New Update : Rare 1970's & 1980's Original Broadcasts ( w/o/c )

( Oct. 2011 ) With Original Commercials DVD Trading List Update !
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I have updated my w/o/c dvd trading list , and I have included Classic Network T.V. Shows With Original Commercials from the 1970's - 1980's. This time I have included some very rare Chico And The Man Episodes , These Are Very Rare Airings ! I have also included some rare Jeffersons , Three's Company & Eight is Enough episodes. I have hundreds of airings still yet to be added to my already huge list. I am always looking for used blank beta tapes that have recordings made on them from the 1970's - 1980's , so if you have any old beta tapes stored away somewhere and want to get rid of them , send me a email. Also keep the t.v. show trade lists coming in ! I am always setting up new trades. I am very interested in any rare
Three's Company or Dukes of Hazzard stuff.

My update is listed at the bottom of this message.

Thanks , Porkys1982

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* Update Listed Below *



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CLASSIC T.V. FROM THE 1970's & 1980's

W/O/C ( With Original Commercials )


I am looking for Original Airings of any t.v. show , special , news broadcast or
sporting event that have all Original Network Commercials included & that aired between 1970 - 1985. I trade for ( DVD / VHS / or BETA ). Trades Only !


I am also looking for old Beta Tapes that have recordings taped from T.V from
the 1970's & 1980's.


If anyone has any , send a private email to :
PORKYS1982@SBCGLOBAL.NET


I Use a program called Nero to make copies of DVD's on this list. All copies are
made on my computer for the best and clearest copies possible.


Every Show & T.V. Special Listed Here is the Original Network Airing ( WITH ALL ORIGINAL COMMERCIALS INCLUDED ) ! * Unless Otherwise Noted *


For a T.V. Show Description & Episode Summary Of Any Show On This List , Look Up The Show & Episode Title At : www.tv.com


When a selection on my list says ( BETAMAX TRANSFER FROM MASTER BETA TAPE ) this means that I had the Original Beta Tape in my possession , & transferred it myself using my Sony BetaMax Machine straight to DVD.



Here Is The ( Oct. 2011 ) Update :

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* These are all new additions to my w/o/c trading list *


CBS SUNDAY NIGHT / 8:00 - 11:05 / MAY 7 , 1978
1. ELVIS IN CONCERT ( RERUN )
2. ALL IN THE FAMILY : " THE COMMERCIAL " ( RERUN )
3. ALICE : " ALICE BY MOONLIGHT " ( RERUN )
4. JOHNNY CASH SPRING FEVER SPECIAL - 5 MIN. ONLY ( RERUN )

CHRISTMAS 1983 / ABC & CBS SUNDAY NIGHT / 7:18 - 9:47 /
DEC. 25 , 1983 / PITTSBURGH , PENNSYLVANIA
* STARTS ON ABC * WTAE-TV CHANNEL 4
1. RIPLEY'S BELIEVE IT OR NOT ! ( 42 MIN. )
* CHANNEL CHANGED TO CBS * KDKA-TV CHANNEL 2
2. ALICE : " `TIS THE SEASON TO BE JEALOUS "
3. ONE DAY AT A TIME : " NOT A CREATURE WAS STAYING "
4. THE JEFFERSONS ; ` I DO , I DON'T " ( RERUN )
5. GOODNIGHT , BEANTOWN : " PEACE ON EARTH " ( 17 MIN. )

CBS SUNDAY NIGHT / 8:00 - 9:30 / DEC. 25 , 1983
1. ALICE : " `TIS THE SEASON TO BE JEALOUS "
2. ONE DAY AT A TIME : " NOT A CREATURE WAS STAYING "
3. THE JEFFERSONS ; ` I DO , I DON'T " ( RERUN )

MARY - SEPT. 24 , 1978 / STARRING MARY TYLER MOORE
( ONLY HAS SOME COMMERCIALS )

