It looks as if RTV has changed the shows they air. These are all gone from my local affiliate:

Marcus Welby, M.D.
Alfred Hitchcock Hour
Suspense Theater
A-Team
Knight Rider
Ironside
Airwolf
Kojak
Adam-12
Dragnet
Emergency!
McHale's Navy
Leave It To Beaver
Buck Rogers in the 25th Century

among many others. All of those shows and any references to them are gone from their website and the "Shows" page is blank.

The schedule now has I Spy, Bill Cosby Show, Daniel Boone, Starsky & Hutch, The Saint, Cold Case Files, Da Vinci's Inquest, Police Story, Zorro, Route 66, "Movin' On" (?), Robin Hood, Celebrity Kitchen, and some other stuff. Weekends have a lot of stuff that doesn't even have to do with classic TV. A show entitled Steel Dreams (a show about vehicle fabrication), Road Classics (a show about old cars), The Great Outdoorsman, Little Miracles (a show about families with sick children), "Intelligence", "Comedy Shop", and Distant Roads (a show about culture).

Are any of you having this? I'm assuming they've lost the NBC Universal library.

RTV from Johnstown/Altoona PA has been replaced with METV :eek:

I have a feeling RTV is going under. Some of the new shows are okay but there aren't many of them and the weekends are a mess now.

After reading this thread I just noticed they are not showing Marcus Welby anymore here either(you know the same 20 or so episodes they keep repeating).So perhaps the same thing happenned here.---And they have been showing stuff on the weekends that has nothing to do with classic tv for sometime now.Not to mention their 10 hours or so of of paid programming during the later evenings.-- I hardly even watch RTV anymore.--I'd much prefer to have Me-tv instead.

I guess the deal with NBC Universal ended. Maybe this will open up some of these shows to Me TV or Antenna TV?

Those shows you listed that they are now showing are the same ones that MY FAMILY CHANNEL is airing.

Movin On is on right now. I am happy about that. I haven't seen the show since it left the air.

Movin On is on right now. I am happy about that. I haven't seen the show since it left the air.

I haven`t seen Movin-on in Years. i`m watching it now also. My Local RTV station is same as CJ`s

Movin On is on right now. I am happy about that. I haven't seen the show since it left the air.
It's on here too.So they did change their line-up.

Where are yall getting the new schedules from? Kojak is usually on right now, but not today. All of the TV Guide listings have the old schedule.

OK nevermind, I've figured out that it's Zorro. I'm glad they have a new schedule. I enjoyed most of the shows on the old one, but it was time for a change.

Where are yall getting the new schedules from? Kojak is usually on right now, but not today. All of the TV Guide listings have the old schedule.

OK nevermind, I've figured out that it's Zorro. I'm glad they have a new schedule. I enjoyed most of the shows on the old one, but it was time for a change.
This isn't my RTV affiliate but it seems to be the schedule that they're airing around here.

http://wleptv.com/9-1/program-schedule/

Link (http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/2011/06/16/51942/rtn-parent-buys-78-tv-translators)


Henry Luken, head of RTN parent Luken Communications, says the purchase is the first step in a plan to acquire around 400 translators and low-power stations so that its affiliates will have ample bandwidth to broadcast Luken's 10 existing and planned multicasting networks.The seller of the translators is David Honig's Minority Media and Telecommunications Council. The price: $390,000.


Luken Communications, best known to broadcasters as the purveyor of Retro Television Network, is on a buying spree, seeking translators and low-power TV stations that it plans to make available to affiliates of its multicast networks so that they will have sufficient bandwidth to carry all 10 of Luken’s existing and planned multicasting networks.

“We want to make sure that they have adequate bandwidth to run all our free over-the-air networks,” says Luken principal and operating partner Henry Luken, of Chattanooga, Tenn.


Luken subsidiary Digital Networks LLC has made its first major purchase of translators, agreeing to purchase around 80 from the Minority Media and Telecommunications Council Inc. for $390,000, according to an FCC filing seeking approval of the deal.

MMTC, headed by David Honig, acquired the translators as a donation from Trinity Broadcasting Network last year.

Luken says that his goal is to amass 400 translators and low-power stations, mostly in small and medium markets where broadcast spectrum is tight. He says he envisions signing agreements with his affiliates under which they will run the translators and sell local advertising within their markets.

In markets where his affiliates are interested in the running the translators or where he has no affiliates, Luken says he is prepared to partner with non-broadcasters.

In addition to RTN, Luken now offers Tuff.TV, My Family TV and PBJ, a kids channel. He declined to identify the other networks in the works.

For the networks, Luken says that he is also actively shopping for programming libraries to fill the networks.

Luken says he understands that the translators come with no must-carry rights, but believes that cable systems will eventually pick up his channels because their telco rivals will and because a proliferation of over-the-air-only signals might encourage viewers to cancel their cable service.

"If we broadcast with enough quality content, what are the cable systems really going to do?"

Luken acknowledges that the translators are all analog, but he's prepared to invest in digital upgrades just as soon as the FCC clears the way.

This isn't my RTV affiliate but it seems to be the schedule that they're airing around here.

http://wleptv.com/9-1/program-schedule/
Thanks!

Movin' On, Route 66, Starsky & Hutch, and Police Story are worth the change, that's for sure, along with Black Sheep Squadron. I'll miss Alias Smith and Jones, but I saw most of the episodes with Pete Duel, so it's no big deal.

Yep, all of the NBC/Universal stuff is gone. Most of the newer stuff looks to be lower-profile programming and stuff like Cold Case, Da Vinci's Inquest, and....ugh....reality shows. Who really wants to see a reality show about sick children on a "retro television" network? Hunting? I guess they're desperate for programming. It appears that they are using a national schedule now.

