View Full Version : Reinstate Michael Vick: Yes or No?


Janice
07-20-2009, 07:24 PM
What say you?

bandito
07-20-2009, 07:31 PM
I say NO The guys a criminal in my eyes.

Mr. Television
07-20-2009, 07:41 PM
No. He should at least get a year's suspension from the NFL and I wouldn't be upset if he was banned for life. I get tired of hearing the talking heads say that he made a mistake and paid his debt to society. Killing dogs is not a mistake. :rolleyes: And just because he paid his debt doesn't mean he should be put back into the NFL. I'd have a hard time rooting for him remembering what he did. If he ever became a member of the Cowboys, I'd boo him every time he got the ball. I do think he'll be reinstated though.

GARFIELDKOOL
07-20-2009, 07:52 PM
You know something, I always been a Michael Vick fan. He was a great athlethe. This dog fighting thing, yeah, it was a crime, but it was also non-football related. He did his time, paid the price, and I think he deserves another chance.

catlover79
07-20-2009, 08:01 PM
No. He should at least get a year's suspension from the NFL and I wouldn't be upset if he was banned for life. I get tired of hearing the talking heads say that he made a mistake and paid his debt to society. Killing dogs is not a mistake. :rolleyes: And just because he paid his debt doesn't mean he should be put back into the NFL. I'd have a hard time rooting for him remembering what he did. If he ever became a member of the Cowboys, I'd boo him every time he got the ball. I do think he'll be reinstated though.
AMEN!! :clap :clap :clap I vote for a lifetime ban, too. If that doesn't happen, I hope the Browns aren't stupid enough to sign him. Sadly, I think they are.

bandito
07-20-2009, 08:15 PM
You know something, I always been a Michael Vick fan. He was a great athlethe. This dog fighting thing, yeah, it was a crime, but it was also non-football related. He did his time, paid the price, and I think he deserves another chance.His crime was non-related to football, but the NFL holds a high standard, and Vick per say represents the NFL. He has alot of kids that lookup to him... what kind of example does he set? I hope Goodell makes an example out of Vick and doesn't reinstate him.

MickeyMac
07-20-2009, 08:46 PM
:mad: I say f**K no. What he did is sick and no way should he be allowed to come back and make millions. I have no sympathy for this man.

Waterston_Fan
07-20-2009, 09:06 PM
No, he shouldn't be reinstated. But we all know he will.

That being said, the NFL does have a low standard as to punishing players though.

The one guy who killed a woman while driving drunk during the Super Bowl weekend in '99, Ray Lewis, Marshall guy from the Broncos, and few other players I can't think of.

I've said this in a political thread and I'll say it here..

We seem to be a forgiving or a give the guy a second chance society.

Mr. Television
07-20-2009, 09:11 PM
No, he shouldn't be reinstated. But we all know he will.

That being said, the NFL does have a low standard as to punishing players though.

The one guy who killed a woman while driving drunk during the Super Bowl weekend in '99, Ray Lewis, Marshall guy from the Broncos, and few other players I can't think of.

I've said this in a political thread and I'll say it here..

We seem to be a forgiving or a give the guy a second chance society.
We seem to give celebrities more second chances though. If nobody thought Vick couldn't help an NFL team, nobody would care. I used to be a big Vick fan but no more. I don't even think he's that great of a QB. He's a good athlete but he continues to flop as QB. I think he's going to be more problem then he's worth to any team that gives him a chance.

Brian Damage
07-20-2009, 10:47 PM
While what he did is reprehensible, I do think he paid the price for his crime. The thing that makes this country so great is allowing people a second chance in life.

catlover79
07-20-2009, 11:26 PM
We seem to give celebrities more second chances though. If nobody thought Vick couldn't help an NFL team, nobody would care. I used to be a big Vick fan but no more. I don't even think he's that great of a QB. He's a good athlete but he continues to flop as QB. I think he's going to be more problem then he's worth to any team that gives him a chance.
Just think of all the bad PR any team that signs him will get. :eek:

LuLu Rogers
07-21-2009, 03:14 AM
HELL NO

Schmoopie
07-21-2009, 03:32 AM
Absolutely not. He should have thought about the consequences before he did something so stupid and horrible. A lot of those dogs had to be put to sleep because they were so messed up afterwards. If it had been a person that he killed, I wonder if he'd even be considered for reinstatement. I just hope the Seahawks new coach isn't stupid enough to take him, if in fact he is reinstated. The Cowboys or ANY team for that matter.
Monika, that's exactly right that any team he goes to will get bad PR and they'll be constantly criticized for why they chose to take him.

