This was the segment that involved nyleen kay marshall who was a little girl who vanished in 1983 while out with her parents. other kids claimed they saw her go with a man who wanted to play a chase the shadow game or something to that nature. Later in the segment it mentioned that letters were received from an unknown person who claimed he was taking perfect care of her and did not molest her. The police said they had reason to believe they were genuine because there were details in that letter about nyleen that were not released to the public.
I found an old thread on here that had excerpts from the letter from what was shown on screen from the letter and when I read it I literally had goosebumps.
This man made reference to doing something to her with a teaspoon of a sperm and in the next sentence he says he is not "molesting her" :eek:
The beginning of the sentence was cut off and it isn't clear what he is doing to the girl with his teaspoon of his sperm, but I'm really hoping it's not what I think it is:(
I actually registered and posted this because this is really disturbing me.
I hope Nyleen is eventually found alive and reunited with her family and I will continue to hope for that. It's really sad that these child kidnappers don't realize the amount of pain they inflict on not just the victims, but their family members, too.

This was the segment that involved nyleen kay marshall who was a little girl who vanished in 1983 while out with her parents. other kids claimed they saw her go with a man who wanted to play a chase the shadow game or something to that nature. Later in the segment it mentioned that letters were received from an unknown person who claimed he was taking perfect care of her and did not molest her. The police said they had reason to believe they were genuine because there were details in that letter about nyleen that were not released to the public.
I found an old thread on here that had excerpts from the letter from what was shown on screen from the letter and when I read it I literally had goosebumps.
This man made reference to doing something to her with a teaspoon of a sperm and in the next sentence he says he is not "molesting her" :eek:
The beginning of the sentence was cut off and it isn't clear what he is doing to the girl with his teaspoon of his sperm, but I'm really hoping it's not what I think it is:(
I actually registered and posted this because this is really disturbing me.
I hope Nyleen is eventually found alive and reunited with her family and I will continue to hope for that. It's really sad that these child kidnappers don't realize the amount of pain they inflict on not just the victims, but their family members, too.

I know. This has definitely been one of the more deeply disturbing UM cases. Unfortunately, regardless of the kidnapper's claims that he's "taking good care of her," I think it's highly unlikely that Nyleen is still alive after being missing for nearly 30 years, and as far as reuniting with her family goes, I'm not sure what the deal is with her father nowadays, or if she has any other relatives, but I do know that her mother (who appeared in the segment) has been dead for about 15 years now.

There are a few things (thankfully only a few) I have seen throughout the course of my life that I wish I could "unsee" - this letter is one of them.

I felt TERRIBLE the day I paused the video and read it for the first time. Oddly enough, I had the segment on video for years and never decided to freeze frame in an attempt to read the letter until recently, but I definitely wish I hadn't done so.

Heart-wrenching case...

I too doubt she is still alive as well, espeically considering how far her kidnapper would go already...

Its also incredibly sad to hear about her mother, who is now a unsolved mystery herself.

Yeah, I was the one who copied the letter after pausing it on my TV screen. It's disgusting.

The letter writer said apparently that he fed her that teaspoon of his stuff every morning. He never told her what it was exactly, only that he got it from the bathroom every morning. And he claimed to have never molested her in any other way, not that he never molested her.

Whatever the case, it's sickening to think about it.

If the letter was really written by Nyleen's kidnapper atleast there is some hope she is still alive and in a situation similar to what Jaycee Dugard went through.
I'm not naive about the world and the horrible things that occur in it, but what really disturbed me was the guy in this letter claimed what he was doing wasn't molesting her when in fact what he described is a form of child molestation. It seems most child kidnappers either try to justify their actions or they flatout don't care about the consequences of their actions whether it be rape or murder.
If by some chance this letter is a hoax then someone has an extremely sick sense of humor.
I still want to hold out hope she will be found and reunited with her father.
It's very sad to hear what happened to her mother :(
May her mother rest in peace.

If by some chance this letter is a hoax then someone has an extremely sick sense of humor.

I never believed the letter was a hoax. I'm sure that missing child cases generate all sorts of goofy, unrelated and downright false leads. The fact that the police choose to highlight this particular correspondence and go public with it tells me that they must have believed it to be authentic, at least at that time. Ergo, I'm certain that the full letter must have contained some additional crucial information, perhaps information withheld from the public, that convinced investigators that the author of the letter was Nyleen's abductor.

Why do people that believe the letter is authentic think she's dead?
I don't think the letter is a hoax either.
I'm actually suprised that alot of people that think the letter is real would believe she is dead.
There are a few reasons why I think if the letter is authentic that she may still be alive.
Nyleen was only 3 when she was kidnapped and I'm sure she must have little to no memory of her former life with her parents.
She could easily have been brainwashed and is now accustomed to a new lifestyle with this man.
The man also made contact with a missing child center with both phone calls and letters.
The letters made it clear that this man was fond of the little girl and doesn't believe he is doing any wrong which is why he probably even mentioned that one disturbing piece of information to begin with.
Although there alot of child molestors that are also killers there are some that aren't and I'm hoping that judging by the letter he is not a killer.
Even though she has probably undergone years of sexual and mental abuse I still believe that if she is found her life can be salvaged and she can find someway to move forward.
I honestly think she may be in a situation similar to Jaycee Dugard's because of this and she was missing for close to 20 years!
From what I heard Dugard is also progressing well with her real family and trying to live a normal life.
One can only hope that if Nyleen is still alive the same will be possible for her.

We know little about the author of the letter but I think it is reasonable to assume that he is a pedophile. Although pedophiles like children of different ages, it varies from one offender to another. For example, a pedophile may prefer very young girls while another may prefer girls in their early teens. It's a personal taste. As Nyleen aged, it's possible that he may have lost interest in her sexually as she matured beyond his specific age preference. What would he have done with her then? If anything, she becomes a liability. As she gets older, she may want to rebel, she may start asking questions about her family (assuming this man is her only family) and keeping her existence a secret as well as keeping her shielded from the world outside becomes much more problematic.

I'm not saying for sure that she is dead. However, I could certainly understand the letter from 1985 being authentic, but that not necessarily meaning she continued to live for years beyond that.

I think there is a chance that Nayleen could be alive and just forgot all about her past, BUT there's also a chance that she could be dead, honestly, until we find the man responsible, we wont ever know.

I never believed the letter was a hoax. I'm sure that missing child cases generate all sorts of goofy, unrelated and downright false leads. The fact that the police choose to highlight this particular correspondence and go public with it tells me that they must have believed it to be authentic, at least at that time. Ergo, I'm certain that the full letter must have contained some additional crucial information, perhaps information withheld from the public, that convinced investigators that the author of the letter was Nyleen's abductor.

I never believed the letter was a hoax either Justin and I'll tell you why: According information I gleaned from The Charley Project there was information in those letters not released to the general public and through my own research I believe I have discovered what that information is and it is something noticeably absent from every report I've read on this case.

Having researched this case pretty thoroughly online over the years, I've never been able to locate any details about the clothing which Nyleen was wearing at the time of her disappearance. Now you think that in the case of a missing child who disappeared in a national park with a bunch of other families around that one of the key points that the authorities would want to harp on would be the clothing Nyleen was wearing when she vanished.

In fact I've found that information like this is often a staple of many of the various fliers or posters regarding missing children where authorities say "When last seen ___ was wearing such and such" but not in the case of NKM. In fact it almost seems that this vital piece of information has been deliberately held back for some reason.

I submit the reason is because in these letters or phone calls, the alleged abductor gave such an accurate description of how Nyleen was dressed at the time of her abduction that it convinced the authorities that the person who was writing these letters may have been involved in Nyleen's disappearance.

It is also important to note that in the disappearance of Nyleen Kay Marshall that the phone calls from the alleged abductor were traced to the Edgerton/Janesville, Wisconsin area and there was in fact a sighting of a girl resembling Marshall at a restaurant in this same area. Now to me it's very strange that those two incidents would link up.

Fed her his "stuff"....oh god, I hope this isn't refering to what I think it is...

I never believed the letter was a hoax either Justin and I'll tell you why: According information I gleaned from The Charley Project there was information in those letters not released to the general public and through my own research I believe I have discovered what that information is and it is something noticeably absent from every report I've read on this case.

Having researched this case pretty thoroughly online over the years, I've never been able to locate any details about the clothing which Nyleen was wearing at the time of her disappearance.

Some excellent points. I wonder if the clothing worn by the young girl portraying Nyleen in the segment was actually representative of what she was wearing that day. In light of what you deduced, it seems doubtful.

I figured the letters had to have additional information. The two or so half pages they showed on television can't be the entire letter. Additionally, RS mentioned at the end of the segment that the author had indicated that both of his own parents (and possibly a sibling?) were killed in a car crash (not something visable on the portions of the letters shown on camera). For some reason, this tidbit was always edited out of the Lifetime airings. However, Crystaldawn and I noticed it on an NBC airing.

I have to question Lifetime's editorial decision making here. I know "something has to be go" but this detail is crucial and specific enough that it could lead to the identity of the author.

Question to the above posters, where did you find the letter? Do you have access to internal info from family/police?

Question to the above posters, where did you find the letter? Do you have access to internal info from family/police?

The Unsolved Mysteries segment.

The Unsolved Mysteries segment.

They only showed about what 1 or 2 paragraphs?

They only showed about what 1 or 2 paragraphs?

These are what was shown on the show. The answer yes. Everything else to this day remains disclosed to the public.

“[…] I didn’t want their person to try to get information from her. All I could tell them was that she was OK. I hope that Child Find can get the following back to her family.

I picked “Kay” up on a road in the Elkhorn Pk. area between Helena and Boulder. She was crying and frightened and as I held her she was shaking and I decided that I would keep her and love her. I took her home with me.

I have a nice investment income and I can work at home so I care for her myself all the time. I teach her at home and she likes to go with me when I travel.

