View Full Version : Carly Simon Reveals the Inspiration for the Song "You're So Vain"


Brian Damage
02-26-2010, 12:43 PM
According to an interpretation of a clip of a remastered version of "You're So Vain," Carly Simon named David Geffen as the target of the song.

When the song is played backwards, at least as heard in the clip, a voice whispers "David."

Geffen was the head of Simon's record label at the time, and was supposedly paying more attention to Joni Mitchell.

That would mean it is not about exes Cat Stevens, James Taylor, Warren Beatty, Mick Jagger or Kris Kristofferson.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/video/article300101.ece?vxSiteId=0bc72527-aa8e-4487-a5e8-94aae448c9dd&vxChannel=Sun%20Exclusive&vxClipId=1347_SUN42797&vxBitrate=300

catlover79
02-26-2010, 12:51 PM
Carly Simon went out with Cat Stevens and Kris Kristofferson? I didn't know that. Who HASN'T Mick Jagger gone out with in show biz??

Marvo301
02-26-2010, 07:20 PM
I'm so vain that I thought the song was about me! :lol: Seriously I would of never guessed it was about David Geffen.

catlover79
02-26-2010, 07:30 PM
I'm so vain that I thought the song was about me! :lol: Seriously I would of never guessed it was about David Geffen.
Or maybe it's a false answer! Carly has hedged on the identity of this mystery cad for almost 40 years now, so I wouldn't put it past her.

Marvo301
02-26-2010, 07:34 PM
Or maybe it's a false answer! Carly has hedged on the identity of this mystery cad for almost 40 years now, so I wouldn't put it past her.
Good point!

Retro4Life
02-26-2010, 10:19 PM
Carly Simon went out with Cat Stevens and Kris Kristofferson? I didn't know that. Who HASN'T Mick Jagger gone out with in show biz??

Two words...Ruth Gordon.

(I think). :crazy:

browneyes106
02-26-2010, 10:26 PM
I guess all those Warren Beaty rumors have been shot down.

catlover79
02-26-2010, 10:34 PM
Two words...Ruth Gordon.

(I think). :crazy:
I think Ruth Gordon must have had higher standards than that!! :lol: This reminds me of a conversation I once had years ago with a former co-worker. It was a slow day and Mick Jagger's name somehow came into the conversation. I said "who HASN'T Mick Jagger slept with?" He raised his hand, then I raised mine. :lol:

Retro4Life
02-26-2010, 11:18 PM
I said "who HASN'T Mick Jagger slept with?"

:wasntme: :lol:

catlover79
02-27-2010, 12:09 AM
:wasntme: :lol:
Exactly. :lol:

Ohio8
02-27-2010, 01:29 AM
:D :eek:

dakert
02-27-2010, 01:33 AM
Wasnt there an auction years ago where the highest bidder would get to know who the song was about?? Now everyone knows

Marvo301
02-27-2010, 01:47 AM
Wasnt there an auction years ago where the highest bidder would get to know who the song was about?? Now everyone knows
Yes. It was a 2003 auction to benefit Martha's Vineyard Community Services. The winning bidder was Dick Ebersol of NBC Sports. He went o Carly's house and she sang the song to him and then whispered in his ear the name of the person the song was about. The lone caveat was that he was not allowed to tell any body the name.

catlover79
02-27-2010, 01:51 AM
Yes. It was a 2003 auction to benefit Martha's Vineyard Community Services. The winning bidder was Dick Ebersol of NBC Sports. He went o Carly's house and she sang the song to him and then whispered in his ear the name of the person the song was about. The lone caveat was that he was not allowed to tell any body the name.
I remember that. He's the husband of Susan Saint James, if I'm not mistaken.

Marvo301
02-27-2010, 01:54 AM
I remember that. He's the husband of Susan Saint James, if I'm not mistaken.
Yes he is. He and Susan have been married since 1982.

catlover79
02-27-2010, 01:55 AM
Yes he is. He and Susan have been married since 1982.
Thanks - I do remember that their son died a few years ago in a small plane crash which also injured Mr. Ebersol. :(

cyberalias81
03-02-2010, 11:21 PM
She's already denying the song is about him.

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/people/news/article_1537932.php/Carly-Simon-disputes-You-re-So-Vain-is-about-David-Geffen

Liza
03-02-2010, 11:36 PM
I think Ruth Gordon must have had higher standards than that!! :lol: This reminds me of a conversation I once had years ago with a former co-worker. It was a slow day and Mick Jagger's name somehow came into the conversation. I said "who HASN'T Mick Jagger slept with?" He raised his hand, then I raised mine. :lol:

True story: I once said to my parents something about how Mick Jagger had slept with everybody. My mother said "But he told me I was the only one!" and my dad didn't miss a beat and answered "He told ME the same thing!"

Janice
03-02-2010, 11:53 PM
She waited too long. The interest was high a couple of decades ago. Today, many people couldn't care less.

catlover79
03-03-2010, 12:08 AM
True story: I once said to my parents something about how Mick Jagger had slept with everybody. My mother said "But he told me I was the only one!" and my dad didn't miss a beat and answered "He told ME the same thing!"
:rofl:

Marvo301
03-03-2010, 12:23 AM
She waited too long. The interest was high a couple of decades ago. Today, many people couldn't care less.
SHE'S so vain if she thinks we still care! :lol:

catlover79
03-03-2010, 12:37 AM
SHE'S so vain if she thinks we still care! :lol:
Not arguing!! :lol:

Zoneboy
03-03-2010, 12:45 AM
SHE'S so vain if she thinks we still care! :lol:

I wonder how many have waited in Anticipation for her to reveal who it was. ;)

catlover79
03-03-2010, 01:10 AM
I wonder how many have waited in Anticipation for her to reveal who it was. ;)
Bet she thinks she's a Legend In Her Own Time. ;)

Zebra 3
03-04-2010, 04:29 PM
I've read once that Mick Jagger was suppose to sing backup when she performed on SNL, he couldn't make it, and Chevy Chase took his place.

Cactus Jack
03-04-2010, 07:51 PM
:D :eek:
She LOOKS like Jagger there...LOL