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lauracrook
01-26-2010, 07:43 AM
another segment i found interesting was the murder of Anna Anton in Lyons Nebraska. The man who committed the crime, Greg Webb, a former police chief, was charged with her murder, sent to prison and has since been released. What i would like to know is y they didnt show a picture of Anna Anton on the segment? usually under normal circumstances they would have shown a picture and said a little about the victims history....i would like to know what she looked like...does anyone know where i can find a picture or a related article with more information on this case?

Mastermind
01-26-2010, 02:08 PM
another segment i found interesting was the murder of Anna Anton in Lyons Nebraska. The man who committed the crime, Greg Webb, a former police chief, was charged with her murder, sent to prison and has since been released. What i would like to know is y they didnt show a picture of Anna Anton on the segment? usually under normal circumstances they would have shown a picture and said a little about the victims history....i

I could be mistaken but wasn't she a witness against organized crime?
Isn;t that the reason why she was in Lyons, NE to begin with?

If she was a witness the police or FBI may have not wanted her photo televised to protect other witnesses or investigations.

I wonder if she was in the witness protection program.

Anna Marie Anton does sound a lot like an alias.

lauracrook
01-28-2010, 12:30 AM
true- it was believed that Anna had moved to Lyons to escape her ex husband who was supposedly involved with narcotics- however the ex was questioned and throughly investigated and they discovered that he wasn't involved in any sort of illegal activity and they believed anna had made up that story. however the police may have not investigated deep enough so it might be true- but what's with anna apparent double life? bar floozy in one area of nebraska and religious high moraled woman in another? if i was in the witness relocation program i would try and keep my head down and not show my face too often round any place where i could possibly be recognized. Something just doesnt add up.. im not diminishing the victim it is truly a sad case but i just think there are alot of unanswered questions and many mysterious angles......

Mastermind
01-28-2010, 01:43 PM
if i was in the witness relocation program i would try and keep my head down and not show my face too often round any place where i could possibly be recognized

You would think so. But apparently some criminals don't seem to grasp the concept. i.e. Sammy "The Bull" Gravano and Henry Hill (of "Goodfellas" fame)

cocytus
12-06-2010, 11:14 AM
You would think so. But apparently some criminals don't seem to grasp the concept. i.e. Sammy "The Bull" Gravano and Henry Hill (of "Goodfellas" fame)

Well...they are career criminals. And as such, they are anti-social people w/ little regard for societal norms. Even if they won the lottery or achieved great success in another field, their basic wiring is so screwed up that they'll always be at least petty crooks.

About Anna Anton: This is one case that I will have to give to law enforcement. When confronted w/ wrongdoing by one of their own, they didn't "close ranks" and they did get their man.

unsolvedmysteries
08-04-2014, 05:10 PM
Why was Webb's prison sentence so short? I heard he is out now

Mysteryphile
08-04-2014, 06:12 PM
I have searched and searched the internet for a picture of her and have always came up with nothing.

I did come up with this interesting article though.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1987-01-19/news/8701050497_1_lyons-woman-iowa

MegtheEgg86
08-06-2014, 11:54 PM
I have searched and searched the internet for a picture of her and have always came up with nothing.

I did come up with this interesting article though.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1987-01-19/news/8701050497_1_lyons-woman-iowa

Good find, and thanks for the link. Historically, there hasn't been a wealth of online information on the case.

Both Anna Anton and Greg Webb are two of the most unusual and enigmatic people ever profiled on UM, IMO. It's kind of little wonder they ended up in the entanglement they did.

TheCafeDisco
08-07-2014, 11:55 AM
Iv'e seen this episode a million times and never noticed that the segment never showed her picture til you mentioned it. Odd.

