But in the O.J.Simpson murder trial was Elizabeth Montgomery,in 1994,(yes,I am aware she died in 1995),since she starred with O.J.Simpson in the TV-movie "A Killing Affair",ever considered as a character witness for the defense?

Oh God No, she was terribly disappointed in him as she was very excited at first being such a big sports fan.

But he was constantly hitting on her on the set in a crude way, she was so disgusted by him that she made sure she stayed with the crew except when she was actually filming a scene just to avoid him.

What I found out about Liz and OJ, well when they were filming A KILLING AFFAIR, he was getting a bit fresh with her and she didn't like it, he was making her feel a little uncomfortable, he was making discreet passes at her, and she was having non of it, so she avoided him at all cost, she was too much in love with Bob and she wouldn't do anything to risk that.

Apparently Liz told OJ, "To knock it off!" She didn't let it affect her acting and she still acted out a top performance as she wasn't going to let him get to her, he knew she was in a deep loving relationship but it didn't stop him trying, so he tried hitting on her, anyway she told him firmly to pack it in, and he knew where he stood after that, so he just carried on with the filming and didn't try anything else, you are right he does loves white blond women and she was one that he couldn't have.

On one occasion he said something well let's say something of a dirty nature to her, she stopped in her tracks and stirred at him and she gave him a very icy glare that made him jump back, he didn't say anything else like that again.

Larry Tate :)

But in the O.J.Simpson murder trial was Elizabeth Montgomery,in 1994,(yes,I am aware she died in 1995),since she starred with O.J.Simpson in the TV-movie "A Killing Affair",ever considered as a character witness for the defense?

^ Where did you hear all that?

I read it in a magazine article based on interviews conducted with the crew members from the set of the movie A Killing Affair.

Larry Tate :)

^ Where did you hear all that?

I read it in a magazine article based on interviews conducted with the crew members from the set of the movie A Killing Affair.

Larry Tate :)
Oh, I see. Was the article from the time the movie was released or in later years?

Actually it was in between the movie & the Bronco chase in the mid 1980's.

Larry Tate :)

Oh, I see. Was the article from the time the movie was released or in later years?

It's too bad she WASN'T a prosecution witness.If she had given that kind of damaging testimony,she would have put him away for life right there and then.But,we'll never know.

Actually it was in between the movie & the Bronco chase in the mid 1980's.

Larry Tate :)
Liz was still alive during the time of the double murder, the Bronco chase, and the beginning of the trial. I wonder what SHE thought about all that. :eek: :eek: :eek:

Getting back to "Bewitched",it has been said that Dick Sargent was the producers' first choice for Darrin.Is this true?And how did the producers react when Dick Sargent said he wasn't avaliable,and they chose Dick York instead?And how did ABC react?And who were the producers whose first choice for Darrin was Dick Sargent?

The Producers who were in charge of the initial casting for Bewitched beyond the Samantha role were Elizabeth Montgomery & Bill Asher with Danny Arnold as well, this was before Bewitched was sold to ABC so they were not involved at that time.

Liz & Bill choose Dick Sargent............not over Dick York as he had yet to be considered for the role and they did not think of him until after DS told then he had signed a multi movie/TV deal with Universal and as such would not be available.

Only after DS passed did Bill, Liz & Company go back to the drawing board and consider other possibilities such as Richard Crenna, Dick York etc.

They brought in DY for an audition & the rest was history.

It was never DS over DY or vs each other as they were never involved in the audition for the role at the same time.

This is a proven & corroborated Documented fact and has been accepted as such over 40 years.

What is incorrect is the revisionist history that is being perpetuated of late by those that can't stand the idea that Dick York was not alone in consideration for Darrin in the initial early time period when Bewitched was created & cast by Liz & Bill Asher in the Fall of 1963.

At no time has Bill Asher said that Dick York was the first & only choice by them as Darrin, quite the opposite is the case actually & it is on the public record & William Ashers comments on the record & on camera state that the DS's contractual obligations such as his being on the
Tammy Grimes show were indeed the reasons why he could not be cast as Darrin after he was cast as Darrin by Elizabeth Montgomery & William Asher.

There is no reliable proof or corroboration that DS was cast prior to Bill and Liz getting involved nor that he was involved whatsoever while Tammy Grimes was cast as Cassandra (Samantha), no one at anytime, anywhere, that was associated with the show in any way has stated this was the case.

