost and Mrs. Muir, Nanny and the Professor, Please Don't Eat the Daisies, Mayberry RFD, The New Dick Van Dyke Show, Arnie, How to Marry a Millionaire, GE Theatre, 1950s Dragnet, The Gale Storm Show, My Little Margie, I Married Joan, etc. All shows with at least 2 seasons worth of episodes and that have not been seen and are not out fully on DVD.

AKA
11-23-2011, 01:27 PM
Let's stop playing songs on the radio that people already own on albums, too. Why should those who don't have the albums be exposed to these songs?

LUNCH
11-23-2011, 02:06 PM
DVDs are great but AKA is right,alot of people do not have DVDs of all or even some of the shows stations like Antenna and Me-TV air.Plus in my case I just want to turn on the television set and have something good to watch,without thinking to much about it.--I do agree though there are alot of good older shows like those you mentioned bencasey,and alot more too that should be put back on the air.Maybe what we really need is something like 5 or more widely available,well run classic television stations.

BigManMike
11-23-2011, 10:19 PM
I have very little money. I don't have cable, so Antenna TV is a great way for me to see all these shows I love. I have a few DVDs but not many. I plan to buy more in the new year, but I don't always have the money. I love watching Three's Company on Antenna TV.

Zoneboy
11-23-2011, 10:38 PM
I can see it from both sides, I don't have a large dvd collection and can't always pop in a disc when I want to so having channels such as Antenna TV, ME-TV and others are good to have in that respect but Ben Casey also has a very valid point, most of the shows airing now have been syndicated for many years and a lot of the shows he mentioned haven't been. I see nothing wrong with maybe adding some of these shows into the mix and at least giving the viewers a chance to watch them again or see them for the first time.

1960'sTVfan
11-23-2011, 10:43 PM
I think part of the problem too is that retro TV stations that air the old shows want to play it safe and stick with the more popular shows that they feel confident will draw a sufficient audience. It's a ratings game. Some of the other shows that bencasey mentioned have become lesser known today, mainly due to lack of exposure. If a TV station recieved lot of requests to air a specific show, I imagine they would look into it and air the episodes if it would be possible. Having said that, I think stations like Antenna TV and Me-TV do a pretty good job airing a variety of shows, although I agree there are some long unseen shows that deserve to get some air time as well. Most of my favorite shows I have on DVD, so I don't watch the retro TV stations too much these days, once in a while I tune in but not very often.

bencasey
11-24-2011, 02:11 AM
I have very little money. I don't have cable, so Antenna TV is a great way for me to see all these shows I love. I have a few DVDs but not many. I plan to buy more in the new year, but I don't always have the money. I love watching Three's Company on Antenna TV.


TV isn't just for poor people. Many of us do have enough money to have DVD collections that are extensive. Antenna is missing out on viewers that they could have if they ran other programs. And besides, no offense, but those of us would also have more money to buy the advertisers products so we're probably a more desirable audience.

BigManMike
11-24-2011, 10:12 AM
Most of the shows you named I've never even heard of. The only one I would want to see is Make Room for Daddy. If Antenna TV adds more, I want more 70's and 80's shows.

bencasey
11-24-2011, 11:29 AM
70s sitcoms suck and are completely dated. As for the 80s, the less said the better. Besides, they have most of the bigger 70s shows already, at least the comedies. If you're talking dramas, they have a lot of area where they could improve when it comes to that genre.

GQ28
11-24-2011, 12:33 PM
70s sitcoms suck and are completely dated. As for the 80s, the less said the better. Besides, they have most of the bigger 70s shows already, at least the comedies. If you're talking dramas, they have a lot of area where they could improve when it comes to that genre.

70's sitcoms suck:rolleyes: .......that's a matter of opion.... I love 70's sitcoms.. It doesn't matter what decade a sitcom was made, a classic is a classic... A lot of social issuses where exsposed in the 70's, that was tabot to talk about in the 50's and 60's.... that still goes on in our socity today..(dated)??....I....don't think so... For you to insinuate that the 1970's sitcoms are dated, is a contradiction.... How can that be when you are sitting here talking about, Our Miss Brookes and December Bride? 1950's or 1970's.. It's pretty logical which decade would be condidered more dated.... Pehaps that's why these shows havn't been shown on television, in decades..;)

1960'sTVfan
11-24-2011, 07:39 PM
70s sitcoms suck and are completely dated. As for the 80s, the less said the better. Besides, they have most of the bigger 70s shows already, at least the comedies. If you're talking dramas, they have a lot of area where they could improve when it comes to that genre.