"The Saint" is a British show. Interesting.

IIRC, Luken (owner of RTV) bought MyFamilyTV recently, or something like that. That may explain the programming overlap. IMO, they need to focus on making one strong network instead of trying to have a bunch of weaker ones.

That article says they're looking for programming libraries, so who knows. Of course, I'd love it if they got in touch with Proctor & Gamble to put some Guiding Light/As the World Turns reruns on their schedule. Probably won't get a whole lot of viewers, but I'd enjoy it while I could!

Hey look, it's Movin' On!! I guess they're airing the schedule off by an hour for each time zone.

Yep, all of the NBC/Universal stuff is gone. Most of the newer stuff looks to be lower-profile programming and stuff like Cold Case, Da Vinci's Inquest, and....ugh....reality shows. Who really wants to see a reality show about sick children on a "retro television" network? Hunting? I guess they're desperate for programming. It appears that they are using a national schedule now.

"The Saint" is a British show. Interesting.

IIRC, Luken (owner of RTV) bought MyFamilyTV recently, or something like that. That may explain the programming overlap. IMO, they need to focus on making one strong network instead of trying to have a bunch of weaker ones.


like some of the shows are from the Columbia Tri-star program provider. from what i look up on IMBD on some of the shows.

Yep, all of the NBC/Universal stuff is gone. Most of the newer stuff looks to be lower-profile programming and stuff like Cold Case, Da Vinci's Inquest, and....ugh....reality shows. Who really wants to see a reality show about sick children on a "retro television" network? Hunting? I guess they're desperate for programming. It appears that they are using a national schedule now.

"The Saint" is a British show. Interesting.

IIRC, Luken (owner of RTV) bought MyFamilyTV recently, or something like that. That may explain the programming overlap. IMO, they need to focus on making one strong network instead of trying to have a bunch of weaker ones.
Naked City is on right now. I've never seen this show even though I've heard of it. Some of the changes are good but yea I don't like all that reality and some of those new shows aren't classics. The Saint is a British show but it did air on NBC in the 1960's.

I just found a Station with the 3rd Quarter schedule for RTV

http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/programming/retro

Well, this is good news. I've been waiting patiently for RTV to put on some different stuff for ages now! I was so sick and tired of that 7pm-9pm run of Hulk, Knight Rider, and Simon & Simon! I'm anxious to try Naked City and Police Story, which are two shows I've heard a lot about but have never had the opportunity to watch. Also been a long time since I've seen Starsky and Hutch. And I love the Saint! Roger Moore was a way better Saint than he was a James Bond. And Route 66 is another one that I've never seen much of. Looking forward to sampling all these.

I just saw a promo during Naked City where they mentioned some of the new shows. Mostly stuff we already know about, but they also mentioned Highway to Heaven, so idk. Maybe the schedules are still specialized, but not as much as before.

I just saw a promo during Naked City where they mentioned some of the new shows. Mostly stuff we already know about, but they also mentioned Highway to Heaven, so idk. Maybe the schedules are still specialized, but not as much as before.The schedule posted doesn't include Zorro, so maybe they are customizing a little, I agree.

As for Highway to Heaven, that is slated for MyFamilyTV also. What are the differences between it and RTV going to be?! If I recall, staple programs on it were going to be Daniel Boone and Route 66 also. I wonder if they are planning to merge the two?

The schedule posted doesn't include Zorro, so maybe they are customizing a little, I agree.

As for Highway to Heaven, that is slated for MyFamilyTV also. What are the differences between it and RTV going to be?! If I recall, staple programs on it were going to be Daniel Boone and Route 66 also. I wonder if they are planning to merge the two?
Are you getting Zorro or The New Zorro. I'm getting The New Zorro which aired on The Family Channel in the 1990's. I'd rather the original.

The Zorro episode that aired here was in color, but it looked old, so I figure it was a colorized copy of the original B/W show.

MyFamilyTV is a substation (that we don't get on cable here) for one of our affiliates, and their classic TV stuff starts at 1pm CT. It's a little different each day, but it has I Married Joan, Life with Elizabeth, Celebrity Bowling, Roy Rogers, The Rifleman, Lassie, My Little Margie, Ozzie and Harriet, The Bill Cosby Show, The Trouble with Father, and Route 66. There's another block later on with Peter Gunn and Zorro, and Movin' On airs on Monday nights. Saturday has Stories of the Century (50s western), movies (probably old/public domain), The Bill Cosby Show, I Spy, DaVinci's Inquest. Sundays is entirely made up of the lifestyle-type stuff.

I wanted to ask, for any of yall who might have already seen Route 66 on RTV, was the picture sorta distorted? It seems like everything in the center of the screen is sort of squeezed. All of the heads are narrow.

If they are sharing shows with sister network My Family TV, it's probably The New Zorro, as they air it. I'll watch it tomorrow and check out 66.

http://www.myfamilytv.tv/schedule_new.htm

My Family TV and RTV overlap some but Family shows public domain stuff, some religious stuff and a couple of movies.

All right, I'm getting The Saint now instead of Daniel Boone, so yeah, the stations are still customizable.

It look like RTV maybe in process updating their affiliates programing schedule page as i just went to the rtv programing page and i click on a station schedule and i got a 404 not found.

I belive if RTV get rid of those Paid Programing (infocommericail during the over night hours) then that would free up some time slots for other classic tv programing.

So for the Starkey and Hutch show is a Columbia Tri star show and if they add Highway to Heaven that be a 20 century fox show.so look like Luken is getting few of the new shows from other program library's.

