View Full Version : B&W vs. Color


Bonsai
11-01-2009, 07:11 PM
When I got Seasons 1 and 2 on DVD, I made sure to get the B&W sets. I don't mind the colorized episodes and I think they did a good job, but I wanted them the way they were originally produced.

Did anyone else do this? :)

catlover79
11-01-2009, 11:14 PM
I own the first 5 seasons and bought them all the day they came out. The stores in my area only carried the colorized versions, so that's what I got. But I paid more attention to the stories than to the fact that they were colorized. Season 1, I think, is probably my favorite season. It was so new and fresh, and it was also fun to see Sam and Darrin as newlyweds - the only full season before they became parents.

Larry Tate
11-02-2009, 02:40 AM
When I got Seasons 1 and 2 on DVD, I made sure to get the B&W sets. I don't mind the colorized episodes and I think they did a good job, but I wanted them the way they were originally produced.

Did anyone else do this? :)

Actually the Black & White sets were not as they were originally produced, in fact after they were restored they were in effect grey scaled so they look exactly as the color ones do with the color turned right off.

If you saw them on N@N or on the Columbia House VHS factory tapes you see that the shadows, contrast, texture & actual Black & White colors look very different then the way they looked in the B/W DVD sets.

I also have the original 16mm prints for many of the B/W episodes & can see exactly how they looked back in 1964 to 1966 in glorious Black & White which is not how they looked on the B/W DVD sets.

I got the Colorized DVD sets for the first 2 seasons & as such i got both of them at the same time if i want to turn off the colour.

Larry Tate :)

gidgetgrape
11-02-2009, 09:09 AM
I fell in love with the colorized version when the episodes aired on The Hallmark Channel, so I bought the colorized version.

MickeyMac
11-02-2009, 02:26 PM
There is no way in hell I would consider watching the colorized version of this or any other show.


I hate it so much when they colorize black and white footage :mad: :mad:
it looks cheap and phoney, and I like black and white, it caputures and era long gone.


It was made in black and white, black and white all the way for me.

Larry Tate
11-02-2009, 02:40 PM
There is no way in hell I would consider watching the colorized version of this or any other show.


I hate it so much when they colorize black and white footage :mad: :mad:
it looks cheap and phony, and I like black and white, it captures an era long gone.
It was made in black and white, black and white all the way for me.

In many cases especially in the examples from back in the mid 1980's when colorization started such as Gilligan's Island they were really bad.

But with the advances in technology things were completely different when Bewitched was colorized.

I think they did a fantastic job in colorizing Bewitched, it looks excellent & very realistic, almost as if it had been filmed that way.

I think getting the Colorized versions gives one a two for one rather then being limited to only B/W in the Black & White DVD sets.

I alternate in my viewing rotations of all the episodes, one time in color & one time in Black & White, this adds greatly i feel to the Bewitched experience it gives me.

Larry Tate :)

MickeyMac
11-02-2009, 02:50 PM
In many cases especially in the examples from back in the mid 1980's when colorization started such as Gilligan's Island they were really bad.

But with the advances in technology things were completely different when Bewitched was colorized.

I think they did a fantastic job in colorizing Bewitched, it looks excellent & very realistic, almost as if it had been filmed that way.

I think getting the Colorized versions gives one a two for one rather then being limited to only B/W in the Black & White DVD sets.

I alternate in my viewing rotations of all the episodes, one time in color & one time in Black & White, this adds greatly i feel to the Bewitched experience it gives me.

Larry Tate :)



We are going to have to agree to disagree on this matter. :)

gidgetgrape
11-02-2009, 03:12 PM
I think it's amazing that Sony even gave us a choice.

Larry Tate
11-02-2009, 06:27 PM
We are going to have to agree to disagree on this matter. :)

Cool, i must say one thing i always liked about the B/W episodes is that they had a more Witchy, spooky, early 1960's, New York feel to them then the color episodes which always had a more late 1960's, LA feel to them i thought.

B/W does allow one to create an ambiance that is very unique that you just can't do in Color.

Larry Tate :)

MrCleveland
11-02-2009, 06:54 PM
I have to say...color.

the truth
11-02-2009, 08:11 PM
Larry, I will ask one favor....I know you usually make every effort to anyway, but when you post, please feel free to post as many EM pictures as you can. I can imagine from reading your posts that you've got tons of them since you have so much of Liz's collective works. But yeah, the more, the better! And thanks for the above ones as well. :D

Larry Tate
11-02-2009, 09:00 PM
Larry, I will ask one favor....I know you usually make every effort to anyway, but when you post, please feel free to post as many EM pictures as you can. I can imagine from reading your posts that you've got tons of them since you have so much of Liz's collective works. But yeah, the more, the better! And thanks for the above ones as well. :D

Thank you, i have about 1000 8/10 photos of La La Liz in my collection.
Check out these past threads & you will find hundreds of them that i have already posted, but i will post more as well in my future posts.

I posted 99% of them in the first thread (the best of the three) & many of mine as well were reposted to the following two threads as well for fans to enjoy.

Larry Tate :)

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=70876&page=2

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photopost/showgallery.php/cat/750

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photopost/showgallery.php/cat/893

the truth
11-02-2009, 10:59 PM
Awesome, thanks!

I know what I'll be doing for quite a while. :happyface

comedyfreak
11-03-2009, 06:51 AM
The second picture in the middle Liz has that Serena look.

MickeyMac
11-03-2009, 11:15 AM
To anybody who wants to post any pics of Liz Montgomery, please do so.:happyface

catlover79
11-03-2009, 03:10 PM
To anybody who wants to post any pics of Liz Montgomery, please do so.:happyface
I knew you were going to say that at some point. :lol:

the truth
11-03-2009, 04:26 PM
Some Samantha....

http://img206.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-8175/loc396/78845_sam01_122_396lo.jpg
http://img266.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-26186/loc31/78971_sam04_122_31lo.jpg
http://img234.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-26650/loc366/79133_sam07_122_366lo.jpg
http://img183.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-23100/loc236/79523_sam05_122_236lo.jpg
http://img270.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-30280/loc567/99418_em94_122_567lo.jpghttp://img138.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-14118/loc427/99563_em99_122_427lo.jpghttp://img250.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-4984/loc538/99642_em104_122_538lo.jpghttp://img133.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-21377/loc137/99664_em106_122_137lo.jpghttp://img214.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-7485/loc131/91779_em108_122_131lo.jpghttp://img9.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-31964/loc471/91786_em111_122_471lo.jpghttp://img269.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-5008/loc452/91788_em113_122_452lo.jpghttp://img142.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=91792_em116_122_1062lo.jpghttp://img15.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=38415_em119_122_565lo.jpghttp://img175.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-8384/loc215/91788_em114_122_215lo.jpg

the truth
11-03-2009, 04:39 PM
And others....

http://img161.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=76963_sam04_122_110lo.jpg
http://img244.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-5144/loc181/48277_em127_122_181lo.jpg
http://img202.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-15452/loc28/76981_sam06_122_28lo.jpg
http://img233.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-26808/loc416/48276_em126_122_416lo.jpg
http://img245.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-20995/loc532/78349_sam02_122_532lo.jpg
http://img147.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-10633/loc373/78346_sam03_122_373lo.jpg
http://img245.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-20995/loc461/08449_em141_122_461lo.jpg
http://img244.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-5144/loc361/48269_em139_122_361lo.jpg
http://img176.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-9324/loc591/38414_em118_122_591lo.jpg
http://img198.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-22673/loc1094/38416_em123_122_1094lo.jpg
http://img268.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-3495/loc208/38425_em121_122_208lo.jpg
http://img245.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-28439/loc532/78349_sam02_122_532lo.jpg

MickeyMac
11-03-2009, 07:07 PM
Truth your pics didnt come out, or its this PC.

MickeyMac
11-03-2009, 07:08 PM
I knew you were going to say that at some point. :lol:



Surprising huh :D

the truth
11-03-2009, 08:52 PM
Truth your pics didnt come out, or its this PC.

It's really odd. They started disappearing when I was previewing them and now they're all gone on both posts. I had about 12 or so on each one. Don't know why they've vanished. When I hit edit, the link source does show up so I don't know what the problem is? :confused: Does this site allow Image Venue hosted pics to show up?

Here's one I like from PostImage, does it show up?....

http://s2.postimage.org/DiECi.jpg

catlover79
11-03-2009, 09:33 PM
It's really odd. They started disappearing when I was previewing them and now they're all gone on both posts. I had about 12 or so on each one. Don't know why they've vanished. When I hit edit, the link source does show up so I don't know what the problem is? :confused: Does this site allow Image Venue hosted pics to show up?

Here's one I like from PostImage, does it show up?....

http://s2.postimage.org/DiECi.jpg
This one showed up, at least on my computer.

the truth
11-03-2009, 09:57 PM
Cool, here's some others....

http://s2.postimage.org/DnXRr.jpg
http://s2.postimage.org/Dp1ci.jpg
http://s2.postimage.org/Dp3Hr.jpg
http://s2.postimage.org/Dp6bA.jpg
http://s2.postimage.org/DoZI9.jpg
http://s2.postimage.org/DpbaS.jpg
http://s2.postimage.org/DpdG0.jpg
http://s2.postimage.org/Dpga9.jpg
http://s2.postimage.org/DpiFi.jpg
http://s2.postimage.org/DpsDS.jpg
http://s2.postimage.org/DpnEA.jpg
http://s2.postimage.org/DpxD9.jpg
http://s2.postimage.org/DpCCr.jpg
http://s2.postimage.org/DpMB0.jpg
http://s2.postimage.org/DpHBJ.jpg

catlover79
11-03-2009, 10:05 PM
Great pics!! :cool:

the truth
11-03-2009, 10:07 PM
Hey, one thing I'd like to add on the color v B/W thing is that even as improved as the colorization has become, it's interesting that the one thing they tend to have trouble with is the color white. Eyeballs and teeth never seem to come out quite right when you watch a colorized episode. Just look at the pic below (I forget the episode).....

http://s2.postimage.org/DpP59.jpg

Whites seem to be more gray than white. Maybe it's just because eyes and teeth aren't actually pure white so it's tough to make them realistic. The other colors seem fine, even the generated light in the background is pretty realistic but a human's white features seem to be the giveaway if you're trying to determine if an episode's been colorized or not.

catlover79
11-03-2009, 10:23 PM
Hey, one thing I'd like to add on the color v B/W thing is that even as improved as the colorization has become, it's interesting that the one thing they tend to have trouble with is the color white. Eyeballs and teeth never seem to come out quite right when you watch a colorized episode. Just look at the pic below (I forget the episode).....

http://s2.postimage.org/DpP59.jpg

Whites seem to be more gray than white. Maybe it's just because eyes and teeth aren't actually pure white so it's tough to make them realistic. The other colors seem fine, even the generated light in the background is pretty realistic but a human's white features seem to be the giveaway if you're trying to determine if an episode's been colorized or not.
That episode was from Season 2 - "What Every Young Man Should Know".

the truth
11-03-2009, 10:28 PM
More pics....

http://s2.postimage.org/Dp8GJ.jpg
http://s2.postimage.org/Dpv80.jpg
http://s2.postimage.org/DpA7i.jpg
http://s2.postimage.org/DpF6A.jpg
http://s2.postimage.org/DpK5S.jpg
http://s2.postimage.org/DpRAi.jpg
http://s4.postimage.org/1KkA1A.jpg
http://s4.postimage.org/1Kkv2i.jpg
http://s4.postimage.org/1KkWtS.jpg
http://s4.postimage.org/1KkYZ0.jpg
http://s4.postimage.org/1Kl0t9.jpg
http://s4.postimage.org/1Kl2Yi.jpg
http://s4.postimage.org/1KkF0S.jpg
http://s4.postimage.org/1KkTZJ.jpg
http://s4.postimage.org/1KkRuA.jpg

the truth
11-03-2009, 10:51 PM
http://s4.postimage.org/1Kkl3J.jpg
http://s4.postimage.org/1KkizA.jpg
http://s4.postimage.org/1KkK09.jpg
http://s4.postimage.org/1KkO_r.jpg
http://s2.postimage.org/DyrRi.jpg
http://s4.postimage.org/1KmhhJ.jpg
http://s4.postimage.org/1KmtLr.jpg
http://s4.postimage.org/1KmjMS.jpg
http://s4.postimage.org/1Kmmh0.jpg
http://s4.postimage.org/1KmoM9.jpg
http://s4.postimage.org/1Kmrgi.jpg

comedyfreak
11-04-2009, 12:45 AM
Great pics!!:D

MickeyMac
11-04-2009, 12:15 PM
Keep them coming. :happyface

catlover79
11-04-2009, 01:09 PM
Keep them coming. :happyface
I think I know who your new favorite poster is. :lol:

MickeyMac
11-04-2009, 04:02 PM
I think I know who your new favorite poster is. :lol:



LOL :D

the truth
11-04-2009, 05:43 PM
More Samantha captures....

http://s4.postimage.org/1QBh0J.jpg
http://s4.postimage.org/1QBjvS.jpg
http://s4.postimage.org/1QBm00.jpg :p
http://s4.postimage.org/1QBq_i.jpg
http://s4.postimage.org/1QBtur.jpg
http://s4.postimage.org/1QBvZA.jpg
http://s4.postimage.org/1QBytJ.jpg
http://s4.postimage.org/1QBDt0.jpg

The Salem Statue....

http://s4.postimage.org/1QBFY9-f51dc6fbc62ff834d04da18a4f2c23e7.jpg
http://s4.postimage.org/1QBIsi-f51dc6fbc62ff834d04da18a4f2c23e7.jpg
http://s4.postimage.org/1QBKXr-f51dc6fbc62ff834d04da18a4f2c23e7.jpg
http://s4.postimage.org/1QBc1r-f51dc6fbc62ff834d04da18a4f2c23e7.jpg

The Mona Sammy!

http://s4.postimage.org/1QBewA.jpg

catlover79
11-04-2009, 05:46 PM
^ Unfortunately, the Salem Statue pics didn't come out. :(

the truth
11-04-2009, 05:55 PM
Really? I see all four.

How about this one a bit smaller?.....

http://s2.postimage.org/NnSFi-f51dc6fbc62ff834d04da18a4f2c23e7.jpg

catlover79
11-04-2009, 06:19 PM
Really? I see all four.

How about this one a bit smaller?.....

http://s2.postimage.org/NnSFi-f51dc6fbc62ff834d04da18a4f2c23e7.jpg
It's still not showing up. :(

the truth
11-04-2009, 06:40 PM
I can try imagevenue again, but that's where they were disappearing from yesterday. How's this one?....
http://img177.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-23678/loc108/35461_samantha05_122_108lo.jpg

Can everyone else see them? Odd because I can see them all.

catlover79
11-04-2009, 07:49 PM
I can try imagevenue again, but that's where they were disappearing from yesterday. How's this one?....
http://img177.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-23678/loc108/35461_samantha05_122_108lo.jpg

Can everyone else see them? Odd because I can see them all.
Nope, sorry. :(

the truth
11-04-2009, 08:27 PM
Yeah, I can't see the imagevenue pic either now, that's why I went with post image starting yesterday. I can see all four of the originals though, so I don't know what the deal is with it. :confused:

catlover79
11-05-2009, 11:09 AM
Yeah, I can't see the imagevenue pic either now, that's why I went with post image starting yesterday. I can see all four of the originals though, so I don't know what the deal is with it. :confused:
Keep trying!

the truth
11-05-2009, 01:04 PM
Keep trying!

On imagevenue, I created a gallery of the Salem pics. Here's a link...

http://img188.imagevenue.com/gallery/loc865/12_1646_Samantha_Statue.php

Now, I usually have to log on there so I don't know if you all can access it or not. It's back to work now, so let me know if you can get in there or not. If not, we'll try something else. :lol:

Larry Tate
11-05-2009, 01:37 PM
On imagevenue, I created a gallery of the Salem pics. Here's a link...

http://img188.imagevenue.com/gallery/loc865/12_1646_Samantha_Statue.php

Now, I usually have to log on there so I don't know if you all can access it or not. It's back to work now, so let me know if you can get in there or not. If not, we'll try something else. :lol:

Are they these photos of Samantha in Salem that you are trying
to post?

Larry Tate :)

the truth
11-05-2009, 03:56 PM
Yeah, I put four of them on here but they don't seem to show up and have about 21 on that ImageVenue gallery. Don't know who all can see the four here or if anyone's had any trouble looking at the gallery though.

http://img188.imagevenue.com/gallery/loc865/12_1646_Samantha_Statue.php

Let me know.

catlover79
11-05-2009, 04:02 PM
I'm so glad they remembered to put the heart necklace on the Samantha statue. It wouldn't be the same without it!! :nod:

the truth
11-05-2009, 04:18 PM
Yeah, but you gotta love this one the most. :D

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photopost/uploads/9980/samantha05.jpg

(Lord, I hope this worked since I uploaded it to here at SitcomsOnline. :crazy:

EDIT: UNREAL! Any reason why we can't see pictures on here? Here's a link to the pic ON THIS VERY SITE....

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photopost/data/893/medium/samantha05.jpg

Heidi Dawn
11-05-2009, 04:39 PM
That statue has an amazing likeness to Elizabeth, especially in the facial features.

catlover79
11-05-2009, 04:42 PM
That statue has an amazing likeness to Elizabeth, especially in the facial features.
I agree - it's astounding!!