I have to mostly agree about 70's sitcoms, there are a few I enjoy but the majority I don't really care for. All In The Family was a groundbreaking show and it had a huge effect on other sitcoms that were to follow, but not in a good way in my opinion. I've always felt that the 50's was the decade for westerns, the 60's was the decade for sitcoms, and the 70's was the decade for cop shows.

Antenna TV has been airing a couple long unseen shows, Circus Boy and Iron Horse. Me-TV has been airing the Honey West shows.

TVFactFan
11-24-2011, 08:42 PM
I agree with Bencasey

Good times, Sanford and Son, and All in the Family are all COMPLETE on DVD and doesn't need to be aired any longer. Maude is not complete on DVD and that show needs to gain a new fan base but all the others need to go.


Same thing with three's company, it's complete on DVD and shouldnt be aired

Vahan
11-24-2011, 10:52 PM
In the case of AITF, some people are probably still bitter about the botched encoding job Shout Factory did to season 7 (seasons 8 and 9 were fine in terms of enocding, as were seasons 1-6 that Sony put out themselves), and would like to record episodes of season 7 from there so that they wouldn't feel so bitter about it anymore.

TVFactFan
11-24-2011, 11:19 PM
In the case of AITF, some people are probably still bitter about the botched encoding job Shout Factory did to season 7 (seasons 8 and 9 were fine in terms of enocding, as were seasons 1-6 that Sony put out themselves), and would like to record episodes of season 7 from there so that they wouldn't feel so bitter about it anymore.


Recording season 7 from Antenna TV would not make a AITF feel better because those eps are edited too.

Vahan
11-24-2011, 11:23 PM
In that case, maybe they could take Antenna TV's cut, and combine parts from it with parts from a differently cut syndicated version, so that they would form a full-length episode.

IllinoisTVFan
11-25-2011, 03:57 AM
Iroically the shows I watch the most on Antenna TV are the Monkees and Partridge Family and I own both complete on DVD. While I think it would be cool if they got a lot of lesser known shows, the fact is not many peoplewould watch them. I'm sure more people would watch All In The Family than Nanny and the Professor because more people know AITF and not as many know Nanny and the Professor.

TVFactFan
11-25-2011, 12:01 PM
What I would like to see from Antenna TV in 2012

1. Get rid of Too Close for Comfort
2. Get rid of Good Times, Sanford and Son, All in the Family, and Three's Company
3. Improve their 12am to 2am slot on the weekends

bencasey
11-25-2011, 12:18 PM
A lot of social issuses where exsposed in the 70's, that was tabot to talk about in the 50's and 60's.... that still goes on in our socity today..


You say that like its a good thing.

LUNCH
11-25-2011, 12:46 PM
While I think it would be cool if they got a lot of lesser known shows, the fact is not many peoplewould watch them. I'm sure more people would watch All In The Family than Nanny and the Professor because more people know AITF and not as many know Nanny and the Professor.
I don't know,I think these shows would be quite popular.Since alot of these shows have been off the air for years it would almost be like watching a new show.And since they were made during the golden age of television,alot could be considered classics,which of course means they are top television programs.In my case I have not seen a number of these shows,but of those I did view almost all of them are either good-excellent.

IllinoisTVFan
11-25-2011, 02:59 PM
I don't know,I think these shows would be quite popular.Since alot of these shows have been off the air for years it would almost be like watching a new show.And since they were made during the golden age of television,alot could be considered classics,which of course means they are top television programs.In my case I have not seen a number of these shows,but of those I did view almost all of them are either good-excellent.

The problem is though is many people prefer the familiar over lesser known. Not to mention that some of these are very dated now and many people would find boring. Sure, many are considered classics but doesn't mean they are still good or even hold up. I'm not saying I wouldn't watch, but am looking at it from a programming viewpoint, and that is what would the average viewer watch?