As well Tammy Grimes had never actually signed onto to doing Bewitched & never was happy with a script
for a Pilot, even the last one Sol Saks did just prior to Liz & Bill coming on board, as such as in effect the project was in such a initial state with Samantha not even having been officially & contractually cast, that there would have been no casting of the other characters such as Darrin until Tammy Grimes had indeed officially signed on which of course she never did.

This makes the whole DS being cast back then with TG as being illogical as well.

All this is is second or third hand fantasy or in some cases wishful thinking.

As well there was almost no time in between when Tammy Grimes pulled out to to a Broadway show & Liz & Bill being asked to take over it by Harry Ackerman the shows Executive Producer.

That DS stated himself that he was the first choice by Bill & Liz in interviews & as well in Bewitched Forever is proven fact & not merely a wishful assumption.

Likewise so is the fact that this was stated at the time of his joining the show
in 1970 in numerous interviews in magazine articles by himself, ABC & Screen Gems Executives & that Liz herself never said it was not so.

As well in the ET Bewitched special & in the subsequent pieces ET did on the
two Darrins re DS & DY it was stated by them in each of them that DS was the first choice & that DY was only considered when DS was not available when they went back to him after their initial interview in order to offer him the role.

Furthermore Bill Asher in the E! True Hollywood Special himself on camera
clearly states that DS was the first choice as Darrin, that THEY as in he & Liz
wanted him but that he was unavailable, so there it is fact instead of fiction.

Screen Gems did all the casting themselves for the Pilot & after when the show was sold, Liz & Bill had final say in all casting after they came aboard.

Asher has been utterly consistent over the years on Sargent being his & Liz's
first choice, there are no instances where this has been stated by him
otherwise, nor has there been any offered as proof, why?, because it does not exist.

From 1963 to the last year or two he has always said it was DS & never said it was DY, what he said was that DY was the best choice in hindsight & the only choice in that respect, not that he was the first one, there is a difference.

In a recent article on Ebay about Dick Sargent taking over as Darrin it was stated that Dick Sargent had been offered the role in 1963 When Bill Asher was casting the show but had to turn it down due to a recent contractual commitment to another studio.

Larry Tate :)

Getting back to "Bewitched",it has been said that Dick Sargent was the producers' first choice for Darrin.Is this true?And how did the producers react when Dick Sargent said he wasn't avaliable,and they chose Dick York instead?And how did ABC react?And who were the producers whose first choice for Darrin was Dick Sargent?

And one final question:When she(or did she ever)learned that Dick York was involved with the homeless later in his life,was Elizabeth Montgomery in awe and surprised?

And I forgot to add:Since you have said on other posts that you were there at the very beginning,did you ever meet Elizabeth Montgomery,Dick York,Dick Sargent,Agnes Moorehead and all the rest of the cast?Just curious.Thanks.

And one final question:When she(or did she ever)learned that Dick York was involved with the homeless later in his life,was Elizabeth Montgomery in awe and surprised?
Never heard her comment one way or the other. You may want to write the author of Bewitched Forever, Herbie J. Pilato (hjpilato@yahoo.com), who interviewed Liz countless times in the last years of her life, mainly for the book Bewitched Forever. He answered all my questions and is also a very nice, personable guy.

And I've heard once that Dick York said once something to the effect that he wished that Darrin had let Samantha use her witchcraft.Is this true?

It was more of a case of he regretted Darrin being so firm & tough on Samantha about her witchcraft, screaming & yelling at her at times about it.

So he said in an interview that he sometimes wished Darrin would just let her twitch so Darrin in the process would be more nice to her, that was what he was referring too.

Being such a nice guy & gentle soul he felt bad about the screaming & yelling at Samantha because that was so unlike himself in real life.

Larry Tate :)

And I've heard once that Dick York said once something to the effect that he wished that Darrin had let Samantha use her witchcraft.Is this true?

Yeah, the yelling is what really set Dick York and Darrin Stephens apart. Dick was not a yeller in real life and was quoted in the book Bewitched Forever that he didn't like that aspect of Darrin. He felt it was selfish and unfair to Samantha.

But he also felt that Darrin was so opposed to Sam using her powers was that someone would find out and take his wife away from him - all he wanted was to be with Samantha. That scenario was played out beautifully in the S4 episode "I Confess".

It was more of a case of he regretted Darrin being so firm & tough on Samantha about her witchcraft, screaming & yelling at her at times about it.

So he said in an interview that he sometimes wished Darrin would just let her twitch so Darrin in the process would be more nice to her, that was what he was referring too.