We will have FULL details on the blog tomorrow.

Just watched one of RTV's new ones, The Saint. This series was in black & white the first three seasons and color the last three. I've caught this show in syndication before over the years but every time they only seemed to run the color episodes. Even my local library with their great collection of TV dvds only had the color seasons. I was extremely pleased to discover tonight that they are showing the black and white episodes. Not only that, but they started with the very first episode. I'm crossing my fingers that they show all the black and whites before we get to the color.

Just watched one of RTV's new ones, The Saint. This series was in black & white the first three seasons and color the last three. I've caught this show in syndication before over the years but every time they only seemed to run the color episodes. Even my local library with their great collection of TV dvds only had the color seasons. I was extremely pleased to discover tonight that they are showing the black and white episodes. Not only that, but they started with the very first episode. I'm crossing my fingers that they show all the black and whites before we get to the color.
I hope they do. I remember when they started airing Dragnet. The first week, they showed the b&w episodes from the 1950's. After that they just showed the 1960's series that's been syndicated for years.

I hope they do. I remember when they started airing Dragnet. The first week, they showed the b&w episodes from the 1950's. After that they just showed the 1960's series that's been syndicated for years.


The B&W Dragnet is shown on my Local Christan station classic tv digital sub channel

I wanted to ask, for any of yall who might have already seen Route 66 on RTV, was the picture sorta distorted? It seems like everything in the center of the screen is sort of squeezed. All of the heads are narrow.
YES.The picture did not look right at all,hopefully they'll fix that.

I hope they do. I remember when they started airing Dragnet. The first week, they showed the b&w episodes from the 1950's. After that they just showed the 1960's series that's been syndicated for years.


Perhaps we'll get lucky with the Saint. Dragnet might have had something to do with the fact that it was basically two different series, with several years between the black white episodes and the color. This was not the case with the Saint.

Perhaps we'll get lucky with the Saint. Dragnet might have had something to do with the fact that it was basically two different series, with several years between the black white episodes and the color. This was not the case with the Saint.


a blog post now up

http://blog.sitcomsonline.com/2011/06/rtv-changes-schedule-loses-universal.html

and from the blog post it said it will be using the National schedule for all it affilates now unless the afflilate pre empt for something they own.

What cable company has RTV and/or METV ???

What cable company has RTV and/or METV ???


For RTV go here http://myretrotv.com/programming.html

for METV go here http://www.metvnetwork.com/metvnational.php type in your zip code

Thank you and it looks like I may have both well one is coming soon, thanks again.

Thank you and it looks like I may have both well one is coming soon, thanks again.

You`re welcome the station listing on RTV site maybe little out of date since some of it affiliates has switch to either METV or Antenna TV

RTV from Johnstown/Altoona PA has been replaced with METV :eek:

They moved it to another sub-channel.

I have a feeling RTV is going under. Some of the new shows are okay but there aren't many of them and the weekends are a mess now.

RTV is NOT going under - they are just trying out some different programing. They still have over 100 affilates, as well as sister networks MyFamilyTV and Tuff TV, plus Kid's channel PBJ is due to launch this year.

They are also buying 400 low powered stations and repeaters/transponders to set up a wider network.

I belive if RTV get rid of those Paid Programing (infocommericail during the over night hours) then that would free up some time slots for other classic tv programing.

So for the Starkey and Hutch show is a Columbia Tri star show and if they add Highway to Heaven that be a 20 century fox show.so look like Luken is getting few of the new shows from other program library's.

Those infomercials help pay the bills - not only nationally, but the local infomercials that are programed.

"Highway to Heaven" is not a 20th Century Fox show.

Yep, all of the NBC/Universal stuff is gone. Most of the newer stuff looks to be lower-profile programming and stuff like Cold Case, Da Vinci's Inquest, and....ugh....reality shows. Who really wants to see a reality show about sick children on a "retro television" network? Hunting? I guess they're desperate for programming. It appears that they are using a national schedule now.

"The Saint" is a British show. Interesting.

IIRC, Luken (owner of RTV) bought MyFamilyTV recently, or something like that. That may explain the programming overlap. IMO, they need to focus on making one strong network instead of trying to have a bunch of weaker ones.

I don't think RTV is "desperate" for programing - clearly they are trying something new - perhaps a dry run for another new channel?

"The Saint" is a Classic! Roger Moore, based on the novels (Which were the basis for the 1940's RKO Films) Was the first British Drama to air in Prime Time in America.

Most of the MyFamilyTV affiliates are in markets RTV isn't in, or have a smaller presence - so there was the advantage of buying it. Plus gets their foot in the door for new possible affiliates for RTV -as well as their upcoming PBJ & RTV2

RTV is NOT going under - they are just trying out some different programing. They still have over 100 affilates, as well as sister networks MyFamilyTV and Tuff TV, plus Kid's channel PBJ is due to launch this year.

They are also buying 400 low powered stations and repeaters/transponders to set up a wider network.
Well I hope you're right. We need all the classic tv networks we can get. I'm not really againsy the new acquisitions. Many of them are classic shows that deserve to be seen again. It's just that they dropped more shows than they gained.

Hopefully, this new schedule is just an interim situation. Maybe they need to cut spending for a while in order to be able to afford better options. It just seems that this schedule is low-budget, and I just can't see how those informational/educational/reality shows fit with a network that calls itself "Retro TV". The best bet is they are testing those programs out for their new sister networks. You got to start them somewhere to test them out.

Link (http://cincinnati.com/blogs/tv/2011/06/28/wkrp-tv-drops-magnum-rockford-a-team/)

Just days before low-power WKRP (Channel 25.1) gets classic TV competition from Memorable TV (Me TV) starting Friday on WLWT-TV’s Channel 5.2, the low-power station has lost some of its best shows.

Gone from the weekday lineup are “Rockford Files,” “Magnum P.I.,” “Knight Rider,” “A-Team,” “Kojak,” “Airwolf,” “Adam 12″ and “Dragnet.” The RetroTV network has lost rights to the shows, says Matt Gray, WKRP program director.

Instead Channel 25.1 is airing “”Peter Gunn” (12:30 p.m.), “Zorro” (1:30 p.m.), “Naked City” (3 p.m.), “Route 66″ (4 p.m.), ”Daniel Boone” (6-8 p.m.), “Starsky & Hutch” (8 p.m.) and “Police Story” (9 p.m.).

Gray says: “We were informed that NBC-Universal is keeping the rights to those shows in-house, and isn’t making those available to broadcast stations. The good news is the management at RTV has been very active in acquiring more product (“The Saint,” “Starsky & Hutch,” “Route 66,” “Highway to Heaven” starting 7/4), and is planning on making some more acquisitions throughout the remainder of the year.”

On Friday Channel 5.2 launches MeTV’s lineup with “M*A*S*H,” “Mary Tyler Moore,” “Dick Van Dyke,” “I Love Lucy,” “The Brady Bunch,” “Happy Days,” “Perry Mason,” “Cannon,” ”Streets of San Francisco,” “Gunsmoke,” “Bonanza,” ‘Big Valley,” the original “Hawaii 5-0″ and “The Honeymooners.”

Gray says: “We were informed that NBC-Universal is keeping the rights to those shows in-house, and isn’t making those available to broadcast stations.Does this mean that perhaps they didn't let RTV renew them? I guess NBCU won't allow any other networks (MeTV, Antenna TV) acquire them?

I would think plans for an RTV2 would be on hold now, but that's JMO...

Does this mean that perhaps they didn't let RTV renew them? I guess NBCU won't allow any other networks (MeTV, Antenna TV) acquire them?

I would think plans for an RTV2 would be on hold now, but that's JMO...

If that is case then the Comcast the new owners of NBC Universal has already started messing the NBC Universal Sydications arm. i wouldn`t be supries that Comcast is want to add the universal shows to it ondeman classic tv channel. the BET2 sister channel shows the A-team. and it would be nice if they would add some of the Universal shows drama show such as adam-12 & Dragnet and possiable Emergency! to it Seuth channel.

Those infomercials help pay the bills - not only nationally, but the local infomercials that are programed.

"Highway to Heaven" is not a 20th Century Fox show.


That is what IMDB.com listed. Go here and see for your self

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086730/companycredits

From IMDB.com

Production Companies
•Michael Landon Productions
•National Broadcasting Company (NBC)
Distributors
•National Broadcasting Company (NBC) (1984-1989) (USA) (TV) (original airing)
•20th Century Fox Television (1996-) (Yemen) (TV) (syndication)
•A&E Home Video (????) (USA) (DVD)
•Genesis Entertainment

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While everyone is ranting about RTV's changes, my biggest rant is the fact that our affiliate in Los Angeles, KFLA, is having issues with their antenna and is running on limited power. I will say that when we were able to get in the San Fernando Valley, I did at least see more of it's shows from the Universal Library and hopefully the new stations owned by Luken can be part of KFLA when it restores its full power. BTW, I thought RTV was getting Celebrity Bowling (1970s)

That is what IMDB.com listed. Go here and see for your self

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086730/companycredits

From IMDB.com

Production Companies
•Michael Landon Productions
•National Broadcasting Company (NBC)
Distributors
•National Broadcasting Company (NBC) (1984-1989) (USA) (TV) (original airing)
•20th Century Fox Television (1996-) (Yemen) (TV) (syndication)
•A&E Home Video (????) (USA) (DVD)
•Genesis Entertainment

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Highway to Heaven is distributed in the US by Michael Landon's estate.

RTV keeps skipping episodes of Movin' On,just like many other shows they have aired.--Yesterday they showed episode 5 of Movin' On,today they are showing episode 7. For anyone that does not have RTV,they should know that they only run a fraction of the episodes on all or most of their classic shows they air.For example if a show has 150-200 or more episodes like Adam-12 or Emergency!( just to name a few) they just keep repeating the same 20 or 30 episodes over and over again.It's good that they are airing shows like Route 66 and The Saint,but still......

Those infomercials help pay the bills - not only nationally, but the local infomercials that are programed.


Antenna and Me-tv do not air 10 hours or so of infomercials,and they(ATV and Me-tv) have alot more variety and run the shows complete and in order.If RTV wants to run informercials for an extra dollar or 2,ok,but there is no reason to run the other shows Clj listed that have absolutely NOTHING to do with classic television. I'm not trying to really bash RTV,because I support any station that airs classic television,but it seems to me RTV is a very poorly run and/or cheap outfit.

RTV keeps skipping episodes of Movin' On,just like many other shows they have aired.--Yesterday they showed episode 5 of Movin' On,today they are showing episode 7. For anyone that does not have RTV,they should know that they only run a fraction of the episodes on all or most of their classic shows they air.For example if a show has 150-200 or more episodes like Adam-12 or Emergency!( just to name a few) they just keep repeating the same 20 or 30 episodes over and over again.It's good that they are airing shows like Route 66 and The Saint,but still......
What episode number was the first one they showed Monday...the one with MacKenzie Phillips? I think Movin On only has 46 episodes. There's no reason RTV can't show all of them.

