View Full Version : ThomasE it was four reasons why this show was not a Success


TVFactFan
05-12-2009, 04:47 PM
1. Mother was Unpleasant

2. Mother constantly put her Son and his friends down

3.Mother was not easy on the Eyes

4.Clifton was a STIFF


That sums it up-lol

Brieannas21
05-17-2009, 09:00 PM
1. Mother was Unpleasant

2. Mother constantly put her Son and his friends down

3.Mother was not easy on the Eyes

4.Clifton was a STIFF


That sums it up-lol

I know that I am not Thomas But... The mother not easy on the eyes???? What does that have to do with anything? She was a sweet lady in my opinion.

TVFactFan
05-17-2009, 09:04 PM
I know that I am not Thomas But... The mother not easy on the eyes???? What does that have to do with anything? She was a sweet lady in my opinion.


Who wants to be around or look at a person who is unattractive and unpleasant who is NOT FUNNY?-lol

Brieannas21
05-17-2009, 09:09 PM
Who wants to be around or look at a person who is unattractive and unpleasant who is NOT FUNNY?-lol

Hell, you watched Weezie walk around in a night gown and in a bathing suit. Also Mama had her funny moments. Just say you did not like the show and keep it movin'

TVFactFan
05-17-2009, 09:16 PM
Hell, you watched Weezie walk around in a night gown and in a bathing suit. Also Mama had her funny moments. Just say you did not like the show and keep it movin'

weezy was pleasant, not unattractive, and funny
Florida was pleasant, unattractive, and very funny
Ms Thomas was pleasant, not unattractive, and funny sometimes


Clifton's mother was unattractive, unpleasant, had a horrible voice, and not NEVER FUNNY.

Brieannas21
05-17-2009, 09:33 PM
weezy was pleasant, not unattractive, and funny
Florida was pleasant, unattractive, and very funny
Ms Thomas was pleasant, not unattractive, and funny sometimes


Clifton's mother was unattractive, unpleasant, had a horrible voice, and not NEVER FUNNY.

Isabel was not always pleasant on The Jeffersons. I am not going to continue with the whole attractive thing because I do not watch a sitcom based on a person’s looks. If I were to do that, I would have missed out on a lot of great TV shows.

Mama had her funny moments, I thought that she was a sweet woman. She had every right to put down Clifton’s friends because they weren't worth much and they were in her house. I don't think that Clifton was stiff I believe that he stayed himself throughout the whole show, he was more mature than the rest of the men on the show.

TVFactFan
05-17-2009, 09:36 PM
Isabel was not always pleasant on The Jeffersons. I am not going to continue with the whole attractive thing because I do not watch a sitcom based on a person’s looks. If I were to do that, I would have missed out on a lot of great TV shows.

Mama had her funny moments, I thought that she was a sweet woman. She had every right to put down Clifton’s friends because they weren't worth much and they were in her house. I don't think that Clifton was stiff I believe that he stayed himself throughout the whole show, he was more mature than the rest of the men on the show.



I seen a ep when she was telling Clifton that he was a FAILURE!!!!!!!! It came on last Sunday

Brieannas21
05-17-2009, 09:46 PM
I seen a ep when she was telling Clifton that he was a FAILURE!!!!!!!! It came on last Sunday


Ok and? In the end she apologized.

TVFactFan
05-17-2009, 09:50 PM
Ok and? In the end she apologized.

Florida never put J.J down
Weezy never put Lionel down
Mabel never put Roger down

LOL


I didn't see the end but it was still wrong

Brieannas21
05-17-2009, 10:04 PM
Florida never put J.J down
Weezy never put Lionel down
Mabel never put Roger down

LOL


I didn't see the end but it was still wrong

Weezie slapped Lionel

Mabel??? Now you're on her team? A couple of years ago you were agaisnt her calling her unattractive and FAT

And you are right, Flo never put JJ down.

But like I said in my last post. Mama did APOLOGIZE in the end.

TVFactFan
05-17-2009, 10:42 PM
Weezie slapped Lionel

Mabel??? Now you're on her team? A couple of years ago you were agaisnt her calling her unattractive and FAT

And you are right, Flo never put JJ down.

But like I said in my last post. Mama did APOLOGIZE in the end.


Weezy slapped Lionel because he was putting his FATHER down

Brieannas21
05-17-2009, 11:40 PM
I thought the episode that you were talking about was when Clifton's cousin comes to visit. But when I looked at it she didn't call him a failure. So what was the episode about where she calls him a failure?