EIGHT IS ENOUGH : " MY SON , THE PROM QUEEN " - JAN. 9 , 1980 ABC

GALACTICA 1980 : " GALACTICA DISCOVERS EARTH " PART 1
JAN. 27 , 1980 ABC

GALACTICA 1980 : " GALACTICA DISCOVERS EARTH " PART 2
FEB. 3 , 1980 ABC

GALACTICA 1980 : " SPACE CROPPERS " - APRIL 27 , 1980 ABC

GALACTICA 1980 : " THE RETURN OF STARBUCK " - MAY 4 , 1980 ABC

THE JEFFERSONS : " THE JEFFERSONS GO TO HAWAII "
NOV. 16 , 1980 1 HOUR SPECIAL CBS

CHICO AND THE MAN : " PILOT " - AIRED IN 1980-81
KPTV-TV CHANNEL 12 PORTLAND , OREGON

CHICO AND THE MAN : " CHARO AND THE MATADOR " - AIRED IN 1980-81
KPTV-TV CHANNEL 12 PORTLAND , OREGON

CHICO AND THE MAN : " BORROWED TROUBLE " - AIRED IN 1980-81
KPTV-TV CHANNEL 12 PORTLAND , OREGON

CHICO AND THE MAN : " NO ROOM IN THE GARAGE " - AIRED IN 1980-81
KPTV-TV CHANNEL 12 PORTLAND , OREGON

CHICO AND THE MAN : " SECOND THOUGHTS " - AIRED IN 1980-81
KPTV-TV CHANNEL 12 PORTLAND , OREGON

CHICO AND THE MAN : " NATURAL CAUSES " - AIRED IN 1980-81
KPTV-TV CHANNEL 12 PORTLAND , OREGON

CHICO AND THE MAN : " OLD DOGS " - AIRED IN 1980-81
KPTV-TV CHANNEL 12 PORTLAND , OREGON

CHICO AND THE MAN : " NEW SUIT " - AIRED IN 1980-81
KPTV-TV CHANNEL 12 PORTLAND , OREGON

CHICO AND THE MAN : " E PLURIBUS USED CAR " - AIRED IN 1980-81
KPTV-TV CHANNEL 12 PORTLAND , OREGON

CHICO AND THE MAN : " BIRD IN A GILDED CAGE " - AIRED IN 1980-81
KPTV-TV CHANNEL 12 PORTLAND , OREGON

CHICO AND THE MAN : " ED VS. THE IRS " - AIRED IN 1980-81
KPTV-TV CHANNEL 12 PORTLAND , OREGON

CHICO AND THE MAN : " CHICO PACKS HIS BAGS " - AIRED IN 1980-81
KPTV-TV CHANNEL 12 PORTLAND , OREGON

CHICO AND THE MAN : " DELLA MOVES IN " - AIRED IN 1980-81
KPTV-TV CHANNEL 12 PORTLAND , OREGON

CHICO AND THE MAN : " SECOND COMING OF DELLA " - AIRED IN 1980-81
KPTV-TV CHANNEL 12 PORTLAND , OREGON

WELCOME BACK , KOTTER : " PILOT " - JAN. 1981
( SYNDICATION RERUN ) WKBD CHANNEL 50 DETROIT , MI

TALES OF THE GOLD MONKEY - SEPT. 22 , 1982
SERIES PREMIERE MOVIE / ABC MOVIE SPECIAL / 2 HOURS

KNIGHT RIDER : " KNIGHT OF THE PHOENIX " - MAY 13 , 1983 NBC
( PILOT MOVIE , RERUN , 2 HOURS )

WISHMAN : " PILOT " - JUNE 23 , 1983 ABC ( VERY RARE )
WISHMAN was a ABC TV pilot from 1983 about a scientist and his wife that go on the run with a genetically engineered mini-humanoid ( a doe-eyed, dwarfish sea monkey with giant anime eyes that's really more unsettling to look at that than cute ) possessing magical powers. The wife is played by Terminator star Linda Hamilton. This is a very Rare ABC Airing !

THE LOVE BOAT : " JAPAN CRUISE - WHEN WORLDS COLLIDE / THE CAPTAIN AND THE GEISHA / THE LOTTERY WINNERS / THE EMPEROR'S FORTUNE "
NOV. 5 , 1983 ABC ( 2 HOURS )

HARDCASTLE & McCORMICK :
" MR. HARDCASTLE GOES TO WASHINGTON " - JAN. 15 , 1984 ABC

HARDCASTLE & McCORMICK : " THE CRYSTAL DUCK " -
JAN. 22 , 1984 ( RERUN )

HARDCASTLE & McCORMICK : " THE HOMECOMING PART 2 " -
MARCH 11 , 1984 ABC

AUTOMAN : " MURDER MTV " - MARCH 12 , 1984 ABC

HARDCASTLE & McCORMICK :
" DID YOU SEE THE ONE THAT GOT AWAY ? " - MARCH 18 , 1984 ABC

AUTOMAN : " MURDER , TAKE ONE " - MARCH 19 , 1984 ABC

THREE'S COMPANY : " THE CHARMING STRANGER " - MAY 1 , 1984
( RERUN ) ABC

THE FACTS OF LIFE : " I'M DANCING AS FAST AS I CAN " -
MAY 30 , 1984 ( RERUN ) NBC

THE FACTS OF LIFE : " THE SECOND TIME AROUND " - JAN. 1 , 1985
( RERUN ) NBC

THE COSBY SHOW : " VANESSA'S NEW CLASS " -
SUMMER 1985 NBC ( RERUN )

A WEEKEND OF FOUL PLAY - JULY 1978
* A CELEBRATION OF THE WORLD PREMIERE OF
THE MOTION PICTURE FOUL PLAY *
( WITH : BILLY BARTY , PETER BROWN , CHEVY CHASE , SCATMAN CROTHERS , PHIL FOSTER , GOLDIE HAWN , BILL KIRCHENBAUER , JOHNNY MATHIS , KRISTY McNICHOL , JIMMY McNICHOL , MEAT LOAF , BURGESS MEREDITH , DUDLEY MOORE , MARTIN MULL , JOHN RITTER , THE SPINNERS , JOEY TRAVOLTA , VILLAGE PEOPLE , ANSON WILLIAMS , HENRY WINKLER & JOHNNY YUNE ) ONLY HAS ONE COMMERCIAL BREAK - BUT IS VERY RARE !

JAWS - 1975
ABC SUNDAY NIGHT MOVIE SPECIAL / AIRED OCT. 5 , 1980
STARRING : ROY SCHEIDER & ROBERT SHAW

THE JAYNE MANSFIELD STORY - 1980
THE CBS WEDNESDAY NIGHT MOVIES / AIRED OCT. 29 , 1980
STARRING : LONI ANDERSON & ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER


* These are all new additions to my w/o/c trading list *
( This is not my complete w/o/c trading list )
check out the link below for the full list of original airings

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has ANYBODY ever done business with this person?
i tried to set up a trade, but NEVER got a reply back, am i being ignored for no reason whatsoever :confused:

has ANYBODY ever done business with this person?
i tried to set up a trade, but NEVER got a reply back, am i being ignored for no reason whatsoever :confused:

I contacted him a couple times in the past with items he would be interested in, but never heard back either. I don't think he's an actual person/poster, just a computer program that randomly spits out have lists.

I traded with this poster probably 6 or 7 years ago successfully, and got some good stuff, but not recently.

Ben is one my all-time favorite traders. I have done a number of successful trades with him on VHS and later DVD-R and have always been very happy.
I highly recommend him. I am sure he's not intentionally ignoring anybody.

Sadly if a trader sees nothing on your list that they want most likely they won't get back to you. That's just the reality of trading. And let's face it, whatever Ben is looking for has to be VERY RARE

Sadly if a trader sees nothing on your list that they want most likely they won't get back to you. That's just the reality of trading. And let's face it, whatever Ben is looking for has to be VERY RARE

Good to know, I wont waste my time sending my list if they dont have the courtesy to at least reply.

Good to know, I wont waste my time sending my list if they dont have the courtesy to at least reply.


Well when you approach a trader for the first time you send your list and wait to see if they get back to you. If they don't then they are not interested.

No different than being on a dating service and sending someone a message and that person not responding because they don't like what they see.

I have never used a dating service but I try to reply to any messages I get especially If I was the one doing the reacing out.

I have never used a dating service but I try to reply to any messages I get especially If I was the one doing the reacing out.


I'm guilty of the same thing. I have received a list from traders and i didn't see anything that jumped out at me and I would not respond. Basically you have to know what type of things the person you are emailing would want. Now take Ben for example, based on his list you know the only thing he would want is original airings with commercials he doesn't have. It wouldn't make sense for someone to contact Ben and offer cable versions of certain shows or original airings without commercials because you would be wasting his time. After I had a couple of trades with Ben, I had nothing else to offer him because he had pretty every original airing that surfaced in the trading community. I personally think he should retire from trading because there is nothing you can offer him LOL

I have alot of original airings from the same era not listed on his list.

I have alot of original airings from the same era not listed on his list.