I did not see Mondays episode but I just looked up the episode of Movin' On that Mackenzie Phillips appeared on.She only appeared on 1 episode of Movin' On and that is the 3rd episode.So even on a show that only ran 46 episodes they are skipping many.Only a guess but they must only have the rights to a handful of most of the shows episodes they air.

I did not see Mondays episode but I just looked up the episode of Movin' On that Mackenzie Phillips appeared on.She only appeared on 1 episode of Movin' On and that is the 3rd episode.So even on a show that only ran 46 episodes they are skipping many.Only a guess but they must only have the rights to a handful of most of the shows episodes they air.
Well that sucks. I am grateful that they are showing Movin' On. I don't know if it was ever syndicated before but I haven't seen it since it originally aired. RTV is never going to grow though unless it can get all the episodes of a show or at least a huge majority of them. After they rerun the same 20 or 30 shows, people will just watch something else until they bring another show on.

I agree its great that theyre showing it,but I also agree RTV needs to get its act together.

Well, I can't speak for the shows mentioned, but in the last several months I watched RTV's entire run of Peter Gunn, Night Gallery, and Alfred Hitchcock Hour. While they did not show every episode of these series, they definitely showed the majority of them. Certainly more than 20 or 30 episodes. Perhaps there are some shows where they do this but not all.

^^^I guess it varies with each tv show, on some they may show more episodes than others. I know with shows like Marcus Welby and Adam 12 they did not show most of the episodes made. Edit: And today they are showing the 24th episode of Movin' On,so they jumped from showing episode 7 yesterday to episode 24 today.

Edit: And today they are showing the 24th episode of Movin' On,so they jumped from showing episode 7 yesterday to episode 24 today.


Well, with The Saint they started with the very first episode and are going in order so far. Ditto with Police Story and DaVinci's Inquest. I think this is also the case with Route 66. I only checked out the Monday episode and saw that they were starting with the first one, so I'm assuming they're going in order with that show as well. Like you said, I guess it depends on the particular series.

I wonder if the sporadic selection of episodes has anything to do with stuff that hasn't been transferred digitally or maybe it's just cheaper to get handfuls of episodes.

Either way, I wish they would pick out some short-lived series from Sony and air those in their entirety...

One in a Million (1980) with Shirley Hemphill
Checking In (Jeffersons spin-off)
Gloria (Sally Struthers)
9 to 5 (Sally Struthers)

Any other ideas?

I just had RTV on from 7-8 ET and they aired the first 2 episodes of The Naked City. It was the 1958-59 half hour version with John McIntire. I was shocked.

Hmm, this channel has no affiliate in Maryland.

Hmm, this channel has no affiliate in Maryland.
I don't know. I'm just over the MD border in PA. My RTV affiliate is in Harrisburg though.

I just had RTV on from 7-8 ET and they aired the first 2 episodes of The Naked City. It was the 1958-59 half hour version with John McIntire. I was shocked.

Yes they added that on June 27:

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/sitcomsonline/Bnuy/~3/MxRnc5Do2xw/rtv-changes-schedule-loses-universal.html

They did add some good classic drama shows.However it would have been nice if they also added some classic sitcoms.I don't think they have a single classic sitcom on their schedule now.

They did add some good classic drama shows.However it would have been nice if they also added some classic sitcoms.I don't think they have a single classic sitcom on their schedule now.

Since TVland seems to be getting rid of the few remaining dramas they have and going for an 'all comedy' lineup, perhaps RTV has decided to go the opposite way and provide a classic drama alternative.

For anyone interested, some of the Movin On episodes are clocking in at over 49 minutes, I'm guessing that's uncut, or pretty darn close. Some are for sure cut as they come in at barely 46 minutes.

Movin On is the only show I'm recording at the moment, but does anyone else know if any of the other series currently airing are uncut.

RTV was awesome when they started a couple of years back. So many of their shows were uncut, but that all changed after Luken took over.

It looks like RTV acquired He-Man.

I believe that these Retrostations are popping up like crazy. Soon, they'll probably be one that shows TV Shows from Disney, Fox, and Warner Bros....or all three, like a joint-station.

For anyone interested, some of the Movin On episodes are clocking in at over 49 minutes, I'm guessing that's uncut, or pretty darn close. Some are for sure cut as they come in at barely 46 minutes.

Movin On is the only show I'm recording at the moment, but does anyone else know if any of the other series currently airing are uncut.


I can't comment about some of the other shows because I have not been viewing RTV that much,I much prefer Antenna tv. However "Route 66" and "The Rifleman" are not edited much.They are NOT uncut though.For the classic shows they do air,they treat them pretty well. 'Some' episodes of Route 66 may be unedited,but I did not time them.

Just to ask, but the shows they have on now, were they popular back in the day? I mean Ive heard of Starksy and Hutch but was it very popular? What about I Spy, Daniel Boone? I ask this because if they were not popular back then, how would they be popular now? How would be able to get an audience? Wouldnt you show shows that people actually watched and remember?

