mlingerfelt
05-10-2009, 07:57 PM
Name your favorite short lived show that you like to see released from the 70,s I would not mind seeing Cop and the Kid released. I would like to hear your thoughts.
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View Full Version : Short Lived Shows 70s mlingerfelt 05-10-2009, 07:57 PM Name your favorite short lived show that you like to see released from the 70,s I would not mind seeing Cop and the Kid released. I would like to hear your thoughts. dakert 05-10-2009, 10:50 PM Paul Sorvino starred--Alan Alda project in 1974 or 75. I remember making sure I was home at 7 or 8 O'Clock from the bars on friday nights. It just came to me "We'll Get by" I would pay full price for the DVD. Robert 13 05-11-2009, 10:13 AM "A Touch Of Grace" with Shirley Booth. Also co-stars Marian Mercer of "9 to 5" fame. Heidi Dawn 05-11-2009, 02:12 PM I'd like to see 'The Ropers', 'Phyllis', and 'Angie'. steevo 05-11-2009, 09:36 PM When Things Were Rotten - Short-lived Robin Hood spoof. Mel Brooks produced it. mlingerfelt 05-13-2009, 05:36 PM here is a few more. Grady,Fish, James at 15, Joe and Sons, Serpico , and Movin On. McGillicuddy 05-13-2009, 06:48 PM Any spin-offs of popular shows Phyllis Fish The Ropers Brady Bunch Variety Hour The Betty White Show Nanny & The Professer Blansky's Beauties The Paul Lynde Show Temperatures Rising catlover79 05-13-2009, 07:44 PM AES Hudson Street - starring the one and only Gregory Sierra. :eyes: It would be great (yet HIGHLY unlikely) to see it get an official DVD release, since it only ran 5 episodes in 1978. But it would be so great to have extras - including some input from its star. :eyes: Robert 13 05-14-2009, 04:48 PM There has to be some way that the studios can make these rare shows available to us fans. What a waste to hold them forever in a vault without ever using them again. Surely, there is something they can do and turn a profit from it. I think they are underestimating their value. TVFactFan 05-14-2009, 06:12 PM I'd like to see 'The Ropers', 'Phyllis', and 'Angie'. I have Angie and Phyllis. I still would like to see season 1 of Angie TVFactFan 05-14-2009, 06:13 PM AES Hudson Street - starring the one and only Gregory Sierra. :eyes: It would be great (yet HIGHLY unlikely) to see it get an official DVD release, since it only ran 5 episodes in 1978. But it would be so great to have extras - including some input from its star. :eyes: That show is in the same category of Checking In, the FORGET ABOUT IT category-lol Both shows will never be released since they had so little eps. I gave up on both Mr. Television 05-14-2009, 06:15 PM I'd like to see Hot L Baltimore again. I haven't seen it since I was 9. lol TVFactFan 05-14-2009, 06:18 PM I'd like to see Hot L Baltimore again. I haven't seen it since I was 9. lol I gave up on looking for that show too-lol Especially since it aired and was cancelled before I was born-lol catlover79 05-14-2009, 06:18 PM That show is in the same category of Checking In, the FORGET ABOUT IT category-lol Both shows will never be released since they had so little eps. I gave up on both Yeah, I know. That's why I said HIGHLY unlikely. :lol: I think it is still possible for Checking In to get a release on a Jeffersons DVD set (as an extra). It was only 4 episodes - so maybe it can have its own disc on a Jeffersons set. We can dream, can't we?? :D McGillicuddy 05-14-2009, 06:52 PM You never know what the future holds. Smore Entertainmant released Good Morning World (1967-68) and Lotsa Luck (1973-74) both 1 season shows. I wish this company would put out more rare shows like this. mlingerfelt 05-14-2009, 11:43 PM anybody remember California Fever that came on in 79. I remember in 7th grade in some magazine we voted on a new show from each network that we liked. and guess what the show. but CBS would never bring it back. I understand its competition was Happy Days. catlover79 05-14-2009, 11:47 PM anybody remember California Fever that came on in 79. I remember in 7th grade in some magazine we voted on a new show from each network that we liked. and guess what the show. but CBS would never bring it back. I understand its competition was Happy Days. Wasn't Lorenzo Lamas in that?? mlingerfelt 05-14-2009, 11:47 PM You