Remember the story about the frozen apeman? And the guy replaced it with a fake and went on the run? Was this case ruled a hoax or what?

Remember the story about the frozen apeman? And the guy replaced it with a fake and went on the run? Was this case ruled a hoax or what?

If I remember right, it was a hoax. But don't quote me on that.

I don't think anyones found the specimen yet. Isn't it still missing? If that's the case, we may never determin it;s authenticity.

BTW, it should be pointed out that it wouldn;t be that big a stretch if the thing was real. It's not like finding a bigfoot corpse or anything.

BTW, it should be pointed out that it wouldn;t be that big a stretch if the thing was real. It's not like finding a bigfoot corpse or anything.

I was thinking the same thing. Sure, it'd be a very interesting find and one for the books, but a Roswell alien or mothman it ain't.

This was always one of my favorite segments when I was a kid.

I'd be surprised if it was a hoax and made to really look authentic way back when it was first displayed as a side show attraction. The one thing I'll never get about the the segment that aired other than the entire mystery of the Iceman, is the one guy who went to the attraction as a boy and managed to bring along a man with a good amount of credibility in some sort of field like anthropology or "cryptozoology", who was first skeptical about the entire thing but after he saw the specimen he came out and barely spoke to the kid and just darted. It's almost as if that guy's ego was really hurt bad or something. Very weird.

I'd be surprised if it was a hoax and made to really look authentic way back when it was first displayed as a side show attraction. The one thing I'll never get about the the segment that aired other than the entire mystery of the Iceman, is the one guy who went to the attraction as a boy and managed to bring along a man with a good amount of credibility in some sort of field like anthropology or "cryptozoology", who was first skeptical about the entire thing but after he saw the specimen he came out and barely spoke to the kid and just darted. It's almost as if that guy's ego was really hurt bad or something. Very weird.

Yes, it's really a shame that person couldn't have been located and persuaded to talk. If it was a fake, why replace it? Whatever was in there originally was a real, dead...something.

This reminds me of an image which has appeared in Something Wicked This Way Comes and possibly other works by Ray Bradbury. A carnival would come into town exhibiting a young woman frozen in a large block of ice. Days later, the ice would be gone and the same young woman would be seen walking around, alive and well. I asked him where he got the idea for that particular image and he said it had been done at early carnivals, giving no hints as to what may have been done or how.

My best guess is a replica was made resembling one of the carnival workers and frozen in ice. This would take considerable doing, hiring an artist to create an image probably in wax, or at the very least making up an actress to as nearly as possible resemble an already-created image, and then having the means to keep it frozen while traveling in the 1920s, a time when people didn't normally even keep ice cream around. I wonder if the iceman can have been produced in a similar way, by a talented enough artist to fool scientists, or whether it really was some strange ape or deformed human? Unfortunately no samples were taken for testing and like "the late John Wilkes Booth," the thing disappeared.

Yes, it's really a shame that person couldn't have been located and persuaded to talk. If it was a fake, why replace it? Whatever was in there originally was a real, dead...something.
I agree.I recall they said it smelled,and fakes don't have a dead odor about them.

Well, the fake Bigfoot a few years back smelled due to some meat placed enough to the outside of the ice to spoil, but this thing seemed to have other characteristics to recommend it as real. The carnival example was put forth to show how something frozen in ice can be deceiving if done right, due to masking/distorting effects of the ice.

i hope it shows up

Look what just reappeared:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/28/minnesota-iceman-photos_n_3517680.html

You're kidding! This is awesome. I hope that they do testing on it soon.
So, Hansen himself killed this thing? Yikes. No wonder he made it disappear. Then again, my brain goes to the darkest scenario in which the creature is found to be a hirsute, modern human who was living a hermit's life in the woods. :lol:

You're kidding! This is awesome. I hope that they do testing on it soon.
So, Hansen himself killed this thing? Yikes. No wonder he made it disappear. Then again, my brain goes to the darkest scenario in which the creature is found to be a hirsute, modern human who was living a hermit's life in the woods. :lol:


I was just thinking, he shot some poor guy with hypertrichosis.

It was featured on the show Shipping Wars last tuesday night it showed them delivering it to its new owner. Frozen crypt and all was shipped.

I've been looking at this board for a while, but never bothered registering.

I recall the segment on UM, it was interesting that the exhibit vanished. It's interesting now that it has appeared again.


Nice to know this turned up, I wouldn't have heard about ti had it not been for stopping by this message board.


I'd post a url, but, it tells me I need 5 posts to do so. Anyway, there is a video out there that includes photos from when this was listed for sale on ebay. That video also includes in the description some notes about the condition of the freezer, the compressor needs to be replaced/repaired..

Also, the website for a fox channel in Austin has a 3min segment online, with an interview with the current owner, who talks about how he bought it on ebay, etc.

Of all the mysteries to have an update, this one would have been one of the least likely imo. Maybe they will find the remains of that small alien/indian.

So, let me get this straight: The original owner had the thing all along, right? Why was it on UM? Did he deny having it? It's been a really long time since I've seen the segment.

Wow, this is some weird mofo story. It is so easy to fake, and considering that he was basically selling tickets for people to see it. I doubt its real, guy anther guy looking to make a buck off the whole bigfoot BS

So, let me get this straight: The original owner had the thing all along, right? Why was it on UM? Did he deny having it? It's been a really long time since I've seen the segment.


It was on UM because the iceman "Disappeared" from the sideshows. The key things, was it real? What was it, if real? Were there two displays, one containing a real dead thing, and the other a replica?

I had to give this segment another viewing after stumbling on this thread here. Basically, it was on UM because there were some who thought it was possibly something "real" that was dead.

Then, there was something where police were going to send over someone to the owner's house, to look it over, just to be sure it's fake, and apparently before someone could show up to examine it he skipped out with the iceman.

Then, there was talk that when someone people saw it again, they said it was different than the one they had seen before, so it must be a duplicate...

It's all interesting, but it seems to me, there was probably only 1 of these. Everytime the water in the tank was frozen into ice again, it could cause the "creature" to look a bit different. Also, keeping this hidden away for so many years, and just making it disappear, added to the legend of the iceman. The owner probably enjoyed that no one really knew.



I'm actually surprised he didn't destroy the iceman display, to make the mystery permanent.

I guess there is no money in destroying it.good thought though.

it has to be real!

why would it have to be real?

Robert Stacks quote " was it just an elaborate hoax concocted by a professional huckster?" Loved that line