This has to be one of the most unwatchable cases in UM's run. just thinking about what happened to that poor woman angers me to my bone.

The Boat Hit and Run was the case where the three woman in Texas(?) where on a boat and their boat was hit by a speeding power boat that refused to stop.

The other two girls were fine, but one of them literrally had her face ripped off by the other boat's propeller.

I am absolutely shocked and surprised that the other boat has not yet been found!

1. Even in that part of the country, there couldn;t be that many boats of that type around that area. Given the size of the boat, i assume it had to be stationed and licensed in the area. I doubt it was hauled and even if it was,

2. The boat was damaged. Someone had to have noticed the damage. There can only be so many places that you could take the boat to get repaired at in that area. Even if you sold it under the table, that buyer would have noticed the damage and would have gone to get it repaired. If your

3. if the boat was detroyed by the owner, then someone's lost his boat rather suddenly or bought a new one fairly recently. It would also mean someone's stopped paying for either insurance or lease payments on the boat.

what i'm saying is that somewhere there is a paper trail and people who have seen the boat and the occupants and/or owners.

It;s not like some lout hit an old lady on I-95 with a light gray Toyota. This was a large and expensive boat that was damaged and had a man and woman as it;s occupants.

This case should be solved, and that poor lady shoudl have a lawsuit on those bastards. :mad:

I know. This is one of those cases that should have been solved in my opinion. I am always surprised that it hasn't been.

Also, maybe this is just the way they reenacted it, but I always think when the woman in the offending boat comes up it seems like she had been down on her knees doing something to, uhh, maybe make the guy lose his focus if you know what I mean.:crazy: If that is truly how it happened I guess that could explain things. OF COURSE that does not excuse it, but I never understood how this thing happened anyway.

I wouldn't be surprised if the perp took his boat out and sunk it to destroy all the evidence.

And geez, every boater knows not to be driving at wake speed in the dark. I wonder how drunk he was. His poor victim was nearly killed. Her injuries were so severe that her airway was blocked by torn tissue.

We had a boat back about the same time this happened. Unlike cars, boat loans were often done on ten year deals. Unless that guy was fairly well off, it's likely that he had a loan on his boat. And the boat was newer, right? Did he go on making payments on it after he wrecked it (and IMO sunk it)?

Plus, he probably rented a boat slip somewhere near where the accident happened. (I'm basing this assumption on my very fuzzy memory of them saying that it was a pretty big speed boat.) People who own expensive boats often rent boat slips to keep them stored. That way, when they want to go boating, they just drive to the lake and their boat is waiting, already moored at the dock. It's easier than keeping a truck and trailering a large boat every time you want to go out on the water.

I wonder if this guy had a slip rented and if anyone ever noticed that his boat wasn't there after this event. He could have gone on paying his slip rental fees to avoid suspicion, but other people whose boats were there could have noticed the empty slip, or people working at the docks could have noticed it.

And assuming that he didn't destroy the boat/evidence, and had it repaired, the damage would have to be repaired by a professional. So he either paid a boat mechanic a heck of a lot of money to fix it quietly in his home garage, or there are several people at a dealer/repair garage/marina who have seen this boat go through their system, complete with all the paperwork.

If it was professionally repaired, the service writer would have seen the boat, the mechanic would have worked on it, the fiberglass repair guy would have worked on it, and everyone all the way down to the garage porter would have seen the boat in the repair facility and stored on the lot. That's a bunch of witnesses.

Oh, and on top of that, boat repair places write your last name, on the front of your trailer so they can quickly identify it when it's stored out in the lot. So people walking the lot, even prospective buyers, garbage collecters, etc, could have seen the damaged boat with the perp's last name written on the trailer.

...Also, maybe this is just the way they reenacted it, but I always think when the woman in the offending boat comes up it seems like she had been down on her knees doing something to, uhh, maybe make the guy lose his focus if you know what I mean.:crazy: If that is truly how it happened I guess that could explain things. OF COURSE that does not excuse it, but I never understood how this thing happened anyway.

What?? Are you for real?? That was not funny.

I wasn't trying to be funny. :confused: On the reenactment after the boat crashes, the guy just stands there staring at them and then the woman pops up. That's what it made me think of. Perhaps it was tasteless but that's what it looks like. Why is this any more offensive than saying he was distracted or careless because he was drunk? This was based on the reenactment presented by UM. I stated in my post that I didn't know if that's how it really happened, but it might explain how something so senseless could happen. I'm not sure why you are all pissed about this. It's just speculation based on what we were shown. It happens all the time on this forum.