Being such a nice guy & gentle soul he felt bad about the screaming & yelling at Samantha because that was so unlike himself in real life.

Larry Tate :)And one last question:Did Dick Sargent feel the same way?

Yes very much so, in fact he expressed pretty much the same sentiments about that as Dick York did, they were in real life similar in a lot of ways as to the type of person they were.

Larry Tate :)

And one last question:Did Dick Sargent feel the same way?

And finally,this question.This has nothing to do with "Bewitched",but is about William Asher.On "The Patty Duke Show"message board,the question was asked about whether William Asher co-created "The Patty Duke Show"with the late Sidney Sheldon?Who REALLY did create "The Patty Duke Show",was "?Was it Sidney Sheldon,by himself,or Sidney Sheldon and William Asher?

Yes very much so, in fact he expressed pretty much the same sentiments about that as Dick York did, they were in real life similar in a lot of ways as to the type of person they were.

Larry Tate :)
Another thing is that both men had in common is that they fought against poverty and hunger. Dick Sargent was also involved with the Special Olympics for many years. Dick York was well-known in his later years for raising awareness and supplies to the homeless. So both men were humanitarians. :cool:

Yes very true on all counts, Good Point.!

Larry Tate :)

Another thing is that both men had in common is that they fought against poverty and hunger. Dick Sargent was also involved with the Special Olympics for many years. Dick York was well-known in his later years for raising awareness and supplies to the homeless. So both men were humanitarians. :cool:

Yes very true on all counts, Good Point.!

Larry Tate :)
Here's more info about the Dick York Foundation:

http://www.harpiesbizarre.com/secondharvest.htm

http://feedingamerica.org/

Hey,Larry Tate.Please answer the question I asked,IF you know the answer about whether William Asher or Sidney Sheldon,or both created "The Patty Duke Show."It would be greatly appreciated.Thanks.

According to this video from 1964, they both created it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcGFpPrRjKI

Very shocking to hear about O.J. and Elizabeth. I can't believe O.J. tried all that when she was married.

Too bad to think that O.J. will probably be out in less than 10 years when he should've gotten double life!

I read it in a magazine article based on interviews conducted with the crew members from the set of the movie A Killing Affair.

Larry Tate :)

Is it true that O.J. Simpson and Elizabeth had a kissing scene in BED in "A Killing Affair"??

I just saw a blurry scene but couldn't tell exactly who the lady was although it did look like Elizabeth.

That just seems kind of strange considering Elizabeth didn't even want to be around O.J. unless the crew was around.

And one question about Elizabeth Montgomery:I have read that she did not like Sandra Gould(Gladys #2),and would have rather had Alice Ghostley play Gladys.Is this true?And who made the final decision to cast Sandra Gould as Gladys #2?Was it ABC?Screen Gems/Columbia Pictures TV?

Liz was not crazy about the portrayal of Gladys by Sandra Gould, not Sandra herself.

She thought it was somewhat shrill & i think preferred the more softer presentation by Alice Pierce to whom she was used too and as well a dear friend of.

Alice Ghostly was offered the role of Gladys but turned it down as she was close to Alice Pierce and just could not bring herself to replace her in a role Alice had made her own so Brilliantly.

Everyone had input i am sure, but in the end at that point Liz & Bill called the shots and made that call i believe.

Larry Tate :)

And one question about Elizabeth Montgomery:I have read that she did not like Sandra Gould(Gladys #2),and would have rather had Alice Ghostley play Gladys.Is this true?And who made the final decision to cast Sandra Gould as Gladys #2?Was it ABC?Screen Gems/Columbia Pictures TV?

That's what I thought.Thanks.

Liz was not crazy about the portrayal of Gladys by Sandra Gould, not Sandra herself.

She thought it was somewhat shrill & i think preferred the more softer presentation by Alice Pierce to whom she was used too and as well a dear friend of.

Alice Ghostly was offered the role of Gladys but turned it down as she was close to Alice Pierce and just could not bring herself to replace her in a role Alice had made her own so Brilliantly.

Everyone had input i am sure, but in the end at that point Liz & Bill called the shots and made that call i believe.

Larry Tate :)
Not to mention that Liz was very good friends with Alice Pearce - according to these vintage articles:

http://www.harpiesbizarre.com/sunshine.htm

http://www.harpiesbizarre.com/lizsaved.htm

Since Bernard Slade was the script consultant during season 2,AND wrote some of the black and white and color Dick York as Darrin episodes,did he ever write any Dick Sargent as Darrin episodes?And if so,what were they?