never know what the future holds. Smore Entertainmant released Good Morning World (1967-68) and Lotsa Luck (1973-74) both 1 season shows. I wish this company would put out more rare shows like this. also they released Quark.which was 78 sitcom. also Swiss Family Robinson coming out 6-30-09. it was a 75-76 season and lasted only 1. mlingerfelt 05-14-2009, 11:48 PM Wasn't Lorenzo Lamas in that?? yes and so was Jimmy McNichol. catlover79 05-14-2009, 11:52 PM yes and so was Jimmy McNichol. Thanks - I think I may have seen a clip of it on YouTube a while back. mlingerfelt 05-14-2009, 11:53 PM Thanks - I think I may have seen a clip of it on YouTube a while back. do you have the link to it? I like to see that myself. Mr. Television 05-15-2009, 12:12 AM anybody remember California Fever that came on in 79. I remember in 7th grade in some magazine we voted on a new show from each network that we liked. and guess what the show. but CBS would never bring it back. I understand its competition was Happy Days. Yea I remember that show but like most of the kids of that era, I watched Happy Days. :lol: catlover79 05-15-2009, 12:15 AM do you have the link to it? I like to see that myself. I checked, but it must have been removed. :( TVFactFan 05-15-2009, 01:09 AM anybody remember California Fever that came on in 79. I remember in 7th grade in some magazine we voted on a new show from each network that we liked. and guess what the show. but CBS would never bring it back. I understand its competition was Happy Days. Just can't understand why CBS would put a new show up against a show that was very popular mlingerfelt 05-15-2009, 03:38 PM I also remember Movin On was opposite of Happy Days also. TVFactFan 05-15-2009, 03:58 PM I also remember Movin On was opposite of Happy Days also. Yeah and Happy Days killed that show too. lol The only reason that show lasted longer was because it was opposite another show during it';s first season mlingerfelt 05-16-2009, 09:36 AM remember Richard Pryor Show and Man From Atlantis also ran against Happy Days. I watched both of those shows. TVFactFan 05-16-2009, 08:53 PM remember Richard Pryor Show and Man From Atlantis also ran against Happy Days. I watched both of those shows. Happy Days killed a lot of shows. Happy Days was also the reason that CBS pulled Good Times from the 8pm slot on Tuesday Nights after the 74-75 season. dakert 05-16-2009, 11:33 PM I never got to see Quinn Martin's "Tales Of The Unexpected" because it was opposite Charlie's Angles :eek: 70s show watcher 05-17-2009, 04:20 AM I have Angie and Phyllis. I still would like to see season 1 of Angiei liked season 1 because tammy lauren was a cast member and ive always liked her mlingerfelt 05-17-2009, 07:25 AM what about Out of the Blue. it was killed by 60 Minutes. dakert 05-17-2009, 12:52 PM what about Out of the Blue. it was killed by 60 Minutes. I think Out Of The Blue only ran 9 episodes because it sucked. I remember watching some episodes :rolleyes: so for fun I went to IMDB and it has a 2.3/10 and some pretty harsh reviews. mlingerfelt 05-17-2009, 01:20 PM wasn,t Out of the Blue a spin-off from Happy Days. catlover79 05-17-2009, 03:11 PM wasn,t Out of the Blue a spin-off from Happy Days. Yes, it was. TVFactFan 05-17-2009, 03:37 PM Yes, it was. No Monkia it wasn't a spinoff, the character of Out of the blue just made a appearance on Happy Days which was a crossover. Out of the Blue had preeired before he appeared on Happy Days TVFactFan 05-17-2009, 03:41 PM what about Out of the Blue. it was killed by 60 Minutes. Yeah because ABC felt it was a show for kids and decided it would be better for the 7pm slot. McGillicuddy 05-17-2009, 05:02 PM what about Out of the Blue. it was killed by 60 Minutes. OUT OF THE BLUE! Wow! I haven't seen or heard anybody talk of that show ever! I thought it was a spin-off of Mork & Mindy. Dixie Carter was on that show. TVFactFan 05-17-2009, 05:49 PM OUT OF THE BLUE! Wow! I haven't seen or heard anybody talk of that show ever! I thought it was a spin-off of Mork & Mindy. Dixie Carter was on that show. Actually it was the reverse of what happened on Happy Days, Mork guest starred on Out of the Blue in the first episode which made it a crossover. So Out of the Blue is not a spinoff of Happy Days or Mork and Mindy catlover79 05-17-2009, 05:56 PM Actually it was the reverse of what happened on Happy Days, Mork guest starred on Out of the Blue in the first episode which made it a crossover. So Out of the Blue is not a spinoff of Happy Days or Mork and Mindy This is getting pretty confusing. :lol: Retro4Life 05-17-2009, 06:20 PM what about Out of the Blue. it was killed by 60 Minutes. Yes, but honestly, "Out of the Blue" wasn't all that good. I watched all of the eps back then, and even then...it always struck me as just a watered down "Mork and Mindy". Retro4Life 05-17-2009, 06:22 PM Does anyone remember a show that I think aired in 1979, for maybe only five episodes, called "Highcliffe Manor"? It was a Gothic romance spoof, and I swear it was either done by Susan Harris or someone trying to emulate her style. I liked the show a lot; it starred Stephen McHattie, Shelley Fabres, Audrey Landers, and others I can't remember right now. :) And it ended on a cliffhanger!!! Retro4Life 05-17-2009, 06:27 PM One of the shows I wish I think deserved better than it got during the 70's was the science fiction adventure "Fantastic Journey". It's plot really seems like the template for shows like "Sliders" and the "Stargate" series. A group of diverse characters get stuck in the Bermuda Triangle and travel to different dimensions and time periods, trying all the while to get home. I know Ike Eisenmann was in it, along with Jared Martin from "Dallas" as "Varian" the future guy with a cool tuning fork weapon (yes, I said 'tuning fork'), and Roddy McDowell as a scientist from the 60's. I think there was a lady who could turn into a cat in it, too. :) catlover79 05-17-2009, 08:04 PM Does anyone remember a show that I think aired in 1979, for maybe only five episodes, called "Highcliffe Manor"? It was a Gothic romance spoof, and I swear it was either done by Susan Harris or someone trying to emulate her style. I liked the show a lot; it starred Stephen McHattie, Shelley Fabres, Audrey Landers, and others I can't remember right now. :) And it ended on a cliffhanger!!! I don't remember that one, but I do remember Marblehead Manor (but that aired in the 80s). TVFactFan 05-17-2009, 08:08 PM Does anyone remember a show that I think aired in 1979, for maybe only five episodes, called "Highcliffe Manor"? It was a Gothic romance spoof, and I swear it was either done by Susan Harris or someone trying to emulate her style. I liked the show a lot; it starred Stephen McHattie, Shelley Fabres, Audrey Landers, and others I can't remember right now. :) And it ended on a cliffhanger!!! Show was no match for Laverne and Shirley on Tuesday Nights-lol catlover79 05-17-2009, 08:30 PM Didn't Supertrain air in the 70s? mlingerfelt 05-17-2009, 10:09 PM Didn't Supertrain air in the 70s? yes mlingerfelt 05-17-2009, 10:11 PM did anybody remember James at 15. that was a very good show. bencasey 05-17-2009, 10:20 PM You never know what the future holds. Smore Entertainmant released Good Morning World (1967-68) and Lotsa Luck (1973-74) both 1 season shows. I wish this company would put out more rare shows like this. Yeah, and took a bath on both of them. Shows like that don't sell enough to warrant a release. Maybe with burn on demand we may be able to see shows that only appeal to a limited audience become available. bencasey 05-17-2009, 10:22 PM anybody remember California Fever that came on in 79. I remember in 7th grade in some magazine we voted on a new show from each network that we liked. and guess what the show. but CBS would never bring it back. I understand its competition was Happy Days. I got a complete set of them that I bought on 16mm years ago. bencasey 05-17-2009, 10:24 PM Does anyone remember a show that I think aired in 1979, for maybe only five episodes, called "Highcliffe Manor"? It was a Gothic romance spoof, and I swear it was either done by Susan Harris or someone trying to emulate her style. I liked the show a lot; it starred Stephen McHattie, Shelley Fabres, Audrey Landers, and others I can't remember right now. :) And it ended on a cliffhanger!!! I just got a couple of them in on Beta. Pretty bad show. bencasey 05-17-2009, 10:26 PM did anybody remember James at 15. that was a very good show. James at 15 