Just to ask, but the shows they have on now, were they popular back in the day? I mean Ive heard of Starksy and Hutch but was it very popular? What about I Spy, Daniel Boone? I ask this because if they were not popular back then, how would they be popular now? How would be able to get an audience? Wouldnt you show shows that people actually watched and remember?
S & H was a top 20 show for it's first season. It was never ranked that high again but did enjoy a 4 year run and is fondly remembered by fan's of the 1970's. Daniel Boone was very popular in the 1960's. I remember watching it in syndication in the early 70's, The Rifleman was actually a top 10 hit. I Spy was a critical favorite back in the 1960's. Bill Cosby won a couple of Emmy Awards for his role. Naked City was also a critical favorite show back then. The problem is that Naked City has rarely been in reruns so I don't expect it to have many fans. Same as Peter Gunn. I've never seen it in reruns before. Route 66 was on N@N in the 1980's but other then that, I'm not sure how it did in syndication. Police Story was a critical favorite in the 1970's. I know A&E ran reruns of it for a time a long time ago. The Saint had a nice run in the 1960's but I don't think that's been seen much in recent years. So in answering your question S&H, The Rifleman and DB were top 20 hits. The rest had nice runs and the critics at the time did give them praise but for some reason they haven't been seen on tv much since they originally aired. It's hard to get a fan base when you're never seen.

Stuck in the 70s, thanks for the help. I really dont remember those shows being aired when I was growing up and Im 29. Like you said, hard to get a fan base for shows that are rarely on. What they should do is get maybe 3 or 4 really well named shows and build around them to get an audience because they are and will be getting trounced by ME-TV.

I'm 46 and I've never seen Naked City, Peter Gunn, The Adventures of Robin Hood, or The Saint on TV. I bought a few VHS tapes back in the 1990's of Peter Gunn and The Saint. That's the only time I ever saw them. I watched Movin On when it originally aired but until now, I haven't seen it since. S&H did have a good run on TNT in the 1990's and Comcast On-Demand did air it a few years ago so I've seen that over the years. I do remember PS on A&E. I forget what year it was though. It was quite awhile ago. I Spy aired on a local channel around here a few years ago and Daniel Boone actually airs on one of my locals right now. It's been on for a couple of years now. That's the first time I've seen it since I was about 6 years old. I've seen The Rifleman over the years.

It looks as if RTV has changed the shows they air. These are all gone from my local affiliate:

Marcus Welby, M.D.
Alfred Hitchcock Hour
Suspense Theater
A-Team
Knight Rider
Ironside
Airwolf
Kojak
Adam-12
Dragnet
Emergency!
McHale's Navy
Leave It To Beaver
Buck Rogers in the 25th Century

among many others. All of those shows and any references to them are gone from their website and the "Shows" page is blank.

I changed the colors in the quote to show that some of these have moved to
Antenna TV and Me-TV, effective next week and the week after.

Me-TV also appears to be picking up Route 66, and Antenna TV is picking up Alfred Hitchcock (although it's not clear if they are going to run both the half-hour and hour formats from their online schedules).

Seems to me that RTV is failing to renew its clearance contracts.

Since I'm new here, I'm not allowed to post the links to new "fall schedules". :(

Me-TV has acquired even more NBCUniversal shows, including some of those currently on Antenna:

http://www.metvnetwork.com/files/Me-TVnewShowAcquisitions-20thCBSNBCU.pdf

Since I'm new here, I'm not allowed to post the links to new "fall schedules".

Really ??? I did not know that ??
Is this in their forum rules somewhere ??

Really ??? I did not know that ??
Is this in their forum rules somewhere ??
in an effort to combat SPAM, they've upped the number of posts necessary before you can post links to the forum.

I don't know who still has RTV but I still do. According to Pav, some new shows are coming including The Real McCoys and The Joey Bishop Show. I'm glad I'll finally be able to see The Joey Bishop Show as that's one of the few 60's sitcoms I've never seen.

The Joey Bishop Show is actually pretty good. The second season has been available on DVD for years and I saw most of those. They're in color, were shot in front of a live audience at Desilu, and Abby Dalton is great as his wife. The first season, in black-and-white and with a different format has not been shown since 1962, as Joey Bishop hated that season and surpressed the episodes. The pilot aired as an episode of Make Room For Daddy, was included on the DVD set, and featured a very young Marlo Thomas in the supporting cast. I heard that Joey Bishop was a tyrant on the set and there were a lot of hackles up, but there is no sign of this in the finished product. Joe Flynn, who was a first-season co-star, claimed that Bishop had him fired from the show for getting too many laughs. This is all hearsay so who knows what the truth is.

Good for RTV for finally changing it up a bit!!! Finally, some new shows. Too bad, not many people will get to watch it.

I have RTV--I welcome these changes--although I don't know which of these programs will actually show up on my local RTV, since it does air a fair amount of locally produced public affairs programs. The programs they dropped are no loss, since Me-TV airs the majority of them anyway.

It was great to see at last Hopalong Cassidy and for an old TV series, the prints look great. Also good to see The Real McCoys again--it's still the same prints that TNN ran (with the SFM logo at the end). Looking forward to seeing Joey Bishop on Saturday!

It's weird that they picked a 90s syndicated version of Tarzan to rerun. It think the Ron Ely version would be more fitting on RTV--but this network has made some puzzling programming choices.

It was great to see at last Hopalong Cassidy and for an old TV series, the prints look great. Also good to see The Real McCoys again--it's still the same prints that TNN ran (with the SFM logo at the end). Looking forward to seeing Joey Bishop on Saturday!

It's weird that they picked a 90s syndicated version of Tarzan to rerun. It think the Ron Ely version would be more fitting on RTV--but this network has made some puzzling programming choices.
Yea that's the only thing I didn't care for. I haven't seen the Ron Ely Tarzan series since the 70's. I would have rather seen the classic Zorro series rather than the new one too so I guess I shouldn't be shocked about Tarzan. It's the first time I saw Hopalong Cassidy too and I thought it was great. The Real McCoys have always been a favorite of mine.