Since Bernard Slade was the script consultant during season 2,AND wrote some of the black and white and color Dick York as Darrin episodes,did he ever write any Dick Sargent as Darrin episodes?And if so,what were they?
Since he was creating the Partridge Family at that time, I don't think he was that involved with Bewitched anymore.

No he never did, Season 5 was the last one for which he wrote on Bewitched.
Puuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr's thought makes a lot of sense re the Partridge family.

Larry Tate :)

Since Bernard Slade was the script consultant during season 2,AND wrote some of the black and white and color Dick York as Darrin episodes,did he ever write any Dick Sargent as Darrin episodes?And if so,what were they?

Which writers from the Dick York as Darrin years,stayed on to write for the Dick Sargent as Darrin years?

Quite a few: http://www.harpiesbizarre.com/writersdirectors.htm

Harpies Bizarre is great - definitely MY favorite Bewitched website. :cool: :D

Harpies Bizarre is great - definitely MY favorite Bewitched website. :cool: :D
And,was there any episodes from the Dick Sargent years as

The above was an unfinished post,so I'll finish it now:Hey,Larry Tate,was /were there any episodes during the Dick Sargent as Darrin years that Dick York liked and any episodes during the Dick York as Darrin years that Dick Sargent lked?

I know of no comment that either of the two Dicks ever made in respect to any specific episodes that the other did on Bewitched.

In fact they only referred to each other in Herbie J. Pilato's Bewitched Book interviews and then only in a vague general way.

Larry Tate :)

The above was an unfinished post,so I'll finish it now:Hey,Larry Tate,was /were there any episodes during the Dick Sargent as Darrin years that Dick York liked and any episodes during the Dick York as Darrin years that Dick Sargent lked?

And,finally,Larry Tate,if you know of your own knowledge,which show"Bewitched"or "I Dream of Jeannie"was CREATED first?In other words,do you know when Sol Saks,who created "Bewitched" (along with Elizabeth Montgomery and William Asher-or were they involved at all in the creating of the characters?),and when the late Sidney Sheldon created "I Dream of Jeannie"?

Bewitched was created far Sol Saks & then refined by Bill Asher well before I Dream of Jeannie was even a consideration, then Sidney Sheldon created "I Dream of Jeannie" as a copy & ripoff of Bewitched which was a hit by then.

So the Witch came first with the Jeannie bringing up her rear. ;)

Larry Tate :)

And,finally,Larry Tate,if you know of your own knowledge,which show"Bewitched"or "I Dream of Jeannie"was CREATED first?In other words,do you know when Sol Saks,who created "Bewitched" (along with Elizabeth Montgomery and William Asher-or were they involved at all in the creating of the characters?),and when the late Sidney Sheldon created "I Dream of Jeannie"?

Oh God No, she was terribly disappointed in him as she was very excited at first being such a big sports fan.

But he was constantly hitting on her on the set in a crude way, she was so disgusted by him that she made sure she stayed with the crew except when she was actually filming a scene just to avoid him.

What I found out about Liz and OJ, well when they were filming A KILLING AFFAIR, he was getting a bit fresh with her and she didn't like it, he was making her feel a little uncomfortable, he was making discreet passes at her, and she was having non of it, so she avoided him at all cost, she was too much in love with Bob and she wouldn't do anything to risk that.

Apparently Liz told OJ, "To knock it off!" She didn't let it affect her acting and she still acted out a top performance as she wasn't going to let him get to her, he knew she was in a deep loving relationship but it didn't stop him trying, so he tried hitting on her, anyway she told him firmly to pack it in, and he knew where he stood after that, so he just carried on with the filming and didn't try anything else, you are right he does loves white blond women and she was one that he couldn't have.

On one occasion he said something well let's say something of a dirty nature to her, she stopped in her tracks and stirred at him and she gave him a very icy glare that made him jump back, he didn't say anything else like that again.

Larry Tate :)

Liz wasn't the only "magic" woman OJ tried to get "friendly" with!!

According to Barbara Eden's autobiography, Jeannie Out of the Bottle (which I just finished reading), she was asked by a sports magazine to present an award to OJ. He blantantly, aggressively, and rudely came on to her. A journalist present blamed her for having "invited" OJ's advances, simply because she happened to be wearing tight pants. :mad:

OJ's just lucky that Liz and Barbara didn't have magical powers in real life. Imagine if Samantha and Jeannie were able to team up and use their powers against OJ?? Maybe Endora could've joined in on the fun! :eek: :crazy: :lol: