I feel embarrassed to write this, but I need some advice from my friends. If you don't consider me a friend, then please move on, because I've had all the bashing I can take. I was recently attacked, in a post, by a person that I've never done anything to at all. It was very mean. It was the cruelest thing anyone has ever said to me. I don't want to name the person, but many of you probably know what happened anyway. I've been very open about my life here. I was molested by my stepfather when I was a little girl. I was attacked in a holdup at gunpoint four years ago. This was all made worse by the fact that I am legally blind. I've learned that verbal abuse can hurt as much as physical abuse. Sometimes it's the scars you don't see that hurt the most.

I've been crying for two days and having nightmares. I can't get those cruel words out of my mind. I was in therapy for years but stopped. I have an appointment this week to see a therapist. I thought my days of being attacked were over. I'm trying to take hold of my emotions before they take hold of me. Has anyone ever been in a situation similar to this, where you've been verbally attacked, in public for no reason, by someone you barely knew? I appreciate any advice. I'm not trying to start any trouble on the boards, so please, don't go there. None of what this person wrote is true. I'm just so confused and sad.

I would just put the offending user on Block and try to forget about it.

may b it was constructive criticism & u took it the wrong way

these replies so far (besides the third), wow just wow.

i know how you feel. everyone has emotionally assassinated me, even the person i trusted with all of my broken heart. i think an important lesson in life is that lifelasting kindness in humans does not exist. the soul of everyone, no matter who they are, will eventually rot away and make you miserable. it's quite accurate that only the good die young, because it happens before their value wears off. i find that accepting that reality doesn't totally prevent the pain of future betrayals, but it lessens it due to the reduced disappointment.

you're on the right track by seeing a therapist and also by letting out your emotions to those who will listen. i've studied mental health and i can attest that keeping it all to yourself would just amplify the feelings. i think you would benefit from cognitive therapy so you can overcome the mental demons and build a stronger immunity to future emotional abuse.

...and if therapy can help you, then by all means, try it. I used to be picked on when I was in junior high and my early years in high school....and I felt like you at times. But by the time I became a senior, it just...ceased. I know it's not the same situation, and it's not that easy with you, 'Family', but you'll come through this as I did. Nobody should make anyone feel rotten- even you.

:hug:

^ i'm confused are you both asking for advice?:confused:

may b it was constructive criticism & u took it the wrong way

I can tell the difference between constructive criticism and verbal abuse. Is there a good way to interpret...

"maybe you need to even have a date... wait, I take that back, you probably will never be able to get one without paying the poor guy. " or

"you're the little sh*t that couldn't".

or "Just GET A LIFE!"

Also, I don't know this person, and I never asked for an opinion or an analysis of myself. I'm not doing that now either. I'm simply asking if anyone's ever been bullied, or verbally abused, for no reason, not that any reason is acceptable.

Jenny, it's late, and I'll write more tomorrow. Just know that I'm here for you, and I value your friendship a great deal. I think you're only guilty of being my friend. I think things will be calmer around here in the future, so take heart in knowing that it won't happen again. In fact, TJ was on the case so fast that I didn't know about it until it was over, so not many people saw that evil blast. You wouldn't have seen it if the author didn't PM it to you. :rolleyes:

^ i'm confused are you both asking for advice?:confused:
No, only Jenny is asking for advice. I was trying to assist her with multiple quotes, but it didn't work for me either, so it's all clear now.

Years ago I had a supervisor who would do mean things or say something to embarrass me in front of others. I never did anything to her. Why she picked on me I'll never know. But it was hurtful. I have always had self esteem problems and she didn't help. On top of that she won the lottery. I have moved on and have forgiven her. I hope you can do the same. I have dealt with verbal abuse through out my life and it can scar you. You have to shake it off, these people have problems and it makes them feel superior to make you feel inferior, but only if you let it.

No, only Jenny is asking for advice. I was trying to assist her with multiple quotes, but it didn't work for me either, so it's all clear now.
yeah, she was trying to assist jenny with multiple personalities...er, quotes :lol:


it surely is "all clear" now

yeah, she was trying to assist jenny with multiple personalities...er, quotes :lol:


it surely is "all clear" now
Hey Kim. Keep it up. If you want a fight, you're going to get one. I can not stand internet bullies and that's what you have turned into. You and you're little group...nothing but trolls...all of you.

Hey Kim. Keep it up. If you want a fight, you're going to get one. I can not stand internet bullies and that's what you have turned into. You and you're little group...nothing but trolls...all of you.
unfortunately, like everyone else that has been bannished, i'm not allowed to tell my side. anytime, i try to offer compelling proof that jenny/janice are 1 in the same it gets deleted.


guess someone has something to hide.

Jenny, I know it hurts. The person who said this is very cruel. You are such a nice person and don't deserve to be bullied by these internet bullies. I know they say that words don't hurt but they do especially when you've gone through things in your life that you've been through. I can't even imagine. All I can say is that you're better than these people. Whoever said this is nothing but a bully hiding behind a computer. Just remember that you have friends that will support you. :)

yeah, she was trying to assist jenny with multiple personalities...er, quotes :lol:


it surely is "all clear" now


Hey, Kim you know what is clear to me, you were somebody that always asked for prayers because your "husband" has cancer. Maybe you should worry more about him and his life than a ****ing message board with online friends.....idiot.

I feel embarrassed to write this, but I need some advice from my friends. If you don't consider me a friend, then please move on, because I've had all the bashing I can take. I was recently attacked, in a post, by a person that I've never done anything to at all. It was very mean. It was the cruelest thing anyone has ever said to me. I don't want to name the person, but many of you probably know what happened anyway. I've been very open about my life here. I was molested by my stepfather when I was a little girl. I was attacked in a holdup at gunpoint four years ago. This was all made worse by the fact that I am legally blind. I've learned that verbal abuse can hurt as much as physical abuse. Sometimes it's the scars you don't see that hurt the most.

I've been crying for two days and having nightmares. I can't get those cruel words out of my mind. I was in therapy for years but stopped. I have an appointment this week to see a therapist. I thought my days of being attacked were over. I'm trying to take hold of my emotions before they take hold of me. Has anyone ever been in a situation similar to this, where you've been verbally attacked, in public for no reason, by someone you barely knew? I appreciate any advice. I'm not trying to start any trouble on the boards, so please, don't go there. None of what this person wrote is true. I'm just so confused and sad.


Jenny, if anybody is bothering you let me know. I'll be glad to help you out in any way possible.

unfortunately, like everyone else that has been bannished, i'm not allowed to tell my side. anytime, i try to offer compelling proof that jenny/janice are 1 in the same it gets deleted.


guess someone has something to hide.
Tell me about it Kim. What have you got to hide? Hmmm.

