View Full Version : John And Joyce Brief Falling-Out
USATVFAN 07-15-2009, 09:18 PM Did anyone know that John Ritter and Joyce Dewitt had a Brief falling-Out toward the end of the Series? Appearently Joyce was mad at John for lying to her and not telling her about the Spin-off when she asked him if him and the Producers were up to something early in the 8th season. She couldn't believe that after the friendship they shared for 7 years, that he would be keeping the secret about the spinoff from her. Eventually they made up and were the best of friends.
Mr. Television 07-15-2009, 09:24 PM The Producers told John to keep it quiet from her and he did. She did have a right to be mad . I don't understand why they needed the secrecy. It all came out very early in the 8th season. I heard about the spin-off in October 1983 I believe.
Scoobiedoo30 07-15-2009, 09:45 PM Why did The Producers want to keep The Spin-off series a sectre from Joyce Dewitt
Mr. Television 07-15-2009, 09:48 PM Why did The Producers want to keep The Spin-off series a sectre from Joyce Dewitt
I have no idea Aaron. Maybe they thought if it all came out it could cause the show not to happen. It doesn't make much sense. It came out soon after anyway.
Smartboy 07-15-2009, 09:49 PM Was the fact that Joyce was mad because she wanted to be in and and they studio did not want her to be?
Scoobiedoo30 07-15-2009, 09:55 PM I am just glad that Joyce and John Made up
Mr. Television 07-15-2009, 09:55 PM Was the fact that Joyce was mad because she wanted to be in and and they studio did not want her to be?
I think she was upset because she was a major star on Three's Company and nobody told her the show would be ending. TC had finished the previous season ranked #6 in the country so it probably took her by surprise.
Scoobiedoo30 07-15-2009, 10:05 PM well The Producers asked John not to say anything to Joyce so Joyce should be mad at The Producers.
Mr. Television 07-15-2009, 10:08 PM well The Producers asked John not to say anything to Joyce so Joyce should be mad at The Producers.
I think she was mad at them too.
USATVFAN 07-15-2009, 10:11 PM The Producers were trying to get John to do the spinoff since the begining of show Third Season, at the time Norman, Audra And Suzanne were still on the show. Who's know what made John give in.
Joyce was just as much Three's Company as John was and was just as Important as John, She was there from the begining. Therefore she deserved to know what was going on. She was mad at the Produucers also, she was a Leading character just like John, so therefore deserve to know everything that was going on.
I thonk Joyce was mad becuse John was one of here closet and dearest friend and that fact that he told here that nothing was going on when there was something on, made her bitter toward him. and also because she did not know it was ending.
USATVFAN 07-15-2009, 10:20 PM Also, John told Richard Kline what the producers were doing before Joyce even knew abut the spinoff, that probably made her a little upset
Mr. Television 07-15-2009, 10:21 PM The Producers were trying to get John to do the spinoff since the begining of show Third Season, at the time Norman, Audra And Suzanne were still on the show. Who's know what made John give in.
Joyce was just as much Three's Company as John was and was just as Important as John, She was there from the begining. Therefore she deserved to know what was going on. She was mad at the Produucers also, she was a Leading character just like John, so therefore deserve to know everything that was going on.
I thonk Joyce was mad becuse John was one of here closet and searest frinfds and that fact that he told here that nothing was going on when there was something on, made her bitter toward him. and also because she did not know it was ending.
I don't think there was a spin-off talk for John in the 3rd season. Three's Company was at it's height then and John was Three's Company. I remember reading at the time John saying that they were running out of ideas by the time the 8th season started so they needed to try something different. Ratings for TC really dropped during the 8th season too. The whole ABC Tuesday lineup was collapsing at that time because of the A-Team on NBC. That's what killed Three's A Crowd more than anything. TAC still finished in the mid 30's though. Today that would be considered a hit.
Mr. Television 07-15-2009, 10:23 PM Also, John told Richard Kline what the producers wew doing before Joyce even knew abut the spinoff, that probably made her a little upset
I think they wanted Richard to be on the show too. He turned it down because he had a pilot he was making for CBS which ended up not being picked up. He did agree to make guest appearances though although he just made that one before it was canceled.
Smartboy 07-15-2009, 10:24 PM During the third season, the character of Jack was at a completely different place in life. A spin-off like that one that eventually developed would have been very hard to swallow at that stage in the game! He never even had enough money for his share of the rent on the apartment that he had much less what he would need to take a place with a significant other! Dose anyone know what the third-season spin-off was going to be about?
Mr. Television 07-15-2009, 10:27 PM During the third season, the character of Jack was at a completely different place in life. A spin-off like that one that eventually developed would have been very hard to swallow at that stage in the game! He never even had enough money for his share of the rent on the apartment that he had much less what he would need to take a place with a significant other! Dose anyone know what the third-season spin-off was going to be about?