Maybe her family wanted the segment aired but had second thoughts on showing her picture, maybe that had some sort of agreement. I don't know.

soilentgreen
08-07-2014, 04:24 PM
Thanks for the article, Mysteryphile. I always wondered why none of her family or friends from her hometown were interviewed on the UM segment. Her gravestone: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=101376171

Here's a 1981 article (http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1907&dat=19811013&id=BWIrAAAAIBAJ&sjid=idkEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3324,734298)from the Spencer, Iowa Daily Reporter which mentions the marriage of an Anna Miller, described as a former Spencer resident, to Tom Anton in Florida. I was hoping for a photo of the couple but no such luck. Another article (http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1907&dat=19870716&id=TGMrAAAAIBAJ&sjid=y9gEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4287,1339779) after the murder mentions that Anna grew up in Spencer, then lived in the Lake Park, FL and Milford (NE?) areas before moving to Lyons, NE.

Webb had a son, three prior marriages, and was living with another unsuspecting woman when he was captured (http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1933&dat=19930225&id=FdkgAAAAIBAJ&sjid=IWsFAAAAIBAJ&pg=3916,5023535).

Janel "Jaycee" Miller
08-07-2014, 06:53 PM
Thanks for the article, Mysteryphile. I always wondered why none of her family or friends from her hometown were interviewed on the UM segment. Her gravestone: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=101376171

Here's a 1981 article (http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1907&dat=19811013&id=BWIrAAAAIBAJ&sjid=idkEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3324,734298)from the Spencer, Iowa Daily Reporter which mentions the marriage of an Anna Miller, described as a former Spencer resident, to Tom Anton in Florida. I was hoping for a photo of the couple but no such luck. Another article (http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1907&dat=19870716&id=TGMrAAAAIBAJ&sjid=y9gEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4287,1339779) after the murder mentions that Anna grew up in Spencer, then lived in the Lake Park, FL and Milford (NE?) areas before moving to Lyons, NE.

Webb had a son, three prior marriages, and was living with another unsuspecting woman when he was captured (http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1933&dat=19930225&id=FdkgAAAAIBAJ&sjid=IWsFAAAAIBAJ&pg=3916,5023535).


It's been a long time since I've seen this segment, but I am wondering if the Geraldine Hively Anna Anton shares her tombstone with is that one friend who is interviewed in the segment. The friend had glasses, black curly hair, if I remember right.

If the friend featured in the segment is not Geraldine Hively, then I wonder who Geraldine Hively is?

WishfulDreamer
08-07-2014, 07:03 PM
No, the friend in the segment was named Shirley Edgecombe (spelling might be wrong).

soilentgreen
08-07-2014, 07:28 PM
If the friend featured in the segment is not Geraldine Hively, then I wonder who Geraldine Hively is?

Just a guess from what's on the joint tombstone, Geraldine Hively was probably her mother or possibly an aunt.

Janel "Jaycee" Miller
08-07-2014, 07:57 PM
Just a guess from what's on the joint tombstone, Geraldine Hively was probably her mother or possibly an aunt.

Turns out you are right, SolientGreen (clapping :wave:). Based on the obit available at the link below, Geraldine was likely Anna's mom. I know some have suggested Anna was in the witness protection program; would Anna's name been in the obit if she was indeed in that program?

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1907&dat=19911116&id=8V4rAAAAIBAJ&sjid=6tkEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3828,5743919

Charlie99909
08-08-2014, 04:15 PM
Everett was inducted to a Hall of Fame in 2008. I can't find if he is still alive or not. But it is him as his wife is mentioned in the article by name.

Charlie99909
08-08-2014, 04:18 PM
Bam! I even located a phone number. Who's brave enough to call and ask?

lauracrook
09-08-2014, 09:28 PM
Bam! I even located a phone number. Who's brave enough to call and ask?


How about you? :lol:

logancircle2
04-02-2015, 08:46 PM
I got obsessed with this case, too. So much so that I started writing a screenplay for a movie based on the case. The thing I always find creepiest is these people who seem to be fine living these double-lives. In my screenplay another set of people come forward from another Nebraska town, claiming to have known the same woman, but by yet another alias. In my version, "Anna" only spoke broken English, second to her native Russian.

