View Full Version : The Lizzie Borden case


Sharop
02-08-2010, 08:44 PM
I've been doing some reading about the Lizzie Borden case over the last few days (for those who don't know about it, here's a Wikipedia link - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lizzie_Borden.) Those of you with knowledge of the case, what do you make of it, and who do you think was the murderer? Lizzie? The maid Bridget? An intruder? Somebody else?

I've always believed that Lizzie was most likely the person behind the murders of her stepmother and father. They were both murdered with a hatchet at their home, during the day, during which time the only two people at the house were Bridget the maid and Lizzie herself. Bridget had opportunity but no apparent motive - she had nothing to gain from the deaths of her employers and there did not appear to be any bad blood between them. Lizzie, on the other hand (along with her sister Emma) hated her stepmother and both sisters stood to inherit a sizable fortune once both their stepmother and father had passed on.

So yes, I think that Lizzie is the most likely culprit. I've been reading theories at a forum dedicated to the case. People have surmised that the killings may have been a spur of the moment thing - perhaps the idea had been festering in her mind, but that she just snapped that day and decided to kill them there and then. They figure that attacking someone with a hatchet is more the action of a person who murders someone in a fit of rage, rather than the action of someone who has made a careful plot. I think it's possible that Lizzie may have had some plan in mind to at least kill her stepmother but that she may not have intended the murders to occur right then and there, at that time, and in the way that they happened.

People have also been surmising that Lizzie may have originally intended to only kill her stepmother (Abby) and that it may have been only after her father (Andrew) returned home that she realised she would have to kill him as well. It's been suggested by some members of the forum that Lizzie may have been planning to slip out into town after murdering Abby, in order to establish an alibi for herself, but that that plan was spoiled by her father coming home before she had a chance to leave. Since he was well aware of his daughter's hatred of his wife, he would surely have realised what had happened, and therefore, she had to kill him as well.

janet42
02-08-2010, 09:07 PM
I don't know. But I can't help think that Lizzie did it, but Emma knew that she was going to do it.

Liza
02-08-2010, 09:44 PM
Lizzie Borden took an axe,
Gave her mother forty whacks,
When she saw what she had done,
Gave her father forty-one.

http://www.dvdtalk.com/dvdsavant/images/2653lizz1.jpg

Janice
02-08-2010, 09:46 PM
I think that Lizzie did it. If they had DNA and other forensic methods back then, she would have been convicted.

Liza
02-08-2010, 09:49 PM
She did it. She got off, unfortunately, because she could afford a great lawyer and because she was a woman. In those days, who would suspect a fine, upstanding lady of murder? That was what her defense argued anyways, and that's what the jury bought.

ohno:

Liza
02-08-2010, 09:59 PM
By the way, if you've never seen this, you can't afford to miss it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqXCp1VYdwU

catlover79
02-09-2010, 01:24 AM
The 1975 movie starring Elizabeth Montgomery was great. The History Channel or A&E (one of those channels, I can't remember which) also did a terrific special on the Borden case. I too think Lizzie probably did it but Janice is right. They didn't have the forensics or other equipment back then that would've sealed Lizzie's fate.

treky
02-09-2010, 04:13 AM
I definetaly think that Lizzie did it.

Pitooey
02-09-2010, 09:52 AM
I think she also did it. I agree with the fact that she planned it. Then on the day she just did the whack job.

catlover79
02-09-2010, 12:06 PM
Ironically, the Lizzie Borden house where the crimes were committed is now a bed-and-breakfast. :eek: :eek: :eek:

http://www.lizzie-borden.com/

Penny Lane
02-09-2010, 01:04 PM
Lizzie Borden took an axe,
Gave her mother forty whacks,
When she saw what she had done,
Gave her father forty-one.

http://www.dvdtalk.com/dvdsavant/images/2653lizz1.jpg

I recorded that movie years ago . It is great! The movie "speculates" on how Lizzie could have done it and it made perfect sense! I too believe that she did it. According to the movie she really covered her tracks well.:eek: I think that I will pull it out and watch it again tonight! Liz Montgomery is so good ! How I miss her!

catlover79
02-12-2010, 04:55 PM
You can see The Legend of Lizzie Borden (with Elizabeth Montgomery) here:

http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/legend_of_lizzie_borden.php

angiefan
02-12-2010, 07:40 PM
Is the Legend of Lizzie Borden on DVD? I know they had Guests for breakfast. in the movie,they didn't,Lizzie didn't want any breakfast,because of the heat,they had Mutton broth,I don't know if it's true or not.Bridget wanted it thrown out,but Andrew wanted it served,anyway.Bridget wanted Johnny Cakes or Cookies for Breakfast.

Waterston_Fan
02-13-2010, 02:01 AM
I swear, that almost looked like Erin Moran playing Lizzie Borden. :eek:

treky
02-13-2010, 05:30 AM
no, sadly it's not on DVD:( though there's been A LOT of requests for it.