View Full Version : 2 questions about TVLand - If anyone knows


rezny717
10-09-2011, 01:57 PM
1)When did they begin airing TV shows with itsy bitsy ,teeny weeny bite-sized closing credits,in a TV show's last scene? and 2)Why do they do this?

LUNCH
10-09-2011, 02:13 PM
Not sure when they started it,perhaps 2 or 3 years ago.And to be fair as most of know the majority of tv stations do this nowadays.Why they do it?Just to add more commercials of course.I think before long American television in general is going to be about 70 percent commercials if it's not there already.

clj2
10-09-2011, 02:14 PM
I think it started in early 2009. Likely to gain 30 seconds (give or take a few) more for another commercial since they aren't taking extra time to air the credits.

Regulus
10-09-2011, 07:46 PM
I hear they show 18 minutes of Commercials for every 17 minutes of programs, which means the number of Commercials shown per hour has :angryfire SURPASSED THE 50 PERCENT MARK! :angryfire

There's no way on Earth I'll ever watch anything on Pay-TV these days, it simply isn't worth it!

TVFactFan
10-09-2011, 08:17 PM
I think it started in early 2009. Likely to gain 30 seconds (give or take a few) more for another commercial since they aren't taking extra time to air the credits.


I know it was after 2006 because i have eps from tv land where the credits wasn't like that. It looks like a copy from what TBS was doing with their shows.

BigManMike
10-10-2011, 09:06 AM
They started crunching the credits in Fall 2005 but they got to be so bad where the don't air that part at all and just put their own fast credits over the show probably sometime within the past year. I hate TV Land.

LUNCH
10-10-2011, 09:54 AM
Most of these stations don't even do a slow fade into commercials anymore.In other words in the past there would be a short pause before the commercial break.Nowadays, they just interupt whatever you're watching often in the middle of someone talking and HIT you with a commercial. Seriously, I do not know how anyone can even watch alot of those stations anymore.I don't care if you record the show or not,so much is cut out. Blame outfits like the FCC for allowing this to happen.

LUNCH
10-10-2011, 10:06 AM
By the way I'm curious does anyone have a reliable link comparing the amount of ads allowed on American television to the amount shown in other countries.I think people would be shocked at how much MORE commercials are allowed on American tv when you compare it to lets say Western European countries television and of course many other countries.

born2late
10-10-2011, 12:43 PM
I hate that they do this. Also some channels crunch and run the credits so fast, you have to be a speed reader to read it. :mad:

Regulus
10-10-2011, 01:35 PM
By the way I'm curious does anyone have a reliable link comparing the amount of ads allowed on American television to the amount shown in other countries.I think people would be shocked at how much MORE commercials are allowed on American tv when you compare it to lets say Western European countries television and of course many other countries.

I don't know of such as list, I do know Canada limits Commercials to 12 minutes per hour on their stations. When I lived in Detroit, whenever the Olympic Games were played I would tune into the Station in Windsor, Ontario because their coverage SMOKED NBC's. (I read somewhere NBC actually pondered the idea of making Cable Systems that had access to Canadian TV BLACK OUT their coverage of the 1996 Olympics because in previous Olympics their US Stations along the Canadian Border had low ratings because all the viewers were watching the Canadian Coverage instead. They backed off when a Cable System in the Buffalo/Niagara Falls region threatened a "Constitutional Rights" Legal Battle if they imposed their blackout).

LUNCH
10-10-2011, 01:54 PM
Regulus it is rather surprising that they do not have an accurate list on the net showing how much more ads are on American tv.I could not find anything either.It's almost like tv stations want to keep this information a secret.lol.And yeah who in their right mind would watch NBC otherwise known as 'Nothing But Commercials' not to mention any other American tv station when it comes to something like the Olympics if they can view it on a Canadian station.LESS commercials also= much better coverage.

Regulus
10-10-2011, 02:26 PM
I took the liberty of recording the Opening and Closing Cerimonies of the 1996 Olympics on BOTH NBC and CBC, the differance was like night and day. The Canadian Coverage had about four less minutes of commercials per hour than NBCs. Also, Hillary Clinton and Al Gore were in the audience, and you couldn't go 15 minutes without seeing them on NBC, while CBC showed them (and the Canadian Prime Minister) ONLY ONCE!

LUNCH
10-10-2011, 02:34 PM
And I'll add, the main reason I've posted so much about the obscene amount of commercials that have taken over American television is because alot of people still believe nonsense put out by tv stations.Nonsense like, 'oh well it takes alot of ads to make a small profit' etc .etc. Or they simply are un aware of the fact that in many other countries,television does not,or are not allowed to treat viewers like idiots or third class citizens.I mean I know it's not going to make much or any of a difference posting on an internet site,but still...

Regulus
10-10-2011, 02:49 PM
And I'll add the main reason I've posted so much about the obscene amount of commercials that have taken over American television is because alot of people still believe nonsense put out by tv stations like 'oh well it takes alot of ads to make a small profit' etc .etc. Or they simply are un aware of the fact that in many other countries television do not, or are not allowed to treat viewers like idiots or third class citizens.I mean I know it's not going to make much of a difference posting on an internet site,but still...