Mysteryphile
02-03-2019, 08:09 AM
This mentions that Anna had three large dogs.

http://mimesislaw.com/fault-lines/a-stranger-in-lyons/8666

hostedbyrobertstack
02-03-2019, 08:41 AM
Reading through this thread, this is all very interesting. This is one of those cases that I watch repeatedly, mostly due to the production value...it is a very good one, especially for Season 3. Looking through these articles, it is strange that her middle name is referred to as Miller (her maiden name) instead of how it was said in the segment. Also, I noticed that her hometown of "spencer" is roughly 22 minutes south of Arnold's Park, where she met Greg Webb. I have always wondered what Greg was doing up at Arnold's Park (since it's 2.5 hours from Lyons, NE), but looking on the map, it is located on a large lake, so that could really be my only reasoning. Also, if they said Anna had a double life in Arnold's Park, but I am wondering if this is when she visited home in Spencer that she would go up to AP and be a floozy. Also, very odd that she was married in FL and lived in FL for a while, as otherwise she was living in small farm towns in IA and NE. Would love to somehow get more to the bottom of this and find some images, I know there have to be some out there somewhere.

MegtheEgg86
02-03-2019, 11:05 AM
Reading through this thread, this is all very interesting. This is one of those cases that I watch repeatedly, mostly due to the production value...it is a very good one, especially for Season 3. Looking through these articles, it is strange that her middle name is referred to as Miller (her maiden name) instead of how it was said in the segment. Also, I noticed that her hometown of "spencer" is roughly 22 minutes south of Arnold's Park, where she met Greg Webb. I have always wondered what Greg was doing up at Arnold's Park (since it's 2.5 hours from Lyons, NE), but looking on the map, it is located on a large lake, so that could really be my only reasoning. Also, if they said Anna had a double life in Arnold's Park, but I am wondering if this is when she visited home in Spencer that she would go up to AP and be a floozy. Also, very odd that she was married in FL and lived in FL for a while, as otherwise she was living in small farm towns in IA and NE. Would love to somehow get more to the bottom of this and find some images, I know there have to be some out there somewhere.

You're correct: Arnold's Park is a resort town centering on the lake and an amusement park.

Anna living in Spencer but going over to AP is kind of akin to living in Knoxville and going up to Gatlinburg, I reckon.

hostedbyrobertstack
02-03-2019, 11:49 AM
You're correct: Arnold's Park is a resort town centering on the lake and an amusement park.

Anna living in Spencer but going over to AP is kind of akin to living in Knoxville and going up to Gatlinburg, I reckon.

You're right....after I posted that I did more digging and saw that it was actually mentioned on the article posted on the FindAGrave. Actually, after that article, a lot more starts to make sense.

1. It says that her house in Iowa was sold and she could no longer live there, so she needed to find a place for her and her dogs to stay.

2. She meets Greg Webb at this same time in Arnolds Park. They hit it off, and he probably tells her about the apartment in his complex available and then she decides to move to Lyons, hoping this would lead to a relationship.

It all kind of makes a bit more sense now, and not nearly as mysterious. I don't believe she was in Witness Protection, I just think she had a divorce from "Tom Anton" and wanted a fresh start.

BDR
02-11-2019, 04:38 PM
God bless the dead but they really said that she was a christian in Lyons but a whore in the next town over. I always found that interesting.

Huskerz85
02-12-2019, 02:03 PM
God bless the dead but they really said that she was a christian in Lyons but a whore in the next town over. I always found that interesting.

Yeah - esp. given how she apparently reacted to Webb's philandering.

sdb4884
02-13-2019, 09:02 AM
No photos of her, ever!

unsolved243
07-21-2019, 07:14 PM
Finally found a picture of Anna! Someone clipped a newspaper article from Newspapers.com (link to article here (https://www.newspapers.com/clip/28308650/anna_marie_antongregg_webb/)). It shows a picture of Anna that appears to be of her in her twenties. It's interesting to finally see what she looks like after all this time.

TJ
07-21-2019, 08:15 PM
My sister is the one who found and clipped that photo from The Des Moines Register back in February. She hadn't mentioned it to me. Glad one was finally found.

Some other UM related clippings she found:
https://www.newspapers.com/profile/lisafull79/

hostedbyrobertstack
07-23-2019, 06:53 AM
Wow! Excellent to see. I must say, after seeing that photo, it makes me wonder, "Why have we never seen a photo of her?" She seems pretty normal looking and not as mysterious as the "no photo" situation would ever lead us to believe, ha!

cuba_libre
07-26-2019, 12:25 AM
We finally see Ms. Anton! Wow! Thanks to the finder of the picture!

sdb4884
07-29-2019, 08:07 AM
Good work!