Didn't Pete Rose get himself banned from baseball for some tax thing or something like that? That's government related, but this is murder; what Michael Vick has done. Far FAR worse in my book.

Andrea

Wreckless
07-21-2009, 01:55 PM
Yes. Everybody makes mistakes, and I can name a bunch of NFL issues that teams or players, where they have done something wrong and haven't gotten suspended or anything of that matter. I think he deserves a second chance.

Plus, the dog fighting is a big culture event in the South. It's not like Michael Vick is the only guy in America that was doing this. It's only because his life is put on a pedistool because he is an athlete & a celebrity. Their is also pit fighting, or **** fighting over in PR. Yes he should be reinstated. Goodell is an idiot though, so who knows if he'll get reinstated ever again.

Wreckless
07-21-2009, 01:56 PM
While what he did is reprehensible, I do think he paid the price for his crime. The thing that makes this country so great is allowing people a second chance in life.

I agree.

Wreckless
07-21-2009, 02:00 PM
You know something, I always been a Michael Vick fan. He was a great athlethe. This dog fighting thing, yeah, it was a crime, but it was also non-football related. He did his time, paid the price, and I think he deserves another chance.

I agree man. Vick was a great athlete and not only does he deserve a second chance, he would work in the wild cat offense, either backing up Tom Brady in New England, maybe becoming a backup in Miami or working the system somewhere else, if he gets reinstated this year or next. I never liked the guy personally. But that doesn't take away from his talent & being a great athlete too.

catlover79
07-21-2009, 04:01 PM
Absolutely not. He should have thought about the consequences before he did something so stupid and horrible. A lot of those dogs had to be put to sleep because they were so messed up afterwards. If it had been a person that he killed, I wonder if he'd even be considered for reinstatement. I just hope the Seahawks new coach isn't stupid enough to take him, if in fact he is reinstated. The Cowboys or ANY team for that matter.
Monika, that's exactly right that any team he goes to will get bad PR and they'll be constantly criticized for why they chose to take him.

Didn't Pete Rose get himself banned from baseball for some tax thing or something like that? That's government related, but this is murder; what Michael Vick has done. Far FAR worse in my book.

Andrea
Yes, Pete Rose was banned from MLB for betting on it while he was still playing. But I wouldn't be surprised if Selig or some idiot sooner or later reinstates him. ohno:

Mr. Television
07-21-2009, 05:09 PM
I was listening to Mike & Mike in the morning and they were talking about this. They said if they had done the same thing that Michael Vick had done that ESPN would not hire them back. It would be a public relations nightmare. They said they have a moral clause in their contract and they would have broken it.

bandito
07-21-2009, 05:14 PM
If he is reinstated, I hope that the desperate team that signs him gets protested to death by the animal activists.

70s show watcher
07-21-2009, 06:54 PM
no way

70s show watcher
07-21-2009, 06:56 PM
If he is reinstated, I hope that the desperate team that signs him gets protested to death by the animal activists.oh dont worry they will

catlover79
07-21-2009, 07:06 PM
If he is reinstated, I hope that the desperate team that signs him gets protested to death by the animal activists.
They will - and rightfully so!!

Wreckless
07-21-2009, 09:22 PM
He is better then 99% of backups in the NFL..name me 5 backup QBs...screw it, he is better then most of the starting QBs in the NFL currently...

I would take him over Tarvaris Jackson, Sage Rosenfels, Jason Campbell, Rex Grossman, any Detroit Lions QB (including Stafford, he hasn't played one quarter, let alone one game or season), whoever the Bucs have, the starter for the 49ers, the Seahawks starting QB, the Browns starting QB, the Texans QB and better then plenty more- a few starters and backups.

btw, you know half of the QBs in the NFL are a joke when I can't even name the starting QBs for some teams, not to mention some of those teams in that mix suck anyway.....

vick would be on a contending, # 1 team, if New England or Miami signed him....

TVFactFan
07-21-2009, 10:48 PM
I say he should get a second chance

Darren J.
07-22-2009, 06:18 PM
No. If that was any one of us, we would never be able to find a job.

catlover79
07-22-2009, 11:49 PM
No. If that was any one of us, we would never be able to find a job.
Darren, you hit the nail right on the head. :nod:

Mr. Television
07-23-2009, 08:40 PM
It's not official but this story has been going around the internet for the last hour.