TVFactFan
05-18-2009, 12:04 AM
I thought the episode that you were talking about was when Clifton's cousin comes to visit. But when I looked at it she didn't call him a failure. So what was the episode about where she calls him a failure?


When she was asking why he didn't turn out like some guy who had a nice car and nice job. If my mom said that me I would have quickly ran to disrespectful avenue-lol

Brieannas21
05-18-2009, 12:09 AM
When she was asking why he didn't turn out like some guy who had a nice car and nice job. If my mom said that me I would have quickly ran to disrespectful avenue-lol


Well I just looked at the episode where Clifton said that he didn't know if he believed in God and she didn't call him a failure in that episode.

Do you remember what the plot of the episode was about?

TVFactFan
05-18-2009, 12:51 AM
Well I just looked at the episode where Clifton said that he didn't know if he believed in God and she didn't call him a failure in that episode.

Do you remember what the plot of the episode was about?

I think the Guy was Tracy's boyfriend

Brieannas21
05-18-2009, 02:19 PM
I think the Guy was Tracy's boyfriend

In one episode she was asking him why he wasn't trying to settle down, get married, and that he should go to so that he could get a better job. Also she was talking about either her nephew who had a big car and lots of money or it was her son-in-law. But she never called him a failure. In the one episode where her nephew came to town she apologized to him for trying to compare him with his cousin.

TVFactFan
05-18-2009, 04:00 PM
In one episode she was asking him why he wasn't trying to settle down, get married, and that he should go to so that he could get a better job. Also she was talking about either her nephew who had a big car and lots of money or it was her son-in-law. But she never called him a failure. In the one episode where her nephew came to town she apologized to him for trying to compare him with his cousin.


She still wasn't in no position to tell Clifton what he didn't have and should have-lol

I did like his line when he said-"I have a cheap car and save lots of money"

Brieannas21
05-18-2009, 04:54 PM
She still wasn't in no position to tell Clifton what he didn't have and should have-lol

I did like his line when he said-"I have a cheap car and save lots of money"

Yes she was, she was his mother, She wasn't being mean about it.

TVFactFan
05-18-2009, 05:12 PM
Yes she was, she was his mother, She wasn't being mean about it.


I remember reading in a October 23, 1975 issue of Jet that the producer felt that Momma was too mean and put her son down all the time and for the new season which was season 2, they were going to make her warm and very loving-lol It was TOO LATE

Brieannas21
05-18-2009, 07:49 PM
I remember reading in a October 23, 1975 issue of Jet that the producer felt that Momma was too mean and put her son down all the time and for the new season which was season 2, they were going to make her warm and very loving-lol It was TOO LATE


Too mean? She was not mean. She was no meaner than Florida or Mrs. Thomas.

The episode that you are referring to, she wasn't being mean. She was just commenting on the things that her nephew had. She was just being a mother.

Scan that story and post it, I want to read it LOL

TVFactFan
05-18-2009, 07:54 PM
Too mean? She was not mean. She was no meaner than Florida or Mrs. Thomas.

The episode that you are referring to, she wasn't being mean. She was just commenting on the things that her nephew had. She was just being a mother.

Scan that story and post it, I want to read it LOL


I threw it away I think but I also remembering the producer saying she was overbearing. I will see if I still have it

Brieannas21
05-18-2009, 08:35 PM
I threw it away I think but I also remembering the producer saying she was overbearing. I will see if I still have it


Please do, I want to read where it was said that Mama was mean LOL

ThomasE
10-18-2009, 10:11 PM
I threw it away I think but I also remembering the producer saying she was overbearing. I will see if I still have it


You threw it away? Tsk Tsk freaking Tsk! :rolleyes: I am late responding to this. Tell me when you are addressing me to answer a post through e-mail or private message. Mama was kinda mean to Earl in season one but she seemed nicer to him in season two. I still like the show.

catlover79
10-18-2009, 11:36 PM
Weezy slapped Lionel because he was putting his FATHER down
He DESERVED that slap, too! For that matter, Mother Jefferson almost walloped him!!

APPLEI
02-02-2010, 11:28 PM
I think That's My Mama would've been a hit show if it had been on CBS with Good Times,The Jefferson's,All in the Family,Rhoda,The Mary Tyler Moore Show,M*A*S*H,The Bob Newhart Show & The Carol Burnett Show

TVFactFan
02-02-2010, 11:33 PM
I think That's My Mama would've been a hit show if it had been on CBS with Good Times,The Jefferson's,All in the Family,Rhoda,The Mary Tyler Moore Show,M*A*S*H,The Bob Newhart Show & The Carol Burnett Show

It wasn't the NETWORK it was the CAST

ThomasE
02-02-2010, 11:37 PM
Well Solomon, if it was packaged with one of those Norman Lear shows, maybe it would have gotten better ratings.

TVFactFan
02-02-2010, 11:51 PM
Well Solomon, if it was packaged with one of those Norman Lear shows, maybe it would have gotten better ratings.

Theresa Meritt and Clifton Davis were horrible Front characters

catlover79
02-03-2010, 01:15 AM
Theresa Meritt and Clifton Davis were horrible Front characters
Sol, did you like Clifton Davis a lot better when he was on Amen? I know you actually met him once, randomly. Wasn't it in a bank and you got his autograph?

TVFactFan
02-03-2010, 09:07 PM
Sol, did you like Clifton Davis a lot better when he was on Amen? I know you actually met him once, randomly. Wasn't it in a bank and you got his autograph?


Yes a little better on Amen and we work in the same building now. I work on the 7th floor and he works on the 8th. I met him at the Hot dog Cart about 5 years ago-lol

catlover79
02-03-2010, 09:40 PM
Yes a little better on Amen and we work in the same building now. I work on the 7th floor and he works on the 8th. I met him at the Hot dog Cart about 5 years ago-lol
Awesome!! He also hosts a talk show on the Trinity Broadcasting Network now. :cool:

ThomasE
02-03-2010, 10:32 PM
Solomon, is there a TBN studio in your building. What does Clifton do or what business is on the floor that Clifton works in?

TVFactFan
02-03-2010, 10:46 PM
Solomon, is there a TBN studio in your building. What does Clifton do or what business is on the floor that Clifton works in?


Something having to do with Religion so that maybe the TBN thing.

catlover79
02-03-2010, 10:49 PM
Something having to do with Religion so that maybe the TBN thing.
It's like a "Christian Tonight Show" where Clifton interviews guests. I've seen a few episodes of it on YouTube - not bad! :cool:

Sonny Carson
04-07-2012, 06:12 PM
I actually liked the first season of That's My Mama. There were some funny moments like The Honesty Day episode.

Tracy: Why did you really want to marry me Leonard?
Leonard: Your Body!
Tracy: What do you mean my body?
Leonard: Yes Body, B-O-D-Y! :lol:
Tracy: What about my mind?
Leonard:That was fine but that wasn't your mind popping out of your bikini! :lol:

Mama: You got a lot of nerve talking about my daughter that way.
Leonard: What I mean is that I had to be hooked by her looks!
Mama: You got alot of nerve callin my daughter a HOOKER! :lol:

The original Leonard who said those quotes was solid too, I don't know why they replaced him. The second season of That's My Mama was plain bad and featured a number of cringe worthy moments. Mostly by the "second" Leonard who got a bigger role. The best thing about both seasons of the show was Ted Lange as Junior. He cracked me up when he asked Clifton "Was That your Mama I saw floatin down the street, or a gigantic doily" :lol:.

Sonny Carson
04-07-2012, 06:14 PM
Oh and them replacing Tracy was a dumb move too!

TVFactFan
04-07-2012, 08:56 PM
The only highlight of this show was JUNIOR

McGillicuddy
04-20-2012, 07:14 AM
I can't believe how long this thread is and no one's recognizing the stereo-typing here.

TVFactFan
04-20-2012, 02:00 PM
I can't believe how long this thread is and no one's recognizing the stereo-typing here.


Stereo-typing?

megamanj2004
05-27-2012, 04:04 AM
IMO, this show failed b/c:

1). The theme song change in S2

2). The production team also changed.

3). Switching Tracys

4). Earl became dumber than before. In S1 he wasn't as buffoon-ish as he was in S2.

TVFactFan
05-27-2012, 11:33 AM
IMO, this show failed b/c:

1). The theme song change in S2

2). The production team also changed.

3). Switching Tracys

4). Earl became dumber than before. In S1 he wasn't as buffoon-ish as he was in S2.


I guess they were trying to make the show more family like and make the mother more sweet which was the tone of the season 2 theme song

McGillicuddy
05-27-2012, 12:12 PM
Stereo-typing?

