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Buster2
05-18-2011, 06:56 PM
This is kind of off topic but has anyone seen the Lifetime series "Vanished"? The series is about people who have vanished and Beth Holloway is the host. Anyway, this Monday's episode (Ithink it's Monday's episode) is about Amy Bradley, the girl who vanished from the cruise ship. The preview said Beth may have a new lead on the case. Maybe we'll see some old Unsolved Mysteries cases on this show, hopefully leading to solving some.

WishfulDreamer
05-18-2011, 07:55 PM
That would be wonderful for them to give cold cases new coverage! I hope they include the brothel lead and photo lead; they may not be Amy, but they could be and these are the biggest updates in years. Hopefully they will do the same to many UM cases as well.

Buster2
05-19-2011, 09:22 AM
I think they are going to. I saw the photo on the previews that they think may be Amy so I believe they will cover it.

rts29803
05-19-2011, 11:25 AM
I've seen the first 2 episodes and thought both were good......the McStay case is one baffling mystery for sure and I'm glad to see it is getting media attention

crystaldawn
05-19-2011, 05:29 PM
I've watched it. I thought it was pretty good but not as interesting as "Disappeared". Both shows seem to be profiling a lot of the same cases.

Buster2
05-19-2011, 06:12 PM
I've seen the first episode, taped the second and am going to watch it tomorrow night. There is another show "Missing" coming on A&E the last of the month. What station and time does "Disappeared" come on?

TracyLynnS
05-19-2011, 07:13 PM
I think Disappeared is an ID (Investigation Discovery) channel program. I found their website here: http://investigation.discovery.com/tv/disappeared/ They have a "channel finder" feature in the upper right corner of the page.

I haven't watched Vanished yet, but I've seen a few of the Disappeared episodes. I thought they were very interesting.

I had DirecTV for 11 years and had all the channels memorized, then last month, hubby decided we needed to switch to Comcast cable, because it's cheaper.

Now I can't find a darn thing on TV! lol I'll be glad when I get their channels memorized. I can't even find the reruns of UM without digging through the huge channel guide. By the time I finally find the show, it's over. :P

nohwheregirl
05-19-2011, 09:21 PM
I haven't seen it, but it looks like Lifetime is posting full episodes on their website. Yay!

Buster2
05-20-2011, 04:26 PM
I'll check out the Lifetime website, too!

Zlatko
05-20-2011, 07:47 PM
Here's some more good news. In two weeks, the show will be featuring the Ashley Freeman and Laura Bible case.

Set your VCRs or DVRs. :D

With shows like Disappeared, Missing, and Vanished popping up the past two years, perhaps unsolved true crime shows will become the norm again. We need a new show focusing on unsolved murders.

karenjanee
05-20-2011, 10:06 PM
Darn it! Tried the lifetime website and the show wont load up.
I also can't get lifetime in Canada. :( I miss Lifetime, with all the cable stations we get from the US, I'm surprised we can't get that one...

Buster2
05-24-2011, 11:13 AM
Did anyone see "Vanished" last night? What a disturbing story. It's horrible that you can't go on a cruise without something like this happening. I hope with all the new coverage she will come home soon. What do you guys think? Do you think the sightings with the older man and the woman in the bathroom were legitimate? Maybe her brother and father should have called in the police to double check that white van.

Zlatko
05-24-2011, 12:25 PM
Did anyone see "Vanished" last night? What a disturbing story. It's horrible that you can't go on a cruise without something like this happening. I hope with all the new coverage she will come home soon. What do you guys think? Do you think the sightings with the older man and the woman in the bathroom were legitimate? Maybe her brother and father should have called in the police to double check that white van.It's very possible the sightings are legitimate but one always has to be skeptical of eyewitness reports. Sadly, some people will do anything for a bit of public attention.

I still find it strange that someone could be abducted on such a large ship. If she was abducted, it'd be difficult to get her off the ship without being noticed. IMO, there's a chance that Amy was intoxicated and accidentally fell overboard.

Buster2
05-24-2011, 09:51 PM
I was leaning toward the fallen overboard theory, also, when I saw this on Unsolved Mysteries. She could have become disoriented when she woke up and accidentally went in the wrong direction toward the railing. Then I saw the picture. It does look uncannily like her. I guess we'll never know at this point.

Fukiyama
05-28-2011, 12:25 PM
At the thread on Amy Bradley at the Websleuths forum, there is a bit of discussion on if she could have fallen overboard. The general consensus was that unless she was trying to commit suicide and climbed up on the railing, with the height of cruise ship railings, it is almost impossible to unintentionally fall overboard.

I watched the Vanished episode and learned a lot of details that I didn't know before. The fact that the photos found online were examined by a forensic detective who was pretty sure they were of Amy was new to me.

As to how she got off the ship, I believe she was lured off and then found out it wasn't what she was expecting. She tried to contact her family (asking the cab driver about a telephone), but was taken.

Unfortunately, given the length of time since her disappearance, I can only assume that Amy outlived her usefulness to those holding her and she was eliminated.

RobinW
05-28-2011, 01:19 PM
In case you've never visited this website, this is a VERY interesting blog from a filmmaker who was shooting a promotional video on the same cruise where Amy went missing and noticed a lot of suspicious goings-on:
http://chrisfenwick.com/home/2010/3/1/amy-bradley-is-missing.html

He's just recently posted up some actual footage he shot at the disco of Amy dancing with the mysterious bass player (nicknamed "Yellow"). It's VERY eerie to watch since this is from only a few hours before Amy went missing and is the last known footage of her.

Zlatko
05-28-2011, 03:40 PM
Thanks for the link.

One observation: on Vanished, they had said that Amy's pictures on the ship had 'mysteriously' disappeared. In the link, Chris Fenwick states that a cruise member named Steve deleted all of Amy's pictures. Talk about shady as hell...

bugnpinky
05-28-2011, 06:06 PM
At the thread on Amy Bradley at the Websleuths forum, there is a bit of discussion on if she could have fallen overboard. The general consensus was that unless she was trying to commit suicide and climbed up on the railing, with the height of cruise ship railings, it is almost impossible to unintentionally fall overboard.

I watched the Vanished episode and learned a lot of details that I didn't know before. The fact that the photos found online were examined by a forensic detective who was pretty sure they were of Amy was new to me.

As to how she got off the ship, I believe she was lured off and then found out it wasn't what she was expecting. She tried to contact her family (asking the cab driver about a telephone), but was taken.

Unfortunately, given the length of time since her disappearance, I can only assume that Amy outlived her usefulness to those holding her and she was eliminated.
I definitely think this is what happened. Not that my opinion matters much, but with what was shown on the two episodes...I'm thinking this is exactly what happened.

TheCars1986
05-28-2011, 08:53 PM
I enjoy the new "Vanished" series. It's very entertaining and is almost like a "new" UM. I do think they spent way too much time focusing on the whole Amy Bradley prostitution angle far more than necessary. They pretty much stated in the episode that she was still alive and being sold into slavery, without any concrete evidence. The family obviously holds on to hope that she's still alive but they won't even entertain the idea that she either fell overboard accidentally or committed suicide. IMHO there's only three things that could have happened. She either fell overboard, committed suicide, or the ship's bass player had something to do with her death. I do not believe for one second that she's still alive and came in contact with all of these people and did not scream for help. There were three eyewitnesses that stated they saw her in very public places (a beach, a brothel, and a shopping center) and not once did she reach out for anyone to help you. I just don't see how an adult woman would be willing to be sold into slavery, and when she has the perfect opportunity to obtain help she doesn't do so. I think she's dead, unfortunately.

Fukiyama
05-29-2011, 11:01 AM
There were three eyewitnesses that stated they saw her in very public places (a beach, a brothel, and a shopping center) and not once did she reach out for anyone to help you. I just don't see how an adult woman would be willing to be sold into slavery, and when she has the perfect opportunity to obtain help she doesn't do so.
I think the eyewitnesses' credibility can be questioned, but their accounts are pretty clear. At the beach, Amy tried to approach the diver, but was taken away by the guys escorting her. In the brothel, she actually made contact with the Navy officer and told him her name and that she needed help before her handlers caught up with her and led her away. Her silence at the department store restroom was due to the guys outside waiting for her to finish and come out and probably due as well to the fact she was a submissive captive by then (years and years after her having gone missing). She did tell the lady though that her name was Amy and she was from Virginia.

TheCars1986
05-29-2011, 01:08 PM
I think the eyewitnesses' credibility can be questioned, but their accounts are pretty clear. At the beach, Amy tried to approach the diver, but was taken away by the guys escorting her. In the brothel, she actually made contact with the Navy officer and told him her name and that she needed help before her handlers caught up with her and led her away. Her silence at the department store restroom was due to the guys outside waiting for her to finish and come out and probably due as well to the fact she was a submissive captive by then (years and years after her having gone missing). She did tell the lady though that her name was Amy and she was from Virginia.

Yes but my point was, while on the beach why not run from her captors (she allegedly did get a considerable distance away from her captors to approach the diver) and scream for help? The lady in the picture from the brothel website does not look anything like Amy IMO. Sure you can squint and see a resemblence, but you can do that with just about any photograph that bares even the most remote resemblence to someone, and they will look to be the same person. Just how exactly did Amy get forced into prostitution anyway? She was last seen on the cruise ship, alive. She was never seen by anyone (on the dates of the cruise) on any of the islands. So how exactly was she taken from the ship without anyone noticing, or her putting up any fight? Seems like an ideal time to put up a fight would be when someone's forcing you off of the ship with thousands of other people present. Not to mention that crew members knew before they docked that Amy was missing, so obviously she could have reached out to one of them as well fairly easily when leaving the ship.

Orange_Sody_84
05-29-2011, 02:42 PM
Thanks for the heads up! it's set on my DVR. I've always been interested in the Freeman and Bible case. my heart goes out to everyone involved. :/ when someone in the segment said "If they were ever found I would take them both in and raise them as my daughters" it just killed me. :/ I hope it will be solved soon. the segment has always scared me.