The "Sheeple" blindly plod along and put up with what the Networks put out for them. I decided not to be part of that "Sheeple" Group and pulled out a number of years ago. But Karma has come to the Networks, as they continue to lose viewers, and Pay-TV is losing sunscribers. The Television Industry may very well be making the same mistake the Passenger Railroad and Trans-Oceanic Passenger Ship Industry made after World War II. Both of them brushed aside a little something called the Airplane, and within 20 years both virtually ceased to exist. The CEO of a Railroad Company stated "We made the mistake of believing we were in the Railroad Business when in reality we were in the Transportation Business". Just think, if they had not made that mistake last year Instead of Flying to Rhode Island and Texas on Delta Airlines and Recife, Brazil on TAM Linias Aerias, I may have flown to Rhode Island on Penn Central Airlines, Brazil on Cunard Airlines, and Texas on Union Pacific Airlines! :lol:

clj2
10-10-2011, 05:13 PM
If you want to watch classic television and the commercials bother you badly, I'd suggest Me-TV or Antenna TV, they don't show many

Regulus
10-10-2011, 05:38 PM
If you want to watch classic television and the commercials bother you badly, I'd suggest Me-TV or Antenna TV, they don't show many

I'll watch LSN Tonight. :D

LUNCH
10-10-2011, 05:39 PM
I really like Antenna-tv,I hope they don't change! Still waiting on Me-tv here. For a cable commercial tv station,FamilyNet is also good when they air classics,they treat them pretty well.

ajgenard
10-11-2011, 01:20 AM
The "Sheeple" blindly plod along and put up with what the Networks put out for them. I decided not to be part of that "Sheeple" Group and pulled out a number of years ago. But Karma has come to the Networks, as they continue to lose viewers, and Pay-TV is losing sunscribers. The Television Industry may very well be making the same mistake the Passenger Railroad and Trans-Oceanic Passenger Ship Industry made after World War II. Both of them brushed aside a little something called the Airplane, and within 20 years both virtually ceased to exist. The CEO of a Railroad Company stated "We made the mistake of believing we were in the Railroad Business when in reality we were in the Transportation Business". Just think, if they had not made that mistake last year Instead of Flying to Rhode Island and Texas on Delta Airlines and Recife, Brazil on TAM Linias Aerias, I may have flown to Rhode Island on Penn Central Airlines, Brazil on Cunard Airlines, and Texas on Union Pacific Airlines! :lol:

You could say they believe they're in the TV business but in reality they are in the entertainment business. I am confident it will eventually reach a point of absurdity where even the mindless sheeple will say screw this and things will change for the better.

Earlier this evening I was at my parents and caught Dick Van Dyke on TVLand. After watching it on MeTV for the past several months their presentation was outright appalling. I wonder how Da Vinci would feel if someone trimmed off 20 percent of the canvas to the Mona Lisa, reprinted his name on it in some tiny modern font, and slapped a big Louvre logo in a corner while putting a bright red banner on the other side reading "New Exhibits in the Egyptian Antiquities Collection Starting Next Week!!!"

What's most depressing is the fact my parents, who grew up with this stuff, see no problem with shelling out $190/month to Comcrap (and thereby the people making these decisions). They, along with everyone else who knows I don't have cable, think I'm some kind of weirdo because I don't have cable. They pay someone $2300 a year for commercials and I'm supposed to be the crazy one? :rant:

clj2
10-11-2011, 12:56 PM
Why on earth does what seems like every thread on here for the past few weeks start knocking pay TV?! Keep in mind, there is a lot more to cable than re-runs from 40 years ago/Nick at Nite and TV Land. Since I watch sports, news channels, original programming on nets like Travel, A&E, FX, USA, History, Food, etc. - last time I checked, that stuff's not on DVD, and I don't mind paying for it, although I wish it was cheaper. I hardly even watch reruns on cable networks, as I agree, they do have too many commercials (although I will if it's something I like and nothing else is on), if I want to watch something old, I'll watch Me-TV. I agree, if I'm just watching something that's available over the air, I wouldn't see any use for cable.

There are a lot of us that do enjoy cable TV and see a purpose in it. Plus, I don't want to have to fool with my antenna for local channel reception where I am. ;) I'm not trying to be rude, but just stating my opinion. There is PLENTY of stuff on cable that's not on DVD - and if you look at the recent trends, most of cable's most successful networks air a lot of, if not mostly, original programming that is not available on home media.

ajgenard
10-11-2011, 06:33 PM
Cable is awesome IF you actually use it and get your money's worth. However 95% of the people I know watch no more than 5-10 hours of TV a week and most of that is on the main broadcast stations or the aforementioned reruns and movies that are hacked to pieces. I believe most pay TV subscribers on this board do indeed get their money's worth since we all watch a lot of TV.

In my eyes, pay TV is the same as owning a large truck. 95% of truck owners outright insist they need such a huge vehicle for everyday use. Spend thousands of dollars more per year in gas, maintenance, and initial cost than they would just by using a regular car. Meanwhile it's used to haul something maybe twice a year. Only a small minority of people actually use their 3/4 ton trucks and premium cable service. But most of them have either fallen victim to vanity or believed everything a salesmen told them.

Regulus
10-11-2011, 07:29 PM
Cable is awesome IF you actually use it and get your money's worth. However 95% of the people I know watch no more than 5-10 hours of TV a week and most of that is on the main broadcast stations or the aforementioned reruns and movies that are hacked to pieces. I believe most pay TV subscribers on this board do indeed get their money's worth since we all watch a lot of TV.

In my eyes, pay TV is the same as owning a large truck. 95% of truck owners outright insist they need such a huge vehicle for everyday use. Spend thousands of dollars more per year in gas, maintenance, and initial cost than they would just by using a regular car. Meanwhile it's used to haul something maybe twice a year. Only a small minority of people actually use their 3/4 ton trucks and premium cable service. But most of them have either fallen victim to vanity or believed everything a salesmen told them.
This is why we need to have Channels offered A-LA-CARTE! This way you would receive (and pay for) ONLY the channels you watch, not a bunch of channels you never watch. If they were to do this and if Congress would amend the "V-Chip" law to include Commercials, I'd re-sunscribe.

Here's the Channels I'd get

ESPN
ESPN 2
Versus
Speed
Turner Classic Movies
HGTV

And that would be it!