Well, why is Mrs. Curtis (Mama) being compared to Weezy Jefferson, Florida Evans and "Mama" Mable Thomas? Are they all supposed to be similar because they happen to be African-American, rather buxom or heavy-set, and are mothers. There IS no comparision with the character of Louise Jefferson and the character of "Mama" Eloise Curtis. The storyline with The Jeffersons was not about Weezy being Lionel's mother. Where as, That's My Mama, is about Mrs. Curtis being a mother figure not just to her own children, but to all of their friends.

I don't know, but I would think "Mama" Thelma Harper on Mama's Family would be more of a comparision to Mrs. Curtis than those other 3.

Maybe "stereo-typing" isn't intentional here, but I don't understand why these four characters/actresses are being stereo-typically catagorized together.

And what does Theresa Merritt's physical appearance have to do with anything? She wasn't supposed to be sexy! I just started watching TMM, and am enjoying it. Personally I think Ms. Merritt's character is hilarious and fun!

TVFactFan
05-27-2012, 12:41 PM
Well, why is Mrs. Curtis (Mama) being compared to Weezy Jefferson, Florida Evans and "Mama" Mable Thomas? Are they all supposed to be similar because they happen to be African-American, rather buxom or heavy-set, and are mothers. There IS no comparision with the character of Louise Jefferson and the character of "Mama" Eloise Curtis. The storyline with The Jeffersons was not about Weezy being Lionel's mother. Where as, That's My Mama, is about Mrs. Curtis being a mother figure not just to her own children, but to all of their friends.

I don't know, but I would think "Mama" Thelma Harper on Mama's Family would be more of a comparision to Mrs. Curtis than those other 3.

Maybe "stereo-typing" isn't intentional here, but I don't understand why these four characters/actresses are being stereo-typically catagorized together.

And what does Theresa Merritt's physical appearance have to do with anything? She wasn't supposed to be sexy! I just started watching TMM, and am enjoying it. Personally I think Ms. Merritt's character is hilarious and fun!


Of course she is going to be compared to Florida, Weezy, and Mrs. Thomas because

1. They were black shows
2. They all aired during the same time


Now I guess a better comparison would be Mrs. Thomas since she was a single mother whose son had 2 friends come to the house all the time and hung out at the barbershop like the guys on What's Happening hung out at the soda shop. Plus Both woman had two kids which was a son and daughter

ThomasE
07-22-2012, 12:58 AM
I thought the show was fine the way it was. I liked the season two theme song. I just wished Lynne wasn't replaced with Joan. She seemd to be a bit older than the Clifton character and the other Tracy was supposed to be younger.

TVFactFan
07-22-2012, 01:06 AM
I thought the show was fine the way it was. I liked the season two theme song. I just wished Lynne wasn't replaced with Joan. She seemd to be a bit older than the Clifton character and the other Tracy was supposed to be younger.


This show's problem was the main character were dull. That wasn't the case on the other black shows

Sanford and Son....Fred and Lamont

The Jeffersons......George and Weezy

Good Times........James and Florida


That's My Mama.........."Clifton and his Mother:confused:


:lol:

Brieannas21
07-22-2012, 01:12 AM
I thought the show was fine the way it was. I liked the season two theme song. I just wished Lynne wasn't replaced with Joan. She seemd to be a bit older than the Clifton character and the other Tracy was supposed to be younger.

I'm with you Thomas, I liked the show, wish that it would have lasted longer than 2 seasons.

TVFactFan
07-22-2012, 01:22 AM
I'm with you Thomas, I liked the show, wish that it would have lasted longer than 2 seasons.



What did you like about it? Clifton Davis is such a bore. His dryness was overshadowed by Sherman Hemsley on Amen so it wasn't that noticeable. But on That;s my Mama he was boring and so was his mother

Only the mailman and Junior kept the show somewhat watchable

Brieannas21
07-22-2012, 01:34 AM
What did you like about it? Clifton Davis is such a bore. His dryness was overshadowed by Sherman Hemsley on Amen so it wasn't that noticeable. But on That;s my Mama he was boring and so was his mother

Only the mailman and Junior kept the show somewhat watchable

I liked the show period, I liked the interaction between Clifton and his mom, Clifton and Earl. Junior really didn't do much for me, maybe it's because he didn't have that many lines and he was always in and out. The one person I could have done without was Leonard. I loved the first Leonard they had, he fit in more I think.

TVFactFan
07-22-2012, 01:35 AM
I liked the show period, I liked the interaction between Clifton and his mom, Clifton and Earl. Junior really didn't do much for me, maybe it's because he didn't have that many lines and he was always in and out. The one person I could have done without was Leonard. I loved the first Leonard they had, he fit in more I think.