What?? Are you for real?? That was not funny.

I have to agree there, and I thought remarking that the Stephanie is beautiful before AND after was depraved. Yikes.

I don't see where the controversy is here. I don't see anything flippant, condescending, or an attempt to make light of the situation in atomicfizz's comment.

I think she brings up a valid point. People do all kinds of stupid crap on boats and in cars. My dad retired from driving a semi long distance. He's seen everything from people making cereal in a bowl with milk and eating it while driving to full blown sexual intercourse in the driver's seat on the expressway.

And as far as what they are doing in boats, my 21 year old son, who is a very religious virgin, competes in professional bass tournaments. He's really starting to rank up there, winning two division championships in 2006 and 2007, placed 13th in the nation in the NBAA in 2008, was Eagle Claw angler of the year in 2008 and a bunch of other stuff.

While he was out fishing a tourney with a fishing partner last summer, there was a pontoon boat full of drunken women who were flashing their breasts in broad daylight. Pretty soon, a boat with several men aboard noticed them and pulled up close by. The guys started flashing their goods to the girls. None of these people had anything to do with the bass fishing tournament, and this lake was small and surrounded by family homes.

I was sitting in my car in the parking lot and could hear the girls yelling, "Oh my god! I saw yer fricken wiener!" And all the other inappropriate stuff they were saying to each other.

Who knows how long this went on during the day. I witnessed it for an hour while waiting for the tournment participants to bring in their boats for the weigh in to see who won.

People are just trash and whores. Then when you put them drunk on the water at the controls of a powerful murder machine while they're drawers are dropped, who knows what kind of disaster they'll get themselves involved in.

Also, maybe this is just the way they reenacted it, but I always think when the woman in the offending boat comes up it seems like she had been down on her knees doing something to, uhh, maybe make the guy lose his focus if you know what I mean. If that is truly how it happened I guess that could explain things. OF COURSE that does not excuse it, but I never understood how this thing happened anyway.

You do bring up a point that the two people might have been having an affair which may have made contacting the authorities even more problematic for them.

And assuming that he didn't destroy the boat/evidence, and had it repaired, the damage would have to be repaired by a professional. So he either paid a boat mechanic a heck of a lot of money to fix it quietly in his home garage, or there are several people at a dealer/repair garage/marina who have seen this boat go through their system, complete with all the paperwork.

If it was professionally repaired, the service writer would have seen the boat, the mechanic would have worked on it, the fiberglass repair guy would have worked on it, and everyone all the way down to the garage porter would have seen the boat in the repair facility and stored on the lot. That's a bunch of witnesses.

That's exactly what i am saying! There has to be paper trail of receipts or documents somewhere in any scenario.

Heck, this guy had to be making some serious coin to have a boat like that. His co-workers,neighbors, family, and friends alone, must have wondered why "John Doe" didn';t have his boat anymore or why he sold it or is trading in for a new one.

If the boat was brand new, it would be even more suspicious, why the boat was gone after just one trip.

Thank you TracyLynn.

People do stupid things sometimes. I think what happened to the girl in this case was absolutely horrible. I was just speculating based on what it looked like in the UM segment. People do crazy, dangerous things all the time, and I am willing to guess that usually nothing terrible comes about because of it. It could be one of those things that seems like fun and games until someone gets hurt.

I will never understand why the guy didn't do anything after this horrible incident. I am guessing it was because he was doing something wrong, whether it was speeding, being careless, drunk, or something else, and he was scared, making him act like a total d-bag and just drive away. I was just trying to present another theory. Thank you mastermind for acknowledging that. I would have hoped that by this time his conscience would have gotten to him, but I guess not. The whole thing was a tragedy. I'm just glad the victim made it through.

I do remember this story and I really felt bad for that woman. She must have had some really good surgeons because her face looked good. But she still should have had justice.

You do bring up a point that the two people might have been having an affair which may have made contacting the authorities even more problematic for them.



That's exactly what i am saying! There has to be paper trail of receipts or documents somewhere in any scenario.

Heck, this guy had to be making some serious coin to have a boat like that. His co-workers,neighbors, family, and friends alone, must have wondered why "John Doe" didn';t have his boat anymore or why he sold it or is trading in for a new one.

If the boat was brand new, it would be even more suspicious, why the boat was gone after just one trip.

I agree the possibility of two people having an affair is a good theory and point. It would sort of explain why the offending boat occupants didn't want to take responsibility.

This has to be one of the most unwatchable cases in UM's run.

You can say that again. This is the one UM segment that I absolutely cannot watch. I've actually been thinking about it every time I hear about the woman who was attacked by the chimp and had her face & hands torn off. It's unbelievable the kind of trauma that a person can go through and still survive.

Plus, he probably rented a boat slip somewhere near where the accident happened. (I'm basing this assumption on my very fuzzy memory of them saying that it was a pretty big speed boat.) People who own expensive boats often rent boat slips to keep them stored. That way, when they want to go boating, they just drive to the lake and their boat is waiting, already moored at the dock. It's easier than keeping a truck and trailering a large boat every time you want to go out on the water.


I could have sworn they mentioned the boat being put on a trailer and being driven away after the incident.

ETA: I just checked the website, indeed, the boat was put on a trailer and driven away. So, not paper trail with a slip.

I could have sworn they mentioned the boat being put on a trailer and being driven away after the incident.

ETA: I just checked the website, indeed, the boat was put on a trailer and driven away. So, not paper trail with a slip.

Well, dangit. That's one theory that's shot to crap and a lot less people who we could hope for as witnesses.

Another thought on the driver of this boat.

Think of Oba Chandler and the rapes and murders he committed on his cheap little boat. Just imagine if he had a big expensive new speed boat.

He would drive it as fast as he wanted to, when he wanted to, without regard for others. And he'd be the type who'd get a sexual thrill and a power trip from being at the helm while receiving sex from someone.

I'm not saying the boat driver in this case is Oba Chandler or is as capable of repeat murders as Oba, but there are ALL kinds out there...

ETA: I just checked the website, indeed, the boat was put on a trailer and driven away. So, not paper trail with a slip.

But that also means that someone, ended their vacation plans early.

They checked out of their hotel early. They came back from vacation early

Don;t trailers have to be certified in someway and licensed. (I don;'t know, I'
m a city boy, never owned a boat :p )

Again, how many people in the US could have that model of boat and been in that area, and lost and had that boat damaged. I can;t imagine its that large a number.


Still th boat was damaged. It had to be repaired, sold or destroyed somehow.

But that also means that someone, ended their vacation plans early.

They checked out of their hotel early. They came back from vacation early

Don;t trailers have to be certified in someway and licensed. (I don;'t know, I'
m a city boy, never owned a boat :p )

Again, how many people in the US could have that model of boat and been in that area, and lost and had that boat damaged. I can;t imagine its that large a number.


Still th boat was damaged. It had to be repaired, sold or destroyed somehow.

Yes, at least in my state, trailers need license plates, but they aren't linked to certain boats.

They weren't necessarily staying in a hotel, they could have been daytripping or sleeping on the boat. For example, a Donzi brand of that size could probably sleep 4 or 5.

I'd guess that the driver of the boat had extensive boating experience if they managed to get a 25-30 foot boat on a trailer and depart in 5 minutes AND managed not to lose the boat in transit, since they didn't tie the boat down. (Although, it would have been easy to pull over a few miles down the road and put the hook through the loop on the bow of the boat.)

The damage is a good point though. I suspect that the owner either waited to have the boat fixed or took the boat far away to have it fixed.

I always thought it was interesting that someone called the police claiming that they knew this couple in the other boat and were trying to convince them to turn themselves in. Apparently nothing more ever came from that. That REALLY bothers me because it shows that there is at least one person aside from the couple who knows the truth but isn't coming forward. I can only assume that the tipster was a friend or family member. I can't imagine how they can live with that knowledge all these years and remain silent. Obviously, these people still haven't revealed themselves. Why doesn't the tipster just man up and do that right thing since these people obviously can't?

I always thought it was interesting that someone called the police claiming that they knew this couple in the other boat and were trying to convince them to turn themselves in. Apparently nothing more ever came from that. That REALLY bothers me because it shows that there is at least one person aside from the couple who knows the truth but isn't coming forward. I can only assume that the tipster was a friend or family member. I can't imagine how they can live with that knowledge all these years and remain silent. Obviously, these people still haven't revealed themselves. Why doesn't the tipster just man up and do that right thing since these people obviously can't?

True, but consider that the suspect might be pretty wealthy and connected in society. That type of person could put a lot of pressure on the tipster. Not that that's an excuse. he might have plied the tipster with money.

You also have to consider that the tipster might have been threatend or has been murdered. :eek:

I always thought it was interesting that someone called the police claiming that they knew this couple in the other boat and were trying to convince them to turn themselves in. Apparently nothing more ever came from that. That REALLY bothers me because it shows that there is at least one person aside from the couple who knows the truth but isn't coming forward. I can only assume that the tipster was a friend or family member. I can't imagine how they can live with that knowledge all these years and remain silent. Obviously, these people still haven't revealed themselves. Why doesn't the tipster just man up and do that right thing since these people obviously can't?

Oh wow! I didn't know that there was a tipster who said they knew the perps involved. Did he/she seem reliable?

Dang, if it was me, I would have blabbed everything I knew and then begged the po po to put me in the witless protection program. :)

For real, though, I can't stand to see such a crime go unpunished. IMO, that makes the person with knowledge of the crime almost as culpable as the perp.

i do have this case and the victim's name is Stephanie Booker.

case bares alot of resemblance to the Jay Durham case when you think about it.

not sure if this was planned or not. on one hand, the driver acts as if he was the only one in the water and may not have known or seen the other boat (not that that would excuse his actions). But then they take off in a hurry, so i don't know.

yeah, the driver ranks pretty high on my list of perps I would like to see get the book thrown at them. I mean, after the victims went through that, they pleaded for the people in the other boat to help them, and the people in the other boat just stared and took off. makes your blood boil.

Yeah, the whole thing is infuriating. They didn't even stop at a payphone (they still had those back then) to make an anonymous 911 call to send an ambulance. There's a pretty much 100% chance they wouldn't have been caught if they did that in an out of the way pay phone and disguised their voices.

And the excessive speeding after dark ticks me off too. Wiseguy, you know Cass lake? My son was prefishing it for a tournament in 2006. I know it's known as a party lake, but my son was out there on his bass boat with all his specialized equipment prefishing it for an upcoming NBAA tournament.

He and his fishing partner had had their cars ticketed for staying in the lot past closing at 10pm, packing up their gear and tying down the boat. So to avoid yet another ticket, at 9pm, in the summer, when it was still bright daylight, my kid sped his bass boat, only slightly, to get back to the dock so he could get his boat trailered and and get the heck out of there before the guy with the tickets came by in the parking lot.

Well, he was pulled over by the water police at 9:04 pm for making a wake after 9:00pm. (since he fishes professionally, he reads up on all the rules of each lake he fishes) The lake rules weren't posted anywhere at the lake entrance. We later found the lake rules for Cass Lake after digging around on the internet for over an hour. And he was only making a wake within sight of the launch with no other boats around in the daytime when visibility was perfect and it was safe.

The ticket was $500 and/or 90 days in jail!

I spent $700 on a lawyer to keep my 6' tall 130lb 18 year old white kid from being somebody's bitch in the county jail just because the DNR failed to post their rules at the launch site. (This kid doesn't drink, smoke, swear, nothing. And when he's on the water, he's always bringing back other people's litter to put in the trash to keep the lakes clean.) And this is the kid they decide to make an example out of. I was livid.

Anyway, knowing boating as we do, there is just no excuse for the perps in this case to be boating at a high speed after dark. And they just had a speed boat. They weren't equipped with special safety headlights or anything else that could explain why they could speed around crazily while everyone else followed the rules.

IIRC, cruise ships sail at about 23 knots during the day, and about 18 knots at night. But they have bright lights all around and pointing ahead of them so they can see what's in their path. They certainly aren't hot dogging around at 40 or 50 mph and out of control, like the driver of the attacking boat in Stephanie's case seemed to be doing.

These perps have no excuse. Even if they didn't take boater's safety classes, common sense tells you that you can't speed around blindly in the dark and not expect to hit something.

Yeah, the whole thing is infuriating. They didn't even stop at a payphone (they still had those back then) to make an anonymous 911 call to send an ambulance. There's a pretty much 100% chance they wouldn't have been caught if they did that in an out of the way pay phone and disguised their voices.

And the excessive speeding after dark ticks me off too. Wiseguy, you know Cass lake? My son was prefishing it for a tournament in 2006. I know it's known as a party lake, but my son was out there on his bass boat with all his specialized equipment prefishing it for an upcoming NBAA tournament.

He and his fishing partner had had their cars ticketed for staying in the lot past closing at 10pm, packing up their gear and tying down the boat. So to avoid yet another ticket, at 9pm, in the summer, when it was still bright daylight, my kid sped his bass boat, only slightly, to get back to the dock so he could get his boat trailered and and get the heck out of there before the guy with the tickets came by in the parking lot.

Well, he was pulled over by the water police at 9:04 pm for making a wake after 9:00pm. (since he fishes professionally, he reads up on all the rules of each lake he fishes) The lake rules weren't posted anywhere at the lake entrance. We later found the lake rules for Cass Lake after digging around on the internet for over an hour. And he was only making a wake within sight of the launch with no other boats around in the daytime when visibility was perfect and it was safe.

The ticket was $500 and/or 90 days in jail!

I spent $700 on a lawyer to keep my 6' tall 130lb 18 year old white kid from being somebody's bitch in the county jail just because the DNR failed to post their rules at the launch site. (This kid doesn't drink, smoke, swear, nothing. And when he's on the water, he's always bringing back other people's litter to put in the trash to keep the lakes clean.) And this is the kid they decide to make an example out of. I was livid.

Anyway, knowing boating as we do, there is just no excuse for the perps in this case to be boating at a high speed after dark. And they just had a speed boat. They weren't equipped with special safety headlights or anything else that could explain why they could speed around crazily while everyone else followed the rules.

IIRC, cruise ships sail at about 23 knots during the day, and about 18 knots at night. But they have bright lights all around and pointing ahead of them so they can see what's in their path. They certainly aren't hot dogging around at 40 or 50 mph and out of control, like the driver of the attacking boat in Stephanie's case seemed to be doing.

These perps have no excuse. Even if they didn't take boater's safety classes, common sense tells you that you can't speed around blindly in the dark and not expect to hit something.

i'm not familiar with Cass Lake, which part of the state is that in? It's been eras since I've gone fishing, but I do recall doing quite well in Lake Ovid (IIRC near Owosso) and the Bad River in St. Charles, which is where I grew up.

One time when I went fishing with my family as a kid at the Bad River, I decided to troll as we were bringing the boat in, getting ready to call it a day. My brother told me there was no way in the world I was going to catch anything. I stunned everyone by catching a 7 pound bass. That's no fishing story, it actually happened.

Not a fan of Torch Lake, one of my best friends drowned there a few years back.

Yes, the DNR are rather strict, and that's as 'bout as far as I'll go on that subject :)

Another thought on the driver of this boat.

Think of Oba Chandler and the rapes and murders he committed on his cheap little boat. Just imagine if he had a big expensive new speed boat.

He would drive it as fast as he wanted to, when he wanted to, without regard for others. And he'd be the type who'd get a sexual thrill and a power trip from being at the helm while receiving sex from someone.

I'm not saying the boat driver in this case is Oba Chandler or is as capable of repeat murders as Oba, but there are ALL kinds out there...

This was close to my thoughts. I felt atomicfizz brought up some good points. Even the segment mentioned the beautiful reconstructive work on Stephanie's face while acknowledging that she couldn't identify with what she saw in the mirror.

I always thought it was interesting that someone called the police claiming that they knew this couple in the other boat and were trying to convince them to turn themselves in. Apparently nothing more ever came from that. That REALLY bothers me because it shows that there is at least one person aside from the couple who knows the truth but isn't coming forward. I can only assume that the tipster was a friend or family member. I can't imagine how they can live with that knowledge all these years and remain silent. Obviously, these people still haven't revealed themselves. Why doesn't the tipster just man up and do that right thing since these people obviously can't?

I was going to say...they'd either have to have NO friends or family members, or effectively hide the truth from them, a possibly elaborate and extensive effort. I did hear--pretty sure on the radio program This American Life about a young woman whose father was a drunk, was staying at her house, and left quickly after some damage to his vehicle. She later learned a young woman was killed along the road and her head injuries matched the damage on the rearview mirror which had been broken and her father hastily removed and discarded, but because she was a poor young lady from the wrong side of the tracks authorities dismissed her and wouldn't investigate her charges. She left the area and lived a troubled life, unaware that YEARS LATER the authorities accused the last man this woman had talked to of killing her with a bottle. He spent YEARS IN PRISON before the woman who knew the truth learned of it and came forward. I'm just sayin' it happens.

but I do recall doing quite well in Lake Ovid

where the heck is Ovid? :)

i'm not familiar with Cass Lake, which part of the state is that in? Yes, the DNR are rather strict, and that's as 'bout as far as I'll go on that subject :)

That's the only bad interaction my son ever had with the dnr. Normally, they're friendly and helpful. This was just one of those egomaniacs on a mission.

Cass lake is a big lake in oakland county just SE of Pontiac. It's sure not one of my favorites. Every time I've ever been on it, it's windy and choppy.

But we don't have our pleasure boat anymore, and I rarely go out on my son's bass boat because the darn thing smells like rotting fish slime! lol

where the heck is Ovid? :)

LOL He already told you, it's near Owosso. And that's only an hour away from Unadilla. roflol

LOL He already told you, it's near Owosso. And that's only an hour away from Unadilla. roflol

I guess you haven't seen the UM episode about the kid who put a message in a bottle, and threw it into Lake Ovid back in the seventies. In the mid-nineties, he received a postcard from someone in San Diego who claimed they found the bottle and his message on a beach there. The author of the post card wrote "where the heck is Ovid".

Basically, I saw that wiseguy mentioned Ovid, so my initial reply was a lame attempt at UM humor. I have too much time on my hands, I know :)

I guess you haven't seen the UM episode about the kid who put a message in a bottle, and threw it into Lake Ovid back in the seventies. In the mid-nineties, he received a postcard from someone in San Diego who claimed they found the bottle and his message on a beach there. The author of the post card wrote "where the heck is Ovid".

Basically, I saw that wiseguy mentioned Ovid, so my initial reply was a lame attempt at UM humor. I have too much time on my hands, I know :)

Oh, I gotcha.

I've seen that segment, but it's one of my least favorites so I never watch it and haven't noticed that scene.

Ovid, MI is still in the middle of nowhere. I live only an hour away and I had to look it up to find out "where the heck is Ovid"? lol

In that segment, the kid supposedly put the bottle with a message in lake Ovid? What state was he in? Ovid is smack dab in the middle of michigan, so if he threw in the water there, it wasn't going anywere. There's an Ovid in NY that's by Rochester and Lake Ontario. Still, it ain't the pacific....

I guess you haven't seen the UM episode about the kid who put a message in a bottle, and threw it into Lake Ovid back in the seventies. In the mid-nineties, he received a postcard from someone in San Diego who claimed they found the bottle and his message on a beach there. The author of the post card wrote "where the heck is Ovid".

Basically, I saw that wiseguy mentioned Ovid, so my initial reply was a lame attempt at UM humor. I have too much time on my hands, I know :)

LOL I got the joke. :lol:

talking with my dad today, he says it was Pleasant Lake in Jackson where I caught that largemouth bass as a youngster. Don't remember going to that lake, but I do recall visiting the Cascade Falls in Jackson a few times. Colored waterfalls.

As tragic as Stephanie's case was, thank goodness the 2 other women didn't suffer as well. Given the size of that speedboat, they could have easily been harmed as well.

In that segment, the kid supposedly put the bottle with a message in lake Ovid? What state was he in? Ovid is smack dab in the middle of michigan, so if he threw in the water there, it wasn't going anywere. There's an Ovid in NY that's by Rochester and Lake Ontario. Still, it ain't the pacific....

It was Ovid, New York. Believe it or not, I've been there and spent quite a bit of time near there.

talking with my dad today, he says it was Pleasant Lake in Jackson where I caught that largemouth bass as a youngster. Don't remember going to that lake, but I do recall visiting the Cascade Falls in Jackson a few times. Colored waterfalls.

Wow. I'm not surprised it was in Jackson where your caught your big bass. My husband knows that lake well. I lived out that way back in the 80s and some of the lakes in the area have the biggest fish I've ever caught.

I can't convince my son of that though. He grew up on the oakland county lakes, so he swears by them.

It was Ovid, New York. Believe it or not, I've been there and spent quite a bit of time near there.

Oh gorsh. No wonder I never liked that segment. The bottle had to travel from "where the heck is Ovid" NY, all the way around the world to California!

The more likely scenario is that the kid threw the bottle into the cold NY waters, the bottle said, "What the heck am I doing in Buffalo in freezing Lake Ontario, when I could be sunning myself on a beach in California?" And it got out of the water and booked a flight to CA.