And Jenny and Janice are not the same person....How dare you?

About 6 years ago I had a friend who was exposed as being someone else. A thread was made and she was banned. She finally proved that what was being said about her was not true.. I can not stand lynch mobs and that is what you and your friends have become. One person was banned. That was Kyle and that was because he cussed out Pavan. Maybe if he apologised, he could have come back but instead he sent his groupies over here to troll the board. I have no respect for any of you anymore.

Tell me about it Kim. What have you got to hide? Hmmm.

And Jenny and Janice are not the same person....How dare you?

About 6 years ago I had a friend who was exposed as being someone else. A thread was made and she was banned. She finally proved that what was being said about her was not true.. I can not stand lynch mobs and that is what you and your friends have become. One person was banned. That was Kyle and that was because he cussed out Pavan. Maybe if he apologised, he could have come back but instead he sent his groupies over here to troll the board. I have no respect for any of you anymore.
PLEASE BAN me before i become as brainwashed as you all are

Kim just sent me a pm, I could care less to read it. If you want to say something, have the guts to say it in the open.

PLEASE BAN me before i become as brainwashed as you all are



you do realize this is just a message board don't you?

PLEASE BAN me before i become as brainwashed as you all are
Brainwashed? That's a laugh. You don't know what you're talking about.

here's what i wrote brian :)
the janice/jenny brigade is here! i suppose i should be scared! <shudders>


you should talk, brian. you have a wife and 3 kids, stop obsessing over patricia heaton for a second and go tend to them

if you all think this about kyle you're sadly mistaken, its about the hypocrisy and double standards of how chit chat is run. kyle was just the straw that broke the camels back. there are plenty of people fed up with chit chat (more than janice/jenny leads you all to believe, upwards of 30)

not surprisingly brian is a first responder! thats shocking! where's jenny at with proclamations of janice worship?

here's what i wrote brian :)
the janice/jenny brigade is here! i suppose i should be scared! <shudders>


you should talk, brian. you have a wife and 3 kids, stop obsessing over patricia heaton for a second and go tend to them
What do you call yourself...... The Kyle brigade? :lol:

In the immortal words of Samuel L Jackson...

"well please allow me to retort"


This place is a message board, nothing more, nothing less. Your husband has "cancer" (yeah right) Tend to him, before he dies and all you are left with are online friends like Kyle Lutz and Mattie Avila. :lol:

What do you call yourself...... The Kyle brigade? :lol:
no, i cal myself someone without blinders on.

yeah, i definitely saw my post get deleted last night. it's back now. man, i was just about to make another dramatic exit over it.

kyle was just the straw that broke the camels back.


I personally hate to see anyone get banned but Kyle was given repeated warnings plus a suspension and immediately upon his return he started calling people vulgar names in the sports forum. He also couldn't have a civilized conversation without dropping F-bombs all over the place. :rolleyes:

geez, i had no idea this was going on. i thought i was alone. kim is probably right about the number of people fed up with this dictatorship of a board.

Jenny I hope you find peace within yourself as to what was said about you. You have always struck me as a kind person.

As for the rest of SO I hope the mood around here improves soon. I know people come and go and feelings change but right now the mood doesn't seem great to me.

I personally hate to see anyone get banned but Kyle was given repeated warnings plus a suspension and immediately upon his return he started calling people vulgar names in the sports forum. He also couldn't have a civilized conversation without dropping F-bombs all over the place. :rolleyes:
again this isn't about kyle, he was the last straw. there are a lot of people (upwards of 30 and counting) who are sick of the hypocrisy and double standards of chit chat. some are former members but believe it or not most are active among you. tj says in the farewell thread warning that the boards can survive if a few people leave - open your eyes! a few? more than a few have left - think of all the people you don't see around here anymore.

are you telling me they're all internet bullies? that they're all problematic trolls?

maybe the administrators need to look at their own actions instead of blaming it on "disgruntled" members.

Family Ties Forever,


I'm so very sorry that someone has chosen to be cruel to you. I hope you understand that when someone does that, it means that there is something very wrong with THEM, and it does not reflect upon you whatsoever.

Please don't allow this person to change your perspective on life, or make you feel one iota worse about yourself. My guess is the worst punishment we could wish on this person would be to have them continue in the obviously loveless, joyless trudge through cynicism and cruelty that has become their daily life. To hell with them; literally.

Take care and hold your head up. :)

Family ties forever............

There was a long time ago here on SO that I started to feel bad over some poster but I have moved on. Don't you ever............ let anyone make you feel any less about yourself. You've been here a long time and I know you are a good person. You have me on your side. :wave:

Holy Cow!!!


I go to work and come home and everyone's gone crazy! What the hell is going on here? Granted, Jenny and I have had our moments but making hateful comments toward her is just uncalled for. I thought we were done with drama around here, I'm personally sick of it! If you want drama, go back to high school! :rolleyes:

yeah, she was trying to assist jenny with multiple personalities..
Jenny doesn't have multiple personalities. Turns out you do with "ArchiesDingbat". Posting under multiple names. :nonono: If TJ didn't ban you, I'd suspend you.

geez, i had no idea this was going on. i thought i was alone. kim is probably right about the number of people fed up with this dictatorship of a board.
Who is a dictator, and who exactly has bothered you? You can't be referring to me, Sarah. I'm the Admin who sent you a sequined gown and earrings worth $450, among other things. If you are referring to me, then this has to be the most disgusting display of ungratefulness that I've ever seen in my entire life. I've always been kind to you.

Jenny I don't know you well at all, but I'm sorry that someone would do that to you :hug:

hunny,i'm so sorry that mean person said too you but please don't let words hurt you i mean there just that words they don't mean anything unless there nice ones of course! please cheer up and if you need to talk to us or me whatever do so i've gotton well "picked on" in my life so i know how bullies can be geez i could probley write a book about it! but please don't beat your self up over this its not worth it and your giving that person more power you know! so please don't think about it ok! :) its ok

Who is a dictator, and who exactly has bothered you? You can't be referring to me, Sarah. I'm the Admin who sent you a sequined gown and earrings worth $450, among other things. If you are referring to me, then this has to be the most disgusting display of ungratefulness that I've ever seen in my entire life. I've always been kind to you.
not you, the dictatorship comment was referring to being unable to get rid of my own account due to the rules (that you apparently didn't have say on). kyle got put on ignore, i couldn't have it happen to me at my own request....seems like it will take trolling/breaking rules for someone to silence me already. i don't want it anymore, i want it all gone, i don't want any trace of my existence here. sure i still post as long as long as this account is being forced into existence, but i don't contribute anything, just relieve boredom and bitch about how much this place in general drives me up a wall. what can i say that will get me put on ignore but not banned?

Holy Cow!!!


I go to work and come home and everyone's gone crazy! What the hell is going on here? Granted, Jenny and I have had our moments but making hateful comments toward her is just uncalled for. I thought we were done with drama around here, I'm personally sick of it! If you want drama, go back to high school! :rolleyes:
The answer is simple. Many don't want to follow rules here. When they're admonished, warned, suspended for not following the rules, their friends revolt and go nuts. They start breaking the rules, so in turn, they get admonished, warned and suspended. It's all about not wanting to follow some very reasonable rules here.

I NEVER bother anyone unless they're breaking rules, and even then, I give multiple warnings. The same goes for TJ, Pavan and Seth, who are very reasonable. Many other sites give members who publicly blast the staff the boot immediately. What reputable sites can you go to and make terrible threads about Adminstrators and get away with it? What site can you bitch and moan about the staff and site in various threads and get away with it? None that I know of. I go to a few sites, and I've seen members get thrown out on their ears at the first sign of trouble. That punk that was banned recently would have been long gone. I get criticized that I have friends. True, of course I do. My friends behave. They don't make threads about me, call me a dictator and every other name going. If they did, they wouldn't be my friends.

The problem here is that we give too many chances. So they keep up the trouble and their friends join them. We get called dictators, Hitler, etc. I guess since we're getting accused of it, we might as well act that way.

The answer is simple. Many don't want to follow rules here. When they're admonished, warned, suspended for not following the rules, their friends revolt and go nuts. They start breaking the rules, so in turn, they get admonished, warned and suspended. It's all about not wanting to follow some very reasonable rules here.

I NEVER bother anyone unless they're breaking rules, and even then, I give multiple warnings. The same goes for TJ, Pavan and Seth, who are very reasonable. Many other sites give members who publicly blast the staff the boot immediately. What reputable sites can you go to and make terrible threads about Adminstrators and get away with it? What site can you bitch and moan about the staff and site in various threads and get away with it? None that I know of. I go to a few sites, and I've seen members get thrown out on their ears at the first sign of trouble. That punk that was banned recently would have been long gone. I get criticized that I have friends. True, of course I do. My friends behave. They don't make threads about me, call me a dictator and every other name going. If they did, they wouldn't be my friends.

The problem here is that we give too many chances. So they keep up the trouble and their friends join them. We get called dictators, Hitler, etc. I guess since we're getting accused of it, we might as well act that way.
now guys lets knock its off now we're all here to help someone not fight with each other now please!

Janice, why are you on such an ego trip? Why rub Sarah's face in a nice thing you did for her? Its true that you have done nice things for many of us, and we're all very greatful for it. However, you don't have to remind us all about how nice you have been to us. In the beginning I stood up for you, even though you don't believe it, but what people have been saying about you is right. If anyone disagres with you, you and your posse are all over them. It makes me really sad to see this.
This is really pitiful Mike. I guess I'm one of the posse you're referring to? It is you who are on a trip. It's one thing to make a thread saying you're leaving SO but you didn't do that. You had to drag everything out on the board and bash members because you were angry. You know back in 2004...I did the same thing. I was so angry and I was wrong. I hurt people I really cared about. You are angry because you had a fight with Janice and Jenny and are taking it out on these boards. It doesn't make it right. Janice did do a lot for you. She's not asking for anything but it's disgusting the way you sided with Kyle like you did. And you did that long before that so called E-Mail that you read. I can bring out a whole bunch of garbage about you and everyone in your group. I haven't done that because it's not right and it will only add fuel to all this drama. It's too bad your side didn't do the same. You all say that you're leaving SO but the truth is you all live for this place and the drama. That's why you are all trolling this place lately.

We get called dictators, Hitler, etc
"hitler"? what are you doing, brightening key words to make me look like the bad guy? i never made a hitler reference and the dictator analogy was not about you, it was about this whole site.

hey Mike u piece of ****. maybe you don't realize how Janice stuck up for you when people were calling you a stalker. As far as the posse comment, you dumbass, how many of your clique am I going to see gang up on Janice?

"hitler"? what are you doing, brightening key words to make me look like the bad guy? i never made a hitler reference and the dictator analogy was not about you, it was about this whole site.
It wasn't you Sarah. Mattie called Janice, Hitler the other night in her thread.

The Hitler comment was a bit extreme, but you do have this additude that if someone disagrees with you, than they are wrong. You used to not be that way.
That's not true. I don't bother anyone unless they don't follow the rules. When they give me a hard time, they get one right back.

That's not true. I don't bother anyone unless they don't follow the rules. When they give me a hard time, they get one right back.

exactly....dang cowards

It wasn't you Sarah. Mattie called Janice, Hitler the other night in her thread.
ok, thanks.

You accuse me of taking sides Sonny, but who took Janice's side against me? Now lets see, I went out with friends on Saturday afternoon, what did you do? You're on this board way more than me. I am leaving, but I think people need to know what things are going on around here before they too are attacked.



What Sonny wants all of you to know, is that I stalked Kimberlee last summer! Okay, its there for everyone to see. Kim and I made up quite some tiem ago and both of us agreed we both said things that were harsh and not totally true. So you don't have to keep throwing my face in that.


Actually Mikey, you've stalked more than one girl here you damn loser.

"hitler"? what are you doing, brightening key words to make me look like the bad guy? i never made a hitler reference and the dictator analogy was not about you, it was about this whole site.
Never claimed you did.

That's not true. I don't bother anyone unless they don't follow the rules. When they give me a hard time, they get one right back.
people i'm not trying to get my self thrown into the fire too so excuse me if i yell! .....GROW UP YOU GUYS we're supposed to be helping someone with her problems and now we're yelling and fighting with each other over she said he said...i'm sorry but i don't think we're helping any just makeing things worse :mad: KNOCK IT OFF!!!! please i'm begging all of you lets just make peace and get back to the job at hand ok!

Brian, don't call members names, please. Watch now how he obeys the warning.

people i'm not trying to get my self thrown into the fire too so excuse me if i yell! .....GROW UP YOU GUYS we're supposed to be helping someone with her problems and now we're yelling and fighting with each other over she said he said...i'm sorry but i don't think we're helping any just makeing things worse :mad: KNOCK IT OFF!!!! please i'm begging all of you lets just make peace and get back to the job at hand ok!
Back off. Jenny knows we're talking about this.

You accuse me of taking sides Sonny, but who took Janice's side against me? Now lets see, I went out with friends on Saturday afternoon, what did you do? You're on this board way more than me. I am leaving, but I think people need to know what things are going on around here before they too are attacked.



What Sonny wants all of you to know, is that I stalked Kimberlee last summer! Okay, its there for everyone to see. Kim and I made up quite some tiem ago and both of us agreed we both said things that were harsh and not totally true. So you don't have to keep throwing my face in that.


Side...what side? You weren't involved in anything until you put your Damn self in it. You left CC immediately when all this went down. Damn it. I wasn't even online when this happened because my computer broke. The first thing I read when I got back was your E-Mail to me. And I didn't even get mad at you then. I did not blow up at you until you spammed the boards. In fact I was communicating with Kristin as well until she spammed the boards.

As for your comment on what did I do on Saturday...it's none of your Damn business. I'm not on SO that much on Saturday except in the evening. As a matter of fact, I'm not on as much as I used to be. I'm usually on between 6-8 at night and maybe a little after 11. Most of the time I'm in bed by midnight unless something is happening on the boards. And just because you don't post is no proof that you aren't on the computer. You could be on other websites or in your little group on FB planning your next attack. And that's right...you guys were the ones doing the attacking. You guys are worried so much about how many hours we're on the computer but you should be concerned with your own life. You guys have no life if you're getting this worked up over a message board. Good Heavens.

No you didn't stalk Kimberlee Mike. I never believed it and I never will. But How you can forgive all that so easy is beyond me? And I know a lot more Mike. You want the whole thing out here. I am sick and tired of all this. I thought you were better than this Mike. But if you are going to leave then leave.



Edit: Well it's been one year since this little fight with all you trolls. It's been very peaceful too.

Back off. Jenny knows we're talking about this.
hey don't yell at me ok i'm trying to be the "grown up" here

This coming from a married man who wets himself over Patricia Heaton. :lol:


:lol: I'd rather admire a beautiful celebrity than stalk women for real. Shall I break out all the pms of you stalking?

Never claimed you did.
twas my bad.

i am serious though, is there a way i can get put on global ignore specifically?

See, the man calls me a pieve of ****. What name did I call him? If I called him names, I would be banned. He however, isn't. That it the double standard.


kyle wasn't banned by me, he was banned by pavan for calling him a ****ing moron and told to stop and didn't.

Janice, why are you on such an ego trip? Why rub Sarah's face in a nice thing you did for her? Its true that you have done nice things for many of us, and we're all very greatful for it. However, you don't have to remind us all about how nice you have been to us. In the beginning I stood up for you, even though you don't believe it, but what people have been saying about you is right. If anyone disagres with you, you and your posse are all over them. It makes me really sad to see this.
Yeah, I'm on a real ego trip. :lol: My comment to Sarah doesn't concern you, but then again, you manage to work your way into every controversy. And again, I don't bother anyone unless they bother me.

twas my bad.

i am serious though, is there a way i can get put on global ignore specifically?
No, and it's not my call, but I know the answer is no.

You're a married man!

Am I sleeping with Patricia? Ummm no. I have a beautiful wife and three great kids. I don't need to stalk girls like you.

Am I sleeping with Patricia? Ummm no. I have a beautiful wife and three great kids. I don't need to stalk girls like you.
Don't forget a great home and broadcasting job. It's pretty lame when you have to have the fact that you like Patricia Heaton thrown up in your face. You've told me that your wife jokes about it with you.

Don't forget a great home and broadcasting job. It's pretty lame when you have to have the fact that you like Patricia Heaton thrown up in your face. You've told me that your wife jokes about it with you.

We do crack jokes about it. :lol:

You all say that you're leaving SO but the truth is you all live for this place and the drama. That's why you are all trolling this place lately.

Very well said Sonny ;) They LIVE for the drama, they say they're leaving, but are they gone? Nope.

I know I'm sick of the drama. I'm sick of bullies

I don't stalk any girls! And how do we know that you really have a wife and three kids at home? Just because you say that you do.


I actually have proof that you have stalked girls and I also have proof of a great family I have. You want me to present proof of both?

I don't stalk any girls! And how do we know that you really have a wife and three kids at home? Just because you say that you do.
He posts their pictures all over Facebook. Last summer, there were ones where his wife was sky high preggers. He has also posted pics of his wife and kids here, especially last year, when his youngest girl almost died and there was a huge prayer thread. I get a family picture Christmas card every year, but then again, I'm probably in on the conspiracy.

I don't work my way into every controversy. There are actually quite a few people here who like me. I've always tried to be carrying about my fellow members here.


Yes you do actually, I mean how many times have you stormed off this site like 5? 10? 20???

See, the man calls me a pieve of ****. What name did I call him? If I called him names, I would be banned. He however, isn't. That it the double standard.
People always get warned before they're suspended. Very few people get banned.

That proof was sent to you out of anger, Brian, and you know it. Sometimes when people have a falling out they say things about each other that they should not.

Also, I might add, isn't posting such a thing agaisnt regulations?
like you and everyone else in your group are doing now?

Kim didn't seem to mind doing it this morning. She also used another SN in this thread just to start all this trouble. I guess she is just misunderstood. :lol:

I thougth that you were my friend, Sonny. Five years you've known me, but you will not listen to a word I say.

And that other person was not Kim.
Yes it was Mike.

We were friends and I thought I knew you. I guess I was wrong.

I am not a bully. I have posted here for nearly seven years and I believe I've always been a good member of SO.

I don't know you well enough to say if you are or not, but I am going by what I'm reading in this thread. Janice & Brian(and a few others) are getting bullied by a few who think the board should be run their way

I'm just sick of all the nagging and whining. Really, I just want the place to calm down. How anyone can defend Kyle is just bonkers. Brian has never done anything even close to what Kyle did. Calling a top-level Admin ignorant and a f'kn moron. Just crazy. If Brian ever did that, I'd say to him, "Brian, listen. You screwed up in a BIG way, and you were dead wrong. The only chance you have of getting un-banned is to make a very sincere Public apology to Pavan. Time to grovel. It may not work, but Pavan is a forgiving guy, and TJ is as well. That's my advice to you"

That's what I would do. What did Kyle's friends do? They started attacking people and making accusations. Solomon and Brian do this and that, blah, blah. Janice this, Janice that. Kyles friends were no help to him whatsoever. Their approach was to try to make others look bad in an effort to take the heat off of Kyle. It didn't work.

Their approach was to try to make others look bad in an effort to take the heat off of Kyle. It didn't work.

I agree on this. Pure deflection, make others look bad, to try and make themselves look good.

Like that ever works LOL

It's okay. I appreciate the kind words from those who gave them [kind thoughts]. For those who were mean towards me I won't waste my time on you by responding.

people i'm not trying to get my self thrown into the fire too so excuse me if i yell! .....GROW UP YOU GUYS we're supposed to be helping someone with her problems and now we're yelling and fighting with each other over she said he said...i'm sorry but i don't think we're helping any just makeing things worse :mad: KNOCK IT OFF!!!! please i'm begging all of you lets just make peace and get back to the job at hand ok!
I'm sorry that I didn't explain things before. Jenny is fine now, well as fine as can be. I've been on the phone non-stop with her since this happened. She was hysterical at first, but after a LOT of talking, love and friendship, she's coming around. The terrible thing about this is that TJ removed the disgusting thread fast, and Jenny didn't see it, at first. However, beautifuldreamer PMd Jenny the section where she attacked her. It was unbelieveably cruel. I laughed at the part directed at me, but I haven't had terrible things happen to me in my life that Jenny has -- a father who abandoned her as a toddler, childhood sexual abuse, a holdup at gunpoint, and the fact that she was born about 80% blind. That's why that disgusting post hit her very hard.

Like that ever works LOL
A for Effort

E for Pulling it off, lol.

This is just sick. Mike, I thought I knew you better than that, and apparently I didn't know Kim AT ALL. ohno:

Jenny, I forgot to say it before, but I'm sorry this happened to you. I know that you and I have never really been close friends, but no one should get treated this way. I've been there and it's not fun. :( :hug:

I may lose some friends for this, but my "friends" would never act this way. Janice and I have a special bond, we both have Fibromyalgia and we just share a special connection. I care about her and I know what kind of horrible pain she goes through on a daily basis. If I were in her shoes, I probably wouldn't have the strength to get out of bed, but she does. She keeps a beautiful home for her and Lou and she cooks wonderful meals. She also takes the time to send special packages to her friends that will brighten your darkest days. Janice, you have a friend in me and you always will! :hug:

I'm sorry that I didn't explain things before. Jenny is fine now, well as fine as can be. I've been on the phone non-stop with her since this happened. She was hysterical at first, but after a LOT of talking, love and friendship, she's coming around. The terrible thing about this is that TJ removed the disgusting thread fast, and Jenny didn't see it, at first. However, beautifuldreamer PMd Jenny the section where she attacked her. It was unbelieveably cruel. I laughed at the part directed at me, but I haven't had terrible things happen to me in my life that Jenny has -- a father who abandoned her as a toddler, childhood sexual abuse, a holdup at gunpoint, and the fact that she was born about 80% blind. That's why that disgusting post hit her very hard.

Thank you Janice. I don't know what I would do without you. You are a very good friend and it means a lot to me. Thank you for your help and being there for me. I'm grateful that you are so kind hearted. My mother was very upset over how I was treated and what was said to me by beautifuldreamer.

...I thought this was supposed to be a forum to help Jenny and offer constructive advice, because she asked for it- instead, it's turned into one ongoing, overblown soap opera!

I'd like those who are currently quarreling amongst themselves to consider what Jenny is going through right now....and offer some constructive advice to her...after all, that's what she asked for in the first place. PLEASE.

I'll get off my soap box and shut up now.

:soapbox:

...I thought this was supposed to be a forum to help Jenny and offer constructive advice, because she asked for it- instead, it's turned into one ongoing, overblown soap opera!

I'd like those who are currently quarreling amongst themselves to consider what Jenny is going through right now....and offer some constructive advice to her...after all, that's what she asked for in the first place. PLEASE.

I'll get off my soap box and shut up now.

:soapbox:
The quarreling was because members were defending Jenny against the troublemakers. As for Jenny, she's fine. We spoke, and after reading this thread, she realizes how much people care for her now. She doesn't need the phonies who pretended to be her friends.

This is just sick. Mike, I thought I knew you better than that, and apparently I didn't know Kim AT ALL. ohno:

Jenny, I forgot to say it before, but I'm sorry this happened to you. I know that you and I have never really been close friends, but no one should get treated this way. I've been there and it's not fun. :( :hug:

I may lose some friends for this, but my "friends" would never act this way. Janice and I have a special bond, we both have Fibromyalgia and we just share a special connection. I care about her and I know what kind of horrible pain she goes through on a daily basis. If I were in her shoes, I probably wouldn't have the strength to get out of bed, but she does. She keeps a beautiful home for her and Lou and she cooks wonderful meals. She also takes the time to send special packages to her friends that will brighten your darkest days. Janice, you have a friend in me and you always will! :hug:
Thanks Lauren. Right back at ya! :hug:

Thank you Janice. I don't know what I would do without you. You are a very good friend and it means a lot to me. Thank you for your help and being there for me. I'm grateful that you are so kind hearted. My mother was very upset over how I was treated and what was said to me by beautifuldreamer.
Thanks Jenny. I don't know why you were chosen to be bullied. Like I said, just guilty of being my friend. As you can see by this thread, you've got a lot people who have your back. :hug:

I appreciate your clearing that up for me, Janice. Thank you.

:)

The quarreling was because members were defending Jenny against the troublemakers. As for Jenny, she's fine. We spoke, and after reading this thread, she realizes how much people care for her now. She doesn't need the phonies who pretended to be her friends.


That's right, Janice. Reading this thread has really made me feel good. I know it's not good for people to fight, but knowing that they are fighting for me has made me feel better. Thanks for calling me tonight. Also, thank you so much for defending me in this thread. It's just what I needed.

:bighug:

I told TJ privately, but I want to thank him again for being so quick to remove that terrible thread. I wish beautifuldreamer didn't PM and tell me to read it, but what's done is done. At least it didn't stay on the boards for all to see. Thank you TJ. :)

I appreciate your clearing that up for me, Janice. Thank you.

:)
Thanks for caring enough to inquire. I mean, you can't read people's minds, or can you? Just kidding with you, lol. :)

Jenny - I know we don't talk much, but always know that I've got your back. :) I know what it is like to live a life with many disabilities... It's tough, that's for sure. You have to never give up and keep going. I'm glad to see that everything is OK now.

And, wow. Way to hijack this thread, Kim and Mike. Congratulations. I bet you guys feel really good about that.

I'm glad Jenny is okay now

I appreciate your clearing that up for me, Janice. Thank you.

No offense, but Janice had already said that previously in this thread :)

Hi FTF and everyone else,

I would like to start out by saying that I am friends with Kyle and other people who have recently left SO. However, despite liking them and being friends with them, I have NO problem with ANY member here. I like this website and I plan to stay here and keep posting here.

I have sympathies with both "groups". I don't know the ins and outs of everything. I am just sorry that there seems to be a divide between certain people and it appears that certain friendships have been lost.

FTF (I don't feel I know you well enough to call you Jenny) - I'm sorry that you were so upset. I'm glad that you are feeling better now. I also get very upset over incidents like that and I can understand how you were feeling.

I don't know you very well, so I'm not quite sure what to say. I do want people on SO to understand, though, that I have no problems with any member here and I would never insult any of you or anything like that. As I said, I am friends with both groups of people and I want to remain friends with both groups.

i've been discussing this privately with mattie....again, with the exception of the attack of jenny, i still don't think anyone who's been bombarded with these "how dare you disrespect janice by not agreeing with her" posts have done anything out of line. we're entitled to an opinion of the board without accusations of personal betrayal. it's pretty interesting stuff. apparently, there is a backstabber in this very thread who i won't name.

i don't value my membership here, if i am banned for not following the crowd, that is totally fine. (nvm i'll probably get bitched at for this part)

i meant to get this out earlier, but if you find out through mutual friends that i'm dead, don't try to seek information about it. just accept it.

i meant to get this out earlier, but if you find out through mutual friends that i'm dead, don't try to seek information about it. just accept it.

Sarah, what's wrong? A few months ago you seemed reasonably content posting here - now you keep talking about committing suicide and wanting to be put on ignore.

I hope that I won't find out that you have died.

i've been discussing this privately with mattie....again, with the exception of the attack of jenny, i still don't think anyone who's been bombarded with these "how dare you disrespect janice by not agreeing with her" posts have done anything out of line. we're entitled to an opinion of the board without accusations of personal betrayal. it's pretty interesting stuff.
i still don't think anyone who's been bombarded with these "how dare you disrespect janice by not agreeing with her" posts have done anything out of line

Say what? Would you point me to a couple of those posts because I missed them. What does disagreeing with me have to do with anything? As far as moderating, I answer only to TJ, and he trusts my judgement. If a member breaks the rules, I do what I have to do. I think I'm a lenient moderator. I go weeks without issuing a warning. I step in if a member is swearing excessively or bothering another member. I think this is a case where members just don't want rules. The problem is that reputable websites have rules.

Yeah, Mattie's a sweetheart. She trashed Jenny for NO reason. They never exchanged a harsh word. How cruel can a person be. I'll post what she had to say about me because I don't care. I never had a fight with Mattie before. I never warned her, never gave her a hard time about anything. I don't know where her hate for me is coming from, and frankly I don't care.

Janice, I tried, I really did... for months, and for some reason, you always treated me like sh*t. I think what you're doing is extremely unfair, and dishonest.. and personally, I don't know how you can live with yourself every day, cause I sure as hell wouldn't be able to! I think you're a nasty bitch, and unbelievably controlling, and I would suggest you spend a little more time away from the internet.. you know, reading, watching TV, other things that normal people do, etc. You're here like, all F*U*C*K*in day, maybe you should find something else to do with your precious time! This board is supposed to be fun, and you're running it like Hitler, it's a message board, for God's sake, not a country... everything doesn't have to be YOUR way all the time! And for cryin out loud, let's be honest here for once.. you have a very specific group of people here who are willing to take every bullet for you, and kiss your fat ass anytime you ask for it!

She tried with me? Tried what? We never became friends, but not everyone on the board is friends. I don't spend a lot of time on the internet, at all. I'm not a nasty bitch, unless of course a nasty bitch gets in my way. Controlling? I have to control the forum which I moderate. I never tried to control Mattie or anyone. I didn't know that there are people who will take a bullet for me. Good to know.

Kim came on the board the other night, making an insane thread that seriously accused Jenny and I of being the same person. It was titled, "1 and the same?" Totally insane. Darren J. put his nasty two cents in as well. I've never bothered either one of them. It was ironic because Kim was posting under an alias on that very thread. Hypocrite. I think a lot of this comes down to Kyle getting banned. Not one of his friends had the good sense to talk him into apologizing. Instead, they all went into attack mode, and more people got banned, and now it's too late. Pavan banned Kyle, and TJ banned Mattie and Kim. In all cases, I didn't find out until after the fact. Members can't openly attack the Administrators at SO. Imagine that. Anyone want to tell me where that's allowed?

There's a lot of backstabbers here. People who pretend to be a friend, then gossip and bitch behind your back. Who cares. I'm so used to it. I know who my friends are here. I could count them on two hands, but I'm okay with that. I also think politics comes into play here. I know some people don't like me because I'm a Republican. Again, don't care. I'd like to see those posts you mentioned.

i still don't think anyone who's been bombarded with these "how dare you disrespect janice by not agreeing with her" posts have done anything out of line

Say what? Would you point me to a couple of those posts because I missed them. What does disagreeing with me have to do with anything? As far as moderating, I answer only to TJ, and he trusts my judgement. If a member breaks the rules, I do what I have to do. I think I'm a lenient moderator. I go weeks without issuing a warning. I step in if a member is swearing excessively or bothering another member. I think this is a case where members just don't want rules. The problem is that reputable websites have rules.

Yeah, Mattie's a sweetheart. She trashed Jenny for NO reason. They never exchanged a harsh word. How cruel can a person be. I'll post what she had to say about me because I don't care. I never had a fight with Mattie before. I never warned her, never gave her a hard time about anything. I don't know where her hate for me is coming from, and frankly I don't care.

Janice, I tried, I really did... for months, and for some reason, you always treated me like sh*t. I think what you're doing is extremely unfair, and dishonest.. and personally, I don't know how you can live with yourself every day, cause I sure as hell wouldn't be able to! I think you're a nasty bitch, and unbelievably controlling, and I would suggest you spend a little more time away from the internet.. you know, reading, watching TV, other things that normal people do, etc. You're here like, all F*U*C*K*in day, maybe you should find something else to do with your precious time! This board is supposed to be fun, and you're running it like Hitler, it's a message board, for God's sake, not a country... everything doesn't have to be YOUR way all the time! And for cryin out loud, let's be honest here for once.. you have a very specific group of people here who are willing to take every bullet for you, and kiss your fat ass anytime you ask for it!

She tried with me? Tried what? We never became friends, but not everyone on the board is friends. I don't spend a lot of time on the internet, at all. I'm not a nasty bitch, unless of course a nasty bitch gets in my way. Controlling? I have to control the forum which I moderate. I never tried to control Mattie or anyone. I didn't know that there are people who will take a bullet for me. Good to know.

Kim came on the board the other night, making an insane thread that seriously accused Jenny and I of being the same person. It was titled, "1 and the same?" Totally insane. Darren J. put his nasty two cents in as well. I've never bothered either one of them. It was ironic because Kim was posting under an alias on that very thread. Hypocrite. I think a lot of this comes down to Kyle getting banned. Not one of his friends had the good sense to talk him into apologizing. Instead, they all went into attack mode, and more people got banned, and now it's too late. Pavan banned Kyle, and TJ banned Mattie and Kim. In all cases, I didn't find out until after the fact. Members can't openly attack the Administrators at SO. Imagine that. Anyone want to tell me where that's allowed?

There's a lot of backstabbers here. People who pretend to be a friend, then gossip and bitch behind your back. Who cares. I'm so used to it. I know who my friends are here. I could count them on two hands, but I'm okay with that. I also think politics comes into play here. I know some people don't like me because I'm a Republican. Again, don't care. I'd like to see those posts you mentioned.

Wow, what Mattie said to you is awful! I think her attack on you and on me shows what kind of person she really is. She was out of line for saying what she did.

I always thought Mattie came off as so sweet, so this is a complete shock to read. I'm sorry she said those things to you, Jenny and Janice. Whenever someone has to resort to name calling, it's over as far as I'm concerned. When they have to go to that level, they don't have any ground to stand.

^ I agree. IMO name calling is a last ditch effort. Name calling reeks of desperation. If a person can't get their point across without resorting to name calling, obviously they never had a point to begin with.

Janice I'm sorry that someone would say that to you.

Members can't openly attack the Administrators at SO. Imagine that. Anyone want to tell me where that's allowed?

LOL not anywhere I can think of, that's why I'm continually baffled that some think it's allowed to happen here.

I would hate to be a new poster stumbling on this thread from another category like hippiechick60.

I would hate to be a new poster stumbling on this thread from another category like hippiechick60.
hippiechick60 has been a member for over three years. I'm glad that Kyle aka Wreckless is gone. His language was disgusting at the Sport's forum. I'm sure if a new person was lurking, they would never sign up.

Sarah, what's wrong? A few months ago you seemed reasonably content posting here - now you keep talking about committing suicide and wanting to be put on ignore.

I hope that I won't find out that you have died.
because i have no place. it's not something someone else made me feel, it's what i decided with my own judgment....i've pushed people away recently, and the problem isn't in them, it is in me. i bid thee farewell, SO.

Hi FTF and everyone else,

I would like to start out by saying that I am friends with Kyle and other people who have recently left SO. However, despite liking them and being friends with them, I have NO problem with ANY member here. I like this website and I plan to stay here and keep posting here.

I have sympathies with both "groups". I don't know the ins and outs of everything. I am just sorry that there seems to be a divide between certain people and it appears that certain friendships have been lost.

FTF (I don't feel I know you well enough to call you Jenny) - I'm sorry that you were so upset. I'm glad that you are feeling better now. I also get very upset over incidents like that and I can understand how you were feeling.

I don't know you very well, so I'm not quite sure what to say. I do want people on SO to understand, though, that I have no problems with any member here and I would never insult any of you or anything like that. As I said, I am friends with both groups of people and I want to remain friends with both groups.
I feel the same way.

I'm just gonna pray that everyone finds the peace they're looking for.

i still don't think anyone who's been bombarded with these "how dare you disrespect janice by not agreeing with her" posts have done anything out of line

Say what? Would you point me to a couple of those posts because I missed them. What does disagreeing with me have to do with anything? As far as moderating, I answer only to TJ, and he trusts my judgement. If a member breaks the rules, I do what I have to do. I think I'm a lenient moderator. I go weeks without issuing a warning. I step in if a member is swearing excessively or bothering another member. I think this is a case where members just don't want rules. The problem is that reputable websites have rules.

Yeah, Mattie's a sweetheart. She trashed Jenny for NO reason. They never exchanged a harsh word. How cruel can a person be. I'll post what she had to say about me because I don't care. I never had a fight with Mattie before. I never warned her, never gave her a hard time about anything. I don't know where her hate for me is coming from, and frankly I don't care.

Janice, I tried, I really did... for months, and for some reason, you always treated me like sh*t. I think what you're doing is extremely unfair, and dishonest.. and personally, I don't know how you can live with yourself every day, cause I sure as hell wouldn't be able to! I think you're a nasty bitch, and unbelievably controlling, and I would suggest you spend a little more time away from the internet.. you know, reading, watching TV, other things that normal people do, etc. You're here like, all F*U*C*K*in day, maybe you should find something else to do with your precious time! This board is supposed to be fun, and you're running it like Hitler, it's a message board, for God's sake, not a country... everything doesn't have to be YOUR way all the time! And for cryin out loud, let's be honest here for once.. you have a very specific group of people here who are willing to take every bullet for you, and kiss your fat ass anytime you ask for it!

She tried with me? Tried what? We never became friends, but not everyone on the board is friends. I don't spend a lot of time on the internet, at all. I'm not a nasty bitch, unless of course a nasty bitch gets in my way. Controlling? I have to control the forum which I moderate. I never tried to control Mattie or anyone. I didn't know that there are people who will take a bullet for me. Good to know.

Kim came on the board the other night, making an insane thread that seriously accused Jenny and I of being the same person. It was titled, "1 and the same?" Totally insane. Darren J. put his nasty two cents in as well. I've never bothered either one of them. It was ironic because Kim was posting under an alias on that very thread. Hypocrite. I think a lot of this comes down to Kyle getting banned. Not one of his friends had the good sense to talk him into apologizing. Instead, they all went into attack mode, and more people got banned, and now it's too late. Pavan banned Kyle, and TJ banned Mattie and Kim. In all cases, I didn't find out until after the fact. Members can't openly attack the Administrators at SO. Imagine that. Anyone want to tell me where that's allowed?

There's a lot of backstabbers here. People who pretend to be a friend, then gossip and bitch behind your back. Who cares. I'm so used to it. I know who my friends are here. I could count them on two hands, but I'm okay with that. I also think politics comes into play here. I know some people don't like me because I'm a Republican. Again, don't care. I'd like to see those posts you mentioned.
That was just an awful post that Mattie made. Everything in it was full of hate.You sure didn't deserve that Janice and neither did anybody else that was mentioned in it. Mike said that they were going to make a post or a thread for me but he talked them out of it. He wanted me to thank him. I don't think I ever said anything bad to Kim or Mattie before this started and although I had fights with Kyle, there were times that we did get along. It's too bad his friends chose to go on the attack. It never works.

I just wanna say this to a general audience. NOT pointed to anyone in general. I have ZERO interest in taking sides. I think it's ****ing stupid, anyway.

YOU cause trouble... YOU fix it yourself. Just about all of us are over 18, here. Age of the adults who know better than that. Don't get a group to help you do your dirty work. I can accomplish that just fine on my own. I actually depise group effects, anyway. I answer to nobody, only myself.

I have no problems with anybody here (aka the ones who are CURRENT members), but my god. Some of the behavior I've been seeing in this thread... GROW THE **** UP. I'm TWENTY-FOUR, and the immature behavior is coming from people *OLDER* than me. You're over 18, you know how to use words in a way to settle arguments that don't make you look like a five-year-old with Tourette Syndrome.

This is the ****ing INTERNET. Apologize. Step back. If necessary, get the **** out of here and don't come back.

P.S. In reference to a post from a few pages back... Brian probably saves his correspondence for the same reasons I do... Because he can, and it comes in handy. These days, with virtually unlimited inbox space everywhere, why would anyone need to delete anything? I mean, FFS, on here you have the ability to save 25,000 messages. I doubt anyone here, in SO's 10 years, have come close to filling their PM inbox.

P.P.S. I was just in a similar situation recently elsewhere in real life. I NICELY asked this guy to please SLOW DOWN with what he was doing. In return, I got an angry message from him on Facebook in where he called me an *******. I replied to him later, and told him I thought he was an ******* too and that I was cutting off all communications with him because I didn't want to talk to hiim anymore. Snap. Just like that. I even wrote a note about it, too. I suggest these of you who have me as a friend on there check out my note entitled You NEVER treat me like this. Ever. You call me a name and then mean it... **** you, I don't wanna talk to you. Simple as that.

i've been discussing this privately with mattie....again, with the exception of the attack of jenny, i still don't think anyone who's been bombarded with these "how dare you disrespect janice by not agreeing with her" posts have done anything out of line.
Still waiting, Sarah. Since people were being "bombarded", it should be easy to point me to at least three examples. How about backing up your claim. You made a post, using my name to make your point, so I'm not letting up until you either prove it or admit you're lying. Also, I'm not sure why you threw in "been discussing this privately with mattie". As if that carries any weight. That creep viciously attacked people here who never did anything to her. Better watch your back with that psycho.

I just wanna say this to a general audience. NOT pointed to anyone in general. I have ZERO interest in taking sides. I think it's ****ing stupid, anyway.

YOU cause trouble... YOU fix it yourself. Just about all of us are over 18, here. Age of the adults who know better than that. Don't get a group to help you do your dirty work. I can accomplish that just fine on my own. I actually depise group effects, anyway. I answer to nobody, only myself.

I have no problems with anybody here (aka the ones who are CURRENT members), but my god. Some of the behavior I've been seeing in this thread... GROW THE **** UP. I'm TWENTY-FOUR, and the immature behavior is coming from people *OLDER* than me. You're over 18, you know how to use words in a way to settle arguments that don't make you look like a five-year-old with Tourette Syndrome.

This is the ****ing INTERNET. Apologize. Step back. If necessary, get the **** out of here and don't come back.

props: :clap :clap :clap

It is really sad what this board has become. ohno: I have stayed out of this because quite frankly the whole thing is stupid.

I sincerely believe that things will be more peaceful on Chit Chat from this point on. The reason is that those who were attacking the Administrators are banned. Those who tried to defend them got nowhere because that behavior is indefensible, so I truly believe that the worst is behind us. All I want is peace.

peacesign:

I sincerely believe that things will be more peaceful on Chit Chat from this point on. The reason is that those who were attacking the Administrators are banned. Those who tried to defend them got nowhere because that behavior is indefensible, so I truly believe that the worst is behind us. All I want is peace.

peacesign:

I agree. All I want to see is peace on the boards as well. I don't like seeing people bullied. I'm glad that the trouble makers are gone. I think this place will be a lot better now. :)

I hope everything on CC will now be peaceful. I wouldn't have gotten into any fights in this thread if people weren't being attacked. I'm sorry that the rest of you had to see all this. SO is a wonderful website with great members who share a lot in common. Hopefully everything will get back to normal now. That's what I'm hoping for.

Jen, I really am sorry about what you are going through, and how much you were hurt by what was said. I know what you are referring to, and you did not deserve that. I'm in a tough situation because of how I've been toward you lately myself, and because it was a friend of mine who said it, but it was untrue, and it wasn't right. I don't care who said that stuff, it was wrong no matter who said it. God knows I've made my mistakes with you, and it has been in this last month that I've realized as clear as day what an incredible person you are. Just one week ago I was in tears, and unable to look in the mirror because of what I've done to some of my closest friends. I've taken them for granted, and you are at the top of the list of those who I've taken for granted. I am so sorry for every time I have betrayed you, and talked negatively about you. You have never done anything but be good to me, and I can never thank you enough for that. Your quiet strength inspires me to be a better and more humble person. Don't let the words of a stranger bring you down. I know it's hard, but you are too good for that. I'm just sorry it took me this long to realize it. I love you Jen, and hang in there!! :heart: :hug:

props: :clap :clap :clap

It is really sad what this board has become. ohno: I have stayed out of this because quite frankly the whole thing is stupid.

I've been staying out of it myself, as well. I've said it before, I seriously don't have the time for things like that. Work, being an adult, etc. I just don't have the desire to keep up with stuff like I used to. And with the occasional real-life drama, why the **** would I want to come here and participate in lolinternet drama? **** that.

So, it caused me to lose like 5 SO people on FB. That's cool with me. I'm not interested in being friends with repeat flouncers, people who post under another username to be a total *******, people who make fun of other people behind their backs, etc. I have a low tolerance for these types of people anyway. :)

I sincerely believe that things will be more peaceful on Chit Chat from this point on. The reason is that those who were attacking the Administrators are banned. Those who tried to defend them got nowhere because that behavior is indefensible, so I truly believe that the worst is behind us. All I want is peace.

peacesign:


I agree with you Janice. I hope that we can all move forward from that fiasco and have a pleasant and peaceful board.

I've been staying out of it myself, as well. I've said it before, I seriously don't have the time for things like that. Work, being an adult, etc. I just don't have the desire to keep up with stuff like I used to. And with the occasional real-life drama, why the **** would I want to come here and participate in lolinternet drama? **** that.

So, it caused me to lose like 5 SO people on FB. That's cool with me. I'm not interested in being friends with repeat flouncers, people who post under another username to be a total *******, people who make fun of other people behind their backs, etc. I have a low tolerance for these types of people anyway. :)
Amen, Allison, Amen.
Jenny, I am so sorry that you had to go through this childish ordeal; some people thrive on drama; but sooner than later, they will all turn againest each other. Remember, what comes around GOES around. After what I read what a certain former member said, I decided not associate myself with that person. I even deleted my FB account. I also know that we do not know each other well, but if you EVER need someone to talk to, I am there for you:)

Amen, Allison, Amen.
Jenny, I am so sorry that you had to go through this childish ordeal; some people thrive on drama; but sooner than later, they will all turn againest each other. Remember, what comes around GOES around. After what I read what a certain former member said, I decided not associate myself with that person. I even deleted my FB account. I also know that we do not know each other well, but if you EVER need someone to talk to, I am there for you:)

Thank you Tara. :)

Thank you Tara. :)
You are more than welcome:)