Do you have the DVD's? I can send them to you:lol:

Brieannas21
07-22-2012, 01:41 AM
Do you have the DVD's? I can send them to you:lol:

Of course I have them on DVD. You could always sell them.

TVFactFan
07-22-2012, 01:57 AM
Of course I have them on DVD. You could always sell them.


Please, no one is trying to buy TMM unless it's a ABC episode with commercials.

Plus the DVD was edited. I was reading a Jet magazine and there is a scene from a episode in the Jet that I never saw on the DVD. I still saw the same lady but not the way she was shown in the jet

ThomasE
07-22-2012, 02:02 AM
I liked the show period, I liked the interaction between Clifton and his mom, Clifton and Earl. Junior really didn't do much for me, maybe it's because he didn't have that many lines and he was always in and out. The one person I could have done without was Leonard. I loved the first Leonard they had, he fit in more I think.


ITA , Junior was that tag character that most tv shows have that viewers talk about. He was like extra icing. Leonard was okay with me. Geeky he played well.

DavidDMI
12-07-2013, 06:29 AM
There are some funny moments on this show,but I don't think this show was very good.It was mediocre.Great cast,but the writing wasn't consistently good.The other day,I was watching one of the episodes in Season Two.The characters were on a road trip to a wedding,they got lost and had to stay in a run-down hotel for the night.On paper,this *sounds* like it would be a great episode but the episode was silly and unfunny.

ThomasE
12-07-2013, 09:35 AM
I saw that episode when they were driving to Philadelphia. I've had it since I was 12 years. My local affiliate WFTS 28 in Tampa was airing it. I thought it was a good episode. The show, I guess was mediocre but I still liked it. I thought that season two did lose a few points. Some season one elements were missing. It's almost like TV ONE's "Love that girl". Since Tatyana Ali left, her presence to me is missed. I like the character "Imunique" but she is better as a side character and Tatyana's character "Tiana" needs to be there.

Sonny Carson
12-07-2013, 02:58 PM
I saw that episode when they were driving to Philadelphia. I've had it since I was 12 years. My local affiliate WFTS 28 in Tampa was airing it. I thought it was a good episode. The show, I guess was mediocre but I still liked it. I thought that season two did lose a few points. Some season one elements were missing. It's almost like TV ONE's "Love that girl". Since Tatyana Ali left, her presence to me is missed. I like the character "Imunique" but she is better as a side character and Tatyana's character "Tiana" needs to be there.
I actually thought that the episode where they were on the road trip was the best episode of the second season. Of course it's not saying much because Season Two is not good!

TVFactFan
12-07-2013, 03:05 PM
There are some funny moments on this show,but I don't think this show was very good.It was mediocre.Great cast,but the writing wasn't consistently good.The other day,I was watching one of the episodes in Season Two.The characters were on a road trip to a wedding,they got lost and had to stay in a run-down hotel for the night.On paper,this *sounds* like it would be a great episode but the episode was silly and unfunny.


That was actually one of the better episodes since they were not in that house like most of the eps

TVFactFan
12-07-2013, 03:06 PM
I actually thought that the episode where they were on the road trip was the best episode of the second season. Of course it's not saying much because Season Two is not good!


I agree with you Sonny

hatwink
03-07-2014, 06:52 PM
What did you like about it? Clifton Davis is such a bore. His dryness was overshadowed by Sherman Hemsley on Amen so it wasn't that noticeable. But on That;s my Mama he was boring and so was his mother

Only the mailman and Junior kept the show somewhat watchable

Clifton Davis was a babe magnet, all the stuff on him being dry maybe true, but the fact that women liked him surpassed that.

TVFactFan
03-07-2014, 08:55 PM
Clifton Davis was a babe magnet, all the stuff on him being dry maybe true, but the fact that women liked him surpassed that.


Well why was the show cancelled in mid season 2 while Ugly JJ's show was on for 6 years?

Bonniegirl
10-21-2014, 12:59 AM
Clifton Davis was a babe magnet, all the stuff on him being dry maybe true, but the fact that women liked him surpassed that.


Clifton Davis was nice looking! I never saw this show in reruns, only first run in the early 70's! But I do remember Clifton Davis being handsome. ;)

TVFactFan
10-21-2014, 01:02 AM
Clifton Davis was nice looking! I never saw this show in reruns, only first run in the early 70's! But I do remember Clifton Davis being handsome. ;)


Handsome and Boring LOL