I don't think there was ever going to be a spin-off with Jack during the 3rd season. He was Three's Company. If they would have spun him off, they would have had to fire the rest of the cast and end the show. The spin-off they wanted was for the Ropers and they got it. Unfortunately it was not successful.
Mr. Television 07-15-2009, 10:33 PM Come to think of it, I think you are right about that spin-off. I think I remember hearing John talking about it. They came to him very early on about one day spinning off his character. It wasn't supposed to happen in the 3rd season though. They had talked about doing it when the series was near it's end. So you were right. :)
USATVFAN 07-15-2009, 10:34 PM I don't think there was ever going to be a spin-off with Jack during the 3rd season. He was Three's Company. If they would have spun him off, they would have had to fire the rest of the cast and end the show. The spin-off they wanted was for the Ropers and they got it. Unfortunately it was not successful.
From what I read in chapter 8 of the Tree's Company book it sounded like, that at the end of every season, before Suzanne even left, the Producers would come up and ask him about a spinoff but he would turn them down.
USATVFAN 07-15-2009, 10:39 PM Okay, I thought they meant like Cancle the show after the third season and do it. their still would have been hurt fellings. they were at the hieght of the show popularity in the 3rd season, and to Suddently drop Dewitt, Somers, Lindley and Fell to do a spinoff Fully around Jack in the middle of Three's Company Popularity would have been horrible. I am glad they didn't do it that way. It would have Ruined the other catmates Careers and would have wasted ton of money for nothing.
Mr. Television 07-15-2009, 10:40 PM From what I read in chapter 8 of the Tree's Company book it sounded like, that at the end of every season, before Suzanne even left, the Producers would come up and ask him about a spinoff but he would turn them down.
That doesn't really make much sense. The show was near #1 in the ratings and John was the main reason for it. They would have jeopardized the entire show if he was spun-off. Three's Company wasn't even in syndication yet so all the money that they would make from reruns wasn't even there yet. If that's true then the producers were idiots. lol
Mr. Television 07-15-2009, 10:43 PM Okay, I thought they meant like Cancle the show after the third season and do it. their still would have been hurt fellings. they wew at the hieght of the show popularity in the 3rd season, and to Suddently drop Dewitt, Somers, Lindley and Fell to do a spinoff Fully around Jack in the middle of Three's Company Popularity would have been horrible. I am glad they didn't do it taht way.
No there was no way they would cancel the show. TC was battling Laverne and Shirley as the #1 show in the nation during the third season. I think they came to him every year and asked him about the spin-off for after the show ended and John didn't know if he wanted to. After the 7th season he finally agreed to it.
USATVFAN 07-15-2009, 10:50 PM No there was no way they would cancel the show. TC was battling Laverne and Shirley as the #1 show in the nation during the third season. I think they came to him every year and asked him about the spin-off for after the show ended and John didn't know if he wanted to. After the 7th season he finally agreed to it.
You are right. It Probably would have been one of the worst moves ever in tV History
*Pleasant Tomorrow* 07-15-2009, 11:51 PM Yeah, I knew about it. I don't blame Joyce for being upset, but I also feel bad for John because I doubt he intended to hurt anyone's feelings. I still think the producers were the root of all evil for most of the problems that went on behind the scenes. It's a shame the way they handled things.
Scoobiedoo30 07-16-2009, 12:55 AM Well They did make up
*Pleasant Tomorrow* 07-16-2009, 01:41 AM Well They did make up
Yup, they were pretty good friends for many years before John passed.
Scoobiedoo30 07-16-2009, 01:45 PM Yes I remember the day John Passed Steve Ewards from Good Day Live Talked to Suzanne
Duster76 07-16-2009, 07:02 PM As the years went by the show really became the John Ritter show. The vast majority of episodes were about Jack or Jack reaction to something one of the other characters was involved in. I think Joyce was angry at what sshe perceived of as a double cross by Ritter. To a certain degree the three (Suzzane, Joyce and John) started as equals by the end John had taken over the show leaving the other cast members in the dust.
douglasjc 08-14-2009, 06:00 PM Yeah, I knew about it. I don't blame Joyce for being upset, but I also feel bad for John because I doubt he intended to hurt anyone's feelings. I still think the producers were the root of all evil for most of the problems that went on behind the scenes. It's a shame the way they handled things.
I agree with you the producers set up the situation that was bound to explode. They are clearly at fault
glickmam 09-27-2009, 12:41 AM No there was no way they would cancel the show. TC was battling Laverne and Shirley as the #1 show in the nation during the third season. I think they came to him every year and asked him about the spin-off for after the show ended and John didn't know if he wanted to. After the 7th season he finally agreed to it.
I sincerely doubt that Three's Company would want to fight Laverne & Shirley for the #1 position, especially since both shows aired on ABC.
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