Ok well then it maybe something else then.

One little trick I've picked up over the years is to send a real basic email first just explaining who you are, how you found them, and then offer to send your have list. If you receive no response, then the email address may be inactive, your message may have ended up in their spam folder, or they may not be interested in trading. However, if they reply to your initial message and seem interested, send your list in the second email. If they blow you off after that, then assume you don't have anything of interest to them.

When I first started out, with my then-small collection, I used to think that not responding at all was rude. And then as I became a more active trader, and my collection grew, I became flooded with requests -- not just from people who had stuff to trade, but from people who had absolutely nothing to trade, people who wanted me to sell (something I don't do), people who wanted me to upload stuff to youtube (something else I don't do), people wanting me to trade for blanks (something else I don't do) and even people who would just want me to send them stuff for free. And it's just not feasible for me or anyone to respond to all of that.

However, if Person A posts looking for something(s) and person B is polite enough to respond that they have it, then i think Person A should be obligated to respond. Even if they don't accept the trade, they should at least respond with a thanks. I take posting a request as a public plea for help and if someone is polite enough to respond that they have it and offer help, and that person doesn't respond, it's being rude and unappreciative. Unfortunately, this is quite common, though I do think there are some exceptions to the rule.

However, if Person A posts looking for something(s) and person B is polite enough to respond that they have it, then i think Person A should be obligated to respond. Even if they don't accept the trade, they should at least respond with a thanks. I take posting a request as a public plea for help and if someone is polite enough to respond that they have it and offer help, and that person doesn't respond, it's being rude and unappreciative. Unfortunately, this is quite common, though I do think there are some exceptions to the rule.

This Exactly ^^^^



And for the record I never sent him a message but I was going to until I read this thread and decided not to waste m y time.

Unfortunately, with the bad PR ole Ben is getting here, someone with something ole Ben may be looking for may decide not to trade with him because of what they're reading here.

One reaps what one sows.

Poor guy. It's not like he ripped someone off. Just saying.

I am so sorry everybody ! I have not tried to ignore anybody - really . I have not traded with anyone for well over a year now. I do not even use that old email address anymore. I really just don't have time to trade anymore. I am spending all extra time that I have with my family ( my wife and 2 boys ). Plus I just recently lost my mother to lung cancer , and just found out that my sister has ovarian cancer. So there is a lot going on.

I do want to thank all of the great traders out there that made this hobby so fun for me in the past. Thanks for the good times ! This is a great hobby !

I never formally announced my retirement from the hobby , because I never knew that that was going to be the outcome. Things just started happening , I stopped spending time on the computer , and before I know it a year passes. I am very sorry to anyone who I never contacted back for future trades.

Once again thanks to everyone for the great trades of past !

I am formally calling this my retirement now from the hobby.

Everyone have fun , I sure did , but it is time to move on I guess.

I know someone out there will keep the w/o/c side of video trading alive. I know I sure made an impact on getting w/o/c stuff out there for those 7 years that I was trading.

Once again sorry to everyone , but most importantly Thanks for the trades !

Ben ( Porkys1982 )

I am so sorry everybody ! I have not tried to ignore anybody - really . I have not traded with anyone for well over a year now. I do not even use that old email address anymore. I really just don't have time to trade anymore. I am spending all extra time that I have with my family ( my wife and 2 boys ). Plus I just recently lost my mother to lung cancer , and just found out that my sister has ovarian cancer. So there is a lot going on.

I do want to thank all of the great traders out there that made this hobby so fun for me in the past. Thanks for the good times ! This is a great hobby !

I never formally announced my retirement from the hobby , because I never knew that that was going to be the outcome. Things just started happening , I stopped spending time on the computer , and before I know it a year passes. I am very sorry to anyone who I never contacted back for future trades.

Once again thanks to everyone for the great trades of past !

I am formally calling this my retirement now from the hobby.

Everyone have fun , I sure did , but it is time to move on I guess.

I know someone out there will keep the w/o/c side of video trading alive. I know I sure made an impact on getting w/o/c stuff out there for those 7 years that I was trading.

Once again sorry to everyone , but most importantly Thanks for the trades !

Ben ( Porkys1982 )




I retired because everyone has the same stuff

has ANYBODY ever done business with this person?
i tried to set up a trade, but NEVER got a reply back, am i being ignored for no reason whatsoever :confused:

He is retiring from the trading cause of some family problems.