EighthStreet
12-05-2019, 08:40 PM
Was there ever a motive established for why he so brutally killed her?

soilentgreen
12-06-2019, 10:49 AM
Was there ever a motive established for why he so brutally killed her?

I don't believe so; the only theory is that there may have been a dispute over Webb's involvement with other women. Webb claimed (https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-1994-03-04-9403041164-story.html) at his trial that he and Anna had been drinking heavily and he didn't recall how she ended up murdered on the floor of her apartment. It's terrible that a police officer who murdered a disabled woman was released after serving only eight years.

LooksLikeCRicci
12-09-2019, 02:30 PM
I don't believe so; the only theory is that there may have been a dispute over Webb's involvement with other women. Webb claimed (https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-1994-03-04-9403041164-story.html) at his trial that he and Anna had been drinking heavily and he didn't recall how she ended up murdered on the floor of her apartment. It's terrible that a police officer who murdered a disabled woman was released after serving only eight years.

I certainly understand the mechanism behind plea agreements and all that, but I’d love to know why this plea deal was reached the way it was. From the way the segment played out, they had blood on his jacket, they had blood in her apartment leading up to his, they had eyewitnesses see him carry something out of his apartment the next morning...

I wonder if those eyewitnesses were deceased.

Huskerz85
12-10-2019, 12:38 PM
I certainly understand the mechanism behind plea agreements and all that, but I’d love to know why this plea deal was reached the way it was. From the way the segment played out, they had blood on his jacket, they had blood in her apartment leading up to his, they had eyewitnesses see him carry something out of his apartment the next morning...

I wonder if those eyewitnesses were deceased.

I'm not sure if any of the eyewitnesses are, but apparently his lawyer (assuming this is the *right* Michael Levy) is

https://www.nebar.com/members/?id=26350480

Jim Burnside pleaded no contest when he murdered Annette Schappacher and got life. So here, I'm assuming it goes back to Webb's lawyer who likely was able to finagle some kind of deal.

soilentgreen
12-12-2019, 12:58 PM
I certainly understand the mechanism behind plea agreements and all that, but I’d love to know why this plea deal was reached the way it was. From the way the segment played out, they had blood on his jacket, they had blood in her apartment leading up to his, they had eyewitnesses see him carry something out of his apartment the next morning...

I wonder if those eyewitnesses were deceased.

I wondered about the plea deal as well, the prosecution stated they would not offer a sentencing recommendation. This site (http://mimesislaw.com/fault-lines/a-stranger-in-lyons/8666) states that Levy got Webb a deal that he couldn't refuse.

Huskerz85
04-21-2023, 10:43 AM
A local online news outlet published a retrospective of sorts - has an interview with Webb himself as well as NSP Investigator Krieger and some assorted photos/tidbits of info not shown in the UM segment

https://flatwaterfreepress.org/a-small-town-police-chief-became-a-murder-suspect-became-a-florida-retiree-thirty-years-later-he-takes-no-responsibility-for-the-crime/

TheCars1986
04-21-2023, 12:43 PM
"I don't believe I killed her."

Yeah okay, Greg.

DazzlerSparkler
04-30-2023, 03:13 AM
*screeching voice*
AHHNUH?! AHHNUH?!!!"

SageSlowdive
04-30-2023, 03:58 PM
His new line of thinking is surely just so he can sleep at night. He knows just as well as the rest of the world he killed Anna with no motive.

soilentgreen
05-16-2023, 03:47 PM
On Feb. 23, 1993, when Webb entered the construction company office, two police officers were there to meet him, Krieger said. A local officer put the first handcuff on him. Krieger said he then walked into the office, said “Hi Greg, remember me?” and clicked on the second handcuff.


Nicely done.

Not surprisingly, Webb is still a remorseless liar and POS.

sdb4884
05-18-2023, 06:21 PM
Nicely done.

Not surprisingly, Webb is still a remorseless liar and POS.

Good stuff.