was a great show. One of the best shows of the decade. TVFactFan 05-17-2009, 10:46 PM I got a complete set of them that I bought on 16mm years ago. Good for you mlingerfelt 05-18-2009, 06:12 PM James at 15 was a great show. One of the best shows of the decade. James at 15 what was its competition, why that could not survive? I remember it coming on Thursday. TVFactFan 05-18-2009, 06:53 PM James at 15 what was its competition, why that could not survive? I remember it coming on Thursday. Hawaii Five on CBS and Barney Miller on ABC Retro4Life 05-18-2009, 07:52 PM Show was no match for Laverne and Shirley on Tuesday Nights-lol Yeah, I am pretty sure that "Highcliffe Manor" aired on NBC, during the spring of 1979. TVFactFan 05-18-2009, 07:58 PM Yeah, I am pretty sure that "Highcliffe Manor" aired on NBC, during the spring of 1979. It did from April to May of 1979 against Laverne and Shirley at 8:30pm on Tuesday nights McGillicuddy 05-18-2009, 08:57 PM James at 15 what was its competition, why that could not survive? I remember it coming on Thursday. I think James at 15/16 could be a sucessful dvd release. Shout Factory???? bencasey 05-19-2009, 02:17 AM I think James at 15/16 could be a sucessful dvd release. Shout Factory???? They've already discussed it on their forum. Too much music in the show makes it too costly to do. But at least you should have them from when they ran on A&E in the 80s. Torgo 05-19-2009, 09:51 AM I haven't given up hope on some of these shows from the 70's getting released on DVD since Buck Henry's 'Quark' which ran 9 episodes in '77 got released. Apple's Way BJ and the Bear Gemini Man Future Cop Ghost Story Hawkins Holmes and Yo-Yo Logan's Run Korg: 70,000 B.C. The Next Step Beyond I would like to see the final season of 'The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries' get released. It's only a few episodes, so it would have been nice if they released it with Season 2. But, maybe with new Hardy Men movie coming out they'll release it to cash in. After all, the Nancy Drew movie was the reason Season 2 got released. catlover79 05-19-2009, 12:40 PM ^ Hey, if Pink Lady & Jeff can get a DVD release (with EXTRAS, no less!), there's hope for all the other unreleased shows out there!! :eek: :lol: Torgo 05-19-2009, 02:31 PM ^ Hey, if Pink Lady & Jeff can get a DVD release (with EXTRAS, no less!), there's hope for all the other unreleased shows out there!! :eek: :lol: :lol: There is hope! catlover79 05-19-2009, 04:08 PM :lol: There is hope! See? :lol: TVFactFan 05-19-2009, 07:13 PM I haven't given up hope on some of these shows from the 70's getting released on DVD since Buck Henry's 'Quark' which ran 9 episodes in '77 got released. Apple's Way BJ and the Bear Gemini Man Future Cop Ghost Story Hawkins Holmes and Yo-Yo Logan's Run Korg: 70,000 B.C. The Next Step Beyond I would like to see the final season of 'The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries' get released. It's only a few episodes, so it would have been nice if they released it with Season 2. But, maybe with new Hardy Men movie coming out they'll release it to cash in. After all, the Nancy Drew movie was the reason Season 2 got released. I have the 1st ABC ep of Holmes and Yoko JamesG 05-20-2009, 03:36 AM It probably won't happen but I would like to see ABC's short-lived Makin' It (1979) released. About a young man from New Jersey inspired by the Saturday Night Fever disco boom and frequents the clubs during the night. It only had 8 episodes I believe. catlover79 05-20-2009, 08:53 AM It probably won't happen but I would like to see ABC's short-lived Makin' It (1979) released. About a young man from New Jersey inspired by the Saturday Night Fever disco boom and frequents the clubs during the night. It only had 8 episodes I believe. James Naughton, who later co-starred in My Sister Sam, was in that show. Ellen Travolta played his mom. Yes, it was influenced by SNF, as no doubt a lot of other shows were at the time. Torgo 05-20-2009, 09:16 AM James Naughton, who later co-starred in My Sister Sam, was in that show. Ellen Travolta played his mom. Yes, it was influenced by SNF, as no doubt a lot of other shows were at the time. You have your Naughtons confused. It was David. ;) I remember watching Makin' It when it originally aired because it had the Dr Pepper guy in it. :lol: Robert 13 05-20-2009, 09:35 AM I'd love to see it too. I would buy it if they released it. :) catlover79 05-20-2009, 11:27 AM You have your Naughtons confused. It was David. ;) I remember watching Makin' It when it originally aired because it had the Dr Pepper guy in it. :lol: Did I say James Naughton? D'OH!! Yes, I meant David. Thanks for the correction. David also had a top 5 hit with "Makin' It", which was released sometime in 1979. :D TVFactFan 05-20-2009, 12:23 PM Surprisingly Main It didn't have much compeition on Friday Nights and was still cancelled. It was up against a New Comedy called Waverly Wonders and Wonder woman-lol catlover79 05-20-2009, 01:09 PM Surprisingly Main It didn't have much compeition on Friday Nights and was still cancelled. It was up against a New Comedy called Waverly Wonders and Wonder woman-lol I think it had a lot to do with the disco craze dying out by then, but that's just my theory. :lol: TVFactFan 05-20-2009, 01:40 PM I think it had a lot to do with the disco craze dying out by then, but that's just my theory. :lol: I read that since they couldn't get John Travolta to star on the show, they askedhis mother instead-"ellen travolta" LOL Torgo 05-20-2009, 01:58 PM Did I say James Naughton? D'OH!! Yes, I meant David. Thanks for the correction. David also had a top 5 hit with "Makin' It", which was released sometime in 1979. :D Right family, wrong brother. You can hear Makin' It in the movie Meatballs. Torgo 05-20-2009, 02:09 PM I think it had a lot to do with the disco craze dying out by then, but that's just my theory. :lol: With all this talk of disco music, I'm actually having disco flashbacks! :eek: catlover79 05-20-2009, 03:24 PM With all this talk of disco music, I'm actually having disco flashbacks! :eek: Me, too! I'm actually listening to the Bee Gees now. :rofl: catlover79 05-20-2009, 03:24 PM I read that since they couldn't get John Travolta to star on the show, they askedhis mother instead-"ellen travolta" LOL I read that, too. :lol: Actually, Ellen is his sister, not his mother. McGillicuddy 05-20-2009, 06:15 PM Isn't Scott Baio, Ellen's son. That means John Travolta is Scott Baio's uncle! I never knew that! I may be mistaken. Torgo 05-20-2009, 07:06 PM Isn't Scott Baio, Ellen's son. That means John Travolta is Scott Baio's uncle! I never knew that! I may be mistaken. Ellen Travolta is not Scott Baio's mom, but she has played his mom on TV- both Happy Days, and Charles in Charge. TVFactFan 05-20-2009, 07:20 PM I read that, too. :lol: Actually, Ellen is his sister, not his mother. OH YEAH-lol McGillicuddy 05-20-2009, 07:24 PM Also, Joanie Loves Chachi. Because he played his mother so much, I guess thats why I thought it was his real mother. My mistake. mlingerfelt 05-20-2009, 08:09 PM the show never made it but the theme song was a top 5 hit back in 79. catlover79 05-20-2009, 08:14 PM Also, Joanie Loves Chachi. Because he played his mother so much, I guess thats why I thought it was his real mother. My mistake. I read a quote in People magazine where years ago, Scott Baio and Ellen Travolta were in an independent film together. She wasn't playing his mom this time, and went to the actress that was and said, "Hey, you're not his mom, I am!!" :rofl: comedyfreak 05-22-2009, 08:40 AM I'd like to see: 1. Carter Country 2. The Ropers 3. Fish 4. Hot L Baltimore 5. The Sanford Arms 6. Makin' It mlingerfelt 05-22-2009, 09:28 AM Sanford Arms and Fish would be great. catlover79 05-22-2009, 11:04 AM Sanford Arms and Fish would be great. I've yet to see Fish. If I ever get a chance, I will. :cool: TVFactFan 05-22-2009, 04:22 PM Sanford Arms and the Ropers are not as RARE as they were back in 2002. Especially since I have both shows in my bedroom-lol Carter Country is not really rare or Fish. The only Obscure TV show is Hot L Baltimore Retro4Life 05-22-2009, 05:16 PM "Lotsa Luck" was actually pretty funny; it was obviously influened by "All in the Family" but I enjoyed it on its own merits. ;) mlingerfelt 05-23-2009, 01:33 AM Grady and Cop and the Kid. our prayers and thoughts go out for the passing of Carole Cole who played Grady,s daughter. TVFactFan 05-23-2009, 01:39 AM Grady and Cop and the Kid. our prayers and thoughts go out for the passing of Carole Cole who played Grady,s daughter. I don't think either one of these shows would come out since they only lasted a half of season. Both Grady and Cop and The Kid started on the same day and was cancelled the same day. comedyfreak 05-23-2009, 05:56 AM Sanford Arms and the Ropers are not as RARE as they were back in 2002. Especially since I have both shows in my bedroom-lol Carter Country is not really rare or Fish. The only Obscure TV show is Hot L Baltimore But the question was: Name your favorite short lived show that you like to see released from the 70,s. And I named the ones I'd like to see that have not been offially released on dvd yet. I haven't seen Carter Country since it was originally run on prime time, same with Hot L Baltimore and Fish. TVFactFan 05-23-2009, 02:05 PM But the question was: Name your favorite short lived show that you like to see released from the 70,s. And I named the ones I'd like to see that have not been offially released on dvd yet. I haven't seen Carter Country since it was originally run on prime time, same with Hot L Baltimore and Fish. The point I was making is you can go to the trading board and ask for Grady, Ropers, and Sanford Arms or Carter Country. The only show no one has is Hot L Baltimore. So if you are hoping o see those shows one day they can easily be acquired on the Trading board. Zoneboy 05-23-2009, 02:26 PM My World and Welcome to it When Things Were Rotten (Previously mentioned) McGillicuddy 05-23-2009, 04:53 PM How many of these shows are spin-offs of main stream, popular shows? If I had one wish, I would wish whoever has the rights would realize how much people would love to have them, since they're rarely seen. The Ropers, Fish, Grady, Sanford Arms, 3's a Croud, Joanie Loves Chachi....We know the characters from one show, so why wouldn't we buy the spin-off show? TVFactFan 05-24-2009, 12:23 AM How many of these shows are spin-offs of main stream, popular shows? If I had one wish, I would wish whoever has the rights would realize how much people would love to have them, since they're rarely seen. The Ropers, Fish, Grady, Sanford Arms, 3's a Croud, Joanie Loves Chachi....We know the characters from one show, so why wouldn't we buy the spin-off show? I would say FISH is the only TV show that is not from a Popular Show. Barney Miller was never that popular catlover79 05-24-2009, 12:28 AM I would say FISH is the only TV show that is not from a Popular Show. Barney Miller was never that popular Barney Miller lasted 8 seasons - I wouldn't exactly call it UNpopular. TVFactFan 05-24-2009, 12:36 AM Barney Miller lasted 8 seasons - I wouldn't exactly call it UNpopular. Not on the level of the other Parrent shows Sanford and Son Happy Days Three's Company It had a fanbase but not like the shows above catlover79 05-24-2009, 12:39 AM Sol, what exactly WERE the ratings for each season of Barney Miller? I think it was in the Top 25/30 almost every year it aired. Zoneboy 05-24-2009, 12:42 AM Not on the level of the other Parrent shows Sanford and Son Happy Days Three's Company It had a fanbase but not like the shows above As good as those shows are, They've been widely syndicated for years. I can recall all 3 airing locally for many years but the only time Barney Miller was shown was in 1982 and the channel that ran it didn't have it on long. TVFactFan 05-24-2009, 12:42 AM Sol, what exactly WERE the ratings for each season of Barney Miller? I think it was in the Top 25/30 almost every year it aired. I will post them on the BM board Mickeymouse07079 05-24-2009, 01:11 AM I loved from 1975 a show called Hot L Baltimore. catlover79 05-24-2009, 01:19 AM I will post them on the BM board Thanks! Nighthawk76 05-24-2009, 01:28 AM Sol, what exactly WERE the ratings for each season of Barney Miller? I think it was in the Top 25/30 almost every year it aired. Don't forget though that was a time before cable. There was really only the three major networks and PBS. There were far less shows on the air, so the networks expected them to pull in higher ratings then they would today. Once a show dropped out of the top 30 it was in dnager of being canceled. mlingerfelt 05-24-2009, 02:31 PM I always enjoyed Serpico. |