View Full Version : Cowboys is the best 1-4 team in NFL history
TVFactFan 10-17-2010, 07:28 PM Damm, bad breaks and penalties cause the team and I'm not going to say the season is over yet but it's getting close. Did everything right but special teams was a killer.
Who would have thought two weeks before Halloween the Cowboys would be 1-4 and the Eagles 4-2 without Mcnabb?
Mr. Television 10-17-2010, 07:35 PM It's over. I have no confidence in this team any more. After every big play they make, I look for a penalty because I know it's coming. They do have talent and that's what's frustrating. If they were bad then you could rebuild but I don't know where you go with this bunch of bozo's. They have to change coaches. There is no other way. You can't get rid of the whole team. These group of Cowboys have been the most disappointing group that I've rooted for since I became a Cowboy fan in 1975. That includes the Danny White teams. I just don't see any heart or fire in them. They do stupid things all the time to beat themselves. I don't know what else to say.
TVFactFan 10-17-2010, 07:41 PM It's over. I have no confidence in this team any more. After every big play they make, I look for a penalty because I know it's coming. They do have talent and that's what's frustrating. If they were bad then you could rebuild but I don't know where you go with this bunch of bozo's. They have to change coaches. There is no other way. You can't get rid of the whole team. These group of Cowboys have been the most disappointing group that I've rooted for since I became a Cowboy fan in 1975. That includes the Danny White teams. I just don't see any heart or fire in them. They do stupid things all the time to beat themselves. I don't know what else to say.
And why wouldn't wade go for it on 4th and 5 with 2:30 left? what a stupid mutherF*
Big C 10-17-2010, 07:45 PM Wade Phillips is a dead coach walking
Mr. Television 10-17-2010, 07:45 PM And why wouldn't wade go for it on 4th and 5 with 2:30 left? what a stupid mutherF*
Yea a lot of fans on the Zone were talking about that. The game was over regardless.
TVFactFan 10-17-2010, 07:51 PM Yea a lot of fans on the Zone were talking about that. The game was over regardless.
Also, the guy who returned the punt when they did get the ball back under 30 seconds, why the F** would he try and get a lot of yds when they only a little bit of time left to drive down the field?? That d*ckhead ate up PRECIOUS SECS off the clock-lol
Mr. Television 10-17-2010, 08:24 PM Jerry just said that Wade is safe. :rolleyes:
dlemond 10-17-2010, 08:29 PM Jerry just said that Wade is safe. :rolleyes:
Was waiting for that.
You know what's not safe Jerry?
Anyone believing in the Cowboys or you.
Buying your tickets, your merchandise.
I'm drawing a line in the sand.
I will not root for this team if Wade Phillips is back as head coach next year.
TVFactFan 10-17-2010, 08:32 PM Jerry just said that Wade is safe. :rolleyes:
I guess he is saying SAFE for now since the season is now over and they can win 3 in a row to go 4-4. Until the season is officially over, then wade's job is over-lol
dlemond 10-17-2010, 08:51 PM I guess he is saying SAFE for now since the season is now over and they can win 3 in a row to go 4-4. Until the season is officially over, then wade's job is over-lol
You never know - if by some miracle of default they end up in the playoffs and win a game (yeah, right!) Jones could end up bringing him back.
I know that is just silly, but stranger things have happened.
I always worried that one day Jerry Jones would go wacko control stupid like Al Davis. If he doesn't make a commitment next year to let someone actually run the team then we are just rooting for the Texas Raiders.
Mr. Television 10-17-2010, 09:10 PM I guess he is saying SAFE for now since the season is now over and they can win 3 in a row to go 4-4. Until the season is officially over, then wade's job is over-lol
I think the Giants are going to blow us out next week. The Cowboys always have a hard time beating them anyway.
Mr. Television 10-17-2010, 09:14 PM Was waiting for that.
You know what's not safe Jerry?
Anyone believing in the Cowboys or you.
Buying your tickets, your merchandise.
I'm drawing a line in the sand.
I will not root for this team if Wade Phillips is back as head coach next year.
Jerry's going to have to do something at the end of the year or he'll lose the fans. I haven't rooted for the Cowboys to tank a season since 1988 when I was rooting for them to lose so we could get Troy Aikman.
TVFactFan 10-17-2010, 09:22 PM Was waiting for that.
You know what's not safe Jerry?
Anyone believing in the Cowboys or you.
Buying your tickets, your merchandise.
I'm drawing a line in the sand.
I will not root for this team if Wade Phillips is back as head coach next year.
I didn't even see the kickoff return by the vikings because I thought it was sill halftime-lol I had on the Redzone Channel and they showed it
Big C 10-17-2010, 09:27 PM I think the Giants are going to blow us out next week. The Cowboys always have a hard time beating them anyway.
Given the Giants' wild inconsistency at times in recent years, I wouldn't call that a lock.
Mr. Television 10-17-2010, 09:30 PM Given the Giants' wild inconsistency at times in recent years, I wouldn't call that a lock.
I would against the Cowboys though. Even last year we got swept by them.
Mr. Television 10-17-2010, 10:21 PM I found this article about Wade when he was fired by Buffalo. It sounds sort of familiar.
http://www.billsdaily.com/articles/2001/phillips.html
Loyalty Costs Phillips His Job
Refusal to fire inept assistants seals Phillips' fate.
by Steve Saslow
January 8, 2001
The official reason Wade Phillips was let go by the Bills is because he refused to fire special teams coach Ronnie Jones. That will be a big part of it, but the reality is, there were many other problems involving his coaching. The loyalty he has to his coaching staff is admirable, but sometimes you have to look past your overly optimistic glow and see people for what they are.
Coaches Joe Pendry, Carl Mauck, and Ronnie Jones were the coaches most likely to be on the firing squad. They may have been pals with Phillips and good coaches but they weren't getting through to the players and that is the number one job of a coach. The offense and special teams were inept this year and changes had to occur. The schemes weren't matching players' talents and when that is the case the schemes need to change. If Phillips was able to stand on his record alone he would not have been fired but his incessant loyalty to his staff was just the event that was the last straw in his firing, but definitely not the only issue.
Despite never having a losing season in Buffalo and having the reputation as a players coach that the team really seemed to like, he struggled with many facets of the job. His handling of the quarterback controversy was terrible and it tore the team apart in the locker room. A team can be fully behind a coach, but if his decisions tear the players apart a team doesn't have a chance to succeed. Phillips decision to go back to Rob Johnson didn't make him a favorite of the legion of Doug Flutie fans. The fans and many in the media were calling for Phillips head because of this situation alone.
Phillips being a players coach perceived that he lacked discipline of the players and that may have had an effect on the team. On the field, penalties were way up this year and the team was very inconsistent in some games. If Phillips was more disciplined the players may have shown up more. Off the field, the recent comments by Steve Christie regarding the locker room split over the QB controversy also shows that Phillips didn't have control over his players.
Phillips also made some decisions during games that made people scratch their heads. Phillips never seemed to have a handle on time management, constantly going to the locker room with timeouts in his pocket and not knowing how to handle the end of games. He was very indecisive at times arguing with Flutie about what to do in critical times of the game. A perfect example of this was the first New England game where the Bills didn't know if they wanted to go for the win or the tie.
Another nail in his coffin was his comments before the Indianapolis game that both teams were out of it. The Colts won the game and went on to the playoffs the Bills lost four straight.
Despite these shortcoming, Phillips 29-19 record over three years was the best in Bills history for a new coach and a case could have been made for him to stay. The volatile situation in the front office also came into play as the new general manager has a right to bring in his own guy which could have left Phillips out in the cold even if he decided to let some of his coaches go. So some might say he did the right thing sticking by his coaches. Wilson also did the right thing by letting go of a coach that refused to deal with the shortcomings of his staff. Phillips is going out for the same reason Marv Levy did, by refusing to make changes. The difference is Levy went off with a classy ceremony and Phillips was just dumped.
TVFactFan 10-17-2010, 10:30 PM I found this article about Wade when he was fired by Buffalo. It sounds sort of familiar.
http://www.billsdaily.com/articles/2001/phillips.html
Loyalty Costs Phillips His Job
Refusal to fire inept assistants seals Phillips' fate.
by Steve Saslow
January 8, 2001
The official reason Wade Phillips was let go by the Bills is because he refused to fire special teams coach Ronnie Jones. That will be a big part of it, but the reality is, there were many other problems involving his coaching. The loyalty he has to his coaching staff is admirable, but sometimes you have to look past your overly optimistic glow and see people for what they are.
Coaches Joe Pendry, Carl Mauck, and Ronnie Jones were the coaches most likely to be on the firing squad. They may have been pals with Phillips and good coaches but they weren't getting through to the players and that is the number one job of a coach. The offense and special teams were inept this year and changes had to occur. The schemes weren't matching players' talents and when that is the case the schemes need to change. If Phillips was able to stand on his record alone he would not have been fired but his incessant loyalty to his staff was just the event that was the last straw in his firing, but definitely not the only issue.
Despite never having a losing season in Buffalo and having the reputation as a players coach that the team really seemed to like, he struggled with many facets of the job. His handling of the quarterback controversy was terrible and it tore the team apart in the locker room. A team can be fully behind a coach, but if his decisions tear the players apart a team doesn't have a chance to succeed. Phillips decision to go back to Rob Johnson didn't make him a favorite of the legion of Doug Flutie fans. The fans and many in the media were calling for Phillips head because of this situation alone.
Phillips being a players coach perceived that he lacked discipline of the players and that may have had an effect on the team. On the field, penalties were way up this year and the team was very inconsistent in some games. If Phillips was more disciplined the players may have shown up more. Off the field, the recent comments by Steve Christie regarding the locker room split over the QB controversy also shows that Phillips didn't have control over his players.
Phillips also made some decisions during games that made people scratch their heads. Phillips never seemed to have a handle on time management, constantly going to the locker room with timeouts in his pocket and not knowing how to handle the end of games. He was very indecisive at times arguing with Flutie about what to do in critical times of the game. A perfect example of this was the first New England game where the Bills didn't know if they wanted to go for the win or the tie.
Another nail in his coffin was his comments before the Indianapolis game that both teams were out of it. The Colts won the game and went on to the playoffs the Bills lost four straight.
Despite these shortcoming, Phillips 29-19 record over three years was the best in Bills history for a new coach and a case could have been made for him to stay. The volatile situation in the front office also came into play as the new general manager has a right to bring in his own guy which could have left Phillips out in the cold even if he decided to let some of his coaches go. So some might say he did the right thing sticking by his coaches. Wilson also did the right thing by letting go of a coach that refused to deal with the shortcomings of his staff. Phillips is going out for the same reason Marv Levy did, by refusing to make changes. The difference is Levy went off with a classy ceremony and Phillips was just dumped.
Wait, the special teams coach who was on the sideline during the music city miracle was NOT FIRED AFTER THAT GAME????????????????????
Mr. Television 10-17-2010, 10:32 PM Wait, the special teams coach who was on the sideline during the music city miracle was NOT FIRED AFTER THAT GAME????????????????????
I guess not and the Cowboys special teams are awful too. lol
TVFactFan 10-17-2010, 10:35 PM I guess not and the Cowboys special teams are awful too. lol
Yeah then Wade Phillips is ******** then. How could no one be fired after that loss?
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