Her hair is short and curly now and she has really grown. She is about 45 inches and around 50 pounds. She has all four permanent upper and two of her lower incisors at this time. She takes a bath and brushes her teeth every day.

She eats well. Her favorite meal is pizza and Cherry […]”

“[…] she would gladly recount to you trips to San Francisco, New York, Oklahoma City, New Orleans, Nashville, Chicago, Puerto Rico, or Canada. We were even in Britain for a month last year and she loved it. (Nobody questions passports.) […]”

“[…] it is or where it comes from, only that I get it from the bathroom every morning. It is actually a spoonful of my semen. It doesn’t affect her physically. I have NEVER “molested” her in any other way.

She is a sweet little girl and it is because of how much I have grown to love her that I realize how much her family must miss her. But she has adjusted and seems happy. She trusts me and isn’t afraid. We play a lot and she laughs when we clown around. She smiles and acts coy when I tease her. She giggles when we snuggle and hugs me sometimes for no apparent reason. I love her and I have her. I just can’t let her go!”

People like this really are contemptible-putting families through hell for attention or just being sick people. If he had abducted her then why did he never provide any proof such as photographic evidence. Same thing with the guy who harassed Amy Billig's mother for 20 odd years or Wearside Jack who derailed the already difficult Yorkshire Ripper investigation.

People like this really are contemptible-putting families through hell for attention or just being sick people. If he had abducted her then why did he never provide any proof such as photographic evidence. Same thing with the guy who harassed Amy Billig's mother for 20 odd years or Wearside Jack who derailed the already difficult Yorkshire Ripper investigation.

The guy was privy to info kept from from the public. What those are, who knows.

The real mystery is why has that composite sketch of the guy in the jogging suit never been released? That should be in her flyers, especially in the Dane and Rock County area of Wisconsin.

The guy was privy to info kept from from the public. What those are, who knows.

The real mystery is why has that composite sketch of the guy in the jogging suit never been released? That should be in her flyers, especially in the Dane and Rock County area of Wisconsin.

But was he? We have heard this before about cases where details have been printed in newspapers or discussed on a news show. I can recall one case where the police said there was no way a suspect they had arrested could have known details about the injuries inflicted on a victim as they had kept it quiet, yet it turned out somebody from the force had told a paper who printed it.

These letters were not sent in 1983 or 1984, but 1985 & 1986. Now, there is at least one newspaper article on the case from July 28th 1985-not long before the letter writing began, who knows how many were printed over the country in national & even regional papers? How many shows both national & local stations it aired on that year? It seems highly likely as usually happens when these cases start getting a new bout of publicity in the ensuing years that cranks start appearing out of the woodwork like Johnny Gosch & Rachael Runyan putting graffiti in bathrooms, making hoax calls etc. He starts writing letters two years after the abduction when there is renewed publicity, he doesn't produce a shred of evidence that he has her-no photo or video proof, no audio recording of her, not once was she put on the phone to anybody listening to confirm his story.

I'm not saying he's the guy. I just don't think he'd go out of his way to produce authentic video or photo evidence out of fear of giving himself away if he were.
Maybe audio, but he's explained why he doesn't just put her through the line.

[…] I didn’t want their person to try to get information from her. All I could tell them was that she was OK. I hope that Child Find can get the following back to her family.

All he can go by is specific information.

At the very least, I think he was a former Montanian who knew what he knew through gossip and Montanian newspapers that explain more than just "last seen with some guy in a jogging suit." He only realizes her family misses her because he read that newspaper article you just mentioned, which was all about how much they missed her.

Yet he was willing to risk his handwriting being recognised, his voice being recognised, his call being traced etc.

Not sure how hand-writing he's never shown (or barely if that zig-zag above the questionable content counts), a voice over a hundred people could have, and tracked phone calls that never got Mr. Nobody Questions Passports! compares to law enforcement having an image of the seven-year-old they're looking for.

I paused the segment in Amazon prime when they showed the letter and I really really wish I had never read it.

Not sure how hand-writing he's never shown (or barely if that zig-zag above the questionable content counts), a voice over a hundred people could have, and tracked phone calls that never got Mr. Nobody Questions Passports! compares to law enforcement having an image of the seven-year-old they're looking for.

Writing styles can be identified, voices can be deciphered & calls can be traced.
The guy was making the calls & sent a letter from Wisconsin-right away he gave them a massive clue that could have led to him being tracked.

He doesn't need to know those first two things to worry that sending a photo or video is sending a big enough clue that may lead to his capture. Plus, how simple is it to decipher one's writing and voice, and then finding a match? Has it ever got us Mr. Nobody Questions Passports!?

As for the third thing, it just might be dumb luck, but he seems to know when to cease contact with Child Find of America and those other 1-800 numbers.

I'm not going to bother reading the letter but just the name of this person kind of shook me up b/c it's very close to my name! Creepy!

Yet he was willing to risk his handwriting being recognised, his voice being recognised, his call being traced etc.

Also if you had kidnapped a child how willing would you be to go traveling around in public when there was a chance she'd be recognized?