Bad news for me, I've had RTV for several years now, but starting next week my local channel will be carrying one of those cursed "lifestyle" crap channels, looks like free antenna TV will be turning into just as big a waste of time as cable has. How many of these lousy health/food/house/living shows do we need? One was too much for me. Luckily I still have Antenna TV, but we still don't have Me-TV. Imagine choosing a lifestyle channel over Me-TV!! Just who are these TV station managers?

^ I understand that!! My local CBS chose for its first subchannel recently LWN (Live Well Network) but a lot of it is informercials. What a waste! It would have been a good opportunity for Antenna TV to finally find a footing in my area.

I've never quite understood this whole "sub-channel" thing. What is it?

Digital subchannels... A tv station's main channel is now (example) 3.1 Each station is allowed up to 3 additional subchannels for programming so 3.2 can be a CW affil, 3.3 can be a local weather/news service and 3.4 can be a Me-TV affil.

I just watched 2 episodes of The Joey Bishop Show. I liked it pretty much. I would have liked it better if it was from season 1. lol Joey was very funny and Abby Dalton is a doll. I think Joe Besser might have stole the show especially the second episode. He was much better in this show than he was on The 3 Stooges.

You won't see season 1--probably not ever. Joey Bishop hated the first season's format and ordered that those episodes to NEVER be included in the syndication package and I'm sure the estate has probably upheld his decision. I watched these episodes years ago on TV Land and enjoyed them then. To me, the show has a Dick Van Dyke Show like feel. Joe Besser is a scream, although he does not appear in the final CBS season (the black and white episodes). Also both of Abby Dalton's real life pregnancies were written into the show--it certainly added a new level to the plotlines.

You won't see season 1--probably not ever. Joey Bishop hated the first season's format and ordered that those episodes to NEVER be included in the syndication package and I'm sure the estate has probably upheld his decision. I watched these episodes years ago on TV Land and enjoyed them then. To me, the show has a Dick Van Dyke Show like feel. Joe Besser is a scream, although he does not appear in the final CBS season (the black and white episodes). Also both of Abby Dalton's real life pregnancies were written into the show--it certainly added a new level to the plotlines.
That is too bad. I would love to see it just to see a young Marlo Thomas . lol Yea it does sort of have a Dick Van Dyke quality about it. If any show deserved to have a season colorized it was probably this show. It's probably why it wasn't syndicated much. I don't remember it being syndicated at all where I lived when I was growing up.

It is sort of like Danny Thomas stating that the first three seasons of Make Room for Daddy are to be never syndicated (although his reasons from what I gather were to ensure Jean Hagen never got residuals, because he was furious at her for quitting the show) and the estate has honored his request--it is also a shame! I never saw Joey Bishop in reruns until the TV Land run. In a way it kind of makes sense not to see season 1--since it has no connection storywise to the rest of the series. Season 2, episode 1 restarts the series from scratch with no previous mention of Joey Barnes, reporter. Right off the bat, he is Joey Barnes, successful late night TV host and he is newly married (Abby and her character were not in season 1).

I vaguely remember watching 'The Joey Bishop' show when it originally aired, mostly the ones with Abby Dalton.

Was so happy when surfing around to see RTV was going to be airing the show, and watched 2 episodes this evening and really enjoyed viewing them.

The kicker :mad: our affiliate is no longer going to show RTV and is going over to that Live Well Network crap :rolleyes:

I enjoy watching the shows from my youth and revisiting them and liked RTV for that, a great place to watch these retro tv programs...but alas, no more in my area....and another set of 'talk/food/health' programming...ugh

I vaguely remember watching 'The Joey Bishop' show when it originally aired, mostly the ones with Abby Dalton.

Was so happy when surfing around to see RTV was going to be airing the show, and watched 2 episodes this evening and really enjoyed viewing them.

The kicker :mad: our affiliate is no longer going to show RTV and is going over to that Live Well Network crap :rolleyes:

I enjoy watching the shows from my youth and revisiting them and liked RTV for that, a great place to watch these retro tv programs...but alas, no more in my area....and another set of 'talk/food/health' programming...ugh
'talk/food/health' programming...next to reality tv, the worse kind of television.

'talk/food/health' programming...next to reality tv, the worse kind of television.

Yeah those "lifestyle" channels are a waste of broadcast signal. Every once in a while I'll glance at the Ion Life schedule just for a laugh. It is nothing but endless blocks of throwaway programming with one of the following models: (a) uninspired dull host vaguely instructing/documenting the banalities of everyday living with the most common sense ("you can save money by buying store brand foods!" like its a big secret) or (b) overly hammy annoying host vaguely instructing/documenting the most useless projects ("you can turn your audio cassettes into cute little business card holders" like anybody would seriously do that).

I guess there are still people who don't know how to use google if they ever wanted to know such things.

If I want to watch cooking, etc, I turn to Create TV, a PBS digital channel. As for LWN--that is really ugh. I still can't believe my CBS affiliate chose this as its first subchannel.

Yes, all I got to see were 2 episodes of J. Bishop Show and the Colgate Hour w/Dean & Jerry. The next day the RTV channel switched to the cursed LWN lifetime crapola waste of space channel. Just when RTV was FINALLY beginning to change it's schedule for the better my local channel cancels it and replaces it with lifestyle crap. I hate these channels nowadays. At least I still have Antenna TV, still no ME-TV in my area either. I cancelled my cable 5 1/2 years ago, cable channels today are not only un-watchable they charge you $70 a month to not watch their channels. At least free tv doesn't charge you to not watch their crap channels.

I cancelled my cable 5 1/2 years ago, cable channels today are not only un-watchable they charge you $70 a month to not watch their channels. At least free tv doesn't charge you to not watch their crap channels.

My sentiments EXACTLY. I may complain about the vast wasteland that encompasses nearly all television these days but I'm also not foolish enough to pay a bunch of bad business crooks $100+ a month.

I had METV, but today i;m getting RTV (WSAH), I hope this is a mistake, I rather have ME-TV

ME-TV came back half way though the Bill Cosby Show

^Huh? is the affiliate sharing time between two networks?

I actually looked up to see what shows RTV can show with there agreement. I believe RTV has an agreement with Sony Pictures Television, according to Wikipedia, so take it for what its worth. Some shows include, Bewitched, TJ Hooker, Maude, All In the Family, Burns and Allen, Whats Happening, Family and My Two Dads. I mean I would try to get the rights to those shows ASAP. If they waste any more time then RTV might not exist any more, which would be sad.

I actually looked up to see what shows RTV can show with there agreement. I believe RTV has an agreement with Sony Pictures Television, according to Wikipedia, so take it for what its worth. Some shows include, Bewitched, TJ Hooker, Maude, All In the Family, Burns and Allen, Whats Happening, Family and My Two Dads. I mean I would try to get the rights to those shows ASAP. If they waste any more time then RTV might not exist any more, which would be sad.

While it would be great to see them acquire the likes of Bewitched and Maude, don't count on it. They may have a deal for Sony shows but this network has evidently turned into a low-rent operation that can't/won't afford the higher pricetags those shows likely command. They simply weren't aggressive enough in licensing like MeTV and AntennaTV and then let the schedule grow stagnant on top of that. It's really no wonder affiliates have dropped RTV left and right.

Thats a good point but the very fact that they did create a channel means that they do have some money. I mean they have affiliates in almost all 50 states. Maybe 3 or 4 states dont have it.

Thats a good point but the very fact that they did create a channel means that they do have some money. I mean they have affiliates in almost all 50 states. Maybe 3 or 4 states dont have it.

Well they pretty much had no choice but to go to independent low power affiliates if they wanted to remain in operation. In 2012 television terms, low power stations are basically the bottom of the barrel in both finances and mass appeal. I guess what they are doing is oddly commendable. Instead of totally folding like many outfits would, they quickly modified their business model for a new venue. It's actually unprecedented and they do deserve some credit for that. But in reality going to mostly indie affiliates is taking 2 steps backwards.

RTV just needs to merge with Antenna or Me and be done with it.
and FWIW, i've been told that Bewitched and Jeannie are going to be on Antenna in 2013.

RTV just needs to merge with Antenna or Me and be done with it.
and FWIW, i've been told that Bewitched and Jeannie are going to be on Antenna in 2013.

Considering RTV's owner Luken is such a small company (50 employees if wikipedia is to be believed) I could definitely see a merger of sorts. If the much larger Tribune or Weigel, who own AntennaTV and MeTV respectively, would outright buy the network the most logical thing would be to (1) scrap the RTV brand altogether (2) roll RTV's current licenses in with their existing licenses and (3) offer AntennaTV or MeTV to existing affiliates as a replacement for RTV.

If I were Weigel or Tribune, right now would be an ideal time to make Luken an offer for RTV. Luken has apparently lost interest in the network considering they have a plethora of other digital subchannels and are probably focused on the relaunch of TNN in a couple months. Besides, the best way to eliminate competition is to buy them out.

Considering RTV's owner Luken is such a small company (50 employees if wikipedia is to be believed) I could definitely see a merger of sorts. If the much larger Tribune or Weigel, who own AntennaTV and MeTV respectively, would outright buy the network the most logical thing would be to (1) scrap the RTV brand altogether (2) roll RTV's current licenses in with their existing licenses and (3) offer AntennaTV or MeTV to existing affiliates as a replacement for RTV.

If I were Weigel or Tribune, right now would be an ideal time to make Luken an offer for RTV. Luken has apparently lost interest in the network considering they have a plethora of other digital subchannels and are probably focused on the relaunch of TNN in a couple months. Besides, the best way to eliminate competition is to buy them out.

Exactly! As it is, we have a healthy two network competition for the retro audience (I'm not sure if you can count This-TV in this mix since it is mainly movies) and RTV just isn't thriving, in fact it's downsizing.

Maybe Luken will just use existing RTV affils along with new signups to relaunch TNN.

I noticed one person saying they are losing/lost their RTV Affiliate.

If you have a PC hooked up to your PC or something you can watch it online.

http;//www.justin.tv/kvhc
http://www.justin.tv/fhogden
http://tvchannel19.com

Just remember as 2 are Texas and one is Florida, they are all going off Eastern Time, so adjust your viewing as needed.

I just hope all episodes of Joey Bishop air before they take it off their channel.

Two eps only every Saturday are going to take a while to air.

I wish they would move it to weekday schedule.

I noticed one person saying they are losing/lost their RTV Affiliate.

If you have a PC hooked up to your PC or something you can watch it online.

http;//www.justin.tv/kvhc
http://www.justin.tv/fhogden
http://tvchannel19.com

Just remember as 2 are Texas and one is Florida, they are all going off Eastern Time, so adjust your viewing as needed.

I just hope all episodes of Joey Bishop air before they take it off their channel.

Two eps only every Saturday are going to take a while to air.

I wish they would move it to weekday schedule.

Are there any online TV channels on Justin TV or elsewhere where you can watch Me-TV or Antenna TV? I can't find them anywhere!

Don't know why RTV is showing some non classic programming. Been hoping ME-TV would come to the area, but the latest sub channels added were TNN, ishop & that crappy LWN. :mad:

They show non-classic because basically all the classic libraries have been bought by Me or Antenna. Warner is the lone holdout for broadcast syndication.