View Full Version : As I'm going through Season 4 on DVD...


Jude The Obscure
03-21-2010, 06:22 PM
One thing I've discovered the series as a whole--boy, Keith was a complete and total jerk most of the run!! (Cue the David Cassidy didn't have to act the part jokes). Chris and Tracy never developed as characters--the writers never bothered to ever give them an episode about their problems (save the first season running away from home) and that Ricky--way more annoying than Cousin Oliver ever was on the Brady Bunch!

caro
03-22-2010, 09:23 AM
One thing I've discovered the series as a whole--boy, Keith was a complete and total jerk most of the run!! (Cue the David Cassidy didn't have to act the part jokes). Chris and Tracy never developed as characters--the writers never bothered to ever give them an episode about their problems (save the first season running away from home) and that Ricky--way more annoying than Cousin Oliver ever was on the Brady Bunch!

David has always attributed to the demise of the show based on the fact that he wasn't coming back.
The show suffered from poor writing the last couple of years and then it went against "All in the Family" the last year.

Acting wise you would think that David would have no where to go but up because Keith was not a stretch.

On the other hand, David perpetuates the rumor that his father Jack was bitter about turning down the Ted Baxter role. This is not true.

Ted Knight didn't want the Ted Baxter role and he was begging to be taking out of his contract.

Jack comedy was kind of hammy but his strength was drama.
In the 70's he got and Emmy nomination for the Andersonville Trial and Acclaim for villian role in Columbo.

IT is actually David who got stuck being known as a hammy, not too bright, egotistical character.

catlover79
03-22-2010, 01:03 PM
Guess David really WASN'T acting that last season!! :eek:

Jude The Obscure
03-23-2010, 12:46 AM
I enjoyed season 3 a lot--got quite a few fave episodes in it, but so far, season 4 is really suffering from "last season syndrome". Having Ricky sing in every episode so far that I've watched--save for the cruise ship episode (a decent entry), is quite aggravating. He actually wrote these songs, so he is getting royalties (in a small way) from the DVD sales. In any case, I can see why the ratings really nosedived!

caro
03-23-2010, 10:43 AM
I enjoyed season 3 a lot--got quite a few fave episodes in it, but so far, season 4 is really suffering from "last season syndrome". Having Ricky sing in every episode so far that I've watched--save for the cruise ship episode (a decent entry), is quite aggravating. He actually wrote these songs, so he is getting royalties (in a small way) from the DVD sales. In any case, I can see why the ratings really nosedived!


I am starting to study about why Monkee fans don't like David Cassidy.
The Monkees' TV show only lasted for 2 years.
Their TV show didn't make it for the 3rd season because the group thought a lot of the routines would get stale.
David Cassidy goes on to claim how the Patridge Family was on the air longer even though it was evident that they should have pulled the plug earlier.

David continues his propaganda to this day that the show was cancelled because he wasn't coming back. Then he scews statistics about record sales, concert attendances and so forth.

I give the Monkees credit for pulling the plug.
I don't know why more fans don't speak up about the real reason the PF show was cancelled.

Jude The Obscure
03-23-2010, 11:30 AM
^I'm not sure--are you agreeing with me?

caro
03-23-2010, 12:05 PM
^I'm not sure--are you agreeing with me?


YES!

I think this is what they call "Jumping the Shark".

I just think that the cast members and the audience knew the show was over going into that 4th season.

Somehow when all those fake Cassidy/Partridge Family docu-dramas started to appear in the 80's and 90's , they make it seems like the show was cancelled because DAvid didn't want to do it.

The Monkees knew when to quit.
Most people looking at the bad 4th season PF knows that the show had run past its course.

catlover79
03-23-2010, 12:50 PM
Does anyone else remember that Pizza Hut ad that Ringo Starr did years ago with Peter, Davy and Micky? I loved it!! I know that Michael Nesmith has always been somewhat ambivalent about The Monkees (he was a respected musician even before the show), but to my knowledge he's NEVER treated fans the way David Cassidy has.

gidgetgrape
03-23-2010, 03:28 PM
Ricky gets on my nerves, I have to fast forward through his parts.

catlover79
03-23-2010, 03:46 PM
Ricky gets on my nerves, I have to fast forward through his parts.
He didn't even last the whole season, did he?

Jude The Obscure
03-24-2010, 12:18 AM
^I'll let you know as I watch season 4......I keep hoping that he ends up doing a "Seven" ala Married with Children!

Marvo301
03-24-2010, 12:34 AM
^I'll let you know as I watch season 4......I keep hoping that he ends up doing a "Seven" ala Married with Children!
I have good news for you Jude. Rickey only appeared in 10 episodes so you have a lot of "Rickey Free" episodes coming up!

catlover79
03-24-2010, 12:59 PM
I have good news for you Jude. Rickey only appeared in 10 episodes so you have a lot of "Rickey Free" episodes coming up!
Thanks, Marv!! :cool:

Jude The Obscure
03-25-2010, 09:03 PM
^I must be nearing the end..........I wonder what convinced them to shove Ricky out the garage?? :lol:

caro
03-25-2010, 11:43 PM
^I must be nearing the end..........I wonder what convinced them to shove Ricky out the garage?? :lol:

There are other questions.Why hasn't Tracy learned how to play the tambourine after 4 years.

Tracy and Chris.

It's remarkable not because the series should have included them (it's hard to determine if either performer has any talent because they never do anything), but because their determined absence from making even the smallest contribution to the series is almost embarrassing.

Jude The Obscure
03-29-2010, 10:58 PM
Many plots treated Tracy and Chris as simply bookends--allowed one smart remark and then sent off to play or up to bed. Chris actually uttered in one episode (regarding Laurie's appearance in the school paper)--"Why does she look like a Negro?"--I had to put my closed captioning to make sure I heard him correctly!

The writers made no attempt whatsoever to develop them as characters. The Brady writers on the other hand made sure all six Brady kids were fully developed and each of them had episodes focused on them in every season!

I'm getting near the end of the DVD and I've actually enjoyed some of the post-Ricky episodes.

Marvo301
03-29-2010, 11:11 PM
It's a shame the writers didn't develop the characters of Chris and Tracy more. I think Brian Forster was actually a pretty good actor and I'm sure Suzanne Crough could have handled more lines too. She had a pretty good deadpan delivery. They wanted to have six family members in the band but only wanted to actually write for four of them. So unfortunately Brian and Suzanne ended up as glorified window dressing.

Jude The Obscure
03-30-2010, 04:00 PM
Yes, Brian and Suzanne were wasted, because by the fourth season, you saw they had potential to handle a sub-plot at least. They could give out some zingers.

Noooooo, the producers thought it was smart to give some child prodigy airtime and instead found out he was annoying and audience reaction must have been cold towards him.

One wonders what Danny and David must have done to the kid behind the scenes--esp if they thought Jeremy Gelbwaks was annoying! :lol:

catlover79
03-30-2010, 08:53 PM
It's a shame the writers didn't develop the characters of Chris and Tracy more. I think Brian Forster was actually a pretty good actor and I'm sure Suzanne Crough could have handled more lines too. She had a pretty good deadpan delivery. They wanted to have six family members in the band but only wanted to actually write for four of them. So unfortunately Brian and Suzanne ended up as glorified window dressing.
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