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/07/23/michael-vick-roger-goodell-reportedly-meet-to-discuss-nfl-reins/

Source: Michael Vick Can Sign but Faces 4-Game Suspension
Posted Jul 23, 2009 7:55PM By Nancy Gay (RSS feed)

Suspended quarterback Michael Vick reportedly met Wednesday with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell to discuss what is anticipated to be a conditional reinstatement into the league, possibly as soon as next week.

One NFL source told FanHouse on Thursday that if Vick satisfies the commissioner's requirements for reinstatement, it's expected that he will receive at least a four-game suspension to start the 2009 season, but that Goodell may allow Vick to join a team in training camp.

The catch: no NFL team has expressed any interest in signing the newly-freed Vick to a contract.

The NFL would not confirm the meeting. "We have been consistent in saying that we are not going to comment on the details of the review process while it is taking place." NFL spokesperson Greg Aiello told FanHouse.

Goodell said earlier this week he wanted to resolve the issue of Vick's possible reinstatement to the NFL, "as soon as possible," but the commissioner did not say when that might occur. Goodell also has said he needs to see signs of genuine remorse from the quarterback, as well as evidence that Vick has made changes in his lifestyle before he permits the former Atlanta Falcons star to re-enter the NFL.

SI.com, citing sources, said Vick and Goodell were spotted leaving the security offices of Buckley Peterson Global Inc. in Allendale, N.J. about 4 p.m. ET Wednesday. Vick was described as being accompanied with a "huge" entourage, and driving away from the building in a Cadillac Escalade. Goodell was seen leaving about 10 minutes later. Both were described as looking somber.

catlover79
07-23-2009, 08:50 PM
Booooooooooooooo...:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Marvo301
07-23-2009, 09:02 PM
The good news in this story is that not a single NFL team has expressed interest in Mr. Vick's services.

catlover79
07-23-2009, 09:05 PM
The good news in this story is that not a single NFL team has expressed interest in Mr. Vick's services.
YET.

Mr. Television
07-23-2009, 09:15 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-vick-stripclub&prov=ap&type=lgns

Vick lawyer denies strip club reports
By LARRY O'DELL and HANK KURZ JR., Associated Press Writers
5 hours, 25 minutes ago

AP)—Michael Vick’s lawyer vehemently denied reports Thursday that the suspended NFL star spent his first night of freedom from federal custody at a Virginia Beach strip club.

“It is absolutely, categorically false,” Lawrence Woodward told The Associated Press.

An Internet blog reported that Vick was seen at the strip club Atlantis on Monday night, hours after he completed his 23-month sentence for operating a dogfighting ring. Woodward said Vick was not in Virginia Beach that night and has not been to any strip club.

“He has been spending time with his family and friends and working with his advisers on legal matters and trying to get back to playing football,” Woodward said.

Vick also denied the reports in an interview with the Daily Press of Newport News.

“That’s crazy,” he told his hometown newspaper. “That is the last place on my mind. I was out of town. I guess it’s just someone trying to be hurtful.”

Vick, 29, is expected to meet soon with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell in hopes of getting his suspension lifted. Goodell has said Vick needs to show genuine remorse and that he has changed.

The commissioner said Tuesday that he hoped to make a decision “in the near future.” NFL training camps open for veterans next week.

The blog thebiglead.com, which some newspapers referenced on their Web sites, quoted a DJ who refused to be identified as saying Vick was at Atlantis with NBA free agent Allen Iverson.

Leon Rose, Iverson’s agent, said the basketball star hasn’t seen Vick since the former Atlanta Falcons quarterback’s release from prison.

The voice mailbox at Atlantis was full and unable to accept messages Thursday.

Vick served most of his sentence at the federal penitentiary in Leavenworth, Kan., before being transferred to home confinement in late May. The electronic monitor he wore on his ankle during two months of home confinement in Hampton was removed Monday morning, freeing Vick from federal custody.

catlover79
07-23-2009, 09:21 PM
^ Can this guy get any sleazier?? :eek: :rolleyes:

Mr. Television
07-23-2009, 09:32 PM
^ Can this guy get any sleazier?? :eek: :rolleyes:
Well they do deny it but it's been reported on the news all day. I know when I first heard it, I wasn't surprised. :lol:

catlover79
07-23-2009, 09:45 PM
Well they do deny it but it's been reported on the news all day. I know when I first heard it, I wasn't surprised. :lol:
Me neither. :lol:

Scoobiedoo30
07-23-2009, 10:30 PM
no

Schmoopie
07-24-2009, 01:18 AM
Well of course he's going to deny it. After what he did to those poor dogs, I wouldn't put it past him to do something like this. What a jackass!