GQ28
11-25-2011, 11:26 PM
You say that like its a good thing.In my opinion, social awarness is a very good thing. Issues like racistism, needed to be address and not ignored..... I don't live in a ficional world of make beleave.... But you have a right to your own opinion.... You just don't like 70's sitcoms...I'm not the conservetive type....

treky
11-26-2011, 01:44 AM
Do we really need them to show series that are on our shelves complete on DVD? Really, we can do without Good Times, All in the Family, Sanford and Son, Three's Company, Leave it to Beaver, Dragnet, Dennis the Menace, Father Knows Best, Gidget, Adam-12, etc. If I want to watch any of those series, I'll put it in the DVD player. Of the hundreds of series produced, couldn't they come up with more shows that people HAVEN'T seen over and over and over? I'm not even talking about the shows with only a few episodes. But what about series like San Francisco Beat, The Millionaire, Our Miss Brooks, December Bride, The Joey Bishop Show, Make Room for Daddy, The Little People, To Rome With Love, Julia, Ghost and Mrs. Muir, Nanny and the Professor, Please Don't Eat the Daisies, Mayberry RFD, The New Dick Van Dyke Show, Arnie, How to Marry a Millionaire, GE Theatre, 1950s Dragnet, The Gale Storm Show, My Little Margie, I Married Joan, etc. All shows with at least 2 seasons worth of episodes and that have not been seen and are not out fully on DVD.
I'll repeat what I've said before :not everyone can afford a DVD player. That may seem hard to believe since you can get them for just $40, but not everyone can afford that.
What if you're unemployed and finding it hard just to put food on the table?

bencasey
11-26-2011, 04:09 AM
In my opinion, social awarness is a very good thing. Issues like racistism, needed to be address and not ignored..... I don't live in a ficional world of make beleave.... But you have a right to your own opinion.... You just don't like 70's sitcoms...I'm not the conservetive type....


Being able to write a sentence without five spelling errors is a good thing as well. :lol:

bencasey
11-26-2011, 04:13 AM
I'll repeat what I've said before :not everyone can afford a DVD player. That may seem hard to believe since you can get them for just $40, but not everyone can afford that.
What if you're unemployed and finding it hard just to put food on the table?

If I was that destitute, I think the last thing I would be worrying about or spending my time doing is watching the same sitcoms I've seen dozens of times over and over. If I was that poor that I couldn't afford $40 for a DVD player, I would be spending my time trying to get a better job or trying to further my education instead of watching TV.

Zoneboy
11-26-2011, 05:05 AM
Being able to write a sentence without five spelling errors is a good thing as well. :lol:

Learning the rules of the board about correcting or criticizing another member's grammar is also a good thing.

TVFactFan
11-26-2011, 01:05 PM
I'll repeat what I've said before :not everyone can afford a DVD player. That may seem hard to believe since you can get them for just $40, but not everyone can afford that.
What if you're unemployed and finding it hard just to put food on the table?

Who doesn't have a DVD player in 2011? I mean you can get a simple DVD player for $19.99

Pavan
11-26-2011, 02:52 PM
You all have to remember, Antenna TV is not even a year old yet. Do you think Good Times or something like My Little Margie would be a better sell to start the network off? Financially and ratings wise, a network with just classics that haven't been seen in years does not make sense. Good Times, Three's Company, Sanford & Son, All in the Family are their top shows. And so what if they are on DVD? DVDs are for current fans, they are trying to get the casual viewers and NEW fans as well. You do all realize syndication brings new fans for these series? They are popular. Why not air them? They bring in the ratings.

And as far as the series that haven't been on TV in years, I'm sure some will make their way to Antenna TV soon. I mean their Sunday morning line-up is as rare as it gets right now. More to come as this network is not even a year old--be patient and you'll get some. And to Solomon complaining about Too Close for Comfort? What is the complaint of airing that? It hasn't been seen in years and is not even complete on DVD. It only airs Fri-Sun, so why complain? It's a great show and very underrated. Boy do you have A LOT to learn about TV...

TVFactFan
11-26-2011, 03:01 PM
You all have to remember, Antenna TV is not even a year old yet. Do you think Good Times or something like My Little Margie would be a better sell to start the network off? Financially and ratings wise, a network with just classics that haven't been seen in years does not make sense. Good Times, Three's Company, Sanford & Son, All in the Family are their top shows. And so what if they are on DVD? DVDs are for current fans, they are trying to get the casual viewers and NEW fans as well. You do all realize syndication brings new fans for these series? They are popular. Why not air them? They bring in the ratings.

And as far as the series that haven't been on TV in years, I'm sure some will make their way to Antenna TV soon. I mean their Sunday morning line-up is as rare as it gets right now. More to come as this network is not even a year old--be patient and you'll get some. And to Solomon complaining about Too Close for Comfort? What is the complaint of airing that? It hasn't been seen in years and is not even complete on DVD. It only airs Fri-Sun, so why complain? It's a great show and very underrated. Boy do you have A LOT to learn about TV...


It shouldn't be in between Good Times and All in the Family.

bencasey
11-26-2011, 03:46 PM
You all have to remember, Antenna TV is not even a year old yet. Do you think Good Times or something like My Little Margie would be a better sell to start the network off? Financially and ratings wise, a network with just classics that haven't been seen in years does not make sense. Good Times, Three's Company, Sanford & Son, All in the Family are their top shows. And so what if they are on DVD? DVDs are for current fans, they are trying to get the casual viewers and NEW fans as well. You do all realize syndication brings new fans for these series? They are popular. Why not air them? They bring in the ratings.

And as far as the series that haven't been on TV in years, I'm sure some will make their way to Antenna TV soon. I mean their Sunday morning line-up is as rare as it gets right now. More to come as this network is not even a year old--be patient and you'll get some. And to Solomon complaining about Too Close for Comfort? What is the complaint of airing that? It hasn't been seen in years and is not even complete on DVD. It only airs Fri-Sun, so why complain? It's a great show and very underrated. Boy do you have A LOT to learn about TV...


I like Too Close For Comfort and that's one 80s show I'm glad they are airing. Saves me the trouble of having to transfer old VHS tapes for the last 3 seasons of the show and also I can fill in my missing 3rd season episodes. As "jiggle" shows go, I liked it better and found it to be far less offensive than Three's Company was.

Pavan
11-26-2011, 03:55 PM
It shouldn't be in between Good Times and All in the Family.

Who cares where it is? It's not overplayed. The show is good, if you actually try it. And 1 or 2 episodes isn't trying.

TVFactFan
11-26-2011, 03:57 PM
Who cares where it is? It's not overplayed. The show is good, if you actually try it. And 1 or 2 episodes isn't trying.


I can try it if it's on at a time where nothing is on TV. I don't like sampling new shows during primetime

Pavan
11-26-2011, 04:00 PM
I can try it if it's on at a time where nothing is on TV. I don't like sampling new shows during primetime

That's BS Solomon. If you're already watching Good Times and All in the Family (that is your complaint that it is on between those two), why not watch it? What are you watching on Friday nights at 8pm anyway? And it encores at midnight on Fridays and Sundays (see below). If you really want to sample it, you can record it and watch it on your own time. Stop complaining about schedule times. That is a 1980 complaint. You can watch it on your own terms. Same thing with you and Soap. Another classic that hasn't been aired much in recent years.

Too Close for Comfort encores later in the night as well:

Friday Nights 8p ET
Friday Nights 12a ET
Sunday Nights 7p ET
Sunday Nights 12a ET

TVFactFan
11-26-2011, 04:03 PM
That's BS Solomon. If you're already watching Good Times and All in the Family (that is your complaint that it is on between those two), why not watch it? What are you watching on Friday nights at 8pm anyway? And it encores at midnight on Fridays and Sundays (see below). If you really want to sample it, you can record it and watch it on your own time. Stop complaining about schedule times. That is a 1980 complaint. You can watch it on your own terms. Same thing with you and Soap. Another classic that hasn't been aired much in recent years.

Too Close for Comfort encores later in the night as well:

Friday Nights 8p ET
Friday Nights 12a ET
Sunday Nights 7p ET
Sunday Nights 12a ET



Ok I will sample on sunday at 7pm and fridays at 12am

Pavan
11-26-2011, 04:04 PM
Ok I will sample on sunday at 7pm and fridays at 12am

See you didn't even know the air times. If you're gonna complain about something, you better get your "TV Facts" straight Mr. TVFactFan.

Pavan
11-26-2011, 04:10 PM
Tomorrow's episodes of Too Close for Comfort:

7:00PM "Girls of the Media"
Sara's face is put on a nude photograph.

7:30PM "The Courier"
A pretty messenger faints on Henry's bed.

I expect a discussion from you Solomon on the TCFC board on Sunday night!

TVFactFan
11-26-2011, 04:11 PM
Tomorrow's episodes of Too Close for Comfort:

7:00PM "Girls of the Media"
Sara's face is put on a nude photograph.

7:30PM "The Courier"
A pretty messenger faints on Henry's bed.

I expect a discussion from you Solomon on the TCFC board on Sunday night!


Ok

IllinoisTVFan
11-26-2011, 04:22 PM
I hadn't seen TCFC in many years so was pleased to see this. I remember a few scenes from this show like "it's Wendell with a wubble u" then remember another one when Munroe and the father (was his name Ted?)were in a closet and Munroe had to sneeze and then go into a hanging garmet bag in a closet.

BigManMike
11-26-2011, 05:27 PM
Too Close for Comfort is a great show. I had never seen it before Antenna TV. I didn't know what it was about, but I had heard the name. I didn't know if I would like it or not, but I gave it a try, and it turns out, I love it. It's a good enjoyable show, and it's nice to see it on Antenna TV. My only disappointment, is it doesn't get aired enough and takes a long time to get through. That probably has something to do with the contract though.

70s show watcher
11-26-2011, 06:14 PM
too close for comfort is a great show

1960'sTVfan
11-26-2011, 07:15 PM
I agree Too Close For Comfort is a pretty good show. I don't care for the 1980's production values, but I like Ted Knight much better in this show compared to the Mary Tyler Moore Show. TCFC is one of those shows I don't mind watching the repeats on TV, but I'm not interested to have DVD's.

Pavan
11-26-2011, 07:31 PM
5 positive posts on this thread for TCFC just today, Solomon.

CommonTater
11-27-2011, 12:27 PM
Do we really need them to show series that are on our shelves complete on DVD? Really, we can do without Good Times, All in the Family, Sanford and Son, Three's Company, Leave it to Beaver, Dragnet, Dennis the Menace, Father Knows Best, Gidget, Adam-12, etc. If I want to watch any of those series, I'll put it in the DVD player. Of the hundreds of series produced, couldn't they come up with more shows that people HAVEN'T seen over and over and over? I'm not even talking about the shows with only a few episodes. But what about series like San Francisco Beat, The Millionaire, Our Miss Brooks, December Bride, The Joey Bishop Show, Make Room for Daddy, The Little People, To Rome With Love, Julia, Ghost and Mrs. Muir, Nanny and the Professor, Please Don't Eat the Daisies, Mayberry RFD, The New Dick Van Dyke Show, Arnie, How to Marry a Millionaire, GE Theatre, 1950s Dragnet, The Gale Storm Show, My Little Margie, I Married Joan, etc. All shows with at least 2 seasons worth of episodes and that have not been seen and are not out fully on DVD.

:(
There are a lot of people who can't afford to buy DVD's. Millions are jobless and rely on an antenna only and appreciate the shows aired on Antenna TV.
I only wish we could pick up this channel, I would feel very blessed. We can't pick up anything with an antenna and there is no cable out here. A lot of the folks who live in rural area's miss out on this.

GQ28
11-27-2011, 11:44 PM
Being able to write a sentence without five spelling errors is a good thing as well. :lol:
Oh.. I didn,t know that you was perfect! I was rushing and made a couple of errors, for your infomation......JERK OFF!!!! you can spell that!! Put that in your pipe and smoke it!:mad: :mad: :mad: VERY INSULTED!!

TKMetal
11-28-2011, 12:56 AM
Antenna TV has a pretty decent line-up as far as I am concerned. I mean they only launched 11 months ago and could have easily stuck with the same line-up of Sony shows for awhile but have listened to viewer feedback, acquired more series and limited the more modern ones to a single night. Now they just need to acquire some more classic animation to go with Totally Tooned In.

MRPITT
11-28-2011, 12:08 PM
I love Too Close for Comfort one of my favorites growing up

Ryan Chamberlain
11-30-2011, 07:28 PM
They are full of such crap. They were set to launch on 12/1 and it still says that on their website. Yet, they just told me on their FB page it won't be till 12/7. Ugh, I hate living in the sticks and being behind the rest of the nation. :mad:

bencasey
12-06-2011, 03:48 AM
They are full of such crap. They were set to launch on 12/1 and it still says that on their website. Yet, they just told me on their FB page it won't be till 12/7. Ugh, I hate living in the sticks and being behind the rest of the nation. :mad:

So move.

treky
12-06-2011, 04:40 AM
now, now children